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Hello,
On 17/10/2010 04:15, James wrote:
Is LibO the official short name for LibreOffice?
I hate it, it sounds like a system library.
LO is better.
By reading the lists of discussion, I came to the opinion that this was
the abbreviation that the
Fridrich Strba wrote:
I changed the occurences of LO in the build to LibO.
Please, could you come to an agreement?
I think it's kind of official, see
http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/msg00430.html
Regards,
Andrea.
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On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 23:50:27 PM -0500, Alexandro Colorado
(j...@openoffice.org) wrote:
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:27 AM, M. Fioretti mfiore...@nexaima.net wrote:
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 10:33:00 AM -0500, Eduardo Moreno (
emor...@tokonhu.com) wrote:
When will we see the integration of
Hi Jean,
Jean Weber wrote (17-10-10 02:28)
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010, AGcomputing.acco...@googlemail.com wrote:
(iii) when opening a previously saved document, it would be nice if the
cursor went automatically to the last saved point of the document rather
than what seems to happen now which is to
You people are wasting your time worrying or discussing about videos like
this. There's not much debate whether or not the video is loaded with crap.
Time discussing this video is better used developing some videos explaining
usage of LibO, explaining whose fault is it that other office suites
In data 17 ottobre 2010 alle ore 11:53:29, Jean Hollis Weber
jeanwe...@gmail.com ha scritto:
I don't see anything for where to have the document open: first page, or
where last edited. I see Load user-specific settings with the document
but not where to select that particular setting.
It's
We're on slashdot. I mention this for info purposes only, not suggesting
anyone should waste their time responding to the inevitable stupid
comments. --Jean
http://goo.gl/qmIk
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On 16/10/10 22:42, Scott Furry wrote:
On 16/10/10 01:30 PM, AG wrote:
On 16/10/10 19:50, Scott Furry wrote:
On 16/10/10 12:01 PM, AG wrote:
(ii) there is still no Quickstarter available - nothing under
Tools/ Options/ General/ Memory to even enable this. Not critical,
but very nice to
In data 17 ottobre 2010 alle ore 12:07:04, Jean Hollis Weber
jeanwe...@gmail.com ha scritto:
We're on slashdot. I mention this for info purposes only, not suggesting
anyone should waste their time responding to the inevitable stupid
comments. --Jean
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Indeed, the content of
On 17/10/10 11:06, Gianluca Turconi wrote:
In data 17 ottobre 2010 alle ore 11:53:29, Jean Hollis Weber
jeanwe...@gmail.com ha scritto:
I don't see anything for where to have the document open: first page, or
where last edited. I see Load user-specific settings with the document
but not where
On Sun, 2010-10-17 at 11:34 +0100, AG wrote:
On 17/10/10 11:06, Gianluca Turconi wrote:
In data 17 ottobre 2010 alle ore 11:53:29, Jean Hollis Weber
jeanwe...@gmail.com ha scritto:
I don't see anything for where to have the document open: first page, or
where last edited. I see Load
On 17/10/10 12:05, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
On Sun, 2010-10-17 at 11:52 +0100, AG wrote:
On 17/10/10 11:40, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
On Sun, 2010-10-17 at 12:06 +0200, Gianluca Turconi wrote:
In data 17 ottobre 2010 alle ore 11:53:29, Jean Hollis Weber
jeanwe...@gmail.com
Le 2010-10-16 22:35, Jon Hamkins a écrit :
On 10/16/2010 12:33 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
Le 2010-10-16 15:29, j.martin.pedersen a écrit :
I will subscribe and attempt to find time to contribute.
-martin
Thanks, you are exactly the academic type of person I would be
interested in having
Ian wrote:
On Sun, 2010-10-17 at 08:08 -0400, Marc Paré wrote:
how could a corporation come in and take over a community and
take control of their budget?
Because there was no legal entity - that is why a Foundation was needed
from the outset.
Well, OpenOffice.org donations go to Team
Marc Paré wrote:
Just out of curiosity, re: budget money: Was the budget funds collected
and donated to the community?
Exactly: donations.
If so, how could a corporation come in and take over a community and
take control of their budget?
