[OSGeo-Discuss] FedGeoDay 2015

[Andrew Ross]

Dear Everyone,

(x-posted to LocationTech & OSGeo discussion lists, please fwd to any 
who might be interested)


On Thursday October 15th, FedGeoDay  will be 
returning to Washington D.C..


This one day conference runs from 9am to 5pm and features an incredible 
line-up of speakers, technologies, initiatives, and use cases. It is a 
wonderful learning opportunity and the warm camaraderie makes it a lot 
of fun for all. The low cost is really nice as well!


I'll be attending again this year. I hope to see some of you there.

Kind regards,

A
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Where do YOU want to go for FOSS4G NA 2016

[Andrew Ross]

Hey Daniel,

(x-posted to OSGeo  LocationTech discussion lists)

Great question  thanks for raising it.

The costs are about the same, same dates, and both are downtown 
locations in the midst of many points of interest nearby. Both with 
strong engaged communities in the region. The key differences are:


 * One is a conference hotel we'd take over completely (Philly)  one
   is a convention center (Raleigh).
 * Philadelphia the city  Raleigh the city
 * Proximity to other nearby major cities
 * Philly has nearby hostels for those interested. Raleigh had the
   University residence but it's  bit of a hike.
 * Transportation links from other places in North America are a factor.
 * Some have noted they feel past events hosted in the city should
   positively/negatively affect whether it should be selected.

Kind regards,

Andrew

On 14/07/15 07:19, Daniel Morissette wrote:

Hi Andrew,

For the vote to be really meaningful and it would help if someone 
could write a few words about the pros and cons of each option, 
including venue type, accommodation costs (price range), 
transportation options, potential dates and whatever makes each option 
outstanding.


Short of that, someone like me who is not familiar with both cities 
will either end up having to do a good amount of research, or resort 
to flipping a coin.


My 0.02$

Daniel

On 2015-07-13 3:18 PM, Andrew Ross wrote:

Dear Everyone,

You may recall we recently designed and implemented a new governance
model for FOSS4G NA
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WlgmJgtl0LaV0EO0NtDDSnloTgsIvxu9KwddPDwX1WU/edit. 

Thank you once again to the large team of people who participated in 
that.


Over the past weeks, we bootstrapped the model for FOSS4G NA 2016. We
have created a RFP for venues to host the conference and received a
great response. With much effort we were able to find two especially
great options for the conference. They are the DoubleTree in downtown
*Philadelphia*, and the convention center in downtown *Raleigh*.

We'd like to ask you where you'd like to go. Please take a moment to
complete this short survey here:
http://bitly.com/F4GNA2016

Thank you!

Andrew



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[OSGeo-Discuss] Where do YOU want to go for FOSS4G NA 2016

[Andrew Ross]

Dear Everyone,

You may recall we recently designed and implemented a new governance 
model for FOSS4G NA 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WlgmJgtl0LaV0EO0NtDDSnloTgsIvxu9KwddPDwX1WU/edit. 
Thank you once again to the large team of people who participated in that.


Over the past weeks, we bootstrapped the model for FOSS4G NA 2016. We 
have created a RFP for venues to host the conference and received a 
great response. With much effort we were able to find two especially 
great options for the conference. They are the DoubleTree in downtown 
*Philadelphia*, and the convention center in downtown *Raleigh*.


We'd like to ask you where you'd like to go. Please take a moment to 
complete this short survey here:

http://bitly.com/F4GNA2016

Thank you!

Andrew
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Update re: FOSS4G NA 2016

[Andrew Ross]

Dear Everyone,

(x-posted to OSGeo  LocationTech discussion lists. Please forward to 
any who are interested. Thanks!)


We would like to inform you that the core committee for FOSS4G North 
America has formed and begun work for the 2016 conference.


As per the new governance for FOSS4G NA, the committee is comprised of 
the past 3 FOSS4G NA Chairs (Eddie Pickle, David Bitner, and Rob 
Emanuele), a representative for OSGeo (Mark Lucas), and a representative 
for LocationTech (Jim Hughes).


The committee will be issuing an RFP for selecting the conference’s 
venue, for a number of cities, very soon. In the meantime, the committee 
requests any organizations that are interested in performing the role of 
logistics organizer, please identify themselves by June 5th. You can do 
so via. a post to the foss4gna_selection group 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/foss4gna_selection.


Also, for any people who are interested in volunteering to be part of 
the team, please let us know by subscribing to the foss4gna_selection 
group https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/foss4gna_selection and 
posting to communicate your interest at any time.


Kind regards,

Andrew
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G North America selection process

[Andrew Ross]

Dear Everyone,

For those interested in participating, the team has now called for 
approval on the governance for FOSS4G North America. Thus far, 7 people 
have voted, and support is unanimous so far.


Voting is taking place on the FOSS4G NA selection list 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/foss4gna_selection. The 
deadline is end of day this Wednesday, May 6th.


Since we came into this without a formal way of making decisions  
approving, we're going to us a rough consensus process to ratify the 
first version. We're hoping that a good number of people weigh in.


If you feel so inclined, please communicate your feelings by voting on 
the above list as follows:

+1, you support it
0, you abstain
-1, you cannot support it

Just in case you cannot support it, please be kind to share why  
hopefully we can address.


Kind regards,

Andrew

On 22/04/15 20:37, Andrew Ross wrote:

Dear Everyone,

(x-posted to OSGeo  LocationTech discussion lists, please fwd to all 
interested parties)


As a fairly new conference, FOSS4G North America has lacked a formal 
selection process in terms of how to select which city/venue, who was 
organizing, and more. Until now...


A team of concerned people from the community including many past 
chairs of North American FOSS4G events have collaborated to draft a 
proposal for how FOSS4G North America will be governed.


On behalf of the team, we would like to invite you to review the draft 
and participate in the process. The review period will last until 
April 29th. After which, we will enact the process for FOSS4G NA 2016.


The governance document is available publicly here 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WlgmJgtl0LaV0EO0NtDDSnloTgsIvxu9KwddPDwX1WU/edit#. 
Anyone can comment. All discussion takes place via. a Google group 
here https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/foss4gna_selection.


A brief summary is as follows:

The city  venue selection process will be conducted by a committee 
consisting of:


  * The 3 most recent FOSS4G NA chairs
  * One appointed representative from OSGeo
  * One appointed representative from LocationTech

The committee will select the next conference location factoring their 
votes, plus votes from attendees  sponsors from the previous 
conference. The same committee will also select the organization to 
run the logistics for the conference. The conference chair will be 
elected at the previous conference by conference attendees.


If you're interested, please do join the Google group to discuss and 
participate. Thanks in advance.


Kind regards,

Andrew


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[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G North America selection process

[Andrew Ross]

Dear Everyone,

(x-posted to OSGeo  LocationTech discussion lists, please fwd to all 
interested parties)


As a fairly new conference, FOSS4G North America has lacked a formal 
selection process in terms of how to select which city/venue, who was 
organizing, and more. Until now...


A team of concerned people from the community including many past chairs 
of North American FOSS4G events have collaborated to draft a proposal 
for how FOSS4G North America will be governed.


On behalf of the team, we would like to invite you to review the draft 
and participate in the process. The review period will last until April 
29th. After which, we will enact the process for FOSS4G NA 2016.


The governance document is available publicly here 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WlgmJgtl0LaV0EO0NtDDSnloTgsIvxu9KwddPDwX1WU/edit#. 
Anyone can comment. All discussion takes place via. a Google group here 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/foss4gna_selection.


A brief summary is as follows:

The city  venue selection process will be conducted by a committee 
consisting of:


 * The 3 most recent FOSS4G NA chairs
 * One appointed representative from OSGeo
 * One appointed representative from LocationTech

The committee will select the next conference location factoring their 
votes, plus votes from attendees  sponsors from the previous 
conference. The same committee will also select the organization to run 
the logistics for the conference. The conference chair will be elected 
at the previous conference by conference attendees.


If you're interested, please do join the Google group to discuss and 
participate. Thanks in advance.


Kind regards,

Andrew
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Still time to register for FOSS4G-NA (but not for long!)

[Andrew Ross]

Wow, lots and lots of FOSS4G-NA people sign up at the last moment 
apparently! :-) It is going to be a vibrant conference indeed. Thanks so 
much for the great support.


I wanted to share some good news, for those that still might like to 
come, we have extended the low pricing for 4 more days. Don't wait, 
register now at: https://2015.foss4g-na.org/registration

(price goes up $300 after Thursday)

One more time, please help us thank the sponsors 
https://2015.foss4g-na.org/conference/sponsors. We are deeply grateful 
for their support as it enables us to put on a show like this.


And to the many speakers who are giving us their time  sharing their 
expertise, thank you.


Looking forward to seeing you next week in sunny  warm California!

Andrew

On 26/02/15 16:41, Andrew Ross wrote:

Dear Everyone,

There's still time to register for #foss4gna in California, but hurry! 
Price goes up after tomorrow. https://2015.foss4g-na.org/registration


It is going to be a fantastic conference. The program  workshops are 
outstanding. The BoFs look super interesting. The social events  
activities are going to be a lot of fun. There's something for everyone.


Kind regards, and see you there!

Andrew

p.s. For most of us, it'll be a lot warmer and sunnier!!


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[OSGeo-Discuss] Still time to register for FOSS4G-NA (but not for long!)

[Andrew Ross]

Dear Everyone,

There's still time to register for #foss4gna in California, but hurry! 
Price goes up after tomorrow. https://2015.foss4g-na.org/registration


It is going to be a fantastic conference. The program  workshops are 
outstanding. The BoFs look super interesting. The social events  
activities are going to be a lot of fun. There's something for everyone.


Kind regards, and see you there!

Andrew

p.s. For most of us, it'll be a lot warmer and sunnier!!
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Just 1 month to go before FOSS4G NA 2015!

[Andrew Ross]

Hi Everyone,

(x-post to OSGeo  LocationTech discussion lists, please fwd to any who 
are interested, thank you!)


There is just one month to go before FOSS4G North America 2015 
https://2015.foss4g-na.org in San Francisco. It runs March 9th to 
12th. If you have not already, please don't forget to register 
https://2015.foss4g-na.org/registration! It is going to be a fantastic 
conference.


There are many activities organized in addition to the outstanding 
workshops 
https://2015.foss4g-na.org/conference/schedule/session/2015-03-09 and 
program talks 
https://2015.foss4g-na.org/conference/schedule/session/2015-03-09. 
This email details some of them.


