On 12/06/2015 6:45 p.m., Nick Sabalausky wrote:
On 06/12/2015 12:51 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
The cost is really minimal if you are serious. A Mac Mini costs $500
new, and you get Xcode free.
The last two computers I bought were about $340 each. And those are
laptops, with screen and
On 06/12/2015 12:51 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
The cost is really minimal if you are serious. A Mac Mini costs $500
new, and you get Xcode free.
The last two computers I bought were about $340 each. And those are
laptops, with screen and battery and everything.
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 07:57:27 UTC, Adrian Matoga wrote:
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 07:36:51 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote:
The minimum wage in Portugal is around 400€ after taxes, with
around 1000€ for many university degrees.
You can guess how many go out and buy a Mac.
--
Paulo
I
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 07:36:51 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote:
The minimum wage in Portugal is around 400€ after taxes, with
around 1000€ for many university degrees.
You can guess how many go out and buy a Mac.
--
Paulo
I remember I saw almost every student at IST with a Mac, and
when
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 06:50:01 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
On 12/06/2015 6:45 p.m., Nick Sabalausky wrote:
On 06/12/2015 12:51 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
The cost is really minimal if you are serious. A Mac Mini
costs $500
new, and you get Xcode free.
The last two computers I
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 04:51:29 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
On 6/11/15 11:47 PM, Joakim wrote:
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 02:13:26 UTC, Dan Olson wrote:
Looks like there is no membership fee to build and install
your own
iOS apps with Xcode now. As usual, you still need a Mac to
run
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 08:46:19 UTC, rsw0x wrote:
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 08:43:39 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 06:50:01 UTC, Rikki Cattermole
wrote:
[...]
Hm, in Norway the 12core version fully upgraded is 11354USD
without a screen… Are you sure you
On 12/06/2015 8:43 p.m., Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQi?=
ola.fosheim.grostad+dl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 06:50:01 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
On 12/06/2015 6:45 p.m., Nick Sabalausky wrote:
On 06/12/2015 12:51 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
The cost is really
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 08:43:39 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 06:50:01 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
On 12/06/2015 6:45 p.m., Nick Sabalausky wrote:
On 06/12/2015 12:51 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
The cost is really minimal if you are serious. A Mac Mini
On 6/12/15 8:07 AM, Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQi?=
ola.fosheim.grostad+dl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 11:58:35 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Those who are serious and willing to invest will buy one. I bought my
macbook in 2011 for about $1800, I've made more than 50x
On 6/12/15 1:00 AM, Mattcoder wrote:
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 04:51:29 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
The cost is really minimal if you are serious. A Mac Mini costs $500
new, and you get Xcode free.
I don't want to be that guy but living in Brazil that Mac Mini
(Yosemite) costs 6x more
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 12:48:36 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 12:47:36 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev
wrote:
[...]
I regret getting involved in an OS holywar. Sorry, I'm done
with this thread.
fedora debian
vim emacs
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 12:42:37 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
On 6/12/15 8:29 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 12:21:12 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
Is your mom a software developer? If you spent $160 more and
were able
to increase your salary 10x, wouldn't
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 12:47:36 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
[...]
I regret getting involved in an OS holywar. Sorry, I'm done with
this thread.
On 6/12/15 3:36 AM, Paulo Pinto wrote:
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 04:51:29 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On 6/11/15 11:47 PM, Joakim wrote:
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 02:13:26 UTC, Dan Olson wrote:
Looks like there is no membership fee to build and install your own
iOS apps with Xcode now.
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 11:58:35 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
On 6/12/15 3:36 AM, Paulo Pinto wrote:
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 04:51:29 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
On 6/11/15 11:47 PM, Joakim wrote:
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 02:13:26 UTC, Dan Olson wrote:
Looks like there is no
On 6/12/15 8:29 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 12:21:12 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Is your mom a software developer? If you spent $160 more and were able
to increase your salary 10x, wouldn't that be worth it?
10x? What sort of pipe dream is that?
OK, 2x,
On 6/12/15 8:07 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 12:03:59 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
If the cost of the computer you are using is *that* important to you,
you aren't serious about investing what it takes to get the tools you
need. That was part of my point.
If
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 12:00:17 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
On 6/12/15 1:00 AM, Mattcoder wrote:
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 04:51:29 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
The cost is really minimal if you are serious. A Mac Mini
costs $500
new, and you get Xcode free.
I don't want to be
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 11:58:35 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
Those who are serious and willing to invest will buy one. I
bought my macbook in 2011 for about $1800, I've made more than
50x that with it since doing iOS work.
You don't find it odd that my 2012 mac mini is faster than
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 12:03:59 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
If the cost of the computer you are using is *that* important
to you, you aren't serious about investing what it takes to get
the tools you need. That was part of my point.