I have been resigned on Tuesday, and I have asked
Dear folks,
Has anyone created LibreOfficePortable like the version of OpenOffice Portable:
http://portableapps.com/apps/office/openoffice_portable
There has been a request, someone else has inquired here:
http://portableapps.com/node/25074
I have loaded a beta version of LibreOffice on
Le 2010-10-16 23:53, Andy Brown a écrit :
On Sat Oct 16 2010 20:35:41 GMT-0700 (PDT) Marc Paré wrote:
Thanks for the note. Yes, it does sound that different tools are
needed depending on the field of study. There should almost be a
mailist dedicated to LibO use for academia where we could
Le 2010-10-17 08:47, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :
Ian wrote:
On Sun, 2010-10-17 at 08:08 -0400, Marc Paré wrote:
how could a corporation come in and take over a community and
take control of their budget?
Because there was no legal entity - that is why a Foundation was needed
from the outset.
No need for further explanations.
Good one :)
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Hi folks,
maybe this is a very stupid question or just a very naive one, but I
assure you that it is in good faith. Is this decision a surprise for
anybody?
Me, I've been seriously asking myself since september 28, every time I
saw some of the TDF founders posting around with an @openoffice.org
In data 17 ottobre 2010 alle ore 16:42:58, M. Fioretti
mfiore...@nexaima.net ha scritto:
I'm not defending sun/oracle. But I'm reading surprised reactions and
I really don't understand how there could have been any surprise. AM I
missing something ?
As far as the attitude of Oracle
Hi Marco, *
M. Fioretti schrieb:
Hi folks,
maybe this is a very stupid question or just a very naive one, but I
assure you that it is in good faith. Is this decision a surprise for
anybody?
Me, I've been seriously asking myself since september 28, every time I
saw some of the TDF founders
On 10/17/2010 3:52 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi Barbara,
Barbara Duprey wrote on 2010-10-17 03.13:
Are you saying that letting unsubscribed users post to a mailing list
breaks rules? (That may be, but the issue has been discussed to
exhaustion many times and still looks like Lilliput's
On Sat Oct 16 2010 21:07:19 GMT-0700 (PDT) Paul A Norman wrote:
Dear Andy,
You caught me just in time, due to space needs I was nearly going to
take LibreOffice off and put OOO 3.21 on instead.
Can you send me a copy of the original file to have a look at? Save it as
an .odt.
Thats part
On 17/10/10 12:54, Gianluca Turconi wrote:
In data 17 ottobre 2010 alle ore 12:57:23, Jean Hollis Weber
jeanwe...@gmail.com ha scritto:
AG, I've just confirmed: Gianluca's method causes the cursor to do what
you want, in OOo but not in LibO.
Believe me, it does so in LibO too. At least in
Hi Gianluca, *
Gianluca Turconi schrieb:
In data 17 ottobre 2010 alle ore 14:51:39, Italo Vignoli
[...]
I would expect that *Team OpenOffice.org e.V.*, the recipient of
donations, would have decided about who can or cannot manage its money
before the approvers in charge are removed.
Perhaps
On 17/10/10 13:37, Ian wrote:
On Sun, 2010-10-17 at 08:08 -0400, Marc Paré wrote:
Just out of curiosity, re: budget money: Was the budget funds collected
and donated to the community?
If so, how could a corporation come in and take over a community and
take control of their budget?
On 10/17/10 08:43, Italo Vignoli wrote:
On the other hand, LO is just one letter short of LOL and LOO, and I
would avoid feeding the borgs with such an option.
Very good point.
LibO is better than OOo and LibreOffice is a better name than
OpenOffice. :-)
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Hey there,
If i'm right TDF and LO are founded to go forward to the future and
improve the application.
In fact to do this and make a clean cut to our old history with OOo
I'm willing to supervise the new identity of LO.
I will not deny our sources to OOo but for the people out there and
On 17/10/10 17:08, James wrote:
On 10/17/10 08:43, Italo Vignoli wrote:
On the other hand, LO is just one letter short of LOL and LOO, and I
would avoid feeding the borgs with such an option.
Very good point.
