Re: [digitalradio] Cheapest foray in to Pactor

2006-03-05 Thread Tim Gorman
AE4TM has posted a graph based on real world results using groundwave at various distances. It shows PI starts its dropoff at 10db S/N. It is a gradual dropoff to about a S/N of -5db to 0db. Somewhere in that range things go down very steeply. PII maintains its throughput from +30db S/N all th

Re: [digitalradio] Cheapest foray in to Pactor

2006-03-05 Thread KV9U
Hola, Jose, I know exactly what graph you speak of but it is not on their web site any longer and I could not find it anywhere else. When I wrote my initial message I was going to put the claim that SCS had some years ago about how deep into the noise the Pactor modes can go. But I could not

Re: [digitalradio] Cheapest foray in to Pactor

2006-03-05 Thread Roger J. Buffington
John Becker wrote: >My first 2 Pk-232 did not have pactor but the >3rd unit Release 01.DEC.1983 Ver. 07 has Pactor. >I did see one on ebay for just 75 bucks. > >John > > Again, remember that the PK232 can only support Pactor 1, which is not in wide use. Pactor 2 and above are what is used mos

Re: [digitalradio] Cheapest foray in to Pactor

2006-03-05 Thread Andrew O'Brien
On 3/5/06, Roger J. Buffington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Remember that the PK232 will only do FEC and Pactor (arq) 1--it will > not do Pactor 2 which is what Winlink uses. For that you pretty much > have to have an actual SCS TNC. > > de Roger W6VZV > > > Thanks Roger, that is what I was won

Re: [digitalradio] Cheapest foray in to Pactor

2006-03-05 Thread John Becker
My first 2 Pk-232 did not have pactor but the 3rd unit Release 01.DEC.1983 Ver. 07 has Pactor. I did see one on ebay for just 75 bucks. John At 09:13 PM 3/4/06, you wrote: >Cheapest foray in to Pactor? > >IF I was to try to become QRV on Pactor (transmit capability), what >is the cheapest wa

Re: [digitalradio] Cheapest foray in to Pactor

2006-03-05 Thread Roger J. Buffington
Andrew O'Brien wrote: >Cheapest foray in to Pactor? > >IF I was to try to become QRV on Pactor (transmit capability), what >is the cheapest way to get going. I have an old Pk232 that I could >upgrade for $130 or so, any cheaper alternatives? >-- >Andy K3UK >Skype:andyobrien73 >Also on Echolink

Re: [digitalradio] Cheapest foray in to Pactor

2006-03-05 Thread Rein Couperus
The cheapest way is HFTERM, a soundcard program for Linux. (Linux is free). That will give you PACTOR 1 capability for $0.00, and you can join the ranks of the other broadbanders (HFTERM can not decode PSK or other 'nice' modes, so they just butt in regardless 73, Rein, EA/PA0R/P digital

Re: [digitalradio] Cheapest foray in to Pactor

2006-03-05 Thread Jose Amador
--- KV9U <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I used to operate Amtor, Pactor I (and Clover II) a > decade or two ago, > when we had the old Aplink and later Winlink > systems. But at the time I > did not have a good idea of how deep into the noise > these modes could > work. Is it possible for some

Re: [digitalradio] Cheapest foray in to Pactor

2006-03-04 Thread KV9U
I used to operate Amtor, Pactor I (and Clover II) a decade or two ago, when we had the old Aplink and later Winlink systems. But at the time I did not have a good idea of how deep into the noise these modes could work. Is it possible for some of you folks who have Pactor (II and III as well, i

[digitalradio] Cheapest foray in to Pactor

2006-03-04 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Cheapest foray in to Pactor? IF I was to try to become QRV on Pactor (transmit capability), what is the cheapest way to get going. I have an old Pk232 that I could upgrade for $130 or so, any cheaper alternatives? -- Andy K3UK Skype:andyobrien73 Also on Echolink Need a Digital mode QSO? Conne