On Sunday, 10 June 2018 at 00:29:04 UTC, bauss wrote:
And then Microsoft acquires both and everyone moves to
Bitbucket.
Endless cycle :)
Until people figure out decentralization. AIU scuttlebutt server
provides only discovery service, these proved to be able to run
at little cost. And as to
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 20:00:45 UTC, Maksim Fomin wrote:
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 19:26:23 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 19:06:52 UTC, Maksim Fomin wrote:
Unlikely, you don't spend $7.5 billion on a company because
you want to send a message that you're a good dev tools
com
On 06/09/2018 08:29 PM, bauss wrote:
On Saturday, 9 June 2018 at 23:41:43 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
(I just hope it doesn't lead to GitLab running out of cash too.)
And then Microsoft acquires both and everyone moves to Bitbucket.
Endless cycle :)
Ahhh! Time to make my own then
On Saturday, 9 June 2018 at 23:41:43 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
(Abscissa) wrote:
(I just hope it doesn't lead to GitLab running out of cash too.)
And then Microsoft acquires both and everyone moves to Bitbucket.
Endless cycle :)
On 06/09/2018 11:06 AM, Paolo Invernizzi wrote:
[1]
https://about.gitlab.com/2018/06/05/gitlab-ultimate-and-gold-free-for-education-and-open-source/
From the link:
"It has been a crazy 24 hours for GitLab. More than 2,000 people tweeted
about #movingtogitlab. We imported over 100,000 repos
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 07:53:13 UTC, drug wrote:
04.06.2018 09:02, Anton Fediushin пишет:
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 04:40:44 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On the bright side, maybe this will encourage online repo
hosting to become less of a monopoly as folks move elsewhere
due to their conce
On Fri, 2018-06-08 at 15:06 -0700, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce
wrote:
> On 6/8/2018 3:02 PM, Brad Roberts wrote:
> > Essentially (if not actually) everything on github is available through
> > their
> > api's. No need for scraping or other heroics to gather it.
>
> That's good to kn
On 06/09/2018 03:56 AM, Kagamin wrote:
On Saturday, 9 June 2018 at 07:06:23 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
Whether web API or web scraping: Either way, you still have to submit
an HTTP request, parse the results according to the format the server
has chosen to spit out, and possibly fol
On Saturday, 9 June 2018 at 07:06:23 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
(Abscissa) wrote:
Whether web API or web scraping: Either way, you still have to
submit an HTTP request, parse the results according to the
format the server has chosen to spit out, and possibly follow
up with additional HTTP requests.
On 06/08/2018 06:02 PM, Brad Roberts wrote:
Essentially (if not actually) everything on github is available through
their api's. No need for scraping or other heroics to gather it.
That does make things a little bit simpler, but web scraping really
isn't all that much more complicated.
Wh
On Saturday, 9 June 2018 at 02:09:20 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 6/8/2018 5:54 PM, Kapps wrote:
Personally I think the fear of Microsoft ruining GitHub is
completely unfounded.
My concern has nothing to do with Microsoft. It's about not
totally relying on any third party not under our contro
On Saturday, 9 June 2018 at 00:54:08 UTC, Kapps wrote:
Personally I think the fear of Microsoft ruining GitHub is
completely unfounded. Just look at what they did to Xamarin.
They bought an interesting product and then made it free for
individuals, open sourced it, and improved it drastically
On 6/8/2018 5:54 PM, Kapps wrote:
Personally I think the fear of Microsoft ruining GitHub is completely unfounded.
My concern has nothing to do with Microsoft. It's about not totally relying on
any third party not under our control.
On Friday, 8 June 2018 at 22:06:29 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 6/8/2018 3:02 PM, Brad Roberts wrote:
Essentially (if not actually) everything on github is
available through their api's. No need for scraping or other
heroics to gather it.
That's good to know! The situation I was concerned wi
On 6/8/2018 3:02 PM, Brad Roberts wrote:
Essentially (if not actually) everything on github is available through their
api's. No need for scraping or other heroics to gather it.
That's good to know! The situation I was concerned with is it going dark all of
a sudden.
BTW, if someone wants t
On 6/8/2018 2:34 PM, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
On 6/7/2018 10:01 PM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
And that is why it's a bad thing to build a walled garden around a code
repo, esp. when the underlying VCS is well capable of distributed
development. If only there has been a standard p
On 6/7/2018 10:01 PM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
And that is why it's a bad thing to build a walled garden around a code
repo, esp. when the underlying VCS is well capable of distributed
development. If only there has been a standard protocol for
communicating such associated content, such as PR comments
On Fri, Jun 08, 2018 at 02:02:12PM -0400, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
> On 06/08/2018 01:01 AM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> > but the valuable associated information like PR discussions is
> > specific to Github and there is no easy way (if there's a way at
> > all!) to ex
On 06/08/2018 01:01 AM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
but the valuable associated information like PR
discussions is specific to Github and there is no easy way (if there's a
way at all!) to export this data and import it elsewhere.