LibO is better than OOo and LibreOffice is a better name than
OpenOffice.
Hi Mike
Just saw your OOo/Libre mail about your love for ui design. U believe we
have a common interest :)
Have you ever thought OO was primarily a copy of the old ms office? - many
of my issue reports have been rejected as excel works this way or I don't
think it's relevant to keep your
On 17/10/10 16:20, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
snip
Oracle is trademark holder and contributor of the main part of the
code for OpenOffice.org. But if they behave as owner of the community
public reaction will be even more non-ambiguous than now.
So what are the legal implications of all of this
On 15/10/10 10:01, Mirek M. wrote:
Hi Sveinn
2010/10/15 Sveinn í Fellisvei...@nett.is
Þann fös 15.okt 2010 08:29, skrifaði Jean Hollis Weber:
On Fri, 2010-10-15, David Nelson wrote:
IMHO, LibO needs something that is quite new and a bold departure...
Please
On 17/10/10 17:37, AG wrote:
On 16/10/10 08:05, Mirek M. wrote:
Hi David,
Here's an experimental mock-up of how panes might be managed:
http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2010/10/16/citrus-possible-solution-to-pane/
2010/10/15 David Nelsoncomme...@traduction.biz
Hi, :-)
One thing missing
In data 17 ottobre 2010 alle ore 18:05:37, Bernhard Dippold
bernh...@familie-dippold.at ha scritto:
Really, I'm not able to understand how these actions ca be legally
supported.
It's all about the definition of the OpenOffice.org community. If this
community has *not* established a
In data 17 ottobre 2010 alle ore 18:32:33, AG
computing.acco...@googlemail.com ha scritto:
So what are the legal implications of all of this then? If Oracle now
own the code base, are we likely to see Oracle enact a version of SCO's
attempt to claim ownership of the GNU/Linux code base
On 10/17/2010 10:28 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi,
Barbara Duprey wrote on 2010-10-17 17.25:
I understand, and you have my sympathy :-) -- but don't a lot of those
requests come from people who *subscribed* but still don't understand
how lists work, what they do, what they are for? I see
On 17/10/10 04:26 AM, AG wrote:
On 16/10/10 22:33, Scott Furry wrote:
In TDF archive is the message thread of observations about the deb
repository and setting it up.
See the thread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg00497.html
[TDF discuss] LO deb repo for more
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote:
...snip...
It would be nice if our emails - mine was sent on Tuesday in response to
my resignment decided by an Oracle employee - are answered in due time.
I think you mentioned the 'resignment' several times,
On 2010-10-15 7:33 PM, Christoph Noack wrote:
Charles mentioned that choice is best ... that is true if people
really know what they want and how to adapt something in their given
situation. Many software products miss that the majority of their users
doesn't fall into that category :-) So to
On 2010-10-16 5:00 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote:
No, because so often they get overwhelmed by the list volume.
Mailman has the concept of 'umbrella' lists...
Maybe we could create 'micro' lists - say, one for Writer, one for Calc,
one for Impress, etc - then make the 'discuss' and 'users' lists
On Sun, 2010-10-17 at 22:35 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
I've been intending to check how many CC members are Oracle employees
and how many are not. Do they really have the votes to force these
changes?
They have all the votes, basically many developers in Hamburg are either
leads or
On 2010-10-17 4:52 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Barbara Duprey wrote on 2010-10-17 03.13:
Are you saying that letting unsubscribed users post to a mailing
list breaks rules?
it breaks rules. Believe me, during my last 6 years in the
OpenOffice.org project, I received so many requests by
Simos Xenitellis wrote:
I think you mentioned the 'resignment' several times, however it is
good to explain
what actually happened. In English you would not use 'resignment'.
1. Did an Oracle employee 'sack' you? Did they tell you that you are
now not part of the council anymore?
