Re: [IxDA Discuss] Two "Delete" behaviors - one type of label?

2009-04-29 Thread William Brall
You haven't used windows long enough then. :P The only reason to confirm, is because you can't undo. If you can undo the deletion easily, you don't need to confirm. The only reason not to make something undo-able is that you don't know how to. Not a very good reason. Go figure out how to make it

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Two "Delete" behaviors - one type of label?

2009-04-28 Thread Erin Lynn Young
I also like the undo idea. Another suggestion could be a trash can icon for immediate deletion, and a "Delete?" button for the delete requiring confirmation. I can't recall ever having to have confirmed a drag into a trash can or a click on a trash can, but the ? after Delete could indicate the q

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Two "Delete" behaviors - one type of label?

2009-04-27 Thread William Brall
Undo FTW. Always. No exceptions. Infinite if possible. If I put it in the trash, the trash should take itself out when space is needed. Like Tivo, only not slow and otherwise clunky. Undo is the new delete. Anything else is laze. Peace! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Two "Delete" behaviors - one type of label?

2009-04-27 Thread Jennifer R Vignone
Original Message- From: discuss-boun...@lists.interactiondesigners.com [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of Paras Aggarwal Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 12:30 AM To: disc...@ixda.org Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Two "Delete" behaviors - one type of label? Though, I like t

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Two "Delete" behaviors - one type of label?

2009-04-27 Thread Paras Aggarwal
Though, I like the idea of using ellipsis to differentiate the two. But if I think from a normal user perspective it should be more intuitive and obvious. Color coding the "Immediate delete" as red can make the system more confusing as it will become more prominent and attract user as compared to

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Two \"Delete\" behaviors - one type of label?

2009-04-24 Thread Dev Yamakawa
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Two \"Delete\" behaviors - one type of label?

2009-04-23 Thread Alinta Thornton
ndesigners.com [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Bacon Sent: Sunday, 19 April 2009 1:49 AM To: disc...@ixda.org Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Two \"Delete\" behaviors - one type of label? I support Dev in suggesting the ellipsis "..." to differentiate related control

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Two \"Delete\" behaviors - one type of label?

2009-04-18 Thread Elizabeth Bacon
I support Dev in suggesting the ellipsis "..." to differentiate related controls where the difference is that one acts immediately and the other requires confirmation. A confirmation of a delete is technically a dialog box, although a lightweight one, and the ellipses is a convention here. "Delete"

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Two \"Delete\" behaviors - one type of label?

2009-04-18 Thread Jim Drew
There are also two flavors of Deletion: true delete and "move to trash" (from which the user can retrieve it later). A third flavor as well, for some products: Hide. Remove from library (other other view) but don't do anything with the file on disk. (And I think Adobe Bride has a "flag"

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Two "Delete" behaviors - one type of label?

2009-04-16 Thread Jason Robb
I like Dev Yamakawa's approach by putting an ellipsis after the word "Delete..." You could also do something like "Delete now" and "Delete?" and ask for confirmation after clicking the "Delete?" button. Just a suggestion. Though I do believe the best thing to do is to have an "undo" button after

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Two "Delete" behaviors - one type of label?

2009-04-16 Thread Aditya Saxena
On email web apps (like Gmail), we have delete option which deletes the emails immediately and places them in the Trash folder. This seems to be a very normal practice for using 'Delete' functionality. Normally, no application does 'Instant Delete' as that is not a common interface practice. Howev

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Two "Delete" behaviors - one type of label?

2009-04-16 Thread tom coombs
Don't know what technology you're working with, but the Windows distinction between Delete and SHIFT-Delete comes to mind. It's not the same becuase they're both mediated, but it's an exmple of the user selecting one of two different actions to perform, which might work in your case. In a sense i

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Two \"Delete\" behaviors - one type of label?

2009-04-16 Thread Dev Yamakawa
> > > Has anyone here seen a label that provides the users some sort of > clue as to which action will take place? I can't think of an example at the moment specific to Delete functionality but it is pretty common to append an ellipsis (...) to a label to indicate that further input is needed fro

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Two \"Delete\" behaviors - one type of label?

2009-04-16 Thread Jack Moffett
On Apr 15, 2009, at 9:58 AM, Daniel wrote: Has anyone here seen a label that provides the users some sort of clue as to which action will take place? I have distinguished between these two patterns before by making the "immediate deletion" buttons red, while leaving the "mediated deletion

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Two \"Delete\" behaviors - one type of label?

2009-04-16 Thread Harry
There's also a third pattern - deletion with undo (as used on gmail). This combines immediacy with safety... http://37signals.com/svn/archives2/googles_gmail_undo.php Perhaps that's your solution right there, and it avoids futzing around with a new term or icon for "instant-delete" which lets fac

[IxDA Discuss] Two \"Delete\" behaviors - one type of label?

2009-04-15 Thread Daniel
There are two "Delete" patterns I have noticed out there: 1. - Immediate Deletion: As the name implies, the delete action takes place immediately. There are no confirmation steps of any kind. 2. - Mediated Deletion: This type usually includes an intermediate "page" or dialogue box that asks the