Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread adept techlists - kazar
On 4/23/11 10:02 AM, Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello adept techlists - kazar, Am 2011-04-22 19:01:54, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: Just wanted to briefly point out that your participation on these libreoffice mailing lists ARE being indexed by search engines

Re: [tdf-discuss] Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread adept techlists - kazar
On 4/17/11 8:30 AM, RGB ES wrote: People like forums. People NEED forums. So, why every time the forum issue is considered here it falls on nothing? I just want to write in as a consultant and end-user, to point out several of the major benefits of forums over mailing lists that I have not

Re: [tdf-discuss] Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Andy Brown
adept techlists - kazar wrote: Sure, leave the mailman lists up (who knows in how many places the instructions for subscribing have been posted) but also please start official TDF web-based support forums. I bet you'd find LibreOffice users who would volunteer to moderate one or two topic

Re: [tdf-discuss] Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread adept techlists - kazar
On 4/24/11 12:04 PM, Andy Brown wrote: adept techlists - kazar wrote: Sure, leave the mailman lists up (who knows in how many places the instructions for subscribing have been posted) but also please start official TDF web-based support forums. I bet you'd find LibreOffice users who would

[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/04/24 12:14 PM adept techlists - kazar wrote: Ah, OK, i just searched for libreoffice forum and found http://en.libreofficeforum.org/. Uncategorized, and I believe forums with categories are better learning tools. Plus, even though I started from the en. subdomain and selected English

[tdf-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello adept techlists - kazar, Am 2011-04-24 11:09:03, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: hmmm. it loads in 2 seconds here (and i have very low quality DSL). So take my word for it, your mailing list messages to any list that is archived, as are all TDF lists, are indexed by search engines. I am

[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello adept techlists - kazar, Am 2011-04-24 11:21:03, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: I just want to write in as a consultant and end-user, to point out several of the major benefits of forums over mailing lists that I have not noticed yet in this discussion: mainly --visibility, persistence

Re: [tdf-discuss] Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Andy Brown
adept techlists - kazar wrote: On 4/24/11 12:04 PM, Andy Brown wrote: The only thing I have to say is that a new forum is not needed. There are two long time forums already supporting LibO and a new LibO forum. The only thing that is needed/wanted is that the TDF/LibO support pages have links

[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/04/24 12:14 PM Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2011-04-24 11:21:03, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: Another thing: once I'm on a web forum, if I have time I start poking through the categories to pick out topics of interest and i learn so much about the forum. And another thing:

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Andy Brown
Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011/04/24 12:14 PM adept techlists - kazar wrote: Ah, OK, i just searched for libreoffice forum and found http://en.libreofficeforum.org/. Uncategorized, and I believe forums with categories are better learning tools. Plus, even though I started from the en. subdomain

[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/04/24 12:43 PM Andy Brown wrote: Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011/04/24 12:14 PM adept techlists - kazar wrote: Ah, OK, i just searched for libreoffice forum and found http://en.libreofficeforum.org/. Uncategorized, and I believe forums with categories are better learning tools. Plus,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread adept techlists - kazar
On 4/24/11 2:42 PM, Andy Brown wrote: What do you mean by Uncategorized? If you feel there is something that will make the forum better I am sure that it can be looked at by the management. good to hear. If you look at http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ you will see topic

Re: [tdf-discuss] Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread adept techlists - kazar
Also, Andy, please have a look at internationalizing the email one gets when one registers. It does not arrive in one's chosen language and, for me anyhow, I cannot read those instructions (in Czech or Polish or something, no insult intended to anyone's native language, most languages look the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Jaime R. Garza
I got the instruction in Polish, that is funny, because my wife is polish! ;-) Cheers! On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 20:55, adept techlists - kazar techli...@ade.ptwrote: Also, Andy, please have a look at internationalizing the email one gets when one registers. It does not arrive in one's chosen

Re: [tdf-discuss] Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Andy Brown
adept techlists - kazar wrote: On 4/24/11 2:42 PM, Andy Brown wrote: What do you mean by Uncategorized? If you feel there is something that will make the forum better I am sure that it can be looked at by the management. good to hear. If you look at

Re: [tdf-discuss] Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Andy Brown
adept techlists - kazar wrote: Also, Andy, please have a look at internationalizing the email one gets when one registers. It does not arrive in one's chosen language and, for me anyhow, I cannot read those instructions (in Czech or Polish or something, no insult intended to anyone's native

[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/04/24 1:05 PM Andy Brown wrote: adept techlists - kazar wrote: On 4/24/11 2:42 PM, Andy Brown wrote: What do you mean by Uncategorized? If you feel there is something that will make the forum better I am sure that it can be looked at by the management. good to hear. If you look at

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Andy Brown
Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011/04/24 1:05 PM Andy Brown wrote: adept techlists - kazar wrote: On 4/24/11 2:42 PM, Andy Brown wrote: What do you mean by Uncategorized? If you feel there is something that will make the forum better I am sure that it can be looked at by the management. good to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Robert Derman
snip And I found another couple of similarly completely uncategorized forums. The forums at http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ look much more promising, but are not these two products expected to diverge more and more? In my understanding LibreOffice is a new project that

Re: [tdf-discuss] European Commitee enter talks with MS licences, Please make your action today against it.