For those interested in speaking about important projects or 
initiatives, the deadline to submit a poster or map 
https://2015.foss4g-na.org/news/call-posters-and-maps is February 23, 
2015.


You can now schedule Birds of a Feather sessions 
https://2015.foss4g-na.org/news/submit-bof to meet  network with 
other people with similar interests.


Interested in getting involved in a project? Consider coming to the 
hackathon - March 10th @ 19:00 https://2015.foss4g-na.org/hackathon.


On the evening of Monday, March 9th, we have chartered buses to take 
people to  from downtown Burlingame for dinner meet-ups 
https://2015.foss4g-na.org/news/monday-dinner-meetup. There are many 
nice restaurants in which you can meet  network with people with 
similar interests.


Kind regards, and hope to see you next month!

Andrew
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Quick set of updates for FOSS4G NA in March

[Andrew Ross]

Dear Everyone,

FYI, this post has a bunch of quick  hopefully interesting updates for 
you about FOSS4G North America 2015, running March 9th to 12th.


http://42aross.wordpress.com/2015/01/16/foss4g-north-america-is-going-to-be-awesome/

It's going to be great! We encourage you to join us in California in March.

Kind regards,

Andrew
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[OSGeo-Discuss] TOMORROW: Early bird FOSS4G NA deadline

[Andrew Ross]

Dear Everyone,

(x-posted to OSGeo  LocationTech discussion lists, please forward to 
any who are interested)


A friendly reminder that tomorrow, Wednesday December 31, 2014,  is the 
last day to register for FOSS4G NA 2015 
https://2015.foss4g-na.org/registration at the early bird rate. The 
conference runs March 9th to 12th, 2015, in Burlingame, California.


Also, FOSS4G NA full access pass holders can attend any FOSS4G NA, 
EclipseCon, or PGDay (featuring PostgreSQL) talks for no added cost.


Kind regards, and Happy New Year!

Andrew

p.s. For those that might be interested, a selection of sponsorship 
packages https://2015.foss4g-na.org/prospectus are available.


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[OSGeo-Discuss] 4 more days to pitch for FOSS4G NA 2015

[Andrew Ross]

Hi Everyone,

FYI:
https://2015.foss4g-na.org/news/cfp-extension-until-nov-28th

Enjoy your day!

Andrew


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[OSGeo-Discuss] Today is the CfP deadline for FOSS4G NA 2015

[Andrew Ross]

Dear Everyone,

(x-posted to OSGeo  LocationTech discussion lists)

A friendly reminder that today is the deadline for the FOSS4G North 
America Call for Papers. Go to this link to submit a talk or workshop 
proposal https://2015.foss4g-na.org/cfp.


FOSS4G NA 2015 runs Mach 9th to 12th in Burlingame, California (near the 
San Francisco Airport).


This year, accepted speakers  workshop presenters get a free full 
registration pass.


Also, the conference is co-hosted with EclipseCon  PostgreSQL day. 
Attendees can go to any talk or workshop they like for no added cost.


Hope to see you in sunny California in March!

Andrew
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Today is the early deadline for FOSS4G NA 2015

[Andrew Ross]

Dear Everyone,

(cross-posted to LocationTech  OSGeo discussion lists, please do 
forward to any interested people)


Today is the early deadline for FOSS4G NA 2015. Please see more details 
here:

http://42aross.wordpress.com/2014/11/03/today-is-the-early-deadline-for-foss4g-na-eclipsecon-2015/

For those that weren't already aware, speakers that get their talks 
accepted get a free full access pass to the entire conference!! This is new.


The final deadline is November 17th.

Kind regards,

Andrew


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[OSGeo-Discuss] CfP for FOSS4G NA 2015

[Andrew Ross]

Dear Everyone,

(x-posted to OSGeo  LocationTech discussion lists)

FYI, the Call for Papers is now open for FOSS4G North America 2015. This 
conference takes place March 9 to 12 in Burlingame, California.

https://2015.foss4g-na.org/

It is co-hosted with EclipseCon North America which offers attendees the 
opportunity to attend any talk or workshop for no added cost.


We are working on complementary content such as a PostgreSQL day. More 
on this soon.


Also, please note, we are pleased to inform you that speakers get free 
passes at this event!


Deadlines:
Early bird - *November 3rd*.
Final deadline - *November 17th*.

Don't wait to get your proposals in!

Kind regards,

Andrew
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Announcing the 2014 LocationTech Tour

[Andrew Ross]

Dear Everyone,

For those that might be interested in speaking about their project, 
initiative, or just attending to meet others with common interest, we 
would like to invite you to participate in the 2014 Tour 
http://tour.locationtech.org/2014/. It is a federated series of global 
events featuring presentations on open source software and open data.


Nearly all of the events are free, and the tour is open to everyone. We 
would like to extend an especially warm invitation to people from OSGeo. 
We encourage people that wish to speak to propose their talk via. the 
Propose a talk 
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1uqqHpHjtiGCf5WGeNzn_oZWCh-fpAoO1h5s-VfF31sA/viewform 
link on the site. There's a local team in each city assembling the 
program and they'll get back to you.


Kind regards, and I hope to meet  see many of you again along the way.

Andrew
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo

[Andrew Ross]

Dear Bart, Jürgen, All

Here's a few thoughts that are probably a good place to start. We 
started to get into them at Saturday's board meeting. Feedback here is 
very welcome.


1) The FOSS4G North America 2015 https://2015.foss4g-na.org/ site 
mentions the event is a collaborative event by OSGeo  LocationTech. Is 
this acceptable? Yes/No


For what it's worth, our committees felt the above was totally fine.

Just in case not everyone was aware, the Eclipse Foundation's (aka 
LocationTech's) role in the event is to finance/underwrite, organize 
logistics like catering/Audio  Visual/etc, develop the web sites,  
handle registration, handle all the on-site details during the event, 
and business development/ working with sponsors throughout.


Our committees (Organizing  Program) are made up of people from the 
FOSS4G community which transcends OSGeo, LocationTech,  beyond. They 
decide the program content at arm's length and have heavy influence over 
how the conference looks/feels and any special programs we're doing such 
as diversity, outreach, and social events/aspects of the conference.


2) For future global events where the Eclipse Foundation (aka. 
LocationTech) provides organizing logistics as described in #1, would 
the same representation on the website as #1 be acceptable? Yes/No


Kind regards,

Andrew


On 17/09/14 02:29, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:

Hi Jurgen,

some of the discussions started on the conference e-mail list a while back 
(http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/) but only recently this 
discussion moved to the discuss list. That might explain some of the confusion.

I don’t think there is any information which is not out in the open as yet.

Andrew is best to comment on your other question, but I personally was mostly 
interested to see how conference organising could benefit from LocationTech’s 
offer to help.

No board decision has happened as yet. Normally after discussion settles in the 
community, the board might vote on specific motions that are brought to the 
table, but this step of the process has not yet been reached.

Hope this clarifies a bit, and sorry for the unsettling irritation all this has 
caused.

Best regards,
Bart

On 17 Sep 2014, at 10:21, Jürgen E. Fischer j...@norbit.de wrote:


Hi Bart,

On Wed, 17. Sep 2014 at 09:49:51 +0200, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:

can you please at least give the board a chance to form an opinion on this?
If it ever gets to the point that a motion is on the table and you have not
been persuaded, you can always vote -1.

Did an essential piece of information not get into the open yet, did I merely
miss it or just missed to see it's importance?

Is it just the FOSS4G event organisation that LocationTech apparently wants
to help (more?) with or is there more?

What pending board decision is causing all this (rather unsettling) irritation?


Jürgen

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo

[Andrew Ross]

Bob,

For what it's worth, and it's the same at OSGeo of course, LocationTech 
 the Eclipse Foundation want projects to want to join. It's always 
optional.


It is unlikely for the foreseeable future that OSGeo would invest in the 
specialized staff, infrastructure, and such to do the kind of rigorous 
IP review that LocationTech  Eclipse Foundation projects receive. This 
isn't a shot against OSGeo, it just is. There are other services  
infrastructure that are similar.


The good news is, so long as an OSGeo project was comfortable doing the 
trademark assignment (part of the process), then a project could be dual 
listed fairly comfortably. I don't think the benefit that OSGeo gets 
from projects is diminished in this case. If this is comfortable to 
everyone, I could see LocationTech projects do the same and list at OSGeo.


Andrew

On 17/09/14 08:08, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:


All,

How would the separation of projects occur between those in OSGeo 
already vs those wanting to be LocationTech certified as well.  I 
would imagine that some would not feel like they need to be certified 
by both.  What happens in this case?


Also, what are the longer term differences between LocationTech and 
OSGeo with regard to keeping code legally free of proprietary code, 
what's the followup on the Location tech side?  I'm more in tune with 
OSGeo processes BTW.


Bobb

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[mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf Of *Jachym Cepicky

*Sent:* Monday, September 15, 2014 4:59 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo

What about speeding OSGeo incubation in a way, that projects, who made 
it through locationtech, would have to work only at the differences 
between both incubations, afaik the community aspect and maybe 
something else, in order to make it to OSGeo project? It would be more 
easy for them to make it through OSGeo incubation, things would be 
speeding up a bit


I'm I completely wrong?

Jachym

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On Sep 15, 2014 7:55 AM, Jody Garnett jody.garn...@gmail.com 
mailto:jody.garn...@gmail.com wrote:


Good questions/discussion:

Going to chime in as I enjoy both working with OSGeo incubation and 
LocationTech. I am a couple timezones west of Daniel but sleep is on 
the horizon.


TLDR: I am not 100% positive of either organisation, which is why I am 
trying to make them better.


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On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Massimiliano Cannata 
massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch mailto:massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch 
wrote:


As you said the final goal is the same: open source Geospatial 
software affirmation. And this is the best thing I can wish to all of us.


Agreed, and I was very heartened by aspects of foss4g this year.

Nevertheless what I just have not clear is: what location teach do
differently with respect to osgeo?

A lot of questions :) The two organisations share the same goals, but 
have different talents with respect to outreach.


I am going to try and do a single Pro/Con for each organisation just 
so you can see how they differ. I suspect this is a better 
conversation over beer or coffee since I cannot tell what kind of 
differences you are interested in?


