Re: Alternative communication platform (was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Best time for Conference Calls)
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:44 AM, Christoph Noack christ...@dogmatux.com wrote: ... Enough ranting ... you may remember that I talked about an open platform that provides text, voice, video, whiteboard capabilities in different virtual meeting rooms, and that (when the call has been finished) also provides a downloadable video. It also provides (limited) managing of people's schedules, so maybe we can give it a try - a test installation? What do you think? Project page videos: http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/ ... If this really would work, it would be a great resource for the whole community, I think. I think that any move to a well built open source product is very progressive for our community. Not sure if you have the time for this at the moment, I know that I am snowed under with work so I am only just getting enough time to do a little work on the current site. I watched the video and I like the concept. I am sure there are many alternatives out there, including Google's open source Wave server based on the XMPP protocol. Having said that, we can't just stop ranting. If you/we want to setup a system like this then analysis has to be done to determine the best product as well as resources and time put into setting it up. If you want to setup a demonstration server I am sure there will be people interested in trying it out for a time to evaluate the benefit to the community. Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Best time for Conference Calls
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hi, Alexandro Colorado wrote on 2011-01-31 17.48: I would suggest a more democratic and independent way to access the resource. For IRC for example, you can just join in whenever of the day you wish to. I would recommend just launching the initiative with a set date for ASIA and whoever makes it, join in. The issue here is that most of the infrastructure is very locked to the subscriber (Florian) as opposed to IRC which you can join without needing the admin to be present. There is no easy solution unfortunately, except maybe having a pre-registry of the room. This will allow florian to send the information via email and have it schedule to the regional group needs. Same thing will go for America where the US marketing group or others could do the same for their groups. sadly, the room is indeed tie one account, so shared managing is not possible. However, if someone pings me in time, I can happily give out access credentials for people to dial-in. Florian Is Talkyoo a free service? This would allow others to establish accounts and host calls. The alternative is Skype, which I am a BIG fan of, which now supports group calling. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Best time for Conference Calls
I thought I would put forward a view regarding the best time for conference calls being held world wide. The current situation regarding the conference calls is such that the people situated in South-East Asia and Australia need to be awake at 3-4AM to attend the calls. Might I suggest That we move the times earlier in the day to around 1200-1400 GMT. http://www.wheatland.com.au/sites/default/files/files/BestTimeCalling.PNG As far as I can see this would exclude the least number of people around the world from attending the calls. What do others think? Thanks, Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] help - can not understand how to install LO3.3
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:45 AM, Nicola Di Deo nic...@mailopen.net wrote: On 27/01/2011 20:25, alan c wrote: It is not clear to me how I should install LO 3.3. I have torrented down LibO_3.3.0_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz and also LibO_3.3.0_Linux_x86_langpack-deb_en-GB.tar.gz I have then extracted and obtained LibO_3.3.0rc4_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US and LibO_3.3.0rc4_Linux_x86_langpack-deb_en-GB I am totally confused at the extracted packages: for example, one folder contains a bout 50 deb files! I am using ubuntu 10.04.1. Is there a help page somewhere for guidance? tia 1) extract all files 2) open terminal 3) cd /home/yourhome/wheredownloadedfiles/LibO_3.3.0rc4_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US/DEBS 4) sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.* 5) sudo dpkg -i ./*.deb 6) cd ./desktop-integration 7) sudo dpkg -i ./*.deb Do the same for the other package Done Does running the executable file ./update work as an install also? This is a file that comes packaged with the download. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] New year - new listmailfooter
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@openoffice.org wrote: Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: If You think, it beeing a good thing to have a posting guidelines pointer in the footer, then I'll be glad to put it in there for all active Mailinglists. I agree it's a good thing to have it, and I suggest to seize this opportunity to get rid of the eternity tagline if possible, in favor of a less flamboyant formulation. +1 Regards, Andrea. It might be worth placing a link to the appropriate Nabble archive. ie per post or mailing list. Mike -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Introduction/New Website Bugs
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 7:31 AM, Daniel Neel dneel...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all. My name is Daniel Neel and I'm interested in working on LibreOffice's new Drupal-based web site. I have experience developing with (X)HTML and CSS on a couple of web sites and have dabbled with Python and other technologies from time to time. Anyways, I reviewed the new LibreOffice web site and recorded issues I found. Is it possible for me to fix these bugs myself, or would I need to be granted commit rights? -- Web site bugs All notes taken using Chromium 8.0.552.237 (70801) Ubuntu 10.10, referring to the Drupal web site at http://libreofficeaustralia.org/ Navigation bar - the sub menu of the LibreOffice item doesn't appear to align along the navigation bar's left edge, while the other items align correctly Home Page - Take a tour to explore the functions and features of LibreOffice should inlude a period after LibreOffice - all other items end in periods. - The shadows under each image might look better feathered a bit more, with less hard edges - The shadow under the puzzle icon doesn't appear centrally aligned while the other shadows do - Login or register to post comments Older polls - might be useful to have the links highlighted/underlined, as they're (in chrome 8) indistinguishable from normal text without mousing over them. - Also in chrome 8 and firefox 3.6 the Older polls item should be on a new line - currently a little confusing LibreOffice/Calc - url doesn't follow the naming convention of other LibO products. Listed as ../features/libreoffice-calc rather than ../features/calc - This also might affect the page's title which is LibreOffice Calc | LibreOffice.org when it should be Calc | LibreOffice.org, going by the other product pages - also is the cause of a broken link on the Features page Download - uses an old Apple logo - not sure if their newer logos are available for use or not - also uses an old Ubuntu logo rather than the updated ones (located