Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates

2010-10-08 Thread Eric Hoch
Hi Scott, Am Thu, 07 Oct 2010 17:49:48 -0600 schrieb Scott Furry: On 07/10/10 05:00 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2010-10-07 6:05 PM, Scott Furry wrote: On 07/10/10 03:04 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: Maybe what is needed is some simple communication to the major distros to see what form would

Re: [tdf-discuss] How to access the settings to the mailing list.

2010-10-08 Thread Heinz W. Simoneit
Hi Dona, cocofan schrieb: There doesn't seem to be a link to how to change the settings to this email list on the website. Is there a way for a subscriber to change settings? I would like change to a digest format to cut down on the amount of email I'm getting from this mailing list.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates

2010-10-08 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Per Eriksson wrote: Do we have skilled people here who are interested in beginning with this effort, and maybe start planning for this feature? I've always been interested in pushing things like this forward ;-) Hi Per, let me Cc two MSI packaging experts to comment on patchability

Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates

2010-10-08 Thread Drew Jensen
On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 09:23 +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote: Per Eriksson wrote: Do we have skilled people here who are interested in beginning with this effort, and maybe start planning for this feature? I've always been interested in pushing things like this forward ;-) Hi Per,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates

2010-10-08 Thread Eric Hoch
Hi Am Fri, 8 Oct 2010 00:18:19 +0700 schrieb Nguyen Vu Hung: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:27 AM, Michele Zarri m.za...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/10/10 22:21, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 14:21 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2010-10-06 2:06 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: Yes there

Re: [tdf-discuss] QA Infrastructure

2010-10-08 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Caio Tiago Oliveira wrote: the OpenOffice.org QA project has things like QATrack, QUASTe, and TCM - but I wonder which of those pass the test of we really need it I actually believe that these are fundamental tools to assess quality of a build, and that insufficient testing could mean that

Re: [tdf-discuss] Document Foundation - list archive - emails in clear

2010-10-08 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Jean, *, Jean Hollis Weber schrieb: [.. clear text mailadresses in tdf mailarchive ..] To answer Scott's original question: It's not something that concerns me personally. My many email addresses are all over the internet, so having my address harvested from another list makes no

LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread Scott Furry
Hello all, I'm thinking the its time to dig out of the weeds/details and make this a more meaningful discussion for everyone. I'll do my best to avoid excessive verbiage, as well as keep the my soap box stances to a minimum. Charles M (the Original Poster - OP) thought that a better install

Re: [tdf-discuss] Document Foundation - list archive - emails in clear

2010-10-08 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Goran, *, Goran Rakic schrieb: У пет, 08. 10 2010. у 08:56 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber пише: Many of the other lists that I subscribe to have the email addresses given as something like j...@ in the archives. However, the OOo archives have them in plain text. I believe this should

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: US Group Status

2010-10-08 Thread Italo Vignoli
jonathon wrote: Three conflicting interests here: * The US Market; * The Anglophone market; * Countries where English is used; From my POV, one of the things that hampered OOo adoption in the United States, was that there was not a marketing team that focused exclusively on the US. I

Re: [tdf-discuss] QA Infrastructure

2010-10-08 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Nguyen Vu Hung, *, hope this is the correct appellation.. first of all: I'm not involved in Software development and neither in QA *therefore* I'm answering here. :o)) Nguyen Vu Hung schrieb: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier damokles4-lis...@bits-fritz.de wrote:

Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates

2010-10-08 Thread Robert Sedak
On 8.10.2010 9:23, Thorsten Behrens wrote: Per Eriksson wrote: Do we have skilled people here who are interested in beginning with this effort, and maybe start planning for this feature? I've always been interested in pushing things like this forward ;-) Hi Per, let me Cc two MSI

[tdf-discuss] Hear the Google pronunciation of LibreOffice - Just for fun

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
For those still concerned with the pronunciation of Libre Office in their particular language, you may want to try the Google translate and hear the result in a Google styled playback of the word. I have found that Google deals with the pronunciation better if you separate the words -- Libre

[tdf-discuss] LinkedIn group?