OSGeo Incubation

Pro: OSGeo incubation has the advantage of being less formal, and thus 
able to adapt to the needs of the projects in incubation today. This 
message gets lots repeatedly, which makes me a bit sad. I usually pick 
on my own projects, but perhaps the pycsw crew would not mind being 
used as an example. We have an checklist item about user / developer 
interaction, with an example provided of user list collaboration 
around releases. This example is dated and does not fit with an 
amazing aspect of the pycsw story - pycsw have great downstream 
projects fulfilling this role (risk mitigation around release based on 
bug reports, testing, collaboration). OSGeo incubation has the 
flexibility to recognise this value ... and get on with life.


Con: OSGeo incubation has a look but don't touch attitude - we like to 
leave projects as we found them and not disturb the way each projects 
is already functioning. This is great low impact approach for when 
we were taking on fully-fored projects like MapServer, MapGuide and 
PostGIS. What could possibly be the drawback? We are not in position 
to offer much guidance to organisations that are new to open source 
struggling to know where to start.


Contrast: We are great at reviewing project viability to try and 
protect OSGeo users from adopting projects that have gone stale.


LocationTech Incubation

Pro: LocationTech is a working group in an already established 
Software Foundation. They have a long history of teaching new projects 
how to do 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo

[Andrew Ross]

Dear All,

Discussions started informally back in 2011. By 2012, there were more 
formal discussions ongoing including a face to face meeting with Michael 
Gerlek who was appointed by the OSGeo board to represent OSGeo. I wanted 
to say publicly that Michael's work was extremely professional and I was 
very impressed.


I believe it's fair to say reaction was similar back then. Many people 
saw many positives in working closely together. Some asked if the two 
organizations could be one. Like today, there were some who were very 
fearful. Those that supported working closely together felt it was best 
not to push too hard. Discussions have continued since then over the 
past 3-4 years focusing on specific collaboration on a case by case basis.


During that time, LocationTech has sponsored and its projects 
participated in 2 FOSS4Gs. It was asked by an OSGeo board member to 
organize FOSS4G NA 2015. It has provided discrete feedback to OSGeo 
projects regarding intellectual property related issues in OSGeo 
projects so they could be fixed. OSGeo projects were well represented on 
the 2013 LocationTech tour and again in 2014. I hope these things are 
seen as a significant positive force.


I would like to draw attention to the fact that LocationTech's growth 
has not taken anything away from OSGeo. In fairness, building upon what 
Steven Feldman eloquently put, the problems OSGeo faces are problems 
today were faced before LocationTech existed, and since.


It's fair to say there is tension to collaborate more closely since the 
strengths of OSGeo  LocationTech complement each other despite some 
overlap. LocationTech  the Eclipse Foundation are *offering* to help 
solve some of the problems we've been talking about in OSGeo for many 
years. It's been 4 years and the offer hasn't been withdrawn nor really 
pushed despite fearful attempts to portray it as otherwise.


Andrew

On 15/09/14 20:28, Venkatesh Raghavan wrote:

On 9/16/2014 10:48 AM, Richard Greenwood wrote:

I don't get it, and my question is moot at this point in time, but why do
we need a new foundation? Why couldn't OSGeo have provided what
LocationTech purports to provide? Was there any discussion, or awareness,
in the OSGeo board prior to the formation of LocationTech?


Very pertinent questions form Rich. I hope we will receive some lucid 
answers.


Best

Venka

Rich


On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Jeff McKenna jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com

wrote:
Arnulf,

I definitely agree that both foundations fill a role and need to exist.

The point I am trying to make is that we have the power to change OSGeo,
if we feel some needs are not being met well.

I used too strong of words again, I am sorry.

-jeff




On 2014-09-15 2:59 PM, Arnulf Christl wrote:


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Jeff,
I believe that Daniel is actually right in what he says - given that I
understand the point he is trying to make. There are differences
between OSGeo and LocationTech and trying to talk them away will not
get us anywhere. And its not bad or goo either way, we just
operate differently.

The point is that in OSGeo you cannot move anything at all as a
business, not directly. In LocationTech you become a corporate member,
pay money and in return have influence over certain things and get
support. Directly geared towards your specific needs. OSGeo does none
of those things.

As an individual (with or without business) you can become the
committee chair and an OSGeo officer with absolutely no preconditions,
no money needed, no organizational backing and no other hierarchy.
Just because othes think you are doing a cool job and have accumulated
enough merit to go ahead as a leader. This would not work in this way
in LocationTech.

Both ways have reasons to exist and are good. Right?

Cheers.
Arnulf

Am 2014-09-15 10:45, schrieb Jeff McKenna:


On 2014-09-15 1:22 PM, Daniel Morissette wrote:


the members in OSGeo are individuals and the members in
Eclipse/LocationTech are businesses


Daniel this statement is not true, regarding OSGeo.  OSGeo members
are made up of all walks of life, and many are running private
businesses all around the world.  I have visited their
organizations/offices myself in my FOSS4G travels throughout the
years.

However I cannot change how you feel.

This part is unfortunate, these strong statements made publicly,
which I feel are made to divide our community.

Let me reinforce: our OSGeo community and our FOSS4G events (of
all sizes) are geared for everyone and anyone, with no sole focus
on one type of community.  And as the President of OSGeo, I am
happy to represent all of the members, of any kind :)

-jeff


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo

[Andrew Ross]

Jeff, Everyone

I'd like to try using a metaphor in case it might help.

Imagine FOSS4G as an open source library. Rather than create a new 
library that does pretty much the same thing, many feel that a single 
vibrant library in this case is the best thing for the ecosystem. 
Hopefully this is seen as pretty reasonable so far.


There are different models for open source. Some models are open to all 
 try hard to keep a level playing field. In this models people can 
comfortably contribute knowing that their efforts benefit everyone. In 
this model, it's open to everyone including parties that might be 
competitors elsewhere.


Other models are pretty unfair, such as when a company requires 
copyright assignment to the company, only allows employees to influence 
the roadmap, and uses a strong license like the GPL. Under such 
circumstances, that company has a strong advantage over anyone else. For 
one example, they are the only ones that can offer a non-GPL license 
version of the software.


For the past 10 years, different groups were welcome to contribute to 
our  FOSS4G library. After their contributions were sufficient, they got 
to participate in influencing the roadmap for the library. Some groups 
only had the capacity to contribute a little, some a lot.


I believe this is what we're talking about. LocationTech would like to 
contribute in a fair way and participate in the roadmap too, just as 
others have done. Everyone wins if this can happen. I'm very happy to 
talk about governance and how we can do things fairly, openly, 
transparently, and make sure everyone is comfortable.


If what you're telling me is that FOSS4G is not open source, but instead 
proprietary then I've made a mistake and it wasn't the FOSS4G I thought 
it was all these years.


Does this make sense?

Andrew

On 16/09/14 08:38, Jeff McKenna wrote:

Hello everyone,

To clarify publicly, I have no problem with LocationTech, and in fact 
I feel that its foundation plays an important role in our ecosystem.


The issue actually boils down to OSGeo's only event, FOSS4G.  We, as 
OSGeo, present this event each year and it is a large part of our 
annual revenue.  It is very important to the OSGeo foundation, as it 
is our flagship event.


It was made clear to me that LocationTech is not interested in having 
their own global event, and that they are in fact interested in our 
event, FOSS4G.


So maybe to remove this stress, or fear, I would prefer to pull back 
on the throttle, start with an MoU between the two foundations, and 
then begin to share booths at events, or donate booths at each other's 
events.  In other words, take baby steps, and build the relationship 
slowly, as we do with every other foundation.


I apologize for not bringing this issue to the community sooner. In 
fact this all really came to a head in Portland, and you can see that 
now we must deal with this all together.


I always try to represent the entire OSGeo community well, if you feel 
that I have made mistakes please share this here with everyone.  I am 
here to represent you.


The last few days have been very hard on me.

-jeff
OSGeo President




On 2014-09-16 11:01 AM, Andrew Ross wrote:

Dear All,

Discussions started informally back in 2011. By 2012, there were more
formal discussions ongoing including a face to face meeting with Michael
Gerlek who was appointed by the OSGeo board to represent OSGeo. I wanted
to say publicly that Michael's work was extremely professional and I was
very impressed.

I believe it's fair to say reaction was similar back then. Many people
saw many positives in working closely together. Some asked if the two
organizations could be one. Like today, there were some who were very
fearful. Those that supported working closely together felt it was best
not to push too hard. Discussions have continued since then over the
past 3-4 years focusing on specific collaboration on a case by case 
basis.


During that time, LocationTech has sponsored and its projects
participated in 2 FOSS4Gs. It was asked by an OSGeo board member to
organize FOSS4G NA 2015. It has provided discrete feedback to OSGeo
projects regarding intellectual property related issues in OSGeo
projects so they could be fixed. OSGeo projects were well represented on
the 2013 LocationTech tour and again in 2014. I hope these things are
seen as a significant positive force.

I would like to draw attention to the fact that LocationTech's growth
has not taken anything away from OSGeo. In fairness, building upon what
Steven Feldman eloquently put, the problems OSGeo faces are problems
today were faced before LocationTech existed, and since.

It's fair to say there is tension to collaborate more closely since the
strengths of OSGeo  LocationTech complement each other despite some
overlap. LocationTech  the Eclipse Foundation are *offering* to help
solve some of the problems we've been talking about in OSGeo for many
years. It's been 4 years and the offer hasn't

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo

[Andrew Ross]

 acknowledge we have a problem with FOSS4G organising?

2) what other solutions to this problem do you see and why are they
better than co-organising with Eclipse/LocationTech?

Bart

Sent from my iPhone


On 14 sep. 2014, at 03:25, Venkatesh Raghavan
ragha...@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp wrote:

Dear All,


On 2014/09/14 0:11, Jeff McKenna wrote:
Responding to your comment, we now work closely with several
foundations (ISPRS, ICA, GLTN, and soon GSDI, are examples that I have
met with recently personally).

There does seem to be something different about the way LocationTech
is handing this, seems somewhat 'rushed' or 'forced', and I am not sure
why this pressure.  Maybe we can slow things down a bit, take the hand
off the throttle, sign an MoU, maybe have booths at each other's
events...similar to how OSGeo works already with these other
foundations.

I fully agree with views expressed by Jeff.
I look forward growing collaborations with
OSGeo and other international organizations
in a systematic and orderly manner.

Best

Venka

We can talk about this shortly.

-jeff




On 2014-09-13 7:51 AM, Andrew Ross wrote:
Dear Jeff, Everyone,

I'll drop in to help as well. I may be a little late as I promised my
children a video chat. I apologize as I'd like to be there and help.