here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand) Download/Extensions - Discover new possibilities, Extensions make document creation fun., Explore and install now - inconsistent use of periods Features - Space between heading and start of page content inconsistent with other pages (the space between Features and LibreOffice is a comprehensive...) Features/Accessibility - Inconsistent spacing between heading and start of page content Community/ - Items in the large list aren't presented in the same order as in the navigation bar - Page titles are inconsistent (see Project Teams and Forums vs the other items) Community/Project Teams - Contains links to two seperate Quality Assurance team pages, each with differing content Community/Forum - Sub-forum titles become un-aligned depending on if there's an icon to the left of them (see mail icon) and if the thread has a mail icon and a description of the sub-forum (potentially in other cases as well) News - Assuming the language bar should go below the To suggest a news article please contact the News Editor team section. All product pages (LibreOffice/... Calc/Writer/etc) - Inconsistent spacing between the navigation bar and the start of the page's content Daniel, Thanks for your interest in the development. We are currently focusing on the development of the libreoffice.org site in order to get the site up quickly. The site you are looking at has a longer term approach and is not going to be complete in the short term. We are organising a conference call soon to gather the website team together in order to better coordinate this work. It would be great if you could come along. I will add these items to the list of actions for the Drupal development, but I would not expect to see anything actioned here for at least the next few weeks due to the urgency of the live site. Thanks for contributing, and we would love to see you get involved in the team. Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:59 PM, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote: Case in point - Michael's work on Drupal would have provided integrated mail list forums nabble so that any user could use their tool of choice, and all would be interconnected, not isolated, making these silly chest-thumping arguments about which tool is better totally moot. Charles, The work on the Drupal development has halted as per the Steering Committee statement. There seems to be a disconnect between what the community/mailing list groups want and what the Steering Committee is willing to support. From my discussions with the individuals involved with the Drupal development there seems to be a consensus that until the Steering Committee allows the individual community groups some autonomy to make their own decisions and avoids overruling the groups it is unlikely that the development will continue. The vast majority of the website team has been supporting and contributing to this development as it is seen as the 'way forward' but the SC and some founding members have made it clear that this development will not continue. Personally I would like to see 'website team lead(s)' elected within the website team, by the website team and decisions made at a community level upheld without the SC stepping in. If you or others wish to see this development continue, I would suggest that you rally one or more of the SC members to overturn the decisions made at the most recent meeting and allow autonomy within the functional teams. Thanks, Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] [Forum]How will the forum be organized?
2011/1/11 Fabián Rodríguez magic...@member.fsf.org: On 11-01-09 08:28 PM, Andy Brown wrote: On Sun Jan 09 2011 07:04:12 GMT-0800 (PST) RGB ES wrote: https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/forums/ They are hidden (no link on the help page) and you cannot post on them yet, but they exists and you can register ;) So my question is: how those forums will be organized? There will be one for each local site or only one on English? Categories? Organization (moderators, etc.)? Regards Ricardo Why add another forum? There is already a LibO Forum at http://libreofficeforum.org/forum . The Official OOo Forum at http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ not only supports OOo but off shoots such as Libo, NeoOffice and StarOffice. The Un-official Forum at http://www.oooforum.org/ is the oldest and largest OOo related support forum around and has received LibO questions and answers in the past few months. Andy I just registered to http://libreofficeforum.org and I am fairly certain it uses Drupal. I took the liberty to contact its creator and he's already indicated he's willing to collaborate: I would be glad to see LibreOfficeForum.org as the official forum. I personally am not a developer, and I don't have any official role in LibreOffice. For years I have been a heavy user of OpenOffice, spending many hours on it every day. And now I'm sure that the way forward is LibreOffice. I'm not an expert yet, just a heavy user. ;-) I created the site immediately after LibreOffice was announced, because I saw that they had no web forums, and I personally don't like mailing lists. And I know that there are several unofficial forums as well for OpenOffice (like oooforum.org), so I'm sure that this site could also occupy that role if the Document Foundation doesn't approve it officially. It appears likely that LibreOffice will continue to diverge more and more from the code base of OpenOffice, and it would be confusing to see bugs and support requests for two different products in the same forum. So for that reason I would personally recommend that the Document Foundation not continue to use the same user.services.openoffice.org forum for LibreOffice. - Sam I supposed someone from TDF / steering committee could maintain this contact more formally than me, I hope I am not overstepping anyone when doing this. Cheers, Fabian -- LibreOffice questions ? Des questions sur LibreOffice ? Preguntas acerca de LibreOffice ? Ask LibreOffice: http://libreoffice.shapado.com/ ~ Fabián Rodríguez http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab To answer some questions, yes the forum uses Drupal, which is not the best alternative for functionality or familiarity for end users as it takes a lot more time to setup moderation, roles, etc. You will also find many references to the inadequacies of using Drupal as a forum system. [1] If we are to use an external forum as the official infrastructure we must have confidence about longevity of information, confidence in appropriate moderation and assurances about the server hardware/plan. IMO we shouldn't leave hosting of critical official infrastructure up to one person, who 'could' forget to pay the bill for their server plan, then poof... it's gone. In sumary, I totally agree with the vast majority of comments here. If we don't provide an official forum it will be done offsite, without the checks and balances within the community. We also risk losing many users and contributors if we don't provide this essential support infrastructure. I would love to see a phpBB test install on the official servers for the website team to test/configure so we can consult early and often with the community about our requirements. Thanks, Michael Wheatland [1] http://drupal.org/node/242239#comment-1259545 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] [libreoffice-website] [Forum] How will the forum be organized?