2010-10-08 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Do we have a group on LinkedIn yet? A search didn't find one. --Jean -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at

Re: [tdf-discuss] LinkedIn group?

2010-10-08 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 13:41 +0200, Markus Gommel wrote: Hello Jean, Am 08.10.2010 13:36, schrieb Jean Hollis Weber: Do we have a group on LinkedIn yet? A search didn't find one. --Jean Yes we have ;-) http://www.linkedin.com/groups?mostPopular=gid=3469260 Best whises and see you

Re: [tdf-discuss] Hear the Google pronunciation of LibreOffice - Just for fun

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-08 6:08 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Also note that the English pronunciation is actually quite good! :-) It sounded like Library Office to me... :( -- Best regards, Charles -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this

Re: [tdf-discuss] Hear the Google pronunciation of LibreOffice - Just for fun

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-08 08:00, Charles Marcus a écrit : On 2010-10-08 6:08 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Also note that the English pronunciation is actually quite good! :-) It sounded like Library Office to me... :( Hmmm... did you type it in the right way? You would have to add to the Libre word to make it

Re: [tdf-discuss] Hear the Google pronunciation of LibreOffice - Just for fun

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-08 8:04 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-10-08 08:00, Charles Marcus a écrit : On 2010-10-08 6:08 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Also note that the English pronunciation is actually quite good! :-) It sounded like Library Office to me... :( Hmmm... did you type it in the right way? You would

Re: [tdf-discuss] Hear the Google pronunciation of LibreOffice - Just for fun

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-08 8:12 AM, Charles Marcus wrote: Again, it sounds like 'Library Office' to me: http://translate.google.com/#fr|en|LibreOffice Ok, the link gets busted because of the pipe symbol, so try this: http://tinyurl.com/38hsrzc -- Best regards, Charles -- To unsubscribe, send an

Re: [tdf-discuss] Hear the Google pronunciation of LibreOffice - Just for fun

2010-10-08 Thread Jussi Silvonen
Hi, the pronunciation was not very clear for me. When I pronounce LibreOffice I have in my mind Cuba Libre, and pronounce the Libre in the same way. JusSi 2010/10/8 Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com It sounded like Library Office to me... :(

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: US Group Status

2010-10-08 Thread jonathon
On 10/08/2010 01:21 AM, Marc Paré wrote: I think that could be said for most countries -- Canada, where I am. zh-ca being one example of a localization Canada needs, but does not yet have. Whilst not strictly a marketing issue, they are the ones that have to deal with such failures. jonathon

Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-07 7:49 PM, Scott Furry wrote: On 07/10/10 05:00 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2010-10-07 6:05 PM, Scott Furry wrote: On 07/10/10 03:04 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: I have seen an ActiveX plugin installed in Firefox (which I promptly removed). There was only one *3rd party* effort

Re: [tdf-discuss] Hear the Google pronunciation of LibreOffice - Just for fun

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-08 08:16, Charles Marcus a écrit : On 2010-10-08 8:12 AM, Charles Marcus wrote: Again, it sounds like 'Library Office' to me: http://translate.google.com/#fr|en|LibreOffice Ok, the link gets busted because of the pipe symbol, so try this: http://tinyurl.com/38hsrzc Actually,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-08 3:23 AM, Thorsten Behrens wrote: Per Eriksson wrote: Do we have skilled people here who are interested in beginning with this effort, and maybe start planning for this feature? I've always been interested in pushing things like this forward ;-) let me Cc two MSI packaging

Re: [tdf-discuss] Hear the Google pronunciation of LibreOffice - Just for fun

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-08 08:19, Jussi Silvonen a écrit : Hi, the pronunciation was not very clear for me. When I pronounce LibreOffice I have in my mind Cuba Libre, and pronounce the Libre in the same way. JusSi 2010/10/8 Charles Marcuscmar...@media-brokers.com It sounded like Library Office to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Document Foundation - list archive - emails in clear

2010-10-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Am 08.10.2010 um 10:13 schrieb Friedrich Strohmaier: I believe this should be prevented. I just found in docs that there is a SPAMMODE option: http://mhonarc.org/MHonArc/doc/resources/spammode.html +1 Honestly, I disagree. Hiding mail addresses really doesn't help that much, and to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Mailing list user preferences?

