Re: [digitalradio] PSK-ARQ versus ALE-400

2009-05-28 Thread Simon (HB9DRV)
As has been mentioned before, the best way to get the various flavours of ALE400 added to the various digital programs we use is to make source code available, failing that a good spec. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: Andy obrien

Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSK-ARQ versus ALE-400

2009-05-28 Thread Simon (HB9DRV)
This is where a combination of Patrick's RSID idea (also in fldigi and DM780 5.0 and PocketDigi) and SDR will help. On July 1st I want to start writing my own Windows SDR console, initially for SoftRock and later other SDR radios. Instead of monitoring ~3kHz as at present we'll be able to

[digitalradio] How do I get started with digital radio?

2009-05-28 Thread evanp63
I let my license expire twenty years or so ago but recently took the test for a new license and passed. I'll be getting it (an Extra) in a few weeks. I got rid of my equipment years ago so have no radio gear. I got interested in Ham radio again after joining the local Search and Rescue

Re: [digitalradio] How do I get started with digital radio?

2009-05-28 Thread Simon (HB9DRV)
A good HF radio +6m is the 100W Kenwood TS-480SAT - you can pick this up second-hand. It is a very good performer and an excellent HF radio for digital in general. Also the IC-703+ which is 10W and no mean machine. As for VHF / UHF I'll let others make suggestions. Simon Brown, HB9DRV

Re: [digitalradio] How do I get started with digital radio?

2009-05-28 Thread Toby Burnett
Hi there, I'm working at the moment but just thought I'd say that you can get on FM 2M Packet with just about the cheapest rig you can get and a sub standard PC or old laptop. I'm out of range of my packet node up here in the outer Hebrides. But at the previous QTH I used an old hand held with

Re: [digitalradio] How do I get started with digital radio?

2009-05-28 Thread kh6ty
For about $500 you can get a secondhand IC-706MKIIG and be able to work SSB, CW, FM, or digital modes from 160m through UHF. 73, Skip KH6TY

Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSK-ARQ versus ALE-400

2009-05-28 Thread Rick W
Say, John, you also use Pactor 2 and 3 which are always 100 baud PSK modes. Do you find that these modes work through the ionospheric conditions when sound card modes, even those with similar modes do not? I find PSK to be rather poor at times here at 44 degrees N latitude, unless you are

Re: [digitalradio] How do I get started with digital radio?

2009-05-28 Thread bruce mallon
AVOID FT-100 or 100D --- On Thu, 5/28/09, kh6ty kh...@comcast.net wrote: From: kh6ty kh...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [digitalradio] How do I get started with digital radio? To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 7:36 AM For about $500 you can get a secondhand

Re: [digitalradio] How do I get started with digital radio?

2009-05-28 Thread Rick Westerfield
Avoid the Icom IC-718 if you want to do push to talk by CAT command. Icom chose not to put PTT by CAT in the command word set. There are other methods of doin PTT but CAT is by far the most elegant. Rick - KH2DF Sent from my iPhone On May 28, 2009, at 9:06 AM, bruce mallon wa4...@yahoo.com

Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSK-ARQ versus ALE-400

2009-05-28 Thread José A. Amador
Rick W escribió: Say, John, you also use Pactor 2 and 3 which are always 100 baud PSK modes. Pactor and Pactor 2 can work at 200 baud. Buit it requires little multipath and good SNR. Do you find that these modes work through the ionospheric conditions when sound card modes, even those

RE: [digitalradio] PSK-ARQ versus ALE-400

2009-05-28 Thread John Bradley
Simon; That said, what would it take to convince you and Patrick to work on a project,(besides time), hm? John VE5MU As has been mentioned before, the best way to get the various flavours of ALE400 added to the various digital programs we use is to make source code available, failing