For what it's worth, regarding the tag line agenda item, OSGeo is far
from the only open source community. Unaffiliated projects in Github
can
claim that for example. It might be better to aim for something a bit
more distinct.

See you soon,

Andrew

On September 12, 2014 7:28:08 PM PDT, Jeff McKenna
jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com wrote:

   For the record Arnulf forgot that the Board meeting starts at 8am
at the
   same location, discussing of course the exact topics that he
mentioned
   (http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2014-09-13).  But please
don't
   let me hinder your energy, definitely tackle the areas that need
love
   (reviving the marketting committee, picking your favorite project
in
   incubation and give some nudges...lots to do!)

   Thanks, see you early at the sprint.

   PS. the Board meeting, and any Board meeting, is open to anyone and
   everyone.

   -jeff





   On 2014-09-12 9:25 AM, Seven wrote:

   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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   Folks,
   if anybody indicates interest in hacking OSGeo at the code
sprint in
   Portland tomorrow please answer.

   In past years we have brain stormed around Marketing,
Sponsorship,
   Education, Data (specifically how OSGeo can support the Open
Data
   model) and so on. It is a aunique opportunity to evolve OSGeo
as an
   organization and I would be happy to contribute to anything you
   might
   want to achieve for within and around OSGeo as an organization.

   This can also include how (or rather if at all) OSGeo manages
   FOSS4G.
   In my experience the day directly after the event is the best
   time to
   actually do this, impressions are still fresh and lots of
ideas have
   popped up. If we do not invest some time into realizing them
we are
   not going to get anywhere. So if you think OSGeo needs a push
in a
   certain direction, join. There will be representatives from the
   board
   of directors, the president (I guess you are there Jeff,
right?) and
   other folks in key roles. It is probably the only time in the
year
   when you will get so many bright OSGeo folks in one place.

   Here is a link to drop your ideas. Its a Wiki, just go hack it
   as you
   like:
   http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Hack_2014

   Cheers,
   Arnulf





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[Andrew Ross]

Dear Jeff, Everyone,

I'll drop in to help as well. I may be a little late as I promised my children 
a video chat. I apologize as I'd like to be there and help.

For what it's worth, regarding the tag line agenda item, OSGeo is far from the 
only open source community. Unaffiliated projects in Github can claim that for 
example.  It might be better to aim for something a bit more distinct.

See you soon,

Andrew

On September 12, 2014 7:28:08 PM PDT, Jeff McKenna 
jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com wrote:
For the record Arnulf forgot that the Board meeting starts at 8am at
the 
same location, discussing of course the exact topics that he mentioned 
(http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2014-09-13).  But please
don't 
let me hinder your energy, definitely tackle the areas that need love 
(reviving the marketting committee, picking your favorite project in 
incubation and give some nudges...lots to do!)

Thanks, see you early at the sprint.

PS. the Board meeting, and any Board meeting, is open to anyone and 
everyone.

-jeff





On 2014-09-12 9:25 AM, Seven wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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 Folks,
 if anybody indicates interest in hacking OSGeo at the code sprint in
 Portland tomorrow please answer.

 In past years we have brain stormed around Marketing, Sponsorship,
 Education, Data (specifically how OSGeo can support the Open Data
 model) and so on. It is a aunique opportunity to evolve OSGeo as an
 organization and I would be happy to contribute to anything you might
 want to achieve for within and around OSGeo as an organization.

 This can also include how (or rather if at all) OSGeo manages FOSS4G.
 In my experience the day directly after the event is the best time to
 actually do this, impressions are still fresh and lots of ideas have
 popped up. If we do not invest some time into realizing them we are
 not going to get anywhere. So if you think OSGeo needs a push in a
 certain direction, join. There will be representatives from the board
 of directors, the president (I guess you are there Jeff, right?) and
 other folks in key roles. It is probably the only time in the year
 when you will get so many bright OSGeo folks in one place.

 Here is a link to drop your ideas. Its a Wiki, just go hack it as you
 like:
 http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Hack_2014

 Cheers,
 Arnulf

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[Andrew Ross]

Jeff,

I'm not sure what LocationTech has to do with this topic? Please let me 
know if I'm missing something.


In case it wasn't perfectly clear, I'm happy to state, there's no 
pressure whatsoever from LocationTech in terms of OSGeo's brand. I get 
that some feel LocationTech's mere existence affects OSGeo, but in my 
opinion no more than Apache, Mozilla, Open Perception, Flamingo, and 
many others should.


In terms of events, there is a little more urgency, simply because we're 
planning for 2016 now. It is clearly desirable to have a single strong 
event.


Andrew

On 13/09/14 08:11, Jeff McKenna wrote:

Hi Andrew,

Sure, sounds good.

Responding to your comment, we now work closely with several 
foundations (ISPRS, ICA, GLTN, and soon GSDI, are examples that I have 
met with recently personally).


There does seem to be something different about the way LocationTech 
is handing this, seems somewhat 'rushed' or 'forced', and I am not 
sure why this pressure.  Maybe we can slow things down a bit, take the 
hand off the throttle, sign an MoU, maybe have booths at each other's 
events...similar to how OSGeo works already with these other foundations.


We can talk about this shortly.

-jeff



On 2014-09-13 7:51 AM, Andrew Ross wrote:

Dear Jeff, Everyone,

I'll drop in to help as well. I may be a little late as I promised my
children a video chat. I apologize as I'd like to be there and help.

For what it's worth, regarding the tag line agenda item, OSGeo is far
from the only open source community. Unaffiliated projects in Github can
claim that for example. It might be better to aim for something a bit
more distinct.

See you soon,

Andrew

On September 12, 2014 7:28:08 PM PDT, Jeff McKenna
jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com wrote:

For the record Arnulf forgot that the Board meeting starts at 8am 
at the
same location, discussing of course the exact topics that he 
mentioned
(http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2014-09-13).  But 
please don't
let me hinder your energy, definitely tackle the areas that need 
love

(reviving the marketting committee, picking your favorite project in
incubation and give some nudges...lots to do!)

Thanks, see you early at the sprint.

PS. the Board meeting, and any Board meeting, is open to anyone and
everyone.

-jeff





On 2014-09-12 9:25 AM, Seven wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Folks,
if anybody indicates interest in hacking OSGeo at the code 
sprint in

Portland tomorrow please answer.

In past years we have brain stormed around Marketing, 
Sponsorship,
Education, Data (specifically how OSGeo can support the Open 
Data
model) and so on. It is a aunique opportunity to evolve OSGeo 
as an

organization and I would be happy to contribute to anything you
might
want to achieve for within and around OSGeo as an organization.

This can also include how (or rather if at all) OSGeo manages
FOSS4G.
In my experience the day directly after the event is the best
time to
actually do this, impressions are still fresh and lots of 
ideas have
popped up. If we do not invest some time into realizing them 
we are
not going to get anywhere. So if you think OSGeo needs a push 
in a

certain direction, join. There will be representatives from the
board
of directors, the president (I guess you are there Jeff, 
right?) and
other folks in key roles. It is probably the only time in the 
year

when you will get so many bright OSGeo folks in one place.

Here is a link to drop your ideas. Its a Wiki, just go hack it
as you
like:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Hack_2014

Cheers,
Arnulf


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSDEM 2015: proposal for a geospatial devroom

[Andrew Ross]

Dear Johan,

Thank you for reaching out  the great idea. For what it's worth, I 
really like seeing cross-organization collaboration like this.


For some reason the message didn't seem to x-post to the LocationTech 
discussion list (at least that I can see). Hopefully this email might 
reach all the lists. I'll make sure the LocationTech community knows 
about it in any case.


I may be able to make it there myself. And I've heard good things from 
my colleagues who have gone to past FOSDEMs.


Andrew

On 06/08/14 03:11, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:

Hello everyone,

FOSDEM[1] is a free open source event bringing together about 5000
developers together in Brussels, Belgium. The goal is to provide open
source software developers and communities a place to meet to. The
next edition will take place the weekend 31/1 - 1/2/2015.

Last edition (in february this year) both Osgeo and Openstreetmap had
a stand and there was a lot of interest in geospatial technologies.

That is why the idea was coined to organise a geospatial devroom the
next edition.

Since the call for participation for developer rooms and main tracks
is now open [2], I would like to start writing a proposal [3], so
hopefully we can have a geospatial devroom next year.

Rather than organising the devroom organised by one project FOSDEM
really prefers joint organisation Proposals involving collaboration
across project or domain boundaries are strongly encouraged. That's
why I'm sending this mail to Osgeo, OSM and locationtech.

If you would like organising the devroom (writing the proposal and
selecting the presentations) and will be present, please get in touch
or add your name to my current draft proposal [3].

Note that one can also propose main track presentations. For main
track speakers travel expenses and accommodation will be covered by
the organisation. This is not the case for the devroom.

Finally a reminder that we are only sending a proposal for a devroom
- We are not sure it will be accepted. Competition will be fierce.

Cheers,
Johan

[1] http://fosdem.org
[2] https://fosdem.org/2015/news/2014-07-01-call-for-participation/
[3] https://titanpad.com/GptTJKIKJB
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [location-iwg] Logo Contest for FOSS4G NA 2015

[Andrew Ross]

Hey Everyone,

I'm happy to report that we've selected a winning logo for FOSS4G North 
America 2015 
http://42aross.wordpress.com/2014/08/05/logo-selected-for-foss4g-north-america-2015/. 
We hope you like it as much as we do.


More soon,

Andrew

On 29/07/14 11:53, Andrew Ross wrote:

Dear Everyone,

(x-posted to OSGeo  LocationTech discussion lists, please forward as 
appropriate)


We have recently started a logo contest for FOSS4G North America 2015, 
which runs next March 9th to 12th in San Francisco.


The logo contest is open  visible to all. We have already received 
countless outstanding logos. If you would like to review them  share 
your favourite, the contest is visible here: http://99d.me/c/8knj


Cheers!

Andrew 


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[Andrew Ross]

Dear Everyone,

(x-posted to OSGeo  LocationTech discussion lists, please forward as 
appropriate)


We have recently started a logo contest for FOSS4G North America 2015, 
which runs next March 9th to 12th in San Francisco.


The logo contest is open  visible to all. We have already received 
countless outstanding logos. If you would like to review them  share 
your favourite, the contest is visible here: http://99d.me/c/8knj


Cheers!

Andrew

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Announcing the program chair for FOSS4G NA 2015

[Andrew Ross]

Hi Everyone,

(x-posted to OSGeo  LocationTech discussion lists, please forward as 
appropriate)


Just a quick announcement related to FOSS4G North America 2015 for those 
that may have missed the announcement elsewhere.