For importing, you may be right. For exporting, I'm not sure I agree.
Wit
On Thursday, 7 June 2018 at 19:02:31 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
On Thu, 2018-06-07 at 10:17 -0700, H. S. Teoh via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
[…]
Exactly!!! Git was built precisely for decentralized,
distributed development. Anyone should be (and is, if they
bothered to put just a tiny amo
On Thu, Jun 07, 2018 at 05:11:40PM -0700, Walter Bright via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
> On 6/7/2018 10:17 AM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> > Exactly!!! Git was built precisely for decentralized, distributed
> > development. Anyone should be (and is, if they bothered to put just
> > a tiny amount of e
On 6/7/2018 10:17 AM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Exactly!!! Git was built precisely for decentralized, distributed
development. Anyone should be (and is, if they bothered to put just a
tiny amount of effort into it) able to set up a git server and send the
URL to prospective collaborators. Anyone is fr
On 6/7/2018 4:00 PM, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
Yea, it certainly does have that going for it. And I have no real big objections
to bugzilla. It would be nice, though, if it were better (and more cleanly)
integrated with GitHub/GitLab/BitBucket/etc., and if its data were all
distributive
On 06/07/2018 04:36 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 6/6/2018 10:28 PM, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
Keep in mind, if we had been commoditizing and decentralizing
repository hosting, issue tracking, PRs, user accounts, etc. right
from the start like we should've been, then this MS buyout of Git
On Thursday, June 07, 2018 20:02:31 Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d-announce
wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-06-07 at 10:17 -0700, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d-announce
>
> wrote:
> > […]
> >
> > Exactly!!! Git was built precisely for decentralized, distributed
> > development. Anyone should be (and is, i
On Thu, 2018-06-07 at 10:17 -0700, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d-announce
wrote:
> […]
>
> Exactly!!! Git was built precisely for decentralized, distributed
> development. Anyone should be (and is, if they bothered to put just a
> tiny amount of effort into it) able to set up a git server and sen
On Thu, Jun 07, 2018 at 01:28:26AM -0400, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
[...]
> In any case, I've always thought it was absolutely sick that that even
> though GitHub/BitBucket/GitLab/Launchpad/etc. all provide basically
> the same features on top of the standard ***
On Thursday, 7 June 2018 at 05:28:26 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
(Abscissa) wrote:
On 06/03/2018 11:51 PM, Anton Fediushin wrote:
What's your opinion about that? Will you continue using GitHub?
The obvious question is "Will MS use evil/strongarm shenanigans
with GitHub?"
In any case, I've always
On 08/06/2018 12:03 AM, drug wrote:
isn't it a niche for THE application that could be written in D?
I don't think D brings anything to the table when it comes to VCS.
It'll be nicer code, but it won't be noticed by users kind of nice.
On the other hand, Weka.IO does bring a lot to the table.
07.06.2018 14:12, Vladimir Panteleev пишет:
On Thursday, 7 June 2018 at 05:28:26 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
I've always felt GitLab was better than GitHub (in large part because
they're sensible enough to support self-hosting), so it's tempting to
use this as a great reason to move
On Thursday, 7 June 2018 at 05:28:26 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
(Abscissa) wrote:
I've always felt GitLab was better than GitHub (in large part
because they're sensible enough to support self-hosting), so
it's tempting to use this as a great reason to move to GitLab.
I've been following the discussi
On 6/6/2018 10:28 PM, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
Keep in mind, if we had been commoditizing and decentralizing repository
hosting, issue tracking, PRs, user accounts, etc. right from the start like we
should've been, then this MS buyout of GitHub would've been entirely irrelevant
to ever
On 06/03/2018 11:51 PM, Anton Fediushin wrote:
What's your opinion about that? Will you continue using GitHub?
The obvious question is "Will MS use evil/strongarm shenanigans with
GitHub?"
That would've been the one and only right question if this were the
90's. (And the answer probably w
On Tuesday, 5 June 2018 at 23:40:37 UTC, aberba wrote:
These people who complain don't usually contribute a penny to
Open source.
I dare doubt that this is true.
Frankly, Microsoft has done great things for the world with
software. Making computers accessible to everyone...
...and lock use
On Tuesday, 5 June 2018 at 17:12:00 UTC, Apocalypto wrote:
On Tuesday, 5 June 2018 at 16:12:25 UTC, RalphBa wrote:
Did you ever have the need to write something efficient? .NET
is a sandbox for children and UX people.