Re: [digitalradio] PSK-ARQ versus ALE-400

2009-05-28 Thread Simon (HB9DRV)
Hi, I'm working on at least a million lines of code in various Ham projects - the easiest way for me to add a new mode is if I have the source. Patrick writes in Pascal, myself in C++. To be honest I see Olivia and MT63 as the most reliable modes out there. Simon Brown, HB9DRV

Re: [digitalradio] PSK-ARQ versus ALE-400

2009-05-28 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello John and all, I have suggested to Patrick in the past that he does an emcomm version of multipsk.. PSK,MFSK, ALE 400 and 141, and maybe Olivia. Not to remove these from the software but just take all the other options off the user interface.. hide the buttons of you wish. At the time,

Re: [digitalradio] PSK-ARQ versus ALE-400

2009-05-28 Thread Simon (HB9DRV)
When the C++ code is available I'll take a look for sure :) I understand not shipping your code if it's mixed up elsewhere. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: Patrick Lindecker ... is developping a C++ code for ALE, which will be available

[digitalradio] Re: VE5MU High Latitude ionosphere and digital modes

2009-05-28 Thread Tony
John VE5MU wrote: I live at a higher latitude than many folks There are times up here that nothing will decode PSK despite the fact the band is open and active. I'm very glad you brought this up to the group John. High latitude path distortion is one of the best examples of why we

[digitalradio] Re: VE5MU High Latitude ionosphere and digital modes

2009-05-28 Thread Tony
John VE5MU wrote: I live at a higher latitude than many folks There are times up here that nothing will decode PSK despite the fact the band is open and active. I'm very glad you brought this up to the group John. High latitude path distortion is one of the best examples of why we should

[digitalradio] What PSKmail Server is online.

2009-05-28 Thread Russell Blair
If you want to know what PSKmail server and where it is and the times. You can go out to (http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/) down the left side of the page find Pskmail server, network and On Air, and take a look. Russell NC5O Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats

[digitalradio] Re: What mode is on 3.5820?

2009-05-28 Thread frankk2ncc
Any follow up on this Dave? f

[digitalradio] More on ALE 400 FAE

2009-05-28 Thread Andy obrien
First, is it really ALE as used currently? I am not sure that the recent tests of this mode have actually used it in the form of establishing an automatic link. I know it can be used this way , but do not see this. If it is not really ALE, what should it be called ? Second, the performance of

[digitalradio] Really beating the AGC issue with PSK ?

2009-05-28 Thread Andy obrien
From time to time we have had discussions here about the problem with PSK (and other modes) when a strong stations appears to grab the waterfall and wipe out all the other stations within a 2-3 Khz range. Because of this phenomenon, when I purchased a new rig, I looked for one that could have AGC

Re: [digitalradio] Really beating the AGC issue with PSK ?

2009-05-28 Thread Sholto Fisher
When I use MultiPSK, I make sure the mic input is high (say 30% - 50%) then use MultiPSK's waterfall AGC which often shows the weaker signals as well as the loud one. I also use the manual notch on the rig to help out. 73 Sholto Andy obrien wrote: From time to time we have had

Re: [digitalradio] More on ALE 400 FAE

2009-05-28 Thread Tony
Andy, First, is it really ALE as used currently? I am not sure that the recent tests of this mode have actually used it in the form of establishing an automatic link. I haven't Andy. I think it would be put to better use as an ARQ chat mode. Tony -K2MO

Re: [digitalradio] Really beating the AGC issue with PSK ?

2009-05-28 Thread Phil Barnett
Andy obrien wrote: From time to time we have had discussions here about the problem with PSK (and other modes) when a strong stations appears to grab the waterfall and wipe out all the other stations within a 2-3 Khz range. Because of this phenomenon, when I purchased a new rig, I looked for

[digitalradio] Re: Really beating the AGC issue with PSK ?

