Re: Females in the community.

2016-04-12 Thread deadalnix via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 12 April 2016 at 14:57:33 UTC, Karabuta wrote: On Monday, 11 April 2016 at 17:12:03 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: On Saturday, 26 March 2016 at 19:52:18 UTC, QAston wrote: A person who advocates for a more welcoming community and wishes for objective moderation introduces a

Re: Females in the community.

2016-04-12 Thread Karabuta via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 11 April 2016 at 17:12:03 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: On Saturday, 26 March 2016 at 19:52:18 UTC, QAston wrote: A person who advocates for a more welcoming community and wishes for objective moderation introduces a divisive topic You need to relax. The topic wasn't divisive. I

Re: Females in the community.

2016-04-11 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 26 March 2016 at 19:52:18 UTC, QAston wrote: A person who advocates for a more welcoming community and wishes for objective moderation introduces a divisive topic You need to relax. The topic wasn't divisive. I haven't asked for moderation. I haven't argued in favour of

Re: Females in the community.

2016-04-06 Thread jmh530 via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 20:25:29 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: I agree that Reddit has its problems, foremost of which it is impractical to visit a thread and look for what's new since you looked at it last time. Sorry to bump the thread, but I found some options that make this a little

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-30 Thread tsbockman via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 30 March 2016 at 19:22:13 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: Having recently been absorbed by The Continuum, I acquired an iPhone. I found the predictive text input to be disconcerting at first, but it speeds up the typing a lot. It's still annoying to type anything other than lower case

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-30 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 3/30/2016 5:22 AM, Bruno Medeiros wrote: Ok, fair enough. Personally I think reading newsgroups is too much of a complex task to be done on a phone (for starters typing is much harder, so you're kinda restricted to reading only, or typing short posts only). Having recently been absorbed by

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-30 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 3/30/2016 5:31 AM, Bruno Medeiros wrote: For reading posts, it wouldn't break clients, no. But what about writing messages with PGP signatures? If the client doesn't supported creating them automatically, it's too much of a pain the ass to do that manually. That's right. But you can use

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-30 Thread Bruno Medeiros via Digitalmars-d
On 26/03/2016 01:18, Walter Bright wrote: On 3/25/2016 5:57 PM, Bruno Medeiros wrote: Yeah, but how many NNTP clients would support that? Certainly one could build this feature on top of NNTP, but then it would not be pure NNTP anymore, and I guess it would break many clients, no? No, it

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-30 Thread Bruno Medeiros via Digitalmars-d
On 26/03/2016 14:03, Tobias Müller wrote: Walter Bright wrote: On 3/25/2016 5:36 PM, Bruno Medeiros wrote: What NNTP client do you use on your phone? I know there's at least one available on the iphone, and of course you'd have the option to use the DFeed web

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-28 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 03/25/2016 03:40 PM, ag0aep6g wrote: On 25.03.2016 15:56, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On 03/17/2016 01:02 PM, ag0aep6g wrote: "A female" sounds like you're talking about an animal. Not to a native english speaker. I call bullshit on that. I don't have any strong evidence, and I'm not even a

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-26 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 3/26/2016 11:31 AM, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: ...Hitler... For the third time, please stop with the politics here.

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-26 Thread QAston via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 25 March 2016 at 22:35:56 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: On 03/25/2016 04:31 AM, QAston wrote: > Well I can agree that Trump is like Hitler (and nazis, and fascists, and > eugenics, and communists, and jews) We've made it! :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law Ali I thought

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-26 Thread David Dewitt via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 26 March 2016 at 18:31:06 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: On Saturday, 26 March 2016 at 18:02:22 UTC, deadalnix wrote: On Saturday, 26 March 2016 at 17:59:39 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: On Friday, 25 March 2016 at 22:35:56 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: On 03/25/2016 04:31 AM,

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-26 Thread QAston via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 26 March 2016 at 18:31:06 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: It actually does. The key points for the election campaign is the same at the early campaign Hitler had. Restore the pride of Germany. Restore German industry. Blame an outgroup. There is also pretty good overlap in his

