[tdf-discuss] Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: x86_64 Windows build

2010-11-05 Thread thealmightyspace...@gmail.com
Forwarding, because my Desire has no idea what a reply-to address is :p -Damien Ellis (sent from my HTC Desire) - Reply message - From: thealmightyspace...@gmail.com thealmightyspace...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Nov 5, 2010 12:56 pm Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: x86_64 Windows build To: Ian

[tdf-discuss] Re: x86_64 Windows build

2010-11-05 Thread e-letter
LO is never going to overcome m$ products on their own platform(s). The biggest market potential by far is mobile devices for ODF to become the default format. The majority of people in the world are being introduced to technology via mobile devices; banking, money transfer, product

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: unable to reply quickly to mailing list posts

2010-11-05 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, e-letter wrote on 2010-11-05 08.37: I suggest that you have a look at the mailiing list using a web-mail interface and you see how poor is the functionality. A good mailing list manager must be functional on both mail clients and web-mail. well, the mailing list manager works well and

[tdf-discuss] Re: [tdf-discuss] Missing function

2010-11-05 Thread thealmightyspace...@gmail.com
I believe it is an actual quote - lipsum.com says that its part of a classic text from 45bc. They even have an English translation! -Damien Ellis (sent from my HTC Desire) - Reply message - From: Sebastian Spaeth sebast...@sspaeth.de Date: Fri, Nov 5, 2010 3:40 pm Subject:

[tdf-discuss] LO mobile phone version

2010-11-05 Thread e-letter
In consideration of the previous posts ('Re: x86_64 Windows build', http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg02649.html), what is the mechanism that a project can be proposed to develop LO mobile edition, get funding from Android or similar as suggested? -- Unsubscribe

Re: [tdf-discuss] LO mobile phone version

2010-11-05 Thread Ian
On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 09:22 +, e-letter wrote: In consideration of the previous posts ('Re: x86_64 Windows build', http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg02649.html), what is the mechanism that a project can be proposed to develop LO mobile edition, get funding from

[tdf-discuss] Re: [tdf-discuss] priorising feature-requests [was: LO mobile phone version]

2010-11-05 Thread Dr. Bernhard Dippold
Hi Ian, * Ian Lynch wrote: [...] Establish a simple Forum called proposals. I'd prefer a sortable list at the wiki / website with columns for name, date and proposal (up to 100 char), link to description, bug entry (if already filed), number of votes, necessary resources and proirity. The

Re: [tdf-discuss] Copyright Assignments the Document Foundation

2010-11-05 Thread Gianluca Turconi
Il 04/11/2010 16.56, Italo Vignoli ha scritto: The community cannot issue formal certifications about software, and this is where the OOo project has missed the point. I know it. Nevertheless, a foundation isn't needed to start a certification program. Any vendor may start it, with more or

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: priorising feature-requests was: LO mobile phone version

2010-11-05 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 13:10:42 +, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote: So what happens next? Should the suggestion for LO mobile version remain in the mailing list archive until the proposals structure is created? Is any member of the decision-making entity able to say now whether this proposal

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: x86_64 Windows build

2010-11-05 Thread Olivier Hallot
Em 04-11-2010 17:31, e-letter escreveu: In terms of priorities, making LO the default for mobile (e.g. android) is more important than windoze. Wrong as of today. Windows counts of more than 95% of LO/OOo use. See download stats in OOo portal. Maybe in some future for mobiles. Much has

Re: [tdf-discuss] Copyright Assignments the Document Foundation

2010-11-05 Thread Gianluca Turconi
Il 05/11/2010 13.24, Ian ha scritto: But if there is a desire for an independent LO foundation it also provides an opportunity to sustain it. A desire is different from a need, in a decentralized development system, but I got your point, thanks, Ian. You explained it very well, indeed. :)

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: x86_64 Windows build

2010-11-05 Thread Michel Gagnon
Le 2010-11-05 05:10, Ian a écrit : On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 07:52 +, e-letter wrote: LO is never going to overcome m$ products on their own platform(s). Agreed, by the time there is any chance of this the world will have moved to a different platform. In one way it already has since ARM based

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: x86_64 Windows build

2010-11-05 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-11-05 10:59 AM, Michel Gagnon wrote: As for becoming useful on the phone, I think the cell-phone platform limits a lot the editing functions available. One possibility would be to have a no-frills word processor that would remember all image and style information, yet allow the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: x86_64 Windows build

2010-11-05 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.comwrote: On 2010-11-05 10:59 AM, Michel Gagnon wrote: As for becoming useful on the phone, I think the cell-phone platform limits a lot the editing functions available. One possibility would be to have a no-frills word

Re: [tdf-discuss] java / phone strategy ..

