Re: [steering-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] official source code repository for CD distribution[was: DVD and Jewel case design]

2011-01-11 Thread Michael Meeks
. For DVD with enough space on the disc it is easier to include the sources IMHO. Completely agreed. HTH, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h

[tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread Michael Wheatland
drawing on resources that could be used for development of LibreOffice. What do others think? Is the forum support option important for trust building and familiarity? What system would we use? Thanks, Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org

Re: [tdf-discuss] Forums bi-directionally cooperating with extant mailing lists?

2011-01-10 Thread Michael Wheatland
of configuration. It also allows messages across other communication media such as XMPP, SMS or social networks to be replied to, but we haven't got that far yet. :) If you wanted more information or have ideas about what functionality you would like to see please feel free to ask. Michael Wheatland

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Forum]How will the forum be organized?

2011-01-10 Thread Michael Wheatland
, this is not the case, I have my hands full at the moment, someone else would have to pick this up, but I would support the creation of a dedicated forum system fully. Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http

[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Queensland floods not near me

2011-01-10 Thread Michael Wheatland
this tragedy. http://www.salvationarmy.org.au/ I thank all those who have and will donate, as well as everyone who sends their thoughts and prayers to those in crisis at this time in Gladstone and Rockhampton. Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org

Re: [tdf-discuss] Addons

2011-01-04 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote: Michael Wheatland wrote (04-01-11 02:59) If everyone was as clear and concise as you there would be no confusion about any issues. No, to me this is an obvious example of someone apparently unable to understand, Please do

Re: [tdf-discuss] Addons

2011-01-03 Thread Michael Wheatland
/templates If you have any suggestions about the system or the site overall, the best place is probably the website mailing list. Thanks, Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All

Re: [tdf-discuss] docx export

2011-01-03 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:33 PM, yahoo-pier_andreit pier_andr...@yahoo.it wrote: Il 01/01/2011 20:29, Wolf Halton ha scritto: That looks like a good message. A direct save this as a .doc now button inside the dialog might be helpful for users as well. Yes it is a good message but I still

Re: [tdf-discuss] Addons (was: Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format)

2011-01-03 Thread Michael Wheatland
On 03/01/2011 8:46 PM, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hello everyone, Le Mon, 03 Jan 2011 10:58:18 -, Zaphod Feeblejocks zapho...@gmail.com a écrit : On 3 Jan 2011 at 17:29, Michael Wheatland wrote: Could addons be clearly signposted on the main

Re: [tdf-discuss] Addons (was: Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format)

2011-01-03 Thread Michael Wheatland
to write libreoffice.org not drupal.org a little bit of misinformation, Michael, is perhaps your enthusiasm leading to understand things the way you would like them to be :-). At this stage, I don't believe we have any clear plans to move to Drupal; there seems indeed to have been some early

Re: [tdf-discuss] Addons (was: Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format)

2011-01-03 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hello Michael, Le Tue, 4 Jan 2011 01:26:09 +0930, Michael Wheatland mich...@wheatland.com.au a écrit : On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org

Re: [tdf-discuss] Just make the damn thing work! (was Re: Dictionary Syncing)

2011-01-01 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 3:28 AM, Zaphod Feeblejocks zapho...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Charles, So why is there so much duplication of effort in the campaign against MS? I strongly disagree with your assertion that we are or should be engaging in any kind of 'campaign against Microsoft', or even

Re: [tdf-discuss] Dictionary Syncing

2010-12-31 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:26 PM, pierre choffardet pierre.choffar...@free.fr wrote: Le 31/12/2010 11:51, James Clemence a écrit : A major feature I find irritating in word processors is the lack of dictionary syncing between multiple machines. I have a laptop, desktop, and occasional use of

Re: [tdf-discuss] Google changes and Torrents

2010-12-27 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Nguyen Vu Hung vuhung16p...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Mark Preston m...@mpreston.demon.co.uk wrote: Is it likely that the - I suppose I should say suggested - changes to Google search terms, specifically the removal of the word torrent

Re: [tdf-discuss] Google changes and Torrents

2010-12-24 Thread Michael Wheatland
? Specifically the Libre Office obviously. I am a bit confused by this? Has there been suggestion of Google filtering legitimate and legal torrent files? Can you provide a reference. Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http

Re: [tdf-discuss] [website][drupal] The Drupal website development update - December 2010

2010-12-21 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 1:35 AM, Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.com wrote: I liked the proposed site theme. Very coupled and readable. Since I do a lot of my web browsing on a smart phone now, I am signed up on the website mailing list and looking forward to testing how it works on a 3.5 screen.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Name Change for LibreOffice Applications

2010-12-20 Thread Michael Wheatland
On 20/12/2010 7:03 PM, Samuel Mehrbrodt s.mehrbr...@googlemail.com wrote: I think it's good to change the names of the Applications so that they describe what each application does. LibreOffice is the brand which will be known and names of the applications should help to find the application