2011-04-24 Thread Robert Derman
Jon Hamkins wrote: On 04/22/2011 05:33 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi *, On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 5:40 AM, Jon Hamkinshamk...@alumni.caltech.edu wrote: On 04/06/2011 04:54 AM, toki wrote: There are roughly one billion words in the English language. You could have a LibO spell checker

Re: [tdf-discuss] Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Jaime R. Garza
I have some doubts as to whether the two products will diverge now that Oracle has decided to end its involvement with OpenOffice.org . I suspect that at some point rather than let OOo just whither and die it will merge with The Document Foundation and the two will become essentially one.

Re: [tdf-discuss] European Commitee enter talks with MS licences, Please make your action today against it.

2011-04-24 Thread Jon Hamkins
On 04/24/2011 01:36 PM, Robert Derman wrote: I have said this a number of times, and that at least the English version is sadly deficient in compound words, at least the one in OOo 3.11 which I am still using because I am reluctant to give up the personal dictionary to which I have added

Re: [tdf-discuss] Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Robert Derman
Jaime R. Garza wrote: I have some doubts as to whether the two products will diverge now that Oracle has decided to end its involvement with OpenOffice.org . I suspect that at some point rather than let OOo just whither and die it will merge with The Document Foundation and the

Re: [tdf-discuss] European Commitee enter talks with MS licences, Please make your action today against it.

2011-04-24 Thread Robert Derman
Jon Hamkins wrote: On 04/24/2011 01:36 PM, Robert Derman wrote: I have said this a number of times, and that at least the English version is sadly deficient in compound words, at least the one in OOo 3.11 which I am still using because I am reluctant to give up the personal dictionary to which

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Andy Brown
Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011/04/24 12:43 PM Andy Brown wrote: This comes as a surprise to me. I do not see any ads before or after I login. Andy You won't see them if you have AdBlock or other ad blocking extensions for your browser. That doesn't change the fact that there is a commercial

[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/04/24 8:34 PM Andy Brown wrote: Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011/04/24 12:43 PM Andy Brown wrote: This comes as a surprise to me. I do not see any ads before or after I login. Andy You won't see them if you have AdBlock or other ad blocking extensions for your browser. That doesn't

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Augustine Souza
I have no issues with a forum that is commercial presumably to [b]cover costs[/b]. As Andy says, the ads are easily blocked (in that I had no need to take specific steps to block ads from that site). One more advantage of forums is that sig files are restricted in length and readers aren't

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 12:21:03PM -0600, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011/04/24 12:14 PM adept techlists - kazar wrote: Ah, OK, i just searched for libreoffice forum and found http://en.libreofficeforum.org/. Uncategorized, and I believe forums with categories are better learning tools. Plus,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-24 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 12:51:53PM -0600, Larry Gusaas wrote: You won't see them if you have AdBlock or other ad blocking extensions for your browser. That doesn't change the fact that there is a commercial aspect to the forum. With Adlock and noscript disabled I see no ads. Larry --

Re: [steering-discuss] Suggested blog about MC work and philosophy

2011-04-24 Thread André Schnabel
Hi Cor, Am 23.04.2011 23:57, schrieb Cor Nouws: the next part is more about the process /merits on which members are accepted. Is it that you want to say that on the one hand not each contribution is a ground for membership and on the other hand the MC will look to all possible

[steering-discuss] proofreading the German bylaws

2011-04-24 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, as pointed out in the latest blog entry (http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/04/20/status-quo-on-the-foundation-part-ii/), the next step for legally setting up the Foundation is that those who speak German should proofread the current translation of the bylaws, as these will serve

Re: [steering-discuss] Suggested blog about MC work and philosophy

2011-04-24 Thread Cor Nouws
André Schnabel wrote (24-04-11 10:46) Am 23.04.2011 23:57, schrieb Cor Nouws: the next part is more about the process /merits on which members are accepted. Is it that you want to say that on the one hand not each contribution is a ground for membership and on the other hand the MC will look

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: User Groups in each country approved LibreOffice

2011-04-24 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Daniel, SC members, I just want to show you what already has been discussed on this topic. See two links below... Daniel Gonzalez schrieb: On 04/12/2011 08:02 AM, Daniel Gonzalez wrote: Hi all I wonder if there are any process to validate a LUG or TDF Group LibreOffice users in a given