*** I have cross posted this mail to the website mailing list, for discussions about web infrastructre *** The feedback that I have already got from users interested in the discussions around the Drupal project is that forums are a very important mechanism in sourcing and providing help to end users. One discussion that I had outside of the mailing list regarding the support structure of arguably one of the more successful open source projects, Ubuntu. The structure for end users to source expert support for all aspects of the product hinges off the Wiki and the forums. There is a little more formal structure within these forums due to the breadth of the software that is supported, and usually when you can't work out something the wiki or forum is the first search result, containing detailed troubleshooting and problem solving for almost any issue an end user is likely to encounter. IMO The provision of product specific support structures that is dedicated to the product, in our case LibreOffice, is not only essential for non-technical end users, it is one of the best marketing tools available for an open source community. Your average end user will likely never search through mailing list threads, even if they contain exactly the information they are looking for. A well presented forum running from a dedicated forum system such as vBulletin or phpBB provides the end user with interface familiarity and branding which builds trust in the brand and community. Both phpBB and vBulletin are able to be fully integrated with all major CMS systems to include single sign on, profile and session sharing. For Example: Drupal: http://drupal.org/node/32879 http://drupal.org/project/phpbb Joomla: http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/communication/forum-bridges Plone :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/forum/server/Plone As I understand it, Silverstripe is a long way behind all the major CMS systems in terms of 3rd party integration, but looking through the forums I have seen that there are a few people who have hacked Silverstripe in order to allow some basic functionality: http://www.silverstripe.org/archive/show/2593 If we did provide a user forum, which I believe we should, using a dedicated forum system will provide far more functionality and usability, as well as regular security updates than we could ever hope to code and maintain ourselves without drawing on resources that could be used for development of LibreOffice. What do others think? Is the forum support option important for trust building and familiarity? What system would we use? Thanks, Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Forums bi-directionally cooperating with extant mailing lists?
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 8:22 AM, J.B. Nicholson-Owens j...@forestfield.org wrote: RGB ES wrote: https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/forums/ Will the forums be bi-directional where forum posts are echoed on the appropriate mailing list in a non-thread-breaking way and vice versa? It would be nice to not have to go to two separate places (mailing lists and the new forums) to read what's going on. A section of the website team working on the goal of a more powerful website based on Drupal is working on this at the moment. Drupal has this functionality out of the box with a bit of configuration. It also allows messages across other communication media such as XMPP, SMS or social networks to be replied to, but we haven't got that far yet. :) If you wanted more information or have ideas about what functionality you would like to see please feel free to ask. Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] [Forum]How will the forum be organized?