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-26 Thread deadalnix via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 26 March 2016 at 18:31:06 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: On Saturday, 26 March 2016 at 18:02:22 UTC, deadalnix wrote: On Saturday, 26 March 2016 at 17:59:39 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: On Friday, 25 March 2016 at 22:35:56 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: On 03/25/2016 04:31 AM,

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-26 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 26 March 2016 at 18:02:22 UTC, deadalnix wrote: On Saturday, 26 March 2016 at 17:59:39 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: On Friday, 25 March 2016 at 22:35:56 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: On 03/25/2016 04:31 AM, QAston wrote: > Well I can agree that Trump is like Hitler (and nazis, and

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-26 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 25 March 2016 at 10:55:35 UTC, QAston wrote: On Friday, 25 March 2016 at 10:25:50 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: On Friday, 25 March 2016 at 10:22:55 UTC, QAston wrote: adults. According to Ola women are better collaborators. I've never said that. And that is not true as a

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-26 Thread deadalnix via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 26 March 2016 at 17:59:39 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: On Friday, 25 March 2016 at 22:35:56 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: On 03/25/2016 04:31 AM, QAston wrote: > Well I can agree that Trump is like Hitler (and nazis, and fascists, and > eugenics, and communists, and jews) We've made

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-26 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 25 March 2016 at 22:35:56 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: On 03/25/2016 04:31 AM, QAston wrote: > Well I can agree that Trump is like Hitler (and nazis, and fascists, and > eugenics, and communists, and jews) We've made it! :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law Godwin's

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-26 Thread Tobias Müller via Digitalmars-d
Walter Bright wrote: > On 3/25/2016 5:36 PM, Bruno Medeiros wrote: >> What NNTP client do you use on your phone? > > I know there's at least one available on the iphone, and of course you'd have > the option to use the DFeed web interface. > >

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 3/25/2016 8:46 PM, Timon Gehr wrote: The only thing that would be different with a CoC is that Walter would additionally link to the CoC instead of just making a mature suggestion. Be like Billy - behave yourself! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQRuNwOMzW8=PLBFA47360BEAFBC75

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 3/25/2016 5:34 PM, Bruno Medeiros wrote: ... and this is why code of conducts are created, so people can know what is acceptable for discussion and what isn't. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004QTOTH6/

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread Timon Gehr via Digitalmars-d
On 26.03.2016 01:34, Bruno Medeiros wrote: On 25/03/2016 04:52, Walter Bright wrote: On 3/24/2016 4:16 PM, tsbockman wrote: [...] Maybe we should leave politics out of this forum. It adds no relevance to programming, generates lots of bad feeling, and there are certainly plenty of political

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 3/25/2016 5:36 PM, Bruno Medeiros wrote: What NNTP client do you use on your phone? I know there's at least one available on the iphone, and of course you'd have the option to use the DFeed web interface. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/newstap-usenet-newsreader/id292410356

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 3/25/2016 5:57 PM, Bruno Medeiros wrote: Yeah, but how many NNTP clients would support that? Certainly one could build this feature on top of NNTP, but then it would not be pure NNTP anymore, and I guess it would break many clients, no? No, it wouldn't. The PGP signature doesn't break

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread Bruno Medeiros via Digitalmars-d
On 25/03/2016 19:44, Walter Bright wrote: No, there is another shortcoming of NNTP that is innate: it doesn't require an account / authentication, anyone can post without registering, emails accounts can be spoofed, etc. It's actually pretty easy to add a field with a crypto hash in it, and

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread Bruno Medeiros via Digitalmars-d
On 25/03/2016 14:06, Tobias Müller wrote: Bruno Medeiros wrote: On 24/03/2016 09:16, Walter Bright wrote: We're doing just fine with NNTP and Vladimir's forum software. And this is one of the reasons why I've essentially moved from D to Rust. Yes, the forum

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread Bruno Medeiros via Digitalmars-d
On 25/03/2016 04:52, Walter Bright wrote: On 3/24/2016 4:16 PM, tsbockman wrote: [...] Maybe we should leave politics out of this forum. It adds no relevance to programming, generates lots of bad feeling, and there are certainly plenty of political threads on reddit for anyone inclined. ...