Re: [tdf-discuss] [website][drupal] The Drupal website development update - December 2010

2010-12-20 Thread Michael Wheatland
longer term improvements of LibreOffice. Thanks for the interest and any more feedback is welcomed. Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly

[tdf-discuss] [website][drupal] The Drupal website development update - December 2010

2010-12-18 Thread Michael Wheatland
involved with the development so far. There is still a lot of development to go for the resulting community site ,I encourage you to get more involved (time permitting) now, or after LibreOffice 3.3 has been released into the wild. Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h

Re: [steering-discuss] Updated draft of the Community Bylaws

2010-12-08 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi David, On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 20:33 +0800, David Nelson wrote: I must admit that I don't really agree with you, Michael. There is always need for organization and coordination in any human enterprise. Sure - we are all agreed on this :-) the question is whether that requires formal

Re: [tdf-discuss] deb installer - have to manually modify link

2010-12-06 Thread Michael Wheatland
thing that could happen is that we try to over-develop the temporary site just to have the final Drupal site implemented soon after we launch this site. Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists

Re: [tdf-discuss] Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-24 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Rene Engelhard rene.engelh...@documentfoundation.org wrote: And their quality is bad. Mentioning Ubuntu as an example here disqualifies you already. In Your Humble Opinion. Again please avoid attacks on individuals or groups of users. This risks alienating a

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: A proposal for effective, volunteer-friendly user support in LibreOffice

2010-11-24 Thread Michael Wheatland
, as well as consistency across languages which is the keystone of the Drupal system. Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: A proposal for effective, volunteer-friendly user support in LibreOffice

2010-11-24 Thread Michael Wheatland
it and it will be added easily, but we will try to anticipate all possible use cases. The input and output of the system is fully configurable. You can even get your subscriptions sent to you in Twitter, Facebook or Jabber (Google Chat) messages if you want. Plug and play really. Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe

Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws

2010-11-23 Thread Michael Meeks
:-) ATB, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: A proposal for effective, volunteer-friendly user support in LibreOffice

2010-11-23 Thread Michael Wheatland
Ubuntu will be doing half the work for us as they will also be shipping LibreOffice to all Ubuntu users. I believe that a number of other distributions are planning the same. Now we just need to convince people to upgrade their OS and shipping the CDs is taken care of ;) -- Unsubscribe

Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws

2010-11-22 Thread Michael Meeks
vote, once per year to elect everyone - and not worry about the continuity issues: they tend to fix themselves. The electorate tends to value such things as experience in the candidate's statements. HTH, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant

Re: [tdf-discuss] Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-22 Thread Michael Wheatland
such attitudes within the community. Thanks again, Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***

Re: [tdf-discuss] Take over of Novell

2010-11-22 Thread Michael Meeks
or good is unclear. Either way - development-wise, LibreOffice is doing really extremely well with non-Novell developers right now; so whatever happens should not affect our viability as a project. I hope that helps, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo

Re: [tdf-discuss] Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-22 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:31:58PM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 02:28:54PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: open to learning a *few* new things, it is extremely user friendly. There is, however, a

Re: [tdf-discuss] [UI] Possible roadmap

2010-11-20 Thread Michael Wheatland
styles easily would be fantastic. This is something that I will be exploring as soon as the Drupal community site is up in a few months. Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html

Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws

2010-11-19 Thread Michael Meeks
direction: mostly by deciding what new modules to include into GNOME. LibreOffice is rather different - and I think would benefit from having a central group of component maintainers and companies to co-ordinate development. I suppose this is a question specifically for Michael, but not exclusively so

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice should have own LibreOfficeFont

2010-11-19 Thread Michael Wheatland
Just because FlashCounter found a dumb way to collect statistics doesn't mean you have to do something dumber. Dave. LOL but still +1 Beautiful timeless fonts are difficult and to create, you can't just throw them together like that font building website suggests. -- Unsubscribe

Re: [tdf-discuss] Wiki heading styles need numbering

2010-11-17 Thread Michael Wheatland
as a display only feature without impacting the links? Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list

Re: [tdf-discuss] Wiki heading styles need numbering

2010-11-17 Thread Michael Wheatland
as a display only feature without impacting the links? Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list

Re: [tdf-discuss] document foundation wiki issues ...

