Re: [digitalradio] Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-02-01 Thread Jose A. Amador
I have not followed the whole thread but I wouldn't be too sure to believe that Windows flaws exist per se and are not a result of agreements with somebody else, as some conspiracy theories state. Just in case, it is safer to use a third party firewall, or run a "bastillized" *n?x. Jose, CO2J

Re: [digitalradio] Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-02-01 Thread kd4e
> But the security debate isn't simple enough to be about propaganda -- > It's about history, and the evolution of the PC. And, again... I > can TELL you how it is, cuz I was there and I've *read* the code of > the operating systems we're discussing. > I'm out of this conversation, > de Peter K1P

RE: [digitalradio] Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-02-01 Thread Peter G. Viscarola
> > > MS has *always* lagged behind Unix, Linux, BSD, and Apple > in this area. Always. MS propaganda aside. ... > > NT/2000 was a desperate attempt by MS to stem the bleeding > because everyone else's OS's were less vulnerable and it > was at-best embarassing, at worse was harming them at >

Re: [digitalradio] Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-02-01 Thread kd4e
Peter G. Viscarola wrote: >> Unix was *always* secure and Linux flowed out of Unix as did BSD. >> Unix is very old. >> > > I don't know what you're background in the computer field is, and I > don't mean to turn this into a resume review, but I've been writing > operating systems and OS-level c

RE: [digitalradio] Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-02-01 Thread Peter G. Viscarola
> >Unix was *always* secure and Linux flowed out of Unix >as did BSD. Unix is very old. > I don't know what you're background in the computer field is, and I don't mean to turn this into a resume review, but I've been writing operating systems and OS-level components since, oh, 1978. Your statem

Re: [digitalradio] Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-02-01 Thread KV9U
Like most things, both posters reflect truth as they see it. Perhaps the same for me:) Microsoft happened to be in the right place at the right time to buy an OS from a third party to allow IBM 808x chips to at least work at a rudimentary level. Cassette tape loading, that sort of thing at fir

Re: [digitalradio] Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-02-01 Thread Simon Brown
- Original Message - From: "kd4e" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Unix was *always* secure and Linux flowed out of Unix > as did BSD. Unix is very old. > No way matey - I have used UNIX distributions where the username / password was stored in plain text. I refer to Ultrix in the mid to late 1

Re: [digitalradio] Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-02-01 Thread kd4e
>> 7. While Microsoft made a passing attempt at retrofitting security >> into its early operating systems, they didn't get any money for this. >> So, we should be extremely grateful that they actually fixed security >> problems for 8 years for Windows 98. Other companies would not >> support a

RE: [digitalradio] Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-01-31 Thread Peter G. Viscarola
> >73 and thanks for your patience in reading, and I hope understanding all >of the above. > >Jim VA3JNO > Thanks Jim for what is, to me, the most intelligent post related to operating systems that I've seen on this list. de Peter K1PGV (I am not now, nor have I ever been, employed by MSFT)

Re: [digitalradio] Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-01-31 Thread Jim Orcheson
I have been following this thread. Is the fact that a number of applications will "break" with Vista a problem? Of course it is. But this has been the case for the last several (many) versions of MS Windows, and most other operating system upgrades as well. But before condemning Microsoft for brea

Re: [digitalradio] Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-01-31 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
Interesting. Run PSK on AM and you get two sidebands for diversity reception and a pilot carrier. This could make building small PSK rigs easier... Leigh/WA5ZNU On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 7:38 am, DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA wrote: > > http://www.fcw.com/article97508-01-30-07-Web&printLayout > > I

Re: [digitalradio] Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-01-31 Thread Simon Brown
- Original Message - From: "Salomao Fresco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Tested on Vista RC2 - Mixw does NOT work, it needs to be in "compatibility > mode" I'm not assocuiated with MixW myself, in fact I've never used it. When I get my soundcard DLL written for VISTA I'll make the source ava

Re: [digitalradio] Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-01-31 Thread Salomao Fresco
Hi! Tested on Vista RC2 - Mixw does NOT work, it needs to be in "compatibility mode" Regards On 1/31/07, Simon Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are new APIs for accessing soundcards, these should be used for best > results. > > For my multitudinous sins I'll have to put a VISTA crate t

Re: [digitalradio] Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-01-31 Thread Simon Brown
There are new APIs for accessing soundcards, these should be used for best results. For my multitudinous sins I'll have to put a VISTA crate together to provide this support. the XP code still works but one really should use the new APIs. Other than that I don't see any problems with running c

Re: [digitalradio] Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-01-31 Thread Alan NV8A
On 01/31/07 10:37 am DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA wrote: > http://www.fcw.com/article97508-01-30-07-Web&printLayout > > I wonder how many amateur radio applications will be "broken" if someone > moves to Vista? Micro$$oft's previous "upgrades" have often broken apps. I had an app that worked