On 11/01/2011 2:12 AM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 17:12 +0100, Stefan Weigel wrote: Hi Drew, Am 10.01.2011 16:50, schrieb drew: But even if that where not true, there is this: LibreOffice not OpenOffice. The application is not the same, and the organization is not the same. What part of that do you disagree with, please. The forums and other support sites (and the people running them) that were running under the label of OpenOffice.org until LibreOffice was born, were supporting all derivates of OpenOffice.org and they still do. And since LibreOffice came up, they do support LibreOffice as well. So, in this sence, there is no difference between LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org. If some user needs to know how to use DataPilot or how to use Templates or how to import data via Base, there is no difference or no noteworthy difference between LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org. That´s why I beleive it does not make sense to have well-established forums that cover all derivates of OpenOffice.org including LibreOffice and yet additional forums dedicated to LibreOffice. Stefan Ok, that is good. Well, in the particular of the moment you are correct that most of the application is the same. - but I do not want to be tied to OpenOffice.org in any way - the ability to support OpenOffice.org users at our support site will be possible also - the time to begin building our knowledgebase is now, while it is still possible to easily enhance it through the availability of the older forums. - the existence of multiple support options IMO is a positive for end users, not a negative and causes no burden to our project. Slightly off topic but it is part of this issue: As to the question of a single monolithic view of the project, all things LibreOffice will be at one domain, this is a basic assumption that I an not willing to adhere to. There is great value in a networked view, I am not advocating a lack of concern for the trademark, that will be from time to time necessary and is part of our responsibilities, but I am most vigorously arguing against a view that all things should flow into a single point, rather that we build an organization that flows outwards, we support the efforts and initiatives of others that make use of this Free Open Source application we build. Thanks Drew I totally agree with your views Drew. Some sites are changing to suit our new product, for example OOoAuthors is changing branding and domain to avoid OOo branding and the mix up this causes with our community. I think we should support them officially if they wish to accommodate our community. However you are spot on, LibreOffice is a new community with a new product. We need to build brand recognition by not confusing end users by pointing them to OOo branded infrastructure. I also share the passion for freedom that you advocate with external sites. Although I think there is justification for community oversight on an officially sanctioned forum. Nabble is not a forum, does not provide the functionality of a forum, and is likely to confuse end users who just want to ask a simple question on a forum. Also, I think it was suggested that I would set up something, this is not the case, I have my hands full at the moment, someone else would have to pick this up, but I would support the creation of a dedicated forum system fully. Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Queensland floods not near me
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Several people have emailed me to ask if I've been affected by the great Queensland floods. I'm happy to say that no, the floods are well south of here. We've been having a lot of rain here (though not this week) and do have a drainage problem around our 2-year-old house, but no flooding into the house. Jean and all, I am glad to know that Cairns and Townsville have avoided the floods and that you are not affected. There are hundreds of thousands of people who have been forced from their homes in the Gladstone and Rockhampton regions and lost all of their possessions. Farming and the minerals industry, which I am a part of, has been affected in a big way, which has many many people unable to work until the clean up is complete. Knowing many people who have lost a lot, I am contributing towards the support appeal to assist the people who have lost everything. If people feel the same way as I do, the Salvation Army, an amazing Australian social support organisation, is collecting funds to ensure those hardest hit have a chance to recover. Please consider donating a few dollars towards this tragedy. http://www.salvationarmy.org.au/ I thank all those who have and will donate, as well as everyone who sends their thoughts and prayers to those in crisis at this time in Gladstone and Rockhampton. Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Addons
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote: Michael Wheatland wrote (04-01-11 02:59) If everyone was as clear and concise as you there would be no confusion about any issues. No, to me this is an obvious example of someone apparently unable to understand, Please do not result to personal insults. working on the Silverstripe site is that they don't understand the CMS using silly arguments, If you are going to quote my emails, ensure you do not 'snip' parts which can be taken out of context. Over the coming couple of weeks, I will put together a proposal for the Steering Committee to consider an implementation plan. and only interested in his own plan. I am interested in the best outcome for the community. My skill set is limited, as I am a chemical engineer, not a programmer, who is putting time and effort into this community part time. I think the whole website team is doing a great job, I am contributing everything that I can to help the community. I would appreciate a little more respect. Thanks, Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Addons
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote: On 2011-01-02 12:13 PM, Zaphod Feeblejocks wrote: I have a concern about the Addons. In my 10+ years of using OpenOffice/StarOffice, the inclusion of addons was a great idea. However, the marketing of addons was not so good - hidden away in a place that you can find once, but not so easily find again. Could addons be clearly signposted on the main page? Could first-time users be taken to the addons page, so they know functionality can be extended? Could addons be clearly posted in the menus? Could the frequency of downloading addons be counted and a pack of the most popular ones be compiled? Could the most-frequent-addons pack even be an optional extra included with the download? There could even be the 'vanilla' install and the 'bumper-pack' install. Last summer, as part of the MSO to OOo migration, I hacked a batch file to install OOo with various settings and then various addons I had chosen (why was 'clipart' an addon, I wonder?). Simplifying this for downloaders wil help - I know several people who think OOo is not very good, because it has no clipart. Personally, I don't care about clipart but it's all down to user perceptions! +5, all great points, but I'd also like to add that there should be some well defined pathway for an add-on to be nominated, considered and eventually incorporated (if deemed worthy) or not (if not) into the core code... Charles and Lee, I think I posted my other message in the wrong spot. The website team is working hard on this exact problem. The Drupal based site, which is planned to replace the current libreoffice.org site within the first half of the year already has (most) of this functionality. We are also going to duplicate this functionality with templates also, as they also represent high value 'addons' to our product which could also be included in the final product. Have a look at: http://www.libreofficeaustralia.org/download/extensions http://www.libreofficeaustralia.org/download/templates If you have any suggestions about the system or the site overall, the best place is probably the website mailing list. Thanks, Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] docx export
