Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-04 Thread Peter Rodwell
Quoting Marc Paré: So, for everyone, do you think that we could submit this as a feature request and if it were adopted, would it have a negative impact on the new or casual user's use of the search function? I think it certainly should be a permanent feature. I don't think new or casual

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-04 Thread Steven Shelton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/2/2010 2:28 PM, Marc Paré wrote: I'm reluctant to download the beta since the Web site says it will overwrite my existing Oo and I don't have an available spare machine at the moment. I'll see if I can free up one and try it. I am not

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-04 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 08:14:50 -0400, Steven Shelton wrote: However, LibO crashes constantly on my Windows XP box. I tried to use it for a bit to test it, and the crashes were so frequent it was entirely unusable. Frames with captions by any chance? In that case you will like beta3. Sebastian

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-04 Thread Peter Rodwell
Quoting Steven Shelton: This is also a pretty much standard extension for all of my installs, but, to be honest, I don't know if average users would like it or hate it. For one, it seems to take forever to come up with you call for it with a hot key. I've noticed a slight delay ( 1 second)

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-04 Thread Peter Rodwell
Quoting Steven Shelton: I'm reluctant to download the beta since the Web site says it will overwrite my existing Oo and I don't have an available spare machine at the moment. I'll see if I can free up one and try it. I am not sure if this is still the case. Maybe someone else can comment on

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-04 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 08:01:47 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: +10 - Find/Replace was a frustrating exercise for me until I found this extension many months ago. It absolutely should *replace* the current implementation. 1) Could someone please identify the source? It seems LGPG license but when

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-04 Thread RGB ES
As far as I can see, it is all on OOo macro language: if you install the extension and look at Tools - Macro - Organize macros - LibreOffice basic you will find all about it. 2010/11/4 Sebastian Spaeth sebast...@sspaeth.de: On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 08:01:47 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: +10 -

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-04 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 13:32:54 +0100, Peter Rodwell pe...@intorg.org wrote: Then the Web site needs updating. It still says: Be advised that the current beta might replace your OpenOffice.org installation. Not anymore, thanks for the heads up. Sebastian -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to

[tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-04 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-04 03:26, Marc Paré a écrit : Hi everyone: I have submitted it as a feature request. You can add to this if you want. The more we chatter about this the more they will look into it. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31386 Cheers Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions:

[tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-04 Thread NoOp
On 11/02/2010 08:28 AM, T. J. Brumfield wrote: There were several old, often commented on, and often requested bug fixes and features that didn't receive much attention or weren't resolved with OOo over the years. For those who may not be aware of the reasons for the shift/fork, or for

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-03 Thread Ernst W. Winter
On Tue, 02 Nov 2010, Peter Rodwell wrote: I answered a posting from Ernst W. Winter: Yes sounds good. How did the city of Munich change 14,000 PC to OOo? with a somewhat cursory I don't know but the question piqued my interest. A few minutes' Googling came up with the answer: It

[tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-03 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-03 17:11, Peter Rodwell a écrit : Quoting Graham Lauder: There is an extension which is pretty much a compulsory install on any OOo instance l use and it does what you ask here. http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/search/node/altsearch Thanks! It does indeed do what I

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-03 Thread Graham Lauder
On Thursday 04 Nov 2010 10:33:43 Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-11-03 17:11, Peter Rodwell a écrit : Quoting Graham Lauder: There is an extension which is pretty much a compulsory install on any OOo instance l use and it does what you ask here.

[tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-02 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-02 11:48, Peter Rodwell a écrit : I have only today joined this discussion so I don't know whether this has already been discussed or not. There are two reasons why I have just paid money to upgrade to Office 2010 instead of switching to OO/LO: 1. Complete file compatibility. I

[tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-02 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-02 11:53, Robert Parker a écrit : On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Peter Rodwellpe...@intorg.org wrote: I have only today joined this discussion so I don't know whether this has already been discussed or not. There are two reasons why I have just paid money to upgrade to Office

[tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-02 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-02 11:48, Peter Rodwell a écrit : I have only today joined this discussion so I don't know whether this has already been discussed or not. There are two reasons why I have just paid money to upgrade to Office 2010 instead of switching to OO/LO: 1. Complete file compatibility. I

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-02 Thread Peter Rodwell
Hi Marc: As in all public mailists, just ignore the negative comments. Robert does not speak for people who are interested in fixing problems or concerns of users. Thanks! I've been around mail lists long enough to recognise the type. Just ignore him. Which is exactly what I plan to do.

[tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-02 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-02 12:05, Frank Esposito a écrit : The point of the MSO-to-ODF and ODF-to-MSO converters not working 100% and being a deal-breaker has been raised several times already. But I am not sure as to what is being done as far as development. I think the devs are just trying to clean up the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-02 Thread Peter Rodwell
Hi Marc: We would need an example of an incompatible file for us to see and examine. Could you provide us with an example? I can't supply any of the files since they are the property of my clients and I'm bound by some very strict non-disclosure agreements (they have the right to tear my

[tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-02 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-02 12:42, Cor Nouws a écrit : 2. Search and replace. I work with large documents, often 400+ pages. As I'm translating, I usually come across a word or phrase that I know will be repeated throughout the document so I search and replace it to avoid having to type it continuously. I do

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-02 Thread Ernst W. Winter
On Tue, 02 Nov 2010, Marc Par wrote: [snip shortened stuff] Good points Frank and we also have to consider that Italo, our marketing guru, now says that in some European countries, OOo/LigO commands 20% market share and that ODF adoption is on the rise and is quite established. Well I

[tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-02 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-02 14:17, Peter Rodwell a écrit : Hi Marc: We would need an example of an incompatible file for us to see and examine. Could you provide us with an example? I can't supply any of the files since they are the property of my clients and I'm bound by some very strict non-disclosure

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-02 Thread Peter Rodwell
Quoting Marc Paré: And yes, MSO format conversions are not 100% and where there are power users like Peter, it may be difficult to rationalize using LibO when his customers are unwilling to adopt an ODF format which would simply work. There is always the option for Peter to propose a change

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-02 Thread Frank Esposito
mostly because they can't afford (financially and timewise) the risk of having to re-train thousands of users with the productivity drop that this would involve I have to say, if that was the case, then no one would have upped to 2007/2010. The last company I worked for who upgraded spent

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-02 Thread Ernst W. Winter
On Tue, 02 Nov 2010, Peter Rodwell wrote: Quoting Marc Paré: And yes, MSO format conversions are not 100% and where there are power users like Peter, it may be difficult to rationalize using LibO when his customers are unwilling to adopt an ODF format which would simply work. There is

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-02 Thread Peter Rodwell
Quoting Frank Esposito: mostly because they can't afford (financially and timewise) the risk of having to re-train thousands of users with the productivity drop that this would involve I have to say, if that was the case, then no one would have upped to 2007/2010. The last company I worked

[tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-02 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-11-02 14:53, Peter Rodwell a écrit : Quoting Marc Paré: And yes, MSO format conversions are not 100% and where there are power users like Peter, it may be difficult to rationalize using LibO when his customers are unwilling to adopt an ODF format which would simply work. There is

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-02 Thread Peter Rodwell
Quoting Ernst W. Winter: Yes sounds good. How did the city of Munich change 14,000 PC to OOo? Since I'm in Spain and not in Munich, I have no idea. I do think where there is a willing there will be a way. If Govermnet Authorities can change, why can't a corporation change. Public

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-02 Thread T. J. Brumfield
The discussion of why companies should or can't migrate away from MS Office or proprietary document formats is a bit off-topic. I'm also assuming most of us have had this discussion at length before as well. I'm assuming if you're on this list that you are in favor of open software and open

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-02 Thread Peter Rodwell
Quoting Marc Paré: I understand that perfectly well. I am a teacher and school boards are comparable to major corporations, I sit on an IT committee (software acquisition) and we talk often about migration. But, the question of IT support for OS and software is a large issue. They are more

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-02 Thread Peter Rodwell
I answered a posting from Ernst W. Winter: Yes sounds good. How did the city of Munich change 14,000 PC to OOo? with a somewhat cursory I don't know but the question piqued my interest. A few minutes' Googling came up with the answer: It didn't. Reports (e.g., at