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread Ali Çehreli via Digitalmars-d
On 03/25/2016 04:31 AM, QAston wrote: > Well I can agree that Trump is like Hitler (and nazis, and fascists, and > eugenics, and communists, and jews) We've made it! :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law Ali

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread Ali Çehreli via Digitalmars-d
On 03/24/2016 04:52 PM, deadalnix wrote: On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 23:04:42 UTC, QAston wrote: If only one could somehow engineer societies (males? - that seems to be the problem) meeting your standards. Replace male by jew in your sentence and ask yourself how it sounds. We're getting

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread jmh530 via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 25 March 2016 at 19:40:08 UTC, Bruno Medeiros wrote: whilst being able to ignore/unwatch individual topics. Yes, like this thread...

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 3/25/2016 10:05 AM, Bruno Medeiros wrote: No, there is another shortcoming of NNTP that is innate: it doesn't require an account / authentication, anyone can post without registering, emails accounts can be spoofed, etc. It's actually pretty easy to add a field with a crypto hash in it, and

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread ag0aep6g via Digitalmars-d
On 25.03.2016 15:56, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On 03/17/2016 01:02 PM, ag0aep6g wrote: [...] "Woman" excludes non-adults. Non-adult, like I was when I started with code. Being most inclusive is clearly not the goal here. Otherwise Karabuta wouldn't have specified the sex. Did he choose "a

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread Bruno Medeiros via Digitalmars-d
On 24/03/2016 17:07, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 16:46:53 UTC, Bruno Medeiros wrote: It is, *however*, illustrative of a larger issue I have with the mindset and attitude of the core D team: that there are several aspects there that I consider antiquated, or

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 25 March 2016 at 17:03:22 UTC, Bruno Medeiros wrote: But it is another aspect of NNTP that is *innate and can't be fixed*. It'd be pretty easy to add digital signatures (some users already do it) and check them if you were really concerned about it. And that'd be more secure than

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread Bruno Medeiros via Digitalmars-d
On 24/03/2016 20:15, Walter Bright wrote: But most shortcomings of NNTP are innate and cannot be addressed, not in a proper way. The only shortcoming of NNTP that is not innate are editing/deleting posts, and: No, there is another shortcoming of NNTP that is innate: it doesn't require an

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread Bruno Medeiros via Digitalmars-d
On 24/03/2016 20:15, Walter Bright wrote: But most shortcomings of NNTP are innate and cannot be addressed, not in a proper way. The only shortcoming of NNTP that is not innate are editing/deleting posts, and: No, another shortcoming of NNTP that is innate is that it doesn't require an

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 03/17/2016 01:42 PM, John Colvin wrote: P.S. what's with calling women "females", is it an americanism? It sounds super weird to a British ear, we'd normally only say "female" in a technical setting or about an animal, so it can sound a bit disrespectful. I don't know about over there, but

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 03/17/2016 01:02 PM, ag0aep6g wrote: I can't be the only one who is irritated by this use of the word "female". Why do you avoid "woman"? "Woman" excludes non-adults. Non-adult, like I was when I started with code. That's the problem with PC nitpicking, it never ends. "A female" sounds

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread Tobias Müller via Digitalmars-d
Bruno Medeiros wrote: > On 24/03/2016 09:16, Walter Bright wrote: >> We're doing just fine with NNTP and Vladimir's forum software. > > And this is one of the reasons why I've essentially moved from D to > Rust. Yes, the forum software. It's the exact opposite

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread Paolo Invernizzi via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 25 March 2016 at 04:12:10 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 03/25/2016 12:08 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: Added to my list. Also: syntax coloring for D code. It would be rad. -- Andrei Yeh! ;-P /P

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread QAston via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 25 March 2016 at 10:38:56 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: I'm not really sure why I respond to this BUT YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT to a level where I'm at loss of words. Which is really really hard to do. ;^) [...] All socities are engineered at some level. That you guys think

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
Please, no politics here. Take it to https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread QAston via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 25 March 2016 at 10:25:50 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: On Friday, 25 March 2016 at 10:22:55 UTC, QAston wrote: adults. According to Ola women are better collaborators. I've never said that. And that is not true as a general statement. You sort of did here. Anyway, there are

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 25 March 2016 at 10:22:55 UTC, QAston wrote: I don't think they need strong male protective arm to handle internet. I'm not really sure why I respond to this BUT YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT to a level where I'm at loss of words. Which is really really hard to do. ;^) Women do not

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread QAston via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 25 March 2016 at 10:09:36 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: Well, online one can engineer societies, if one are willing to spend the investments, but men are not the problem. Women are just as dysfunctional as men are, and both men and women experience gender-related discrimination in

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 25 March 2016 at 10:22:55 UTC, QAston wrote: adults. According to Ola women are better collaborators. I've never said that. And that is not true as a general statement.