2010-11-16 Thread Michael Wheatland
at the libreoffice.org Drupal development site, temporarily located at www.libreofficeaustralia.org during development before replacing Silverstripe in 4-6 months. I invite you to get involved. Michael Wheatland LibreOffice Drupal Website Development Team. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h

[tdf-discuss] Website and online communication

2010-11-16 Thread Michael Wheatland
within 6 months, ALL of this functionality will be available in one place, our community. Thanks all, Michael Wheatland LibreOffice Drupal Website Development Team One User wrote: I don't know if and how easy this would be in drupal. So far I have coded a very simple webform in django

Re: Using Tango (was: Re: [tdf-discuss] New Icon theme set)

2010-11-16 Thread Michael Meeks
, and hicontrast makes lots of sense - particularly on platforms (like Linux) where we can auto-select one that best matches the current desktop theme. HTH, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email

Re: [tdf-discuss] Suggestion to expand user base: enable screenplay formatting with LibreOffice

2010-11-15 Thread Michael Meeks
do this - nevertheless the mroe templates we have, the more people we have interested in fixing our template browse / selection UI issues I hope ;-) HTH, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email

Re: [tdf-discuss] How To Contribute

2010-11-13 Thread Michael Meeks
Hacks page. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Easy_Hacks Or perhaps the Develop tab on the LibreOffice web page: http://www.documentfoundation.org/develop/ And follow the steps :-) look forward to your patches. ATB, Michael. -- michael.me

Re: [steering-discuss] FOSDEM DevRoom Call for Papers

2010-11-12 Thread Michael Meeks
:-) Anyhow - thanks muchly for the nice, punchy draft :-) and leading this. ATB, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives

Re: [tdf-discuss] Updates overwriting User settings

2010-11-12 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi there, On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 08:43 +0930, Michael Wheatland wrote: I think we all agree that this should happen automatically. Updating is pretty basic functionality in any software. (Even if apple gets it wrong) Right :-) it should 'just work' Maybe we can consider creating

Re: [tdf-discuss] FreeDesktop Bugzilla

2010-11-12 Thread Michael Meeks
from help-about): @ Charles, do you still have the few notes we took during/after the talk? Mentally, I think I stored most of the issues for future work. HTH, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- Unsubscribe

Re: [tdf-discuss] FreeDesktop Bugzilla

2010-11-12 Thread Michael Meeks
will make the race!! :o)) If we can get people excited and contributing, make QA a fun job instead of a duplicate triaging nightmare etc. we'll do well :-) thanks for your support. ATB, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot

Re: [steering-discuss] Fwd: Re: LibO Drupal site

2010-11-11 Thread Michael Meeks
, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/steering-discuss/ All messages you send

Re: [tdf-discuss] FreeDesktop Bugzilla

2010-11-11 Thread Michael Meeks
problems, and needless work AFAICS. HTH, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http

Re: [tdf-discuss] Clear separation between frontend and backend?

2010-11-06 Thread Michael Meeks
for the next year or so makes a lot of sense I believe. ATB, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news

Re: [tdf-discuss] Accessibility (was Java dependency)

2010-11-03 Thread Michael Meeks
at least a bit about it - the monochrome outline is quite good I imagine. Anyhow - a really good write-up; if you want to get involved hacking on this, it'd be much appreciated. ATB, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot

Re: [tdf-discuss] Pretty up your name in the wiki stats

2010-11-03 Thread Michael Meeks
to encourage everyone to create some pretty home page in the wiki ;-) [ perhaps a better use of time too ] ATB, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Java dependency

2010-11-03 Thread Michael Meeks
-platform-ness makes this rather nice). But the real question is: who is eager to hack on --disable-java for the build ? :-) it should just be a matter of typing, and would help us attract new developers that don't have that fragile pre-requisite around. HTH, Michael

Re: [tdf-discuss] Copyright Assignments the Document Foundation

2010-11-03 Thread Michael Meeks
(who are not short of lawyers) who already ship eg. Mozilla, SAMBA and Linux without any of these apparently indispensible assignments ;-) HTH, Michael. [1] - eclectically owned projects are, by far, the vast majority of Free Software

Re: [tdf-discuss] [FAQ] new entries (here: CA/JCA/SCA)

2010-11-03 Thread Michael Meeks
have some benefits; I wrote a huge screed on the subject here: http://people.gnome.org/~michael/blog/copyright-assignment.html 1) Oracle will never be able to sue LibreOffice for patent violations, and this is true thanks to a copyright agreement. OOo 1.x-2.x was distributed under LGPL

[tdf-discuss] java / phone strategy ..

2010-11-03 Thread Michael Meeks
to actually hack on doing it :-) are you volunteering ? if so, we can certainly help out with code pointers, review, encouragement, community building etc. All the best :-) Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- Unsubscribe

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Compiling in Windows

2010-11-01 Thread Michael Meeks
Time Optimisation work, we may even be able to get performance and size to the same region as the Microsoft compilers do (which have traditionally produced smaller, faster binaries). HTH, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot

Re: [tdf-discuss] Copyright Assignments the Document Foundation

2010-11-01 Thread Michael Meeks
reasonable offer, made in good faith, and that the (C) assignment issue is really a distraction; and worse a dangerous one about concentrating control, whose merit (as you suggest) is around non-transparent discussion and negotiation. HTH, Michael. -- michael.me

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