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:33 PM, yahoo-pier_andreit pier_andr...@yahoo.it wrote: Il 01/01/2011 20:29, Wolf Halton ha scritto: That looks like a good message. A direct save this as a .doc now button inside the dialog might be helpful for users as well. Yes it is a good message but I still prefere to put the doc docx end everything not related to standard odf in an Export menu voice, even with messages like that. Keeping in mind that your average joe end user is looking to 'save' his file, not 'export' it. Moving doc and docx file save to the export menu results in another thing to teach the end user rather than it being intuitive. I support a warning message for any and all exports, but we should keep it as simple as possible for end users. It is also important that LibreOffice does not recognise an export/save to doc/docx as a 'save' but rather an export so the program will prompt the user to save in ODF when closed. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Addons (was: Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format)
On 03/01/2011 8:46 PM, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hello everyone, Le Mon, 03 Jan 2011 10:58:18 -, Zaphod Feeblejocks zapho...@gmail.com a écrit : On 3 Jan 2011 at 17:29, Michael Wheatland wrote: Could addons be clearly signposted on the main page? Could first-time users be taken to the addons page, so they know functionality can be extended? Could addons be clearly posted in the menus? Could the frequency of downloading addons be counted and a pack of the most popular ones be compiled? Could the most-frequent-addons pack even be an optional extra included with the download? Zaphod, I have some good news for you. The website team is already tackling this with the Drupal implementation. In case you are not aware the current site at libreoffice.org is earmarked for an upgrade (as per the steering committee advice). The website team has been busy building the site over at a temporary domain www.libreofficeaustralia.org Great work! While I do thank Michael for its great work I believe there's a slight misunderstanding here: Michael's own exploratory work might be used one day for the LibreOffice website, but it is at this stage not considered for an upgrade. best, Charles. zf -- Charles-H. Schulz Membre du Comité exécutif The Document Foundation. Charles, Far from being 'my' exploration work, the majority of the website team has contributed towards this project after the Steering Committee discussion and the outcome of which, I am paraphrasing, to implement the Silverstripe CMS on Drupal.org with a view to go with Drupal long term. The progress made by many of the contributing members has been fantastic, and although I have been the most vocal of the website development team regarding the implementation of a community building and tooling site there are many other people who have done fantastic work. I will be applying to the Steering Committee soon to set a target date for implementation in order to focus the website team on a tangible goal. There does seem to be a little bit of misinformation out there regarding this SC decision, but it is quite clear if you listen to the decision outcome statement on the recording of the SC meeting. I am sure this will be clarified when the website team applies for a further decision on implementation. Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Addons (was: Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format)
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: to implement the Silverstripe CMS on Drupal.org does not seem to mean anything to me. With a view to go with Drupal was rather: with the possible option of Drupal in the long term. Sorry, I meant to write libreoffice.org not drupal.org a little bit of misinformation, Michael, is perhaps your enthusiasm leading to understand things the way you would like them to be :-). At this stage, I don't believe we have any clear plans to move to Drupal; there seems indeed to have been some early misunderstanding, but if you wish the SC will clarify its position (again) . But given that I'm a member of the said SC, it might be useful to you to take my words into account. To make this clear in my mind I have listened and read the decision statement from the Steering Committee decision. The conversation on the conference call: I would ask the people working on Drupal to do a more detailed planning in the next month regarding additional services... There were some bits that I didn't quite understand (poor quality sound), but many people voiced their opinion that we should consider Drupal as the long term solution. The statement to the website list from the SC is as follows: the CMS decision was taken: it will be Silverstripe as a starter, with plans to migrate to Drupal later on. http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.website/592 I would have thought that this official statement is very clear in the outcome and the website team has had a large group of people (larger than that working on the current site) working towards this end, whom might I say have done a fantastic job in a very short period of time. Clearly the implementation is still a few months off as we start to involve Native Language teams and other functional teams. I hope this clarifies my point, and makes it quite clear that I am not just hearing what I want to. This was the official decision statement as communicated back to the website mailing list. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Addons (was: Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format)
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hello Michael, Le Tue, 4 Jan 2011 01:26:09 +0930, Michael Wheatland mich...@wheatland.com.au a écrit : On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: to implement the Silverstripe CMS on Drupal.org does not seem to mean anything to me. With a view to go with Drupal was rather: with the possible option of Drupal in the long term. Sorry, I meant to write libreoffice.org not drupal.org ah, okay. a little bit of misinformation, Michael, is perhaps your enthusiasm leading to understand things the way you would like them to be :-). At this stage, I don't believe we have any clear plans to move to Drupal; there seems indeed to have been some early misunderstanding, but if you wish the SC will clarify its position (again) . But given that I'm a member of the said SC, it might be useful to you to take my words into account. To make this clear in my mind I have listened and read the decision statement from the Steering Committee decision. The conversation on the conference call: I would ask the people working on Drupal to do a more detailed planning in the next month regarding additional services... right. There were some bits that I didn't quite understand (poor quality sound), but many people voiced