On Wednesday, 12 November 2014 at 20:48:00 UTC, Jack Applegame
wrote:
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Thanks to all for the suggestions and reasoning!
I don't yet see a word which clicks in this case, but we got
multiple reasonable suggestions here. Perhaps I'll be fine with
one of them.
Ivan
On Tuesday, 11 November 2014 at 11:50:18 UTC, Ivan Kazmenko wrote:
Is there an official translation already? In TDPL, the (very
few) occurrences of range are translated as диапазон
(Cyrillic for diapason), how official is that? In Russian,
the term diapason in computerspeak is used to refer
On Tuesday, 11 November 2014 at 11:50:18 UTC, Ivan Kazmenko wrote:
Hi!
I'm unsure what is the Russian equivalent for the term range,
as in D range, the generalization of a pair of iterators.
I think последовательность (sequence) is the most appropriate,
because the defining characteristic
On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 11:38:50 +
thedeemon via Digitalmars-d-learn digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com
wrote:
some languages like F# and Clojure use this term (often shortened
to 'seq')
послед. rotfl.
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On Wednesday, 12 November 2014 at 11:38:52 UTC, thedeemon wrote:
On Tuesday, 11 November 2014 at 11:50:18 UTC, Ivan Kazmenko
wrote:
Hi!
I'm unsure what is the Russian equivalent for the term
range, as in D range, the generalization of a pair of
iterators.
I think последовательность
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:50:16 +
Ivan Kazmenko via Digitalmars-d-learn
digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com wrote:
Is there an official translation already? In TDPL, the (very
few) occurrences of range are translated as диапазон
methinks that последовательность[0] is better, albeit longer. but
Another synonym is list.
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:08:36 +
Kagamin via Digitalmars-d-learn digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com
wrote:
Another synonym is list.
hm... i afraid that it's not suitable. list has a well-defined meaning
in programming literature. ranges are definitely not lists (but list can
be a range).
ah!
I was thinking about list comprehension, which is what
programming on ranges is. Isn't it?
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:52:55 +
Kagamin via Digitalmars-d-learn digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com
wrote:
I was thinking about list comprehension, which is what
programming on ranges is. Isn't it?
list is a good term, but it's already taken. so naming range as
list will create unnecessary
On Tuesday, 11 November 2014 at 15:03:40 UTC, ketmar via
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:52:55 +
Kagamin via Digitalmars-d-learn
digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com
wrote:
I was thinking about list comprehension, which is what
programming on ranges is. Isn't it?
list is a
I was thinking about list comprehension, which is what
programming on ranges is. Isn't it?
list is a good term, but it's already taken. so naming
range as
list will create unnecessary confusion. alas. yet набор is
short
and easy, and it's not widely used, as set is translated as
множество.
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 15:38:26 +
Chris via Digitalmars-d-learn digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com wrote:
What does набор mean literally? What is it?
something like (unordered) set of something similar but not same,
which can (eventually) be counted and things can be extracted/added.
like this.
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Chris via Digitalmars-d-learn digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com wrote:
On Tuesday, 11 November 2014 at 15:03:40 UTC, ketmar via
Digitalmars-d-learn wrote:
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Kagamin via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Tuesday, 11 November 2014 at 16:10:33 UTC, ketmar via
Digitalmars-d-learn wrote:
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Chris via Digitalmars-d-learn
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On Tuesday, 11 November 2014 at 15:03:40 UTC, ketmar via
Digitalmars-d-learn wrote:
On Tue, 11 Nov
On Tuesday, 11 November 2014 at 14:52:56 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
I was thinking about list comprehension, which is what
programming on ranges is. Isn't it?
No, not really. It only applies to specific subset of ranges and
specific interpretation of list term. There is no
straightforward
On Tuesday, 11 November 2014 at 16:00:56 UTC, Ivan Kazmenko wrote:
The suggested translations диапазон (diapason), список
(list), последовательность (sequence), набор (collection)
all have something in common with the range concept, but all of
them seem to have a defined meaning in either
On Tuesday, 11 November 2014 at 16:09:06 UTC, ketmar via
Digitalmars-d-learn wrote:
набор ручек для писания, for example, as set of pens from
which one
pen can be taken and used (or another pen added to be used
later).
pretty similar to what range in D is, methinks.
Only if
On Tuesday, 11 November 2014 at 16:14:10 UTC, Chris wrote:
Does that entail the concept that ranges (in D) are homogeneous
(i.e. every member/item is of the same type)?
Yes (if you mean static type)
ElementType!Range is used extensively in Phobos
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:10:12 +
Dicebot via Digitalmars-d-learn digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com
wrote:
последовательность is solid generic term if you are not afraid
of making mathematicians mad
and it is totally unusable in practice. it's just too long and hard to
pronounce to be used
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 04:14:12PM +, Dicebot via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote:
On Tuesday, 11 November 2014 at 16:09:06 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d-learn
wrote:
набор ручек для писания, for example, as set of pens from which
one pen can be taken and used (or another pen added to be used
On Tuesday, 11 November 2014 at 16:15:36 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
On Tuesday, 11 November 2014 at 16:14:10 UTC, Chris wrote:
Does that entail the concept that ranges (in D) are
homogeneous (i.e. every member/item is of the same type)?
Yes (if you mean static type)
ElementType!Range is used
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:50:23 +
Chris via Digitalmars-d-learn digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com wrote:
On Tuesday, 11 November 2014 at 16:15:36 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
On Tuesday, 11 November 2014 at 16:14:10 UTC, Chris wrote:
Does that entail the concept that ranges (in D) are
homogeneous
On 11/11/2014 08:10 AM, ketmar via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote:
What does набор mean literally? What is it?
ah, yes, collection is a good translation. yet the word коллекция
is used literally in some of the programming books.
The separate concepts collection and range better have separate
On Tuesday, 11 November 2014 at 18:39:09 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:
The separate concepts collection and range better have
separate words.
Ali
This is especially important because collection tends to have
certain connotation with container and confusion between ranges
and containers is a
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