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 23:16:05 UTC, tsbockman wrote: According to the national polls tracked by Real Clear Politics, Trump currently has about 43% of the *Republican* vote - which itself is only about 30% of the *national* vote, meaning that his real support is ~13%. (Most years, about

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread QAston via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 25 March 2016 at 03:20:01 UTC, Joakim wrote: I'm pretty sure Qaston was being sarcastic. Indeed I was. It was difficult to not mock contempt for lesser people in that post. On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 20:57:22 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: Maybe or maybe not, but meta

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 23:04:42 UTC, QAston wrote: If only one could somehow engineer societies (males? - that seems to be the problem) meeting your standards. Well, online one can engineer societies, if one are willing to spend the investments, but men are not the problem. Women are

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-25 Thread tsbockman via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 25 March 2016 at 04:52:09 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 3/24/2016 4:16 PM, tsbockman wrote: [...] Maybe we should leave politics out of this forum. It adds no relevance to programming, generates lots of bad feeling, and there are certainly plenty of political threads on reddit for

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread deadalnix via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 25 March 2016 at 04:12:10 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 03/25/2016 12:08 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: Added to my list. Also: syntax coloring for D code. It would be rad. -- Andrei I love rad :)

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 3/24/2016 4:16 PM, tsbockman wrote: [...] Maybe we should leave politics out of this forum. It adds no relevance to programming, generates lots of bad feeling, and there are certainly plenty of political threads on reddit for anyone inclined.

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 3/24/2016 9:08 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: I actually didn't expect that you'd be in favor of Markdown, since you were against even allowing users to view HTML message parts. I changed my mind to be in favor of Markdown, but I still oppose viewing the HTML parts. For one thing, having

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Meta via Digitalmars-d
I wasn't planning on replying to this thread, but I think we should all stop for a moment and marvel at the amazing power of this mailing list to derail discussions. We've gone from women in the community, to the merits of NNTP vs. web forums, to current politics. If the powers of this list

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 03/25/2016 12:08 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: Added to my list. Also: syntax coloring for D code. It would be rad. -- Andrei

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 03/24/2016 11:10 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: NNTP cancellation is something I've thought about. It has issues: Thought so. -- Andrei

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Vladimir Panteleev via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 19:45:51 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 3/24/2016 10:07 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: Perhaps you could list some particular features you're missing. A couple things I think would improve the usefulness: 1. Consider the thread view:

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 23:52:58 UTC, deadalnix wrote: On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 23:04:42 UTC, QAston wrote: If only one could somehow engineer societies (males? - that seems to be the problem) meeting your standards. Replace male by jew in your sentence and ask yourself how it

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 3/24/2016 8:10 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: 2. It does not propagate. If an NNTP client will cancel a message, it will still be visible on the forum. DFeed needs to request the full message list from the server to know which messages are gone (it does this every few days or so). And, of

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Vladimir Panteleev via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 17:55:18 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: FWIW I like to post and just see it there. On the rare occasions I make a mistake that could make my post misunderstood I cancel the message within seconds and repost it with the fix. (BTW would be nice to have the ability

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread deadalnix via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 23:04:42 UTC, QAston wrote: If only one could somehow engineer societies (males? - that seems to be the problem) meeting your standards. Replace male by jew in your sentence and ask yourself how it sounds.

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread tsbockman via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 14:36:39 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 06:32:17 UTC, deadalnix wrote: Come on Adam, I know from previous interactions we had that you are way smarter than this. I could certainly like to see comments like this done away with too.