The event takes place in San Francisco from *March 9th to 12th*.

I am pleased to announce that Rob Emanuele has joined the team to serve 
as program chair 
http://42aross.wordpress.com/2014/07/17/announcing-foss4g-north-america-2015-program-chair/ 
for FOSS4G North America 2015. Rob  I will be working to build the 
program committee and we'll have some further announcements soon.


Kind regards,

Andrew
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[Andrew Ross]

Hey Alex,

That's a great idea. I'll work on this.

Know anyone from the chapter who's interested?

Andrew

On July 22, 2014 5:33:17 PM EDT, Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.com wrote:
I encourage you to directly ask OSGeo California members to participate
in the planning.
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/California

There's an upcoming local meeting, Sept. in San Jose
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_California_Chapter_2014_Annual_Meeting

Mailing List
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/california

Thanks,
Alex

On 07/22/2014 11:27 AM, Rob Emanuele wrote:
 Thanks Andrew.
 
 I'm very happy to be selected to serve as program chair (my
announcement is
 here

http://www.azavea.com/blogs/atlas/2014/07/foss4g-north-america-2015-program-committee-chairman-announcement/).
 If anyone has any input on what they'd like to see in FOSS4G NA
2015's
 program or how you think it should be structured, please don't
hesitate to
 contact me; the more opinions I hear from the community, the better I
can
 guide the program committee towards creating the best possible
program.
 
 Cheers,
 Rob
 
 
 On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Andrew Ross
andrew.r...@eclipse.org
 wrote:
 
  Hi Everyone,

 (x-posted to OSGeo  LocationTech discussion lists, please forward
as
 appropriate)

 Just a quick announcement related to FOSS4G North America 2015 for
those
 that may have missed the announcement elsewhere.

 The event takes place in San Francisco from *March 9th to 12th*.

 I am pleased to announce that Rob Emanuele has joined the team to
serve
 as program chair

http://42aross.wordpress.com/2014/07/17/announcing-foss4g-north-america-2015-program-chair/
 for FOSS4G North America 2015. Rob  I will be working to build the
program
 committee and we'll have some further announcements soon.

 Kind regards,

 Andrew


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Using ArcGIS Desktop with PostGIS [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Andrew Ross]

Dear Bruce,

Not sure if this is interesting or not. In my previous role, my team  I 
worked on adding ArcGIS support for Ingres, which is also open source 
and similar to Postgres/PostGIS. I learned quite a bit during the 
process. I appreciated that Esri offers a very useful layer to plugin  
extend ArcMap/ArcCatalog, etc. You can code in Python, .NET, or Java.


Despite being warned by many that we were crazy to even try to do this, 
after investing to grok Esri's architecture, we got it done in only a 
few months. The end result was pretty good... full read/write and most 
major features worked well. It didn't require ArcSDE.


This wasn't every single feature of course.  For example, we didn't do 
long transaction support as it wasn't that urgent for our customer at 
the time  was going to be a lot of work. From what I understand from 
the outside, the team has nudged it along over the years fixing up bugs 
and edge cases we didn't consider in the first release.


At the time, we took a brief look to understand the landscape and there 
seemed to be some fairly significant limitations in ArcGIS support for 
PostGIS. I'm not sure if that's changed since then as it has been a 
couple of years.


The team has disbanded since, but if there were interest in engaging any 
of them, I'd be happy to make introductions. I also know of companies 
that do work in this space.


Andrew

On 11/07/14 00:56, Bruce Bannerman wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone have any experience using PostGIS as a vector spatial data 
source with ArcGIS Desktop as a client?


I'm particularly interested in our ArcGIS Desktop users being able to 
create, update and delete spatial data managed within a PostGIS 
environment, without the use of ArcSDE or similar middle wear.


Would you be interested in sharing any experiences that you've had 
from implementation to operational use?



We have a mixed spatial environment with both ArcGIS Desktop and open 
source Desktop GIS applications as client tools.


Provided that we can arrive at a good robust solution, I'd like to 
move our ArcGIS Desktop clients away from ArcSDE, and consolidate our 
vector spatial database environment on Postgres / PostGIS.


Bruce



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] any spatial databases for high performance geo-computing

[Andrew Ross]

Hi Shuai, Everyone

It's worth a look at a few projects @ LocationTech too. There's a nice 
community growing around these.


GeoTrellis http://www.locationtech.org/projects/technology.geotrellis, 
Apache v2 License, Intro Article 
http://www.eclipse.org/community/eclipse_newsletter/2014/march/article4.php, 
Video http://youtu.be/aS8BAmu9daU, Discussion list 
https://www.locationtech.org/mailman/listinfo/geotrellis-dev


GeoMesa http://www.locationtech.org/projects/technology.geomesa, 
Apache v2 License, Intro Article 
http://www.eclipse.org/community/eclipse_newsletter/2014/march/article3.php, 
Video http://youtu.be/JsQiOuGGWds, Discussion list 
https://www.locationtech.org/mailman/listinfo/geomesa-users


GeoJinni http://www.locationtech.org/proposals/geojinni (formerly 
Spatial Hadoop), Video 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3Q2XlGvYcUfeature=share, discussion 
list coming soon


Glad to help connect anyone who might be interested.

Kind regards,

Andrew

On 19/05/14 18:04, Zhang, Shuai wrote:

Hi All,

sorry for asking, but what do you think is a good choice of spatial database 
for high performance geo-computing?

In some high performance computing scenarios, data size tends to be huge, and a 
bunch of computer clusters work together with high throughput and tense 
computation. sometimes we use parallel filesystems like lustre, gfs, hdfs to 
handle specific problems but what if a spatial database?

I explored some of postgresql cluster solutions, such as streaming replication, 
pgpool, slony and so on. I think most of them are designed for failover, and 
they might not be able to stand up with the huge data size and high performance 
demands. the case is quite alike in oracle and db2 spatial, i think.

so any suggestions for projects aiming to build a distributed and parallel 
spatial database running on a cluster?

Thanks,
shuai
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Save the dates for FOSS4G NA 2015

[Andrew Ross]

Hello Everyone,

(cross posted to OSGeo-discuss  LocationTech-iwg)

We have a brief announcement regarding FOSS4G NA 2015 
http://42aross.wordpress.com/2014/05/07/save-the-dates-for-foss4g-north-america-2015/. 
It will be held on March 9-12, 2015 at the Hyatt Regency in Burlingame, 
California.


For what it's worth, our venue RFP was targeted at a number of cities 
including Washington D.C., San Francisco, Boston, Atlanta, Austin, and 
more. Based on the criteria including size, cost, quality, accessibility 
and related criteria, Burlingame came out the winner. It's a beautiful 
venue! Organizing is going full steam ahead... more soon.


Kind regards,

Andrew
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[Andrew Ross]

Hi Everyone,

A quick update on this.

The feedback on this has been quite positive, and we will be proceeding 
to organize the event. The City, Venue, and Dates will be announced as 
soon as possible.


We have received responses to our RFP from venues in D.C., Austin, 
Boston, San Francisco, Atlanta, and a few other cities.


I would like to thank David Bitner  Eddie Pickle, chairs of the past 
two FOSS4G NA's for joining the 2015 conference planning committee. 
Also, thank you to Robert Cheetham who has joined the team as well. We 
anticipate 2 or 3 more people to join the team in the coming weeks. This 
committee will help us plan an outstanding event.


We will be forming a program committee who will review and select 
presentation proposals. More on that soon.


As always, feedback  suggestions are welcome.

Cheers!

Andrew

On 04/04/14 17:02, Andrew Ross wrote:

Hello Everyone,

Please excuse the cross post between OSGeo's discuss  conference_dev 
lists as well as LocationTech's discussion list. I'm hoping to enable 
inclusive discussion about an idea.


Bit of background, this coming May (19-21), LocationTech Summit is 
co-hosted with Location Intelligence in Washington D.C. 
http://www.locationintelligence.net/. Travel restrictions for 
Federal Government employees for instance meant holding this in D.C. 
was important in 2014.


We have started planning for 2015, and I wanted to reach out and see 
if an idea might be of interest to the greater community.


The idea is to co-host LocationTech Summit, FOSS4G North America, and 
EclipseCon next year in the spring.


For those that haven't been:

  * EclipseCon is a great  developer conference  covers topics that I
feel may be a really nice complement such as Science, Internet of
Things, Automotive, Software development best practice, and more.
While there are some awesome talks in the area, it's not just
about the IDE. :-)
  * FOSS4G NA is the regional sibling of FOSS4G Global, also a great
developer conference, and focused on geospatial technologies. It
is a must attend event if you're into web mapping or looking for
open source GIS solutions.
  * LocationTech Summit is new (first one this May), similar to FOSS4G
however perhaps has a stronger focus on high performance
geoprocessing technologies and new technologies like GeoGit for
instance.
  * My feeble attempt at contrast aside, I think these last two will
see a lot of the same speakers  audience.

A few thoughts:

  * We believe a combined event could likely be done to prioritize
camaraderie which is so important for open source projects 
community. i.e. avoid anyone feeling lost in a huge event.
  * We feel the mutual outreach to people across communities would be
really useful, interesting, and spark wonderful ideas we can't
predict.
  * The logistical work can be done by full time conference organizers
who organize EclipseCon each year. The program is up to the
communities to set.
  * For those seeking suppliers, partners,  customers, this should
make for more opportunities.
  * Profit sharing with significant participating groups is doable.
We're glad to help figure out a fair and amicable solution.
  * Ensuring each group are well served is a priority of course. We
think this combined event might attract people who might not
otherwise come to any of them. But we'll have to try and see.

Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions? Is this a good idea? Interested?

Kind regards,

Andrew



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[Andrew Ross]

Forwarding for David. He mentioned he wasn't allowed to email these two 
lists. Most likely he's not subscribed.


 Original Message 
Subject:Re: [location-iwg] [OSGeo-Discuss] 2015 North American 
conference
Date:   Tue, 8 Apr 2014 16:06:05 -0400
From:   David Dubovsky ddubov...@boundlessgeo.com
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Andrew,

I echo David's appreciation for stepping up to take this on. My 
organization (Boundless) sees a lot of benefit to a co-hosted event, 
potentially raising the profile of FOSS4G significantly.