their opinion that we should consider Drupal as the long term solution. I might repeat Cor's statements here, but many people voiced their opinion that we should consider Drupal as the long term solution means: many people think we should decide whether Drupal would be a long term solution . It's hardly a Steering Committee decision requesting the use of Drupal. The statement to the website list from the SC is as follows: the CMS decision was taken: it will be Silverstripe as a starter, with plans to migrate to Drupal later on. http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.website/592 plans... later on. Not now let's rush towards creating the definitive Drupal website... I would have thought that this official statement is very clear in the outcome Obviously it is conditional, and makes clear that it's an option for the long term. and the website team has had a large group of people (larger than that working on the current site) working towards this end, whom might I say have done a fantastic job in a very short period of time. Clearly the implementation is still a few months off as we start to involve Native Language teams and other functional teams. And to our great dismay, calls for help for the current website, which has all the top priority, went lost in a sea of mails about the Drupal project, and despite several mails of people explaining Drupal was just an option. I hope this clarifies my point, and makes it quite clear that I am not just hearing what I want to. This was the official decision statement as communicated back to the website mailing list. Well you now see that the official decision was not a definitive statement about Drupal, and that it was *considered* as an option. Thanks for the clarification Charles, This makes a lot more sense than a couple of other abrupt, emotional statements made by others regarding the CMS decision that we have seen on the mailing lists. If everyone was as clear and concise as you there would be no confusion about any issues. As you can see, there is a lot of enthusiasm around the Drupal development which has been put to good use and we should not waste. From my conversations the only reason a lot of people have not been working on the Silverstripe site is that they don't understand the CMS and are not really interested in learning it. It is true, once you use Drupal, you will never install another CMS. Over the coming couple of weeks, I will put together a proposal for the Steering Committee to consider an implementation plan. Again, Thanks for clarifying this point. Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Just make the damn thing work! (was Re: Dictionary Syncing)
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 3:28 AM, Zaphod Feeblejocks zapho...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Charles, So why is there so much duplication of effort in the campaign against MS? I strongly disagree with your assertion that we are or should be engaging in any kind of 'campaign against Microsoft', or even that our long term goal is or should be to 'replace Microsoft Office as the package of choice...' Allow me to rephrase myself then: Why is there so much duplication of effort in the campaign to replace Microsoft products, on grounds of ethics, user choice, or simply being better? In any business, there is an aspect of being 'against' others. Newspapers compete against each other for market share. Retaillers are 'against' each other. Even Debian are 'against' Red Hat to an extent, but work together to develop both of their wider interests. What I think we are or should be striving for is to simply be the best Office/Productivity software available, whether free or commercial. We do and should NOT have to put Microsoft Office Down in order to raise ourselves up. If we cannot stand on our own to feet based solely on our own merits, then we deserve to fall flat on our faces. I'm not putting MSO down. I think my post was very complementary towards MS and their efforts. Yes, they might have a few questionable marketing tactics (that we should speak about), but they also have some fine engineers who make fine products. Thanks for giving me the chance to calrify my thoughts. zf Zaphod, I totally agree with your assessment of the situation. The work required to implement such an integration would be much larger but the payoff would be worth it for coordination and integration of an open source language management system. Great idea. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Dictionary Syncing
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:26 PM, pierre choffardet pierre.choffar...@free.fr wrote: Le 31/12/2010 11:51, James Clemence a écrit : A major feature I find irritating in word processors is the lack of dictionary syncing between multiple machines. I have a laptop, desktop, and occasional use of other machines, and would really like to be able to take my dictionary with me. Whilst I can use my own git repository, or shared net space to provide such a service, having this online as part of a document suite would be a really neat feature. At the very least, having a button which allows you to import/export the dictionary easily to remote sources could be a neat addition. What do others think? J same for me, and for my students. my solution is the folowing : http://www.dicollecte.org/home.php?prj=fr each time a word isn't in the curent dictionary, i propose this word to dicollecte. then the word is corectly added to the next dictonary and will be available for me on my other computers, and my students pierre As far as I can see there are only support for French and Latvian languages. As a part of the website team should we be looking to setup a LibreOffice dictionary editor based on the dicollecte code hosted on google? http://code.google.com/p/dicollecte/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Google changes and Torrents
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Nguyen Vu Hung vuhung16p...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Mark Preston m...@mpreston.demon.co.uk wrote: Is it likely that the - I suppose I should say suggested - changes to Google search terms, specifically the removal of the word torrent from the simple search terms, will affect Open Software availability? Specifically the Libre Office obviously. I am not sure of recent changes on google search engine but there is a torrent search service (beta) provided by Google. http://www.google.com/cse/home?cx=003849996876419856805:erhhdbygrma To be clear, this is a custom search engine, created by an end user, powered by Google, not created by Google. The same can be done for LibreOffice: http://www.google.com/cse/home?cx=008699344030617938202:sue51qa0b1o -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Google changes and Torrents
On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Mark Preston m...@mpreston.demon.co.uk wrote: Is it likely that the - I suppose I should say suggested - changes to Google search terms, specifically the removal of the word torrent from the simple search terms, will affect Open Software availability? Specifically the Libre Office obviously. I am a bit confused by this? Has there been suggestion of Google filtering legitimate and legal torrent files? Can you provide a reference. Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] [website][drupal] The Drupal website development update - December 2010