2010-10-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Am 07.10.2010 um 14:48 schrieb Charles Marcus: Is there an interface where users can adjust their own user preferences? If not, is this a permanent situation, or just until more infrastructure is in place? I'd really like the ability to set certain user prefs - like subject tags (I

Re: [tdf-discuss] Shorter mailing list prefix?

2010-10-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Am 07.10.2010 um 15:30 schrieb Charles Marcus: I don't care what the list name itself is, I'm talking about the [SUBJECT TAG]. So I'll reiterate - if these huge/long subject tags are going to be implemented, please, please provide user customizable list options so that users who don't

Re: [tdf-discuss] Hear the Google pronunciation of LibreOffice - Just for fun

2010-10-08 Thread Jussi Silvonen
Hi, 2010/10/8 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com LibreOffice. Should it sound more like Libre Offiz in Spanish? Marc Jep, this could be OK for me, JusSi -- Jussi Silvonen http://www.mendeley.com/profiles/jussi-silvonen/ http://mosapiha.wordpress.com/ http://silvonen.wordpress.com/ Free software

Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe NOT working!!!

2010-10-08 Thread Ian Whitfield
Hi All Whoever is running this list PLEASE sort the Unsubscribe system out!! When I originally subscribed I got two automatic replies and the mail started to come in the next day - No problem However I find there is just too much traffic and decided to unsubscribe. I sent off two

Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe NOT working!!!

2010-10-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Ian, PLEASE sort this out. (and take me off both lists) the system works, but I unsubscribed you manually right now from the discuss list. Which other list shall I unsubscribe you from? Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of

Re: [tdf-discuss] Hear the Google pronunciation of LibreOffice - Just for fun

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-08 8:26 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Just put the Libre Offie (notice the space in between) in the large window and change the language to English (anglais) and you will get the right pronunciation in English. But there is no space in the official name 'LibreOffice'. Of course I can

Re: [tdf-discuss] Document Foundation - list archive - emails in clear

2010-10-08 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hi, Am 08.10.2010 um 10:13 schrieb Friedrich Strohmaier: I believe this should be prevented. I just found in docs that there is a SPAMMODE option: http://mhonarc.org/MHonArc/doc/resources/spammode.html

Re: [tdf-discuss] Document Foundation - list archive - emails in clear

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-08 8:38 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Honestly, I disagree. Hiding mail addresses really doesn't help that much, and to me, the disadvantages (like being unable to contact someone directly from the archives) are larger than the advantages you think it has. I'm happy to switch

Re: [tdf-discuss] Document Foundation - list archive - emails in clear

2010-10-08 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Florian, *, Florian Effenberger schrieb: Am 08.10.2010 um 10:13 schrieb Friedrich Strohmaier: I believe this should be prevented. I just found in docs that there a SPAMMODE option: http://mhonarc.org/MHonArc/doc/resources/spammode.html +1 Honestly, I disagree. Hiding mail addresses

Re: [tdf-discuss] Mailing list user preferences?

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-08 8:41 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: I'd really like the ability to set certain user prefs - like subject tags (I want to disable them), set my reply-to preference, etc... no, that's not possible at the moment. We use mlmmj for good reasons. Mailman has a lot of options and

Re: [tdf-discuss] Document Foundation - list archive - emails in clear

2010-10-08 Thread Gianluca Turconi
In data 08 ottobre 2010 alle ore 15:36:44, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com ha scritto: Security through obscurity doesn't work. If you have spam problems, use good anti-spam software. Well, indeed, spam should not be facilitated rather than managed via software after your address

Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe NOT working!!!

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-08 9:29 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: PLEASE sort this out. (and take me off both lists) Ian - the email you got was a confirmation that actually requires you to click the CONFIRMATION link in it - if you don't click the link, you won't be unsubscribed. -- Best regards, Charles

Re: [tdf-discuss] Mailing list user preferences?

2010-10-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Charles, Am 08.10.2010 um 15:55 schrieb Charles Marcus: Understood... and I'm not even sure MM2 has the ability to have per user subject tags. don't know either at the moment... it has a lot of user prefs, but don't know exactly which ones. I know there are lots of improvements for the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe NOT working!!!