Oh yeah, toy applications for children like StackOverflow,
Siemens NX, Sol
On Tuesday, 5 June 2018 at 16:12:25 UTC, RalphBa wrote:
Did you ever have the need to write something efficient? .NET
is a sandbox for children and UX people.
Oh yeah, toy applications for children like StackOverflow,
Siemens NX, Solidworks, most of the Azure platform, MSSQL and
Visual Studi
On Tuesday, 5 June 2018 at 16:12:25 UTC, RalphBa wrote:
Of course it had to be losing money..how else would they have
convinced everyone it need to be aquired? That's long term Now
which company has done more for software development, besides
Microsoft?
GNU... oh sorry, you are speaking about c
Of course it had to be losing money..how else would they have
convinced everyone it need to be aquired? That's long term Now
which company has done more for software development, besides
Microsoft?
GNU... oh sorry, you are speaking about companies... Sun... ok,
open and free software isn't real
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 20:00:45 UTC, Maksim Fomin wrote:
Just as rough estimate: to support $7.5 bl valuation Microsoft
must turn -$30 ml. net loss company into business generating
around $750 ml. for many years. There is no way to get these
money from the market. Alternatively, the project
On Tuesday, 5 June 2018 at 03:53:31 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote:
GitHub has not been profitable for years and is thought to have
had cash reserves for only one or two more months of
operations. Losing GitHub entirely overnight would have been an
unmitigated disaster for the entire Open-Source commun
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 19:06:52 UTC, Maksim Fomin wrote:
My second reaction after reading news (after shock) was to
visit D forum.
Same here! I was off for a few days and found out today on GitHub
[1], and then I remembered the thread header talking about
GitLab. I'm skeptical to say th
On Tuesday, 5 June 2018 at 06:50:41 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote:
On 06/04/2018 11:46 PM, RalphBa wrote:
Sorry to hear that. Since I do not belive Microsoft changed
perspective and am convinced they still see open source as
cancer I need to assume they try to inflitrate the OSS
community the last ye
On 06/04/2018 11:46 PM, RalphBa wrote:
Sorry to hear that. Since I do not belive Microsoft changed perspective
and am convinced they still see open source as cancer I need to assume
they try to inflitrate the OSS community the last years. So for sure I
won't rely on their stuff.
So is there a
On 06/04/2018 08:53 PM, Adam Wilson wrote:
On 6/3/18 20:51, Anton Fediushin wrote:
This is still just a rumour, we'll know the truth on Monday (which is
today).
Some articles about the topic:
https://fossbytes.com/microsoft-github-aquisition-report/
https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/3/17422752/
Sorry to hear that. Since I do not belive Microsoft changed
perspective and am convinced they still see open source as cancer
I need to assume they try to inflitrate the OSS community the
last years. So for sure I won't rely on their stuff.
So is there a chance Digital Mars and D main developm
On 6/3/18 20:51, Anton Fediushin wrote:
This is still just a rumour, we'll know the truth on Monday (which is
today).
Some articles about the topic:
https://fossbytes.com/microsoft-github-aquisition-report/
https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/3/17422752/microsoft-github-acquisition-rumors
What
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 19:26:23 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 19:06:52 UTC, Maksim Fomin wrote:
[...]
Unlikely, you don't spend $7.5 billion on a company because you
want to send a message that you're a good dev tools company,
then neglect it.
I suggest you look at their
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 19:26:23 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 19:06:52 UTC, Maksim Fomin wrote:
Unlikely, you don't spend $7.5 billion on a company because you
want to send a message that you're a good dev tools company,
then neglect it.
You have no idea about how big corpo
On 6/4/18 2:46 PM, Anton Fediushin wrote:
Of course MS does, since they spent $5 billion on it. They will try
their best to make profit out of it, just like they did with LinkedIn.
$7.5 billion.
-Steve
On 6/3/18 11:51 PM, Anton Fediushin wrote:
This is still just a rumour, we'll know the truth on Monday (which is
today).
Some articles about the topic:
https://fossbytes.com/microsoft-github-aquisition-report/
https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/3/17422752/microsoft-github-acquisition-rumors
W
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 19:06:52 UTC, Maksim Fomin wrote:
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 08:42:08 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 6/3/2018 8:51 PM, Anton Fediushin wrote:
This is still just a rumour, we'll know the truth on Monday
(which is today).
We'll stay on Github as long as it continues to se
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 08:42:08 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 6/3/2018 8:51 PM, Anton Fediushin wrote:
This is still just a rumour, we'll know the truth on Monday
(which is today).
We'll stay on Github as long as it continues to serve our
interests, which it has done very well, and I have n
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 18:17:24 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 09:47:58 UTC, Anton Fediushin wrote:
Oh look, rumours are confirmed:
https://itsfoss.com/microsoft-github/
MS bought GitHub for $5 billion.