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 1:35 AM, Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.com wrote: I liked the proposed site theme. Very coupled and readable. Since I do a lot of my web browsing on a smart phone now, I am signed up on the website mailing list and looking forward to testing how it works on a 3.5 screen. Drupal is able to support two themes simultaneously. It would just be a matter of choice if we wanted to have a mobile domain which is displayed with a mobile theme. Maybe something we can think about at a later date. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Name Change for LibreOffice Applications
On 20/12/2010 7:03 PM, Samuel Mehrbrodt s.mehrbr...@googlemail.com wrote: I think it's good to change the names of the Applications so that they describe what each application does. LibreOffice is the brand which will be known and names of the applications should help to find the application you want to use. I would also suggest to translate the names of the applications like Google Docs does. So we could have: Text Table Presentation Drawing Formula I like the idea but you have used a mix of nouns and adjectives. I also think that calc does far more than 'tables', spreadsheet would be more descriptive if you wanted to use nouns. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] [website][drupal] The Drupal website development update - December 2010
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:19 AM, Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.com wrote: Great job! Is there a timeframe for this to replace the current home page? BTW - your placeholder theme looks fine. I think you could allow the regular users to choose from a range of builtin themes. I build for readability and comprehension and many themes mar those goals. Thanks for the feedback, There is a proposal from Carlos Jenkins regarding the theme which is currently under review within the design team mailing list. IMO Carlos' theme is quite clean and does a good job in maintaining readability while having a modern feel. Please have a look at the proposal and feel free to give feedback either here, on the design list or on the website mailing list. http://www.cjenkins.net/files/LibO_Website_Design_Proposal_DrupalDevTeam.tar.gz The timeframe for implementing a Drupal based community site is dependent on the time it takes to establish high quality customized work flows for the project teams. We are working through the documentation workflow at the moment and an 'idea generation' / 'brainstorm' / Feature request tool is being developed so as to have a structured tool that we can coordinate longer term improvements of LibreOffice. Thanks for the interest and any more feedback is welcomed. Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] [website][drupal] The Drupal website development update - December 2010
I thought it was about time to share some of the progress that the Drupal website development team has made since the last update. You can view the progress of the site at www.libreofficeaustralia.org (Note that international pages have not yet been setup) I would like to express my thanks to everyone who has been contributing to the Drupal site development so far, the development of the workflows and behind the scenes systems is fantastic. Since the last update we have: Put together a temporary theme (So people can get a feel for the site) Created a video support section, where authorised people can submit externally hosted tutorial videos Refined some of the forums systems (Still working on the mailing list type functionality) Created a governance system whereby SC members can propose agendas and submit meeting minutes The system automatically displays info on the next upcoming meeting from proposed agendas and you can play minutes recordings without downloading the file Setup a facebook support page where anyone can ask questions. We are currently working on ways for two way communication with FB and other social networks. In the process of creating an interactive FAQ section Creating the concept for the brainstorm system - This is a big undertaking and needs to be planned carefully for integration with other systems Interactive Project Teams now have their own forums and announcement areas (restricted posting to team members only) There are many other facets of work which I will not go into right now, but suffice to say that I am very proud of the work that the Drupal Website Development Team is doing. We will soon have more contact with the project teams to refine and revise the work we have implemented to suit their UI and workflow needs. The main area which we will concentrate on after the new year will be internationalisation and working with the native language teams to adapt our website design to suit their needs and incorporate suggestions from those teams across all languages. Again, a huge thankyou to all of those who have been involved with the development so far. There is still a lot of development to go for the resulting community site ,I encourage you to get more involved (time permitting) now, or after LibreOffice 3.3 has been released into the wild. Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] deb installer - have to manually modify link
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Friedrich Strohmaier damokles4-lis...@bits-fritz.de wrote: I think we should publish right now as is and complete under traffic, considering a website never beeing perfect. :o)) +1 We must remember the role of the Silverstripe site is a temporary CMS until the final Drupal site has been developed. The decision of the Steering Committee clearly indicates that we should implement a simple CMS so we can distribute the implementation of the initial site across our user base. The team developing the Drupal site have made great progress already and the worst thing that could happen is that we try to over-develop the temporary site just to have the final Drupal site implemented soon after we launch this site. Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Request: Installation Instructions
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Rene Engelhard rene.engelh...@documentfoundation.org wrote: And their quality is bad. Mentioning Ubuntu as an example here disqualifies you already. In Your Humble Opinion. Again please avoid attacks on individuals or groups of users. This risks alienating a large group of users. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: A proposal for effective, volunteer-friendly user support in LibreOffice
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: Only draw back I can think of is potentially broken links. One option to avoid broken links might be linking to the site search tool rather than individual pages, this would ensure all pages can be found even if they are moved, as well as consistency across languages which is the keystone of the Drupal system. Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: A proposal for effective, volunteer-friendly user support in LibreOffice
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote: Does Drupal Forums allow one to 'subscribe' (get email notifications) to both Main Topics/Sections as well as individual threads? The Drupal messaging/notification system can provide subscriptions and mail back responses for ANY part of the site. Topics, Sections, Threads, Areas of the site, Even every post across the site in a specific language to go to extremes. If you want a subscription available for something that is not available when the Drupal site goes Beta then you can request it and it will be added easily, but we will try to anticipate all possible use cases. The input and output of the system is fully configurable. You can even get your subscriptions sent to you in Twitter, Facebook or Jabber (Google Chat) messages if you want. Plug and play really. Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: A proposal for effective, volunteer-friendly user support in LibreOffice