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread tsbockman via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 20:57:22 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: I find the Donald Trump phenomena to be an unpleasant reminder that there are certain aspects of our male culture that we men need to address both in ourselves and in others. I somehow doubt that a woman could act the same

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread QAston via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 20:57:22 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: The thread itself strengthened Karabuta's core message, didn't it? :-) Unfortunately, I am not sure if there are anyone in the D community that would make a good objective moderator, so I am not sure exactly how it can be

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 08:30:39PM +, Jack Stouffer via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 20:25:29 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: > >I agree that Reddit has its problems, foremost of which it is > >impractical to visit a thread and look for what's new since you > >looked at it

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Ali Çehreli via Digitalmars-d
On 03/24/2016 01:58 PM, cym13 wrote: On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 19:52:53 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 3/24/2016 7:13 AM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote: But then again I've never written a spell checker, so wouldn't know. :-) dmd has a spell checker built in. (!) Wait...what? Could

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread cym13 via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 19:52:53 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 3/24/2016 7:13 AM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote: But then again I've never written a spell checker, so wouldn't know. :-) dmd has a spell checker built in. (!) Wait...what? Could you elaborate on that?

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 16:06:15 UTC, Abdulhaq wrote: I have to say I agree that, for better or for worse, this thread alone demonstrates an occasional aggressiveness that puts me off, never mind women who are, generally speaking, less likely to weather the tone of voice often used here.

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Jack Stouffer via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 20:25:29 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: I agree that Reddit has its problems, foremost of which it is impractical to visit a thread and look for what's new since you looked at it last time. You have to pay money for that feature.

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 3/24/2016 1:08 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 19:48:42 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: Haha, reddit would be unusable without tree threading. Reddit IS unusable BECAUSE of its tree threading. It is virtually impossible to find new posts on Reddit. At least with NNTP

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 3/24/2016 9:34 AM, Bruno Medeiros wrote: BTW, the distributed nature of NNTP I regard as a major asset. The aggregate of the forum posts are an immense resource for D, and having it in a central location in a proprietary format is pretty risky. Discourse is free & open:

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 19:48:42 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: Haha, reddit would be unusable without tree threading. Reddit IS unusable BECAUSE of its tree threading. It is virtually impossible to find new posts on Reddit. At least with NNTP your client will do things like bold the

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 3/24/2016 7:13 AM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote: But then again I've never written a spell checker, so wouldn't know. :-) dmd has a spell checker built in. (!)

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 3/24/2016 7:01 AM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: That's a feature. Tree threading is one of the worst things I've ever seen and I wish it would die completely. Haha, reddit would be unusable without tree threading.

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 3/24/2016 10:07 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: Perhaps you could list some particular features you're missing. A couple things I think would improve the usefulness: 1. Consider the thread view: http://forum.dlang.org/post/nd1ff7$1mui$1...@digitalmars.com and compare with:

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 3/24/2016 9:46 AM, Bruno Medeiros wrote: Using old communication software like NNTP is one example of that. Compare with Rust's Discourse. For the curious, an example of Discourse: https://internals.rust-lang.org/t/pre-rfc-cargo-target-features/3284 I don't see a whole lot here that can't

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 03:50:31PM +, Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 15:26:09 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: > >The entire reason I've avoided web-based email clients like the > >plague is because I've yet to see one that handles tree threading > >correctly > >

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 03/24/2016 11:01 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 09:16:51 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: One possibility is to have the forum software delay actually posting it for 5 minutes, and you can have second thoughts. That's actually an interesting idea. Some places on the

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 03/24/2016 01:07 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 16:46:53 UTC, Bruno Medeiros wrote: It is, *however*, illustrative of a larger issue I have with the mindset and attitude of the core D team: that there are several aspects there that I consider antiquated, or

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Vladimir Panteleev via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 16:46:53 UTC, Bruno Medeiros wrote: It is, *however*, illustrative of a larger issue I have with the mindset and attitude of the core D team: that there are several aspects there that I consider antiquated, or narrow-minded. Please don't take this as a personal

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Bruno Medeiros via Digitalmars-d
On 24/03/2016 09:16, Walter Bright wrote: We're doing just fine with NNTP and Vladimir's forum software. And this is one of the reasons why I've essentially moved from D to Rust. Yes, the forum software. Yes, this is not related to the language, nor with the toolchain, nor with actually

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Bruno Medeiros via Digitalmars-d
On 24/03/2016 09:39, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: It also allows much easier moderation, not relying on the news server admin to delete spam and any posts that go beyond the bounds of propriety. I don't think we have an issue with moderation. The spam filter could be a bit better, I suppose.