It's official, Nat Friedman, formerly of Xamarin, is the new
CEO:
http
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 09:47:58 UTC, Anton Fediushin wrote:
Oh look, rumours are confirmed:
https://itsfoss.com/microsoft-github/
MS bought GitHub for $5 billion.
It's official, Nat Friedman, formerly of Xamarin, is the new CEO:
https://blog.github.com/2018-06-04-github-microsoft/
MS is b
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 15:08:01 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
In many respects, they're better behaved than they used to be.
They're biggest problems seem to have to do with what they're
doing with Windows (e.g. tracking what you're doing and not
letting you turn it off). It's certainly not d
On Monday, June 04, 2018 14:51:24 Kagamin via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
> On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 05:50:26 UTC, Anton Fediushin wrote:
> > I can think of hundreds of things what can go wrong including:
> > forcing users to use Microsoft accounts
>
> That didn't happen to skype yet.
> MS recen
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 05:50:26 UTC, Anton Fediushin wrote:
I can think of hundreds of things what can go wrong including:
forcing users to use Microsoft accounts
That didn't happen to skype yet.
MS recently tries to mend its reputation, though the past will
linger for a while.
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 09:38:57 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 05:50:26 UTC, Anton Fediushin wrote:
I can think of hundreds of things what can go wrong including:
forcing users to use Microsoft accounts, advertising own
products, changing search to Bing (that's pret
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 08:42:08 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 6/3/2018 8:51 PM, Anton Fediushin wrote:
This is still just a rumour, we'll know the truth on Monday
(which is today).
We'll stay on Github as long as it continues to serve our
interests, which it has done very well, and I have n
Oh look, rumours are confirmed:
https://itsfoss.com/microsoft-github/
MS bought GitHub for $5 billion.
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 05:50:26 UTC, Anton Fediushin wrote:
I can think of hundreds of things what can go wrong including:
forcing users to use Microsoft accounts, advertising own
products, changing search to Bing (that's pretty bad one, no
idea how I came up with it) and more and more.
So
On 6/3/2018 8:51 PM, Anton Fediushin wrote:
This is still just a rumour, we'll know the truth on Monday (which is today).
We'll stay on Github as long as it continues to serve our interests, which it
has done very well, and I have no reason to believe will change.
We have a number of ties to
04.06.2018 09:02, Anton Fediushin пишет:
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 04:40:44 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On the bright side, maybe this will encourage online repo hosting to
become less of a monopoly as folks move elsewhere due to their
concerns about Microsoft.
- Jonathan M Davis
Can't agr
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 04:40:44 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On the bright side, maybe this will encourage online repo
hosting to become less of a monopoly as folks move elsewhere
due to their concerns about Microsoft.
- Jonathan M Davis
Can't agree more: GitLab and Bitbucket deserve more
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 04:26:25 UTC, Dmitry Olshansky wrote:
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 03:51:15 UTC, Anton Fediushin wrote:
This is still just a rumour, we'll know the truth on Monday
(which is today).
Some articles about the topic:
https://fossbytes.com/microsoft-github-aquisition-report/
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 03:57:37 UTC, Suliman wrote:
Git was never my favorite VCS. So I hope that this step will
open door for project like pijul.org
github.com is only site, not religious. So if it will be closed
people will move/create to its analogs.
Git has nothing to do with github, it
On Monday, June 04, 2018 03:51:15 Anton Fediushin via Digitalmars-d-announce
wrote:
> This is still just a rumour, we'll know the truth on Monday
> (which is today).
>
> Some articles about the topic:
>
> https://fossbytes.com/microsoft-github-aquisition-report/
> https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/3
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 03:51:15 UTC, Anton Fediushin wrote:
This is still just a rumour, we'll know the truth on Monday
(which is today).
Some articles about the topic:
https://fossbytes.com/microsoft-github-aquisition-report/
https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/3/17422752/microsoft-github-acqu
On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 03:51:15 UTC, Anton Fediushin wrote:
This is still just a rumour, we'll know the truth on Monday
(which is today).
Some articles about the topic:
https://fossbytes.com/microsoft-github-aquisition-report/
https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/3/17422752/microsoft-github-acqu
Git was never my favorite VCS. So I hope that this step will open
door for project like pijul.org
github.com is only site, not religious. So if it will be closed
people will move/create to its analogs.
This is still just a rumour, we'll know the truth on Monday
(which is today).
Some articles about the topic:
https://fossbytes.com/microsoft-github-aquisition-report/
https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/3/17422752/microsoft-github-acquisition-rumors
What's your opinion about that? Will you continu
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