2010-10-08 Thread usonaulo-pete
--- On Fri, 10/8/10, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe NOT working!!! To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Cc: Ian Whitfield whitfi...@federalsaints.net Date: Friday, October

Re: [tdf-discuss] Moderators needed

2010-10-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Am 07.10.2010 um 19:43 schrieb Nguyen Vu Hung: Let me moderate @qa, l10n@ and l10n-vi@ please. # l10n-vi@ does not exist yet, can you please create that for us? (Vietnamese team) qa und local lists don't exist yet. Will work on them soon, asking for moderators then again. :) Just added

Re: [tdf-discuss] Moderators needed

2010-10-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Am 06.10.2010 um 23:17 schrieb Jean Hollis Weber: I am happy to moderate the documentation list, which I just joined. I have list moderation experience and I will definitely be following that list. :-) thanks a lot, you're in! Florian -- Florian Effenberger

Re: [tdf-discuss] Mailing list user preferences?

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-08 10:01 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: I had short ones, then I was asked to have longer ones. The problem is that everyone has different preferences, and no matter what we decide, the others have to live with that. Tough task ;) Another thing I'd like to see - for things like

[tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?

2010-10-08 Thread El Cico
Hi all, Don't know if this is the right list to post to... anyway... If I go to help--About LibreOffice I see: LibreOffice 3.3.0 OOO330m7 (Build:9526) ooo-build 2010-09-24 Copyright © 2000, 2010 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Don't think it's correct, is it? Ciao cico

Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-08 10:27 AM, El Cico wrote: If I go to help--About LibreOffice I see: LibreOffice 3.3.0 OOO330m7 (Build:9526) ooo-build 2010-09-24 Copyright © 2000, 2010 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Don't think it's correct, is it? Its the very first beta being

Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?

2010-10-08 Thread Gianluca Turconi
Charles Marcus wrote: Its the very first beta being offered, it was inevitable some things would be missed... Unless - maybe legally the copyrights have to stay (hope not)? It has to stay. :) -- Tempesta e Passione sbarcano su Amazon.com:

[tdf-discuss] Proposal for a more updated and modern standard icon theme.

2010-10-08 Thread Olav Dahlum
Hi. I know a lot of you is emotionally attached to older icon themes as Tango, but isn't it about time we made some refreshing changes in the default theme? Like proposing a new theme altogether. But also taking into consideration that we'll need accessible ones conforming to accessibility

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread todd rme
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 4:05 AM, Scott Furry scott.wl.fu...@gmail.com wrote: - Package Maintainers (I like 'specialists' but let's use the term people recognize) can build and distribute both installs and updates to different OS users. We are respecting the OS and working on the OS in a way with

Re: [tdf-discuss] Proposal for a more updated and modern standard icon theme.

2010-10-08 Thread todd rme
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Olav Dahlum odah...@gmail.com wrote:  Hi. I know a lot of you is emotionally attached to older icon themes as Tango, but isn't it about time we made some refreshing changes in the default theme? Like proposing a new theme altogether. But also taking into

Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates

2010-10-08 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Charles Marcus wrote: 2. one use case that may occur more often than you think - those power users that install from source, thus totally bypassing their package management system. Hi Charles, users installing from source don't need no update management at all - they can just git pull

Re: [tdf-discuss] Document Foundation - list archive - emails in clear

2010-10-08 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Gianluca Turconi, *, Gianluca Turconi schrieb: [..] Therefore, I had to unsubscribe form all TDF lists, create a new address for these lists and then subscribe to them again. Woff... :( Too late! You missed the train. Your old (former good) mailadress is online - well prepared food for the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Proposal for a more updated and modern standard icon theme.

2010-10-08 Thread Olav Dahlum
On 08/10/10 17:29, todd rme wrote: On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Olav Dahlum odah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I know a lot of you is emotionally attached to older icon themes as Tango, but isn't it about time we made some refreshing changes in the default theme? Like proposing a new theme

Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?