2009-05-28 Thread aa777888athotmaildotcom
Buy an IC7000 ;-) I run my 7000 with 150Hz filter width for PSK31 and if that's not small enough I'll put one or both manual notches into play to narrow things further. I can only define three filters and I have to do that at the rig, there is no provision to do it via CAT. But I can choose

[digitalradio] QRV 14074.0 ALE-400 FAE

2009-05-28 Thread Tony
All, Anyone care for an ARQ chat? I'm QRV ALE-400 FAE... 14074.0 USB + 1600Hz -- beaming west. Time is 00:45z... Tony -K2MO

RE: [digitalradio] Really beating the AGC issue with PSK ?

2009-05-28 Thread r_lwesterfield
My Icom 746 suffers the same problem. I had hoped that the Elecraft K3 that I had in mind would solve this issue for me as well but maybe not. The review in QST was the best they ever gave but maybe I hope for too much. Rick - KH2DF _ From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com

Re: [digitalradio] QRV 14074.0 ALE-400 FAE

2009-05-28 Thread Andy obrien
I'm there too K3UK On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote: All, Anyone care for an ARQ chat? I'm QRV ALE-400 FAE... 14074.0 USB + 1600Hz -- beaming west. Time is 00:45z... Tony -K2MO

[digitalradio] 14074. MHZ - What Is That?

2009-05-28 Thread r_lwesterfi...@bellsouth.net
Anybody know what that is on 14.074? Rick - KH2DF/W5

RE: [digitalradio] 14074. MHZ - What Is That?

2009-05-28 Thread r_lwesterfield
Ahh . . . thanks Andy. ALE 400. It has been a while since I heard it. Rick - KH2DF/W5 _ From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r_lwesterfi...@bellsouth.net Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:33 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com

Re: [digitalradio] More on ALE 400 FAE

2009-05-28 Thread Rick W
Andy, The FAE modes are not really all that new. I had promoted it back in July 2007 on one of the eham forums when I asked if other public service operators planned to use this protocol. There have been very few hams interested in such a mode. My personal preference is to refer to it as FAE,

RE: [digitalradio] 14074. MHZ - What Is That?

2009-05-28 Thread David Little
ALE 400 ARQ I believe David KD4NUE CQ K7TMGK2MO K7TMG DE K2MO ok tony back ag ain in FAE. The other ARQ is nowhere near as f -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of r_lwesterfi...@bellsouth.net Sent:

RE: [digitalradio] More on ALE 400 FAE and a proposed test

2009-05-28 Thread John Bradley
I have used ALE400 as ALE , in fact setting up the menu so that a station will respond to a net call such as ARES. With tests it is an easy way to see who is on freq as each station programmed to respond will do so ... timing can be set as well. For test purposes we could all program a net

Re: [digitalradio] QRV 14074.0 ALE-400 FAE

2009-05-28 Thread Tony
Still QRV... 14074.0 USB - ALE-400 FAE -- ARQ CHAT MODE... Time is 0245z... Tony -K2MO All, Anyone care for an ARQ chat? I'm QRV ALE-400 FAE... 14074.0 USB + 1600Hz -- beaming west. Tony -K2MO

[digitalradio] ALE400

2009-05-28 Thread John Bradley
This mode used as ALE is much superior to PC-ALE since you can determine if the path is there by sounding, and then do a connect to pass traffic using the same software. The other station can be unattended in this process. ALE141 also works well in exactly the same manner, no difference in

[digitalradio] ALE-400 FAE -- ARQ Collisions

2009-05-28 Thread Tony
All, It's important to make sure your rigs vox delay is off when working ALE-400-ARQ. We've managed to cause a few tx/rx change-over collisions while in QSO by forgetting to turn it off. Tony -K2MO

[digitalradio] Re: QRV 14074.0 ALE-400 FAE

2009-05-28 Thread Ed Hekman
Tony, Sorry I didn't have time to stop and chat. I copied your QSO with John, VE5MU, from beginning to end while I was eating dinner and reading the mail. You were strong at the beginning but John was stronger at the end. The repeat rate was around 2:1 at the beginning and increased towards