2010-11-05 Thread Benjamin Horst
On Nov 3, 2010, at 12:56 PM, Ian wrote: On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 11:34 -0500, T. J. Brumfield wrote: The cheapest iPad is $500, and comparable tablets are priced along the same lines. There are cheap tablets more in the $99-$150 range, but they are underpowered compared to the iPad and Galaxy

Re: [tdf-discuss] Copyright Assignments the Document Foundation

2010-11-05 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 05/11/10 11.57, Gianluca Turconi wrote: And, by saying the truth, why a TDF certification program should be better than a hypothetical IBM LIbO certified professional label, in a wider Community? The problem is not the quality of the certification program. Vendors have their own

Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws incoming!

2010-11-05 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 16:55:35 +0100, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Here's the result of our discussions with respect to the Community bylaws so far. Can we add some blurb in the long run on what the benefits/rights of members are? :-). Such as voting for a board of directors etc. Sebastian --

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: x86_64 Windows build

2010-11-05 Thread Peter Rodwell
Quoting Simos Xenitellis: Per mailing list etiquette, it's better to start a new thread to discuss mobile LibO. This thread is about what needs to be done to get native Win64 LibO, and how to find developers to join the effort. It has beceom a thread on mobile LibO by default. We've been told

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: x86_64 Windows build

2010-11-05 Thread Peter Rodwell
Quoting Simos Xenitellis: Per mailing list etiquette, it's better to start a new thread to discuss mobile LibO. This thread is about what needs to be done to get native Win64 LibO, and how to find developers to join the effort. It has evolved into a thread on mobile LO by default. We've been

Re: [tdf-discuss] New UI - OOo compatability - What we are about?

2010-11-05 Thread Benjamin Horst
Drew, On Nov 3, 2010, at 8:50 AM, drew wrote: This email is prompted from reading a couple of the discussions going on, or just recently having gone on. This question of a new UI for LibreOffice for instance, is a good one to move into what I wanted to touch on. I believe the question

LibO Idea Handling (was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [tdf-discuss] priorising feature-requests [was: LO mobile phone version])

2010-11-05 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Ian, all! Before I start - I cross-post this mail to both disc...@tdf and webs...@libo, because I think it could be helpful to collect some requirements concerning the future web infrastructure. For answers, please use the original thread at disc...@tdf. Thanks! The issue: There has been a

Re: [tdf-discuss] java / phone strategy ..

2010-11-05 Thread jonathon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/05/2010 03:35 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote: It doesn't even need to be built on the existing LibO code-it could be built using LibO's ODF libraries, though, for perfect file compatibility. Users won't care what the underlying code is; as long as

[tdf-discuss] New User Question

2010-11-05 Thread Terri Reichert
Hello! I've been lurking for a couple of weeks and am a new user to open office. I would classify myself as just an average everyday sort of user. I have joined several of the mailing lists and read all of them. Often times I can follow along and learn stuff, but often times everything is

Re: [tdf-discuss] New User Question

2010-11-05 Thread Robert Boehm
Hi Terri. This is a time of transition. LibreOffice will be the WAY TO GO from here on outbut at THIS TIME, I would install OpenOffice 3.2.1, get familiar with it.and USE it. It's a great piece of software. The next release3.3.0 is imminent. If OpenOffice 3.3.0 comes out

Re: [tdf-discuss] New User Question

2010-11-05 Thread Andy Brown
On Fri Nov 05 2010 18:29:41 GMT-0700 (PDT) Terri Reichert wrote: Hello! I've been lurking for a couple of weeks and am a new user to open office. I would classify myself as just an average everyday sort of user. I have joined several of the mailing lists and read all of them. Often times I

Re: [tdf-discuss] New User Question

2010-11-05 Thread Robert Boehm
On 11/05/2010 08:47 PM, Andy Brown wrote: On Fri Nov 05 2010 18:29:41 GMT-0700 (PDT) Terri Reichert wrote: Hello! I've been lurking for a couple of weeks and am a new user to open office. I would classify myself as just an average everyday sort of user. I have joined several of the mailing

Re: [tdf-discuss] New UI - OOo compatability - What we are about?

2010-11-05 Thread jonathon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/03/2010 12:50 PM, drew wrote: How should we handle a situation such as this, where a group of active individuals, members of the larger group, decide to pursue a specialized derivative of the main application - would be shun them?

[tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice UI should be tweaked, not reinvented

2010-11-05 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-05 17:15, M Robinson a écrit : The first two toolbars should be a Libre-polished 'classic' toolbar and a 'ribbon' clone. The eye candy should be left and right arrows on either side of the toolbar that causes the toolbar to slide in either direction. Users can organize their

[tdf-discuss] Re: LibO Idea Handling

2010-11-05 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-05 19:10, todd rme a écrit : From what I can see, the Ubuntu system is pretty similar in its capabilities to the KDE Forum system, although the KDE system seems to focus on idea while the Ubuntu (or ideatorrent, which it is based on) seems to be focused on problems and solutions.