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Bruno Medeiros via Digitalmars-d
On 24/03/2016 09:16, Walter Bright wrote: On 3/24/2016 1:41 AM, Mike Parker wrote: I'm not knocking Vladimir's software. I ditched my newsreader some time ago and use the web interface exclusively now. Much more convenient. We can debate the usefulness of specific forum features that are out

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Abdulhaq via Digitalmars-d
I have to say I agree that, for better or for worse, this thread alone demonstrates an occasional aggressiveness that puts me off, never mind women who are, generally speaking, less likely to weather the tone of voice often used here. Karabuta seems to be a non-native English speaker and got

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 15:26:09 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: The entire reason I've avoided web-based email clients like the plague is because I've yet to see one that handles tree threading correctly Oh, I also avoid web-based email clients... though one of the biggest PROBLEMS I have with

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 08:14:07AM -0700, Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Thursday, March 24, 2016 14:01:04 Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 09:16:51 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: > > > Note the lack of tree threading > > > > That's a feature.

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 03:01:23PM +, Vladimir Panteleev via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 09:16:51 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: > >One possibility is to have the forum software delay actually posting > >it for 5 minutes, and you can have second thoughts. > > That's

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Vladimir Panteleev via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 09:16:51 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: One possibility is to have the forum software delay actually posting it for 5 minutes, and you can have second thoughts. That's actually an interesting idea. Some places on the web (e.g. StackOverflow comments) only allow you

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 03:36:42AM -0700, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d wrote: [...] > Many of the things people complain about with NNTP are features I > prefer :-) Same here. T -- What is Matter, what is Mind? Never Mind, it doesn't Matter.

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, March 24, 2016 14:01:04 Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 09:16:51 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: > > Note the lack of tree threading > > That's a feature. Tree threading is one of the worst things I've > ever seen and I wish it would die completely. >

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 06:32:17 UTC, deadalnix wrote: Come on Adam, I know from previous interactions we had that you are way smarter than this. I could certainly like to see comments like this done away with too. Reasonable people ought to be able to disagree without calling each

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d
On 24 March 2016 at 04:45, Mike Parker via Digitalmars-d < digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote: > On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 03:43:04 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: > > They can't sentences that are incorrect, but that you didn't >> > > And here's an example of what I'm talking about. On this forum, I

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 09:16:51 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: Note the lack of tree threading That's a feature. Tree threading is one of the worst things I've ever seen and I wish it would die completely. Thankfully, we can turn it off here, but it still kinda ruins things because it

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, March 24, 2016 09:39:34 Vladimir Panteleev via Digitalmars-d wrote: > All in all, I'm rather certain that as soon as an actual serious > proposal to replace forum.dlang.org with e.g. Discourse appears, > it will face just as much, if not more, vocal disagreement. Not only that, but

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Mike Parker via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 09:39:34 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: We recently had a suggestion her for a means of marking threads as important or useful. I really think this is entirely unnecessary. Again, the benefit of such features are debatable. I'm personally ambivalent to

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 3/24/2016 2:54 AM, qznc wrote: What I have not seen in any forum software is the ability to connect different topics. A threaded forum is a tree. I would like a DAG. The closest thing I used is the Github issue tracker. If you mention another issue, it automatically adds a backlink to here in

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 3/24/2016 2:39 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: "Sticky" threads on typical web forums are used to post things such as FAQs or things people should read before posting. Essentially, in pretty much all cases, this feature is used as a poor way to change the website in general in order to bring

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread qznc via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 09:16:51 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: We're doing just fine with NNTP and Vladimir's forum software. I agree. There is no need to change anything. However, there is room for improvement, but it requires to change the UI, which is not possible with Newsreaders.

Re: Females in the community.

2016-03-24 Thread Vladimir Panteleev via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 08:41:18 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: Yeah, I get that. But then we're maintaining two separate databases. The database for the web interface should be the primary, with all of the post meta-data stored together with the posts themselves in one place. Then, people who

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