2010-10-08 Thread jonathon
On 10/08/2010 02:37 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: Copyright © 2000, 2010 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Don't think it's correct, is it? Its the very first beta being offered, it was inevitable some things wo uld be missed... Unless - maybe legally the copyrights have to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Hear the Google pronunciation of LibreOffice - Just for fun

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-08 09:33, Charles Marcus a écrit : On 2010-10-08 8:26 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Just put the Libre Offie (notice the space in between) in the large window and change the language to English (anglais) and you will get the right pronunciation in English. But there is no space in the

RE : Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?

2010-10-08 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hey Jonathon, Welcome to this list. There is one thing which also needs to be understood and mentioned: the Document Foundation does not take the copyright of its contributors. So we should not be listed as copyright owners. Charles. Le 8 oct. 2010, 7:10 PM, jonathon jonathon.bl...@gmail.com a

Re: [tdf-discuss] Proposal for a more updated and modern standard icon theme.

2010-10-08 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Olav, just a short note concerning the icons - yes, icons are a very visible way of changing the look and the overall appearance of the office suite. I also hope that we will be possible to have some coordinated effort to improve them - e.g. why not partner with the Tango3 team? However,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?

2010-10-08 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
On 08/10/2010 18:09, jonathon wrote: On 10/08/2010 02:37 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: Copyright © 2000, 2010 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Don't think it's correct, is it? Its the very first beta being offered, it was inevitable some things wo uld be missed... Unless -

Re: RE : Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?

2010-10-08 Thread jonathon
On 10/08/2010 05:18 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: the Document Foundation does not take the copyright of its contributors . So we should not be listed as copyright owners. Document Foundation has a copyright in the selection of the code that is used for the specific version of the program. This

Re: [tdf-discuss] Proposal for a more updated and modern standard icon theme.

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-08 10:53 AM, Olav Dahlum wrote: I know a lot of you is emotionally attached to older icon themes as Tango, but isn't it about time we made some refreshing changes in the default theme? Like proposing a new theme altogether. But also taking into consideration that we'll need

Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?

2010-10-08 Thread Volker Merschmann
Hi, 2010/10/8 Peter Hillier-Brook p...@hbsys.plus.com: On 08/10/2010 18:09, jonathon wrote: On 10/08/2010 02:37 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: Copyright © 2000, 2010 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Don't think it's  correct, is it? Its the very first beta being offered, it

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread RGB ES
2010/10/8 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com: So just to simplify it for those who are like me and who do not realize t he process behind the opendesktop.org update system (I'll use KDE4.5.X as an example): *** please correct these if I am wrong *** If you want to update your wallpaper, you can

Re: [tdf-discuss] I like the name LibreOffice

2010-10-08 Thread goldfish
Hi Guys, If people are having trouble with pronouncing Libre then I propose we fondly call LibreOffice LO. What do you Guys think of LO? Best regards, Paul PS Read below to see what I mean: http://www.computerworld.com/comments/node/9188338#comment-665135 In my country (NL) the name

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread Scott Furry
As todd rme has suggested, there exists automated packaging tools. I had not run across that in my readings. I don't use openSUSE, but good to know. My original suggestions regarding a separate repository had been meant to avoid 'package purgatory' where the distributions would relegate LibO

Re: [tdf-discuss] Proposal for a more updated and modern standard icon theme.

2010-10-08 Thread Olav Dahlum
On 08/10/10 20:15, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Olav, just a short note concerning the icons - yes, icons are a very visible way of changing the look and the overall appearance of the office suite. I also hope that we will be possible to have some coordinated effort to improve them - e.g. why

Re: [tdf-discuss] Proposal for a more updated and modern standard icon theme.

2010-10-08 Thread Olav Dahlum
On 08/10/10 20:37, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2010-10-08 10:53 AM, Olav Dahlum wrote: I know a lot of you is emotionally attached to older icon themes as Tango, but isn't it about time we made some refreshing changes in the default theme? Like proposing a new theme altogether. But also taking

Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-08 11:35 AM, Thorsten Behrens wrote: users installing from source don't need no update management at all - they can just git pull rebuild. Especially on Linux, this gives you bleeding edge LibO everytime you like - e.g.: Well... different users have different skill levels, but

Re: [tdf-discuss] Proposal for a more updated and modern standard icon theme.