If you're telling me it's not worth an extra $160
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 12:21:12 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
Is your mom a software developer? If you spent $160 more and
were able to increase your salary 10x, wouldn't that be worth
it?
10x? What sort of pipe dream is that?
I'm not trying to say everyone should buy a mac or that
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 08:46:19 UTC, rsw0x wrote:
for example, the $999 hidpi monitor they sell on their site?
you can buy the same exact monitor for ~$250 on ebay directly
from the korean manufacturer. I own one, it looks identical to
the apple one.
I'm not surprised! I bet they saw too
On 6/12/15 2:45 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
On 06/12/2015 12:51 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
The cost is really minimal if you are serious. A Mac Mini costs $500
new, and you get Xcode free.
The last two computers I bought were about $340 each. And those are
laptops, with screen and
On 06/12/2015 08:03 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On 6/12/15 2:45 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
On 06/12/2015 12:51 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
The cost is really minimal if you are serious. A Mac Mini costs $500
new, and you get Xcode free.
The last two computers I bought were about
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 19:36:25 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
It is good though that they've finally relaxed their stance a
bit on what's now being called side-loading (or as I've
called it since the 1980's, Running my own freaking software
on my own freaking machine). Now it appears MS has
On 6/12/15 3:44 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
On 06/12/2015 07:58 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Those who are serious and willing ***and able*** to invest will buy one.
Fixed.
If you want to make minimum wage,
You've got to be fucking kidding everyone. Step out of your ivory tower
once in
On 06/12/2015 04:33 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Anyway, this is getting far too political. Now, about that bikeshed
color...
True, fair enough.
On 06/12/2015 07:58 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Those who are serious and willing ***and able*** to invest will buy one.
Fixed.
If you want to make minimum wage,
You've got to be fucking kidding everyone. Step out of your ivory tower
once in a while.
[...]I can guess you shouldn't
On 06/12/2015 03:46 PM, weaselcat wrote:
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 19:36:25 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
It is good though that they've finally relaxed their stance a bit on
what's now being called side-loading (or as I've called it since the
1980's, Running my own freaking software on my own
On 06/12/2015 04:33 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On 6/12/15 3:44 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
On 06/12/2015 07:58 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Those who are serious and willing ***and able*** to invest will buy one.
Fixed.
If you want to make minimum wage,
You've got to be fucking
On 2015-06-12 06:51, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
You can develop for iOS on other platforms (I think not using
objective-c or swift), but you cannot submit an app to the app store
without Xcode.
I think Microsoft supports this. I don't remeber all the details but I
think they showed
On 6/12/15 8:47 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 12:42:37 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On 6/12/15 8:29 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 12:21:12 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Is your mom a software developer? If you spent $160 more and
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 12:00:17 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
...
That a pretty steep hike, I wonder why it's so much more
expensive!
Import taxes and currency (Brazilian $ 3.20 = U$ 1.00).
Welcome to the jungle! :)
Matheus.
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 12:34:06 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
Also, not upgradeable RAM... I take it back. Don't buy one of
these :) Buy a used 2012 version instead! That's a significant
downgrade, I don't know who's deciding these things, but that's
definitely a failure.
Yeah, buy
On 6/11/15 11:47 PM, Joakim wrote:
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 02:13:26 UTC, Dan Olson wrote:
Looks like there is no membership fee to build and install your own
iOS apps with Xcode now. As usual, you still need a Mac to run Xcode.
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 04:51:29 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
The cost is really minimal if you are serious. A Mac Mini costs
$500 new, and you get Xcode free.
I don't want to be that guy but living in Brazil that Mac Mini
(Yosemite) costs 6x more in here. I mean it can be more cheap
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 02:13:26 UTC, Dan Olson wrote:
Looks like there is no membership fee to build and install your
own
iOS apps with Xcode now. As usual, you still need a Mac to run
Xcode.
On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 03:47:48 UTC, Joakim wrote:
Huh, that's crazy that they don't make the iOS toolchain
available outside OS X.
This _is_ Apple that we're talking about here.
- Jonathan M Davis
On 6/11/15 10:13 PM, Dan Olson wrote:
Looks like there is no membership fee to build and install your own
iOS apps with Xcode now. As usual, you still need a Mac to run Xcode.
http://9to5mac.com/2015/06/10/xcode-7-allows-anyone-to-download-build-and-sideload-ios-apps-for-free/
Very cool. I
Looks like there is no membership fee to build and install your own
iOS apps with Xcode now. As usual, you still need a Mac to run Xcode.
http://9to5mac.com/2015/06/10/xcode-7-allows-anyone-to-download-build-and-sideload-ios-apps-for-free/
--
Dan
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