2. Was
Dear members of the community,
If we think that we indeed have a better community model and software
development model, our best way of showing that is by demonstrating how
it is supposed to work. The ongoing discussions about old, bad working
models will only take our energy when getting
On Sun, 2010-10-17 at 21:58 +0200, Per Eriksson wrote:
Dear members of the community,
If we think that we indeed have a better community model and software
development model, our best way of showing that is by demonstrating how
it is supposed to work. The ongoing discussions about old, bad
Sorry OOo/LibO is not a copy of MSOffice, this is a rough resume of the
OOo/LibO story:
1985: StarWriter for Amstrad CPC y Zilog Z80.
1991: StarWriter 5.5 for DOS and is also released StarDraw 1.0 and
StarBase 1.0.
1995: StarOffice 3.0 for Windows, OS/2, Mac
1996: StarOffice 3.1 for
2010/10/17 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@openoffice.org:
On 15/10/2010 Andras Timar wrote:
2010/10/15 Andrea Pescetti:
Strange. Language packs in OpenOffice.org (including those for
Linux-based systems) do include dictionary, thesaurus and hyphenation
patterns ...
Is LibreOffice's packaging
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 1:23 PM, AG computing.acco...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 17/10/10 17:08, James wrote:
On 10/17/10 08:43, Italo Vignoli wrote:
On the other hand, LO is just one letter short of LOL and LOO, and I
would avoid feeding the borgs with such an option.
Very good point.
lo is shorter than libo, it can save bits and will not be confused
with libraries.
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Sure - that's cool. I was merely thinking the Sun developers might
have seen their goal as beiong to mimic MS office rather than create
something better.
Sadly that was partly my impression. But I'm glad Libre might be
different in that aspect :)
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 22:09, Carlos Jose
2010/10/17 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@openoffice.org:
Andras Timar wrote:
2010/10/17 Andrea Pescetti:
Being the maintainer of the Italian dictionary package, I'm sad to see
LibreOffice trashing my work (and doing the same with other
community-contributed dictionary packages, like Danish as
Dear LibreOffice Community,
My few brief experiences with all this (esp on the help+user list)
have convinced me that if there are any wise or mature individuals
able to take the helm of your project - then read Animal Farm by
George Orwell, and make sure you don't make the mistake of the pigs.
Please don;t forget interaction with *TeX family of projects in this.
Paul
On 17 October 2010 10:07, j.martin.pedersen m.peder...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote:
On 16/10/10 20:48, Simos Xenitellis wrote:
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 7:18 PM, j.martin.pedersen
m.peder...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote:
Hi,
I was asked recently on help+users if I even had Beta 2
I had already done a complete uninatall of my first version of LibreOffice
I had downloaded LibO_3.3.0_beta2_Win_x86_install_multi.exe
It unpacked as LibreOffice 3.3 (4cb0e024) Installation Files
Oncve installed help about reports it as:
What about building a reporting tool into LibO that would send
relevent info and comments from the user?
Paul
On 18 October 2010 14:46, Paul A Norman paul.a.nor...@gmail.com wrote:
I was asked recently on help+users if I even had Beta 2
I had already done a complete uninatall of my first
Re early discussion on Wondpws install and unpacked install files...
Would they need to be present for the Windows Control Panel/ Add
remove Programs/ Support Info -
- Repair button to work?
Paul
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Hi *,
I feel same people can't be ruling OOo and TDF. And I see a
clear Conflict of Interest for people who has responsibilities in OOo
and chose to have responsabilities in the TDF.
Both communities will be able to collaborate in tons of things, but the
project leaders can't share
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 04:48:23 AM +0200, Ramon Sole
(ramon.s...@opscons.com) wrote:
Both communities will be able to collaborate in tons of things, but
the project leaders can't share responsabilities in both projects.
If so, why to have two Communities? You can't fork a open source
project
... and above all their
general opinion about what Ramon said and on how to handle the
OOo/Oracle - LibO/TDF relation in the future.
Hello Mr. Fioretti,
It is my firm and deep belief that, given my experiences and
interactions, as limited as they may be in some cases, with all of those
Andrea Pescetti wrote (17-10-10 14:47)
Well, OpenOffice.org donations go to Team OpenOffice.org e.V. (not to be
confused with OpenOffice.org Deutschland e.V.)
http://contributing.openoffice.org/donate.html
and the treasurer of Team OpenOffice.org e.V. happens to be from Oracle:
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