2010-10-08 Thread Olav Dahlum
On 08/10/10 17:29, todd rme wrote: On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Olav Dahlum odah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I know a lot of you is emotionally attached to older icon themes as Tango, but isn't it about time we made some refreshing changes in the default theme? Like proposing a new theme

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-08 15:07, Scott Furry a écrit : As todd rme has suggested, there exists automated packaging tools. I had not run across that in my readings. I don't use openSUSE, but good to know. My original suggestions regarding a separate repository had been meant to avoid 'package purgatory'

Re: [tdf-discuss] Proposal for a more updated and modern standard icon theme.

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-08 3:14 PM, Olav Dahlum wrote: On 08/10/10 20:37, Charles Marcus wrote: A good place to start might be with the custom icon pack developed by ed2 on the Issue Tracker for this open Issue (see the final version, the past attachment in the list):

Re: [tdf-discuss] I like the name LibreOffice

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-08 14:53, goldf...@aol.in a écrit : Hi Guys, If people are having trouble with pronouncing Libre then I propose we fondly call LibreOffice LO. What do you Guys think of LO? Best regards, Paul Most are using LibO for now. Marc Note: Please bottom post on the mailist. -- To

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread jonathon
On 10/08/2010 06:53 PM, RGB ES wrote: The kind of stuff you find on kde-look.org weights no more than some hundreds of KiB (maybe, a bit more of a MiB but usually a lot less) while a normal LibO install is near 170 MiB... Is the opendesktop.org type proposal for the entire program, or just

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread RGB ES
Thanks. I am a little confused. So are you saying that packaging LibO in such a way as to be able to use the opendesktop.org system is not possible? Everything is possible... but that does not means it is desirable. You always need to use the right tool for the job, and nothing beat a good

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread RGB ES
2010/10/8 jonathon jonathon.bl...@gmail.com: Is the opendesktop.org type proposal for the entire program, or just for the extensions, dictionaries, galleries, extensions, language packs, grammar checkers, and other addons? I think people here is talking about the upgrade process. On that case

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-08 15:59, RGB ES a écrit : Thanks. I am a little confused. So are you saying that packaging LibO in such a way as to be able to use the opendesktop.org system is not possible? Everything is possible... but that does not means it is desirable. You always need to use the right tool

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread RGB ES
2010/10/8 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com: Do you know what the reasons were for not using these? It would seem to m ake sense that you would want to free up dev work and try to unify an upgrade process for everyone. Because at the end of the day, they do not work. Just one word: dependencies. If

Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe NOT working!!!

2010-10-08 Thread Volker Heggemann
Hi Florian, same problem at my side. I couldn't get out of the digest list?! I don't know why? regards Volker Heggemann -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are

[tdf-discuss] Website suggestion...

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
At the bottom of every email is the list info stuff, including: List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ It is very common (I do it all the time) when clicking links like this that I'll delete the rightmost part in the Location bar, so I'd end up here:

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-08 16:47, RGB ES a écrit : 2010/10/8 Scott Furryscott.wl.fu...@gmail.com: And that's why I was asking about whether it was possible to have repositories on the documentfoundation.org servers. Users of Debian (and its derivatives) could put apt.documentfoundation.o rg into their

[tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?

2010-10-08 Thread Mounier Jacques
Hello everyone on this list, I want to congratulate you for the courage you have shown in creating this new project. It is possible to have some rumors about LibO roadmap? What are the criteria for development? Issue Tracker (Number of votes and/ or Age)? Comparison with the competitors

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread Scott Furry
On 08/10/10 03:06 PM, Marc Paré wrote: I had not heard of Go-OO ( http://go-oo.org ) before until this discussion thread. Visiting their page, it seems like they have the kind of distribution model that we could leverage. Are you talking of the Universal Linux on this page?