I did have a few thoughts on location. Before 2015 there will have been 
five FOSS4G Events in North America:


2007: FOSS4G Victoria
2011: FOSS4G Denver
2012: FOSS4G-NA Washington DC
2013: FOSS4G-NA Minneapolis
2014: FOSS4G Portland

Given the distribution it looks like FOSS4G is due for an east coast 
event. I know DC would work out, but we did have the first NA event 
there. I'd like to float the idea of having the event in Philadelphia. 
It has a major airport and is easily accessible by train. DC and NYC 
attendees can easily come for one or multiple days via amtrak. I don't 
think travel restrictions would be too bad for Philly either.


That said I defer to those more familiar with the city and the other 
conferences.


David

David Dubovsky

Marketing Manager |Boundless

ddubov...@boundlessgeo.com mailto:ddubov...@boundlessgeo.com

917-460-7204

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On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Andrew Ross andrew.r...@eclipse.org 
mailto:andrew.r...@eclipse.org wrote:


   David,

   Thank you. Our team is always glad to support the ecosystem.

   Personally, I'm jazzed at the potential and looking forward to
   having a lot of fun with this.

   You're spot-on. We recognize the branding is a crucial bit of this.
   It's not simple, but I think we should be able to figure out a way
   to do it that works for everyone. For those that have ideas or want
   to participate, please speak up ASAP.

   Cheers!

   Andrew

   On 07/04/14 13:50, David William Bitner wrote:

Andrew,

First of all, thank you for stepping up as willing to take on
FOSS4G NA 2015.

Having made two calls to the broader community over the last
several months looking for folks to express interest in hosting
the NA event for 2015 with no response, I am excited to see
someone with your experience stepping forward. Unless this thread
spurs on another bid, at this point, I would not envision
necessity for a competitive bid for this event.

I think that co-hosting the event with Eclipse and LocationTech
can both help boost the profile and the make this event
logistically easier. I think the most critical piece in joining
these events this year will be in making sure that we can keep the
FOSS4G and OSGeo branding prominent.

Keep in mind as well (anyone else here too that might want to
provide a competing bid!), that we have earmarked ~$20K from the
Minneapolis event to help bootstrap a 2015 NA FOSS4G.

David




On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Andrew Ross
andrew.r...@eclipse.org mailto:andrew.r...@eclipse.org wrote:

Hello Everyone,

Please excuse the cross post between OSGeo's discuss 
conference_dev lists as well as LocationTech's discussion
list. I'm hoping to enable inclusive discussion about an idea.

Bit of background, this coming May (19-21), LocationTech
Summit is co-hosted with Location Intelligence in Washington
D.C. http://www.locationintelligence.net/. Travel
restrictions for Federal Government employees for instance
meant holding this in D.C. was important in 2014.

We have started planning for 2015, and I wanted to reach out
and see if an idea might be of interest to the greater community.

The idea is to co-host LocationTech Summit, FOSS4G North
America, and EclipseCon next year in the spring.

For those that haven't been:

  * EclipseCon is a great  developer conference  covers
topics that I feel may be a really nice complement such as
Science, Internet of Things, Automotive, Software
development best practice, and more. While there are some
awesome talks in the area, it's not just about the IDE. :-)
  * FOSS4G NA is the regional sibling of FOSS4G Global, also a
great developer conference, and focused on geospatial
technologies. It is a must attend event if you're into web
mapping or looking for open source GIS solutions.
  * LocationTech Summit is new (first one this May), similar
to FOSS4G however perhaps has a stronger

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 2015 North American conference

[Andrew Ross]

Hi Tom,

Sorry, not yet. We're doing venue RFP's in a number of cities for 
between mid-March  mid-April.


Naturally we're looking to avoid Easter  as best we can avoid march 
break, which isn't easy.


Andrew

On 07/04/14 15:07, T M wrote:

Andrew

I know it is far away, but do you have possible dates for the 
conference? I usually attend another conference at the end of April, 
so I was just wondering if it will conflict


Thanks
Tom Mueller


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David,

Thank you. Our team is always glad to support the ecosystem.

Personally, I'm jazzed at the potential and looking forward to having 
a lot of fun with this.


You're spot-on. We recognize the branding is a crucial bit of this. 
It's not simple, but I think we should be able to figure out a way to 
do it that works for everyone. For those that have ideas or want to 
participate, please speak up ASAP.


Cheers!

Andrew

On 07/04/14 13:50, David William Bitner wrote:

Andrew,

First of all, thank you for stepping up as willing to take on FOSS4G 
NA 2015.


Having made two calls to the broader community over the last several 
months looking for folks to express interest in hosting the NA event 
for 2015 with no response, I am excited to see someone with your 
experience stepping forward. Unless this thread spurs on another bid, 
at this point, I would not envision necessity for a competitive bid 
for this event.


I think that co-hosting the event with Eclipse and LocationTech can 
both help boost the profile and the make this event logistically 
easier. I think the most critical piece in joining these events this 
year will be in making sure that we can keep the FOSS4G and OSGeo 
branding prominent.


Keep in mind as well (anyone else here too that might want to provide 
a competing bid!), that we have earmarked ~$20K from the Minneapolis 
event to help bootstrap a 2015 NA FOSS4G.


David




On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Andrew Ross andrew.r...@eclipse.org 
javascript:return wrote:


Hello Everyone,

Please excuse the cross post between OSGeo's discuss 
conference_dev lists as well as LocationTech's discussion list.
I'm hoping to enable inclusive discussion about an idea.

Bit of background, this coming May (19-21), LocationTech Summit
is co-hosted with Location Intelligence in Washington D.C.
http://www.locationintelligence.net/. Travel restrictions for
Federal Government employees for instance meant holding this in
D.C. was important in 2014.

We have started planning for 2015, and I wanted to reach out and
see if an idea might be of interest to the greater community.

The idea is to co-host LocationTech Summit, FOSS4G North America,
and EclipseCon next year in the spring.

For those that haven't been:

  * EclipseCon is a great  developer conference  covers topics
that I feel may be a really nice complement such as Science,
Internet of Things, Automotive, Software development best
practice, and more. While there are some awesome talks in the
area, it's not just about the IDE. :-)
  * FOSS4G NA is the regional sibling of FOSS4G Global, also a
great developer conference, and focused on geospatial
technologies. It is a must attend event if you're into web
mapping or looking for open source GIS solutions.
  * LocationTech Summit is new (first one this May), similar to
FOSS4G however perhaps has a stronger focus on high
performance geoprocessing technologies and new technologies
like GeoGit for instance.
  * My feeble attempt at contrast aside, I think these last two
will see a lot of the same speakers  audience.

A few thoughts:

  * We believe a combined event could likely be done to
prioritize camaraderie which is so important for open source
projects  community. i.e. avoid anyone feeling lost in a
huge event.
  * We feel the mutual outreach to people across communities
would be really useful, interesting, and spark wonderful
ideas we can't predict.
  * The logistical work can be done by full time conference
organizers who organize EclipseCon each year. The program is
up to the communities to set.
  * For those seeking suppliers, partners,  customers, this
should make for more opportunities.
  * Profit sharing with significant participating groups is
doable. We're glad to help figure out a fair and amicable
solution

[OSGeo-Discuss] 2015 North American conference

[Andrew Ross]

Hello Everyone,

Please excuse the cross post between OSGeo's discuss  conference_dev 
lists as well as LocationTech's discussion list. I'm hoping to enable 
inclusive discussion about an idea.


Bit of background, this coming May (19-21), LocationTech Summit is 
co-hosted with Location Intelligence in Washington D.C. 
http://www.locationintelligence.net/. Travel restrictions for Federal 
Government employees for instance meant holding this in D.C. was 
important in 2014.


We have started planning for 2015, and I wanted to reach out and see if 
an idea might be of interest to the greater community.


The idea is to co-host LocationTech Summit, FOSS4G North America, and 
EclipseCon next year in the spring.


For those that haven't been:

 * EclipseCon is a great  developer conference  covers topics that I
   feel may be a really nice complement such as Science, Internet of
   Things, Automotive, Software development best practice, and more.
   While there are some awesome talks in the area, it's not just about
   the IDE. :-)
 * FOSS4G NA is the regional sibling of FOSS4G Global, also a great
   developer conference, and focused on geospatial technologies. It is
   a must attend event if you're into web mapping or looking for open
   source GIS solutions.
 * LocationTech Summit is new (first one this May), similar to FOSS4G
   however perhaps has a stronger focus on high performance
   geoprocessing technologies and new technologies like GeoGit for
   instance.
 * My feeble attempt at contrast aside, I think these last two will see
   a lot of the same speakers  audience.

A few thoughts:

 * We believe a combined event could likely be done to prioritize
   camaraderie which is so important for open source projects 
   community. i.e. avoid anyone feeling lost in a huge event.
 * We feel the mutual outreach to people across communities would be
   really useful, interesting, and spark wonderful ideas we can't predict.
 * The logistical work can be done by full time conference organizers
   who organize EclipseCon each year. The program is up to the
   communities to set.
 * For those seeking suppliers, partners,  customers, this should make
   for more opportunities.
 * Profit sharing with significant participating groups is doable.
   We're glad to help figure out a fair and amicable solution.
 * Ensuring each group are well served is a priority of course. We
   think this combined event might attract people who might not
   otherwise come to any of them. But we'll have to try and see.

Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions? Is this a good idea? Interested?

Kind regards,

Andrew

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[Andrew Ross]

Alex,

Thanks so much for taking the time to consider this idea  provide your 
thoughts.


Yeah, I agree with you about the common interest  this was the basis of 
reaching out.


I do think developing areas at Eclipse such as the IoT working group 
focusing on sensors, actuators, and gateways share significant interest. 
The new Science working group too.


While some folks probably don't care enough to go to a conference just 
for the tools/development stuff, if it's available for them to pick what 
they like to attend for no added cost, that might  be seen as pretty handy.


And I think the inverse is important... expose mainstream IT to 
geospatial as much as possible. This is a nice way to do a bit of that.


Stating the obvious: It is a tremendous amount of work to organize a 
conference. One event saves effort and cost. More importantly, it helps 
avoid having to make tough choices between multiple events.


You made great points in your other email about moving around for 
outreach. I agree. Also, for what it's worth, a tour to a bunch of 
cities like LocationTech did last November helps reach a lot of people. 
There's another one being planned for this year and people are invited 
to get involved if they'd like.


Thanks again! I'd love to hear what others think too. I anticipate there 
will be some really important things that need to be just right for this 
to make sense so glad to talk about them.