Ubuntu will be doing half the work for us as they will also be shipping LibreOffice to all Ubuntu users. I believe that a number of other distributions are planning the same. Now we just need to convince people to upgrade their OS and shipping the CDs is taken care of ;) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Request: Installation Instructions
You were responding *my* mail not referring to my contents. Friedrich I am new to this mailing list thing. I use Gmail and I reply by clicking the 'reply' space at the very bottom of the conversation list. How are you able to tell which message I reply to? And what should I be doing to ensure that the message gets to it's intended target? But thanks for the tip. Yes I was most defininately referring to Rene's comments. I have experienced a similar type of arrogance amongst 2 other open source projects, one of which was resolved quickly and resolutely by it's members actively denouncing such attitudes within the community. Thanks again, Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Request: Installation Instructions
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:31:58PM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 02:28:54PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: open to learning a *few* new things, it is extremely user friendly. There is, however, a segment of the population that actively resists learning *anything*. And that's a problem. I would say that's *the* problem. Bob Holtzman The message does not seem to be getting through here. Simply: This type of personal criticism is unacceptable in the LibreOffice community. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] [UI] Possible roadmap
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote: So here's an imagined roadmap (not a real LibO roadmap, keep that in mind), to imagine how TDF could get to the Citrus UI gradually: http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2010/11/20/citrus-getting-there/ Mirek, I love the concept of the Citrus UI. One bit of feedback. I would love to see a colour picker introduced into LibreOffice, but I would also like to see the Colour Palette system developed so that you can easily create and save your own or download new ones from a website. A good colour palette which can change text styles easily would be fantastic. This is something that I will be exploring as soon as the Drupal community site is up in a few months. Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice should have own LibreOfficeFont
Just because FlashCounter found a dumb way to collect statistics doesn't mean you have to do something dumber. Dave. LOL but still +1 Beautiful timeless fonts are difficult and to create, you can't just throw them together like that font building website suggests. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Wiki heading styles need numbering
David, I would also love to see heading numbering introduced into the wiki. This would bring the wiki format up to standard with the LibreOffice documentation heading format. Christoph's concern about linking is a concern. Does anyone know if heading numbers can be introduced into MediaWiki as a display only feature without impacting the links? Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Wiki heading styles need numbering
David, I would also love to see heading numbering introduced into the wiki. This would bring the wiki format up to standard with the LibreOffice documentation heading format. Christoph's concern about linking is a concern. Does anyone know if heading numbers can be introduced into MediaWiki as a display only feature without impacting the links? Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] document foundation wiki issues ...
Jonathan, I would invite you to join the LibreOffice Drupal website development team, or if you are not interested in developing with Drupal I can suggest that you get involved with the temporary LibreOffice Silverstripe website. I would suggest that you check the LibreOffice Wiki (Website tab on the left). There is a team of people working on the suggestions you have raised and MANY more with the consultation across the project groups such as the documentation, marketing/branding/artwork, development and steering committee groups. Having said this, although a much more comprehensive community site is being built the WIKI will Always be one of the primary hubs for communicating team plans, progress and proposals as a wiki is such an easy and constructive tool. If you can't find what you want, you can build it and they will come! If very keen you can have a look at the libreoffice.org Drupal development site, temporarily located at www.libreofficeaustralia.org during development before replacing Silverstripe in 4-6 months. I invite you to get involved. Michael Wheatland LibreOffice Drupal Website Development Team. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
[tdf-discuss] Website and online communication
One thing that I have noticed, especially as people start flooding into the community there seems to be a lot of independent suggestions for new web applications / communications tools from people who have not read through the mailing lists (who would) or read the website development wiki. To set everyone's mind at ease I would like to reassure you that the LibreOffice Drupal Development site is being built at breakneck pace. There are many people working hard to deliver the scheduled replacement for SilverStripe, which will not only do the community justice, but break down barriers for new members to join and start contributing to all facets of our fantastic project. Although the Drupal development site is not yet at a beta testing phase I would like to invite all groups across the LibreOffice Project discuss and propose requirements and ideas for the website which would assist in your work of bettering LibreOffice. There are already groups which have been consulted, and I thank them for their input, including the documentation and marketing/branding/artwork teams. We still need the basic framework for the code development group, steering committee, quality assurance and regional groups. You can add your needs and ideas on the wiki once agreed within the group: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Drupal#Drupal_Website_Requirements Thanks for your patience with the Drupal Development, but when launched on LibreOffice.org as the Steering Committee has recommended within 6 months, ALL of this functionality will be available in one place, our community. Thanks all, Michael Wheatland LibreOffice Drupal Website Development Team One User wrote: I don't know if and how easy this would be in drupal. So far I have coded a very simple webform in django (python is my thing :-)) to allow uploading a document and a comment. Another User wrote: Random thought here. im willing to donate some webspace to a wordpress setup for the project. i have experience in making the site look less like a blog and more like a proper website and there are some really killer themes available for wordpress. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***