Re: [tdf-discuss] I like the name LibreOffice

2010-10-08 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 20:29 +0200, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Jean! Am Freitag, den 08.10.2010, 06:28 +1000 schrieb Jean Hollis Weber: It's okay with me! I wrote a blog post too (in addition to my note to the list), but it's nice to be quoted in someone else's blog. :-)

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread todd rme
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2010-10-08 16:47, RGB ES a écrit : 2010/10/8 Scott Furryscott.wl.fu...@gmail.com: And that's why I was asking about whether it was possible to have repositories on the documentfoundation.org servers. Users of Debian (and

Re: [tdf-discuss] Document Foundation - list archive - emails in clear

2010-10-08 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 14:38 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, Am 08.10.2010 um 10:13 schrieb Friedrich Strohmaier: I believe this should be prevented. I just found in docs that there is a SPAMMODE option: http://mhonarc.org/MHonArc/doc/resources/spammode.html +1

Re: [tdf-discuss] Moderators needed

2010-10-08 Thread Varun Mittal
Hi Florian, I am ready to continue to do the moderation for all the mailing lists of Libre Office just like I used to do for OO.o lists Regards Varun Mittal http://www.varunmittal.info Moderator Marketing Project Mailing Lists[all] www.OpenOffice.org Google

Re: [tdf-discuss] SOLVED: Unsubscribe link broken

2010-10-08 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Goran, all, Goran Rakic schrieb: [...] As this can confuse other people, and we should try to make unsubscribe for people as easy as possible to avoid angry emails, can we just drop some words to make it fit in a single line: To unsubscribe, e-mail to

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-08 Thread NoOp
On 10/06/2010 06:12 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, finally, this list is also available via GMANE: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss Florian Working? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread todd rme
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2010-10-08 17:22, todd rme a écrit : On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Marc Parém...@marcpare.com  wrote: Le 2010-10-08 16:47, RGB ES a écrit : 2010/10/8 Scott Furryscott.wl.fu...@gmail.com: And that's why I was asking

Re: [tdf-discuss] SOLVED: Unsubscribe link broken

2010-10-08 Thread Goran Rakic
У суб, 09. 10 2010. у 02:21 +0200, Bernhard Dippold пише: Please have a look at the footer of the mail. Thank you, it looks great. Keeping the users happy in the new decade :) Goran -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
It does for me? Am 09.10.2010 um 02:33 schrieb NoOp: Working? -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 Fax: +49 8341 99660889 Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca:

Re: [tdf-discuss] Website suggestion...

2010-10-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Am 08.10.2010 um 22:49 schrieb Charles Marcus: But I currently get a 404 error... this should be a page containing information for all of the lists ie, dupe the stuff about the lists on this page: thanks - have fixed that! Florian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-08 20:33, NoOp a écrit : On 10/06/2010 06:12 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, finally, this list is also available via GMANE: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss Florian Working? Works for me on Thunderbird as my newsreader. Marc -- To unsubscribe,

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Would you then have any idea if this would cause a lot of devoted dev tim e, part-time, full-time attention. Would LibO then have to have a dedicated dev in charge of this? Marc I doubt it would require a full-time developer, since changes would only need to be made when a new version of

Re: [tdf-discuss] QA Infrastructure

2010-10-08 Thread Caio Tiago Oliveira
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 4:51 AM, Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Caio Tiago Oliveira wrote: [snip] VLC TestTool is a great tool to assure the quality of the branches and releases. It helps avoiding regressions and makes the repetitive tasks for us. Hi Caio, all, yeah, I

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-08 Thread NoOp
On 10/08/2010 07:40 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-10-08 20:33, NoOp a écrit : On 10/06/2010 06:12 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, finally, this list is also available via GMANE: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss Florian Working? Works for me on

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-09 00:15, Marc Paré a écrit : Questions for Marc (and others on the list: 1. are you also subscribed to the list via the standard email discuss+subscr...@documentfoundation.org? Hi Gary, I was and just this minute un-subscribed. I like being subscribed as I like to guage the

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread todd rme
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Would you then have any idea if this would cause a lot of devoted dev t im e, part-time, full-time attention. Would LibO then have to have a dedicate d dev in charge of this? Marc I doubt it would require a full-time

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread todd rme
On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: But it is important to keep in mind the distributions' own release policies.  Many distributions do not allow non-security-related updates over the course of a single release cycle.  This allows them to thoroughly test a