Andrew

On 04/04/14 17:31, Alex Mandel wrote:

II agree that Foss4g and LocationTech share interest and that separately
LocationTech and EclipseCon share interest.

However the jump from Foss4g to EclipseCon is only a small overlap of
the communities.

This statement doesn't really differentiate LocationTech from Foss4g for me:
...however perhaps has a stronger focus on high performance
 geoprocessing technologies and new technologies like GeoGit for
 instance.
Plenty of Foss4g is interested in those topics. I see nothing in
LocationTech that isn't also part of Foss4g conceptually. Just a focus
on the Eclipse community for implementation methods.

Perhaps LocationTech should split itself and partake in both things
separately. e.g. LocationTech tracks and submeetings at each conference?


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] project not found in list

[Andrew Ross]

Jeff,

For what it's worth, people participate in a wide variety of communities and 
have for sometime. The world is diverse with plenty of room for all. We're 
seeing some good cross community support and initiatives, which is great. It 
might make sense to encourage it and celebrate it to nurture more.

To overreach and lay claim to it demonstrates Adrian's point with little truly 
gained.

A rising tide raises all boats.

Andrew


Jeff McKenna jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com wrote:

Hi Adrian, comments below:

On 2013-05-19 11:50 PM, Adrian Custer wrote:
 
 
 Yes, OSGeo has been primarily focused on its own projects and
 historically has been weak at recognizing and promoting other
efforts.
 
 Now that spatial has become ubiquitous it is more obvious that there
is
 great work going on in lots of different places. The R statistical
 library, for example, has done a huge amount of work on spatial
analysis
 over the past decade but does not get mentioned much. More recently,
the
 Eclipse foundation has started a major push as well and there are
many
 new projects online.
 
 OSGeo is one player among many others and is slowly being forced to
 recognize that. OSGeo might eventually change from seeing its role as
 promoting itself and its projects to taking on an expanded role of
 promoting all the geospatial software that provides its users with
 various freedoms. Unfortunately, the organization has been structured
 around insiders and outsiders in its membership and its projects so
that
 split has become a deep part of its psyche---it will be hard for
OSGeo
 to complete such a change though many are willing.
 
 

I must say, having spoken to you face-to-face about this at FOSS4G-BA
helps me understand your points.  You make very good points.  However
it
is clear that OSGeo has become *the* voice for Open Source geospatial;
look at how OSGeo was/is involved in the recent OGC standards
discussion
(even you came into the discussions with OSGeo, when you could have
done
this through any other group), and also take a look at the proposals
for
the 2014 FOSS4G event, OSGeo's flagship event (there are proposal teams
from the groups you mentioned above).

What does this tell us?  It tells us that yes there are many groups out
there in the geospatial world, but, through the hard work of the OSGeo
community since 2006, OSGeo has become the leader in Open Source
geospatial today, and the other groups realize this.

I personally will take what you mentioned in this email (which you told
me to my face at FOSS4G-BA) and adapt my message to promote other
groups
as well, but, it is clear to me that we/OSGeo does have a strong voice
in the geospatial world.

-jeff







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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] OSGeo and LocationTech

[Andrew Ross]

On 09/08/2012 04:38 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
Andrew, I'm moving this conversation over to OSGeo Discuss list so 
that it has the opportunity for wider discussion.

Thank you Cameron. And hello everyone.


Extracting from a conversation on the board email list ...

On 09/09/12 00:25, Andrew Ross wrote:
If there is a close relationship between OSGeo  LocationTech, say 
where there is a natural progression of projects into OSGeo and then 
to LocationTech as they mature and look for corporate adoption  
contributions, the Steering Committee may see good value in financial 
support. We are creating a program modelled after Friends of Eclipse 
which enables individual sponsorship for a modest amount. This 
program is designed to raise funds explicitly for the community. A 
close relationship with OSGeo helping to direct those funds might 
make a lot of sense.


These are things going on at LocationTech in any case. Maybe they 
make sense to get involved with or perhaps not. I'm glad to discuss 
if there's potential.


Andrew, I'd like to suggest extending your thought to suggest that 
projects can be members of OSGeo AND LocationTech rather than 
OSGeo OR LocationTech. Any reason why that wouldn't work?



Yes, at this point it looks like this can work fine.

A project needs to comply with governance/requirements be it those of 
OSGeo or LocationTech. There is much overlap in this regard. In terms of 
difference, LocationTech appears to have more rigour in terms of code 
provenance, digging through prerequisites to detect potentially 
undesirable licensing issues, trademark search, and such. The bill of 
good health that results is seen as desirable by many companies when 
considering reuse  investment in the project.


Andrew
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] OSGeo and LocationTech

[Andrew Ross]

Hi Cameron, Michael, All

Yes that makes good sense, will likely yield tangible benefits. I'm in.

I note that Jody Garnett is chair of the incubation Committee and also 
on the Project Management Committee (PMC) @ LocationTech. (added to /cc)


Andrew

On 09/10/2012 04:26 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:

Andrew,
I suggest that the next steps would be to do a gap analysis between 
OSGeo incubation processes and LT incubation processes.

This gap analysis will likely lead to:

* Merging of both OSGeo and LT processes to pick up the best points of 
each.
* Identification of the differences, followed by a process describing 
the migration path from one to the other.


Andrew, is this something you are interested to pursue, possibly in 
conjunction with the incubation committee?


On 11/09/2012 12:51 AM, Michael P. Gerlek wrote:

Cameron:

There's no reason a project can't play in both LT and OSGeo spheres, 
and indeed proposed a motion to that effect some months ago now.


However, it proved very controversial among some members of our 
community and I didn't feel it worth fighting at the time. Perhaps 
more pragmatic heads will prevail as LT gets further along.


-mpg



On Sep 10, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Andrew Ross andrew.r...@eclipse.org 
wrote:



On 09/08/2012 04:38 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
Andrew, I'm moving this conversation over to OSGeo Discuss list so 
that it has the opportunity for wider discussion.

Thank you Cameron. And hello everyone.

Extracting from a conversation on the board email list ...

On 09/09/12 00:25, Andrew Ross wrote:
If there is a close relationship between OSGeo  LocationTech, say 
where there is a natural progression of projects into OSGeo and 
then to LocationTech as they mature and look for corporate 
adoption  contributions, the Steering Committee may see good 
value in financial support. We are creating a program modelled 
after Friends of Eclipse which enables individual sponsorship for 
a modest amount. This program is designed to raise funds 
explicitly for the community. A close relationship with OSGeo 
helping to direct those funds might make a lot of sense.


These are things going on at LocationTech in any case. Maybe they 
make sense to get involved with or perhaps not. I'm glad to 
discuss if there's potential.
Andrew, I'd like to suggest extending your thought to suggest that 
projects can be members of OSGeo AND LocationTech rather than 
OSGeo OR LocationTech. Any reason why that wouldn't work?



Yes, at this point it looks like this can work fine.

A project needs to comply with governance/requirements be it those 
of OSGeo or LocationTech. There is much overlap in this regard. In 
terms of difference, LocationTech appears to have more rigour in 
terms of code provenance, digging through prerequisites to detect 
potentially undesirable licensing issues, trademark search, and 
such. The bill of good health that results is seen as desirable by 
many companies when considering reuse  investment in the project.


Andrew


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

[Andrew Ross]

On 07/27/2012 10:27 AM, Seven (aka Arnulf) wrote:

On 07/27/2012 11:45 AM, Mateusz Loskot wrote:

On 27 July 2012 05:55, Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.com wrote:

This is a really interesting debate. Reading the links provided it also
appears to be a mixed bag about acceptance of LGPL of various firms and
I'm also sure many of us can name firms that have no issue shipping LGPL
components.

GPL is dying, of natural causes.

http://ostatic.com/blog/the-top-licenses-on-github

Best regards,


Another interesting effect is the growing interest of other
organizations in geospatial software, currently mainly on the library
side of things. Current example is GeoTools and GeoToolKit and Eclipse
and Apache respectively. It seems that this is a natural result of the
commoditization of geospatial functions and features and their
dissemination into standard IT. In coming years we will see less and
less distinguishable and openly competing geospatial projects but more
and more geospatial tools become a regular part of software
distributions. We have already seen this happen in a way with GDAL/OGR
which is being used all over the place. Just like Oracle has a WMS
viewer built in installing PostgreSQL already has PostGIS - and may
eventually also ship with MapServer and FeatureServer (or whatever makes
the race) and there is no more need for a separate installation /
configuration. Not sure where this leads us and this is just off the top
of my head, but might be interesting to have a conversation about anyway.

Cheers,
Arnulf



Arnulf,

I think you may be right about geospatial software moving into main 
stream IT. Frankly when you see big software companies like Microsoft, 
IBM, Apple, Oracle, and others in the space then it's a good hint the 
shift is well under way.


The other powerful trend is pragmatic embracing of open source on the 
part of companies. When companies like Microsoft, ESRI, and others - 
long known for strong proprietary views - are working hard to embrace 
open source then it's clear something significant is taking place.


As companies want a closer relationship with open source projects and 
vice versa, LocationTech http://wiki.eclipse.org/LocationTech is a 
strong option given Eclipse's governance + history  the people involved.


Related, for those that haven't caught it already, see this article:
http://radar.oreilly.com/2012/07/open-source-won.html

Andrew


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

[Andrew Ross]

On 07/27/2012 12:55 AM, Alex Mandel wrote:

3.You can also re-license the finished product under a commercial
license of your choice this seems to be the biggest difference with
LGPL. But there's also another big difference, and EPL program is
incompatible with all other OS licenses
http://www.eclipse.org/legal/eplfaq.php#USEINANOTHER
So it's more restrictive than BSD, MIT, Apache, etc...

Alex,

[snipped to break out this particular thought]

This is best illustrated with a use case. GeoServer uses EPL code hosted 
at Eclipse today. GeoServer is licensed under the GPL. GPL is 
incompatible with the EPL since both clauses cannot be true at the same 
time. This was addressed by GeoServer issuing a GPL exception for the 
EPL software it consumed. So the choice whether GeoServer wanted to 
consume EPL code was theirs.


You're right though... BSD, MIT, Apache wouldn't have this issue - at 
the expense of not having the weak copyleft. Basically people can take 
the code and do what they wish with it.


A project can decide what makes the most sense for them. I'm guessing 
that projects that chose LGPL (or GPL for that matter) did so in part 
because of the copyleft.


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Boad of Director Nomination: Daniel Morissette

[Andrew Ross]

On 07/27/2012 05:43 AM, Anne Ghisla wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:21 -0400
Mark Lucas mluca...@mac.com wrote:


I would like to second the nomination for Daniel.  After having had
the pleasure of working with him on the current board, I frankly
can't imagine how we would function without him.  He is always a
voice of reason and he has taken ownership of managing all of the
financial tracking and planning that has made us successful.

Well said, Mark. Let me also second Daniel's nomination!

Anne
Not that it's necessary, but I would also like to support Daniel's 
nomination. I've had the pleasure of working with Daniel as well and 
agree wholeheartedly with Mark  Arnulf.



Mark


On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Daniel Morissette
dmorisse...@mapgears.com wrote:


Thank you very much Arnulf for such a nice nomination. It would be
hard for me to not accept after reading it.  :)

I'd be happy to serve on the board for another term, presumably to
continue the job started as treasurer in the last year (or to help
transition it to someone else if there is a taker), and also and
most importantly to continue to help bridge the gap between the
local chapters communities and OSGeo Global. The growing number
of local chapters and local events shows how important they are to
help spread the OSGeo vision to local and non-English speaking
communities.

I am very happy to see a few nominees from outside North America
already... please keep them coming as I think this is a great sign
and can only help make OSGeo even more international. Some
continents/regions are not represented yet in the list of nominees.
It would be awesome of we had at least one candidate from each
continent/region.

Daniel

On 12-07-25 1:18 PM, Seven (aka Arnulf) wrote:

Dear OSGeo Community, Charter Members,
I want to nominate Daniel Morissette for the OSGeo board of
directors.

I have been working with Daniel for many years and he is one of
the most trustworthy and consistently productive people I know. He
has always proven to be highly sensitive to community related
aspects and has an international outlook, combined with very good
English skills. This makes him a good mediator between different
regions and cultures, a regularly upcoming issue in our community.
This would already make him an invaluable member of the board of
directors. But this is not enough, on top of this he also tends to
the irksome job of treasurer and has toiled through many
down-to-earth tasks that an organization of our size requires to
get done. He is also an integral part of the Franco-Canadian local
community and a relentless contributor to the MapServer project.

It would be silly to not squeeze some more out of him if he so
friendly asks for it.

Thank you,
Arnulf



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

[Andrew Ross]

Landon,

For what it's worth...

I eagerly read that link you provided. It represents one end of the 
spectrum for values and principles in terms of open source. I believe 
it's fair to say that end of the spectrum is fairly staunch and 
recognized by some as radical and even marginalizing.


I believe there's plenty of room in the world for people who believe 
strongly in such messages, but I do feel personally this type of dogma 
seems a bit out of date and probably no longer as necessary.


The opportunity is for projects  companies partner and work together in 
harmony. For projects that are interested, there's help available. For 
those that don't want it, that's OK too.


Andrew


On 07/27/2012 10:05 AM, Landon Blake wrote:

FYI: I release all of the code for my projects under the GPL and LGPL,
and have no plans on switching for my projects. So the licenses aren't
dead quite yet. :]

I think there is a tradeoff in the licensing decision between the
greater adoption that comes with a weaker license, and the stricter
adherence to open source principles that come with a stronger
license. (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-not-lgpl.html)

I'm not making a statement about which license is better for OSGeo
Projects, I'm just making a general statement. I personally feel the
principles in the GPL and LGPL are more important than wider adoption
for my projects. But I'm just a hobby programmer.

There is one more thing to think about before changing the license on
a project. There may be programmers that favor contributions to
projects licensed under the GPL/LGPL, and consider a project's license
when determining where to dedicate their resources. I know OSGeo has
the right to change the licensing, but I believe there should be a
very strong case for doing so. It is, to a certain extent, changing
the rules after the game has started.

Landon




On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Mr. Puneet Kishor punk.k...@gmail.com wrote:

On Jul 27, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Andrew Ross andrew.r...@eclipse.org wrote:


BSD, MIT, Apache wouldn't have this issue - at the expense of not having the 
weak copyleft. Basically people can take the code and do what they wish with it.


+1


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

[Andrew Ross]

On 27 July 2012 18:43, Markus Neteler nete...@osgeo.org wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Andrew Ross andrew.r...@eclipse.org
 wrote:
 ...
  A project can decide what makes the most sense for them.

 Note that for long-term projects a license change
 is rather difficult to realize (especially if older contributors
 are no longer traceable..).

 Markus


Markus,

Agreed. This is one of many reasons why this discussion is so important,
even if we'd rather be drinking beer. ;-)

If you think you might ever consider re-licensing your project, then it's
not a bad idea to consider contribution agreements. They can make the
process to re-license, should you ever decide to, a lot less pain  effort.

I hope that it isn't lost in the discussion that it really isn't about a
given license winning or dying even if that's interesting to data junkies
like us. It's about the project's goals, and hopefully reducing friction
towards achieving them.


Andrew
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Future perspectives for OSGeo

[Andrew Ross]

Thank you for starting this discussion Arnulf.

I suspect there are going to be some people here that are extremely
familiar with Eclipse, and others not at all. For this reason I felt it
would be a good idea to share a little information.

Eclipse is an ecosystem of organizations and open source technology
projects. The organizations and projects @ Eclipse have symbiotic
relationships creating an elegant balance which benefits both. There are
currently over two hundred projects at Eclipse and a similar number of
member organizations. The organizations are all sorts of shapes and sizes.
There's roughly a thousand committers from all around the world.

There are many things that make this ecosystem interesting. One especially
notable one is seeing organizations collaborate around open source projects
and compete in the marketplace. The governance model at Eclipse is designed
to create a level playing field between large  small and has done so
successfully for a number of years now. The value for members has meant
valuable support for projects which is great.

There foundation has 15 staff
membershttp://www.eclipse.org/org/foundation/staff.phpincluding
myself covering accounting, legal, IT, marketing, business
development, event planning, release engineering, administrative support
for projects, and many other functions. This doesn't mean volunteers don't
have a significant role and influence. Many great initiatives such as our
push to git, gerrit, hudson, etc. have been driven by the community and
then maintained as well managed services by staff.

There's a lot of Java projects at Eclipse given the history of how it got
started. In more recent times projects have joined/are joining implemented
in all sorts of languages and aimed at a variety of different industries.
The Orion http://www.eclipse.org/orion/ web IDE, based on Javascript is a
really cool example. For what it's worth, the Eclipse Foundation is vendor
neutral and welcoming to projects implemented in any language, just like
OSGeo, which is what you'd expect.

Trying not to overload with too much information, the Location industry
working group http://wiki.eclipse.org/Location is forming and closely
related to this. It has some great people  organizations involved already
if you'd like to check it out. Many of us are involved with both OSGeo 
the industry working group and want to see good things happen. It's early
enough and the model is such that those that are interested can get
involved and help shape it.

Best regards,

Andrew
(andrew dot ross at eclipse dot org = my other email)


On 2 May 2012 13:04, Arnulf Christl (OSGeo) arn...@osgeo.org wrote:

 Folks,
 the OSGeo board of directors has been working hard on finding ways
 forward in those areas where we do not perform well. These are
 especially on the business side of things. Our annual revenue has come
 down considerably in the last years and we seem to lack high level
 contacts to global players. Without the single sponsor Autodesk we
 honestly wouldn't be where we are now but they have considerably reduced
 their focused on geospatial.

 We see new opportunities by starting joint activities with the Eclipse
 foundation - which is in the process of spawning activities explicitly
 focused on geospatial. They have lots of high level contacts but lack a
 noteworthy community. This is where we in turn did exceptionally well,
 we are perceived as *the* global voice for open source geospatial.

 In between the community and business work (if we take them as extremes)
 is a long range of things we did well and not so well and obviously
 everybody will have their own opinion. If you are interested in learning
 more about what the board is thinking and want to share your ideas I
 suggest you subscribe to the board list and become active there. (Please
 refrain from telling us you must be doing this and that but reckon
 that whatever will happen does so because you also commit to actually
 doing it).

 Once we come to a more coherent point of view we will again share it
 with this discussion list but for now would like to keep it at the
 strategically interested level of things, just as open as all in OSGeo
 - but not cluttering the Discuss list.

 The board will start to post a few threads in the next days summarizing
 the thoughts shared so far.


 Best regards,
 Arnulf

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Nomination - Andrew Ross

[Andrew Ross]

Thank you for the nomination Dave.

I'm a simply guy. Top of my mind is working smart and working hard on
creating financial prosperity for OSGeo and its ecosystem. With prosperity,
much goodness such as great events, great technology development, thriving
camaraderie and more is enhanced. Without it things become very hard and may
not last.

Thank you in advance for those considering voting for me.

Andrew

On 4 August 2011 23:02, Dave McIlhagga dmcilha...@dmsolutions.ca wrote:

 I would like to nominate Andrew Ross for a position on the OSGeo Board.

 Andrew brings a balanced mix of valuable technical and business skills
 which make him a great choice to become an OSGeo board member. His
 experience spans private, public, and academic organizations. He has been
 involved with OSGeo for five years, and has been a charter member of OSGeo
 for the past 3 years. In this time he has demonstrated considerable
 commitment to OSGeo, its projects, and organizations in the OSGeo ecosystem.

 This list represents some of Andrew's experience and qualifications and
 experience relevant to his nomination:

 - Founder of FOSSLC (http://fosslc.org) - a non-profit organization
 dedicated to education and business development with open source
 technologies
 - Director of Ecosystems at the Eclipse Foundation
 - Ingres' Director of Engineering ( Geospatial Technology)
   - The development team at Ingres under his leadership contributed to
 OSGeo projects including GEOS, GDAL/OGR, Proj.4, and others.
   - He arranged considerable financial support for OSGeo from Ingres, both
 direct (cash  code contributions) and indirect (contracting people to make
 contributions to OSGeo projects).
 - Project founder, committer/architect for the open source video recording
  streaming suite called Freeseer
 - Organized multiple OSGeo related events including Geocamp 2008,
 Summercamp 2009, and a number of bootcamps.
 - Organized teams to record videos for past OSGeo events including
 FOSS4G2009, Rendez-Vous OSGeo Quebec, and more.
 - Mentor for dozens of programming interns as part of the Google Summer of
 Code, Talent First Network, UCOSP, and other student programs.
 - Teaching Programming using open source technologies at Carleton
 University since 2006
 - 7 years experience as an architect and software developer at Nortel
 creating carrier grade products and services based on open source code
 - Very active member of the Ottawa OSGeo Chapter

 In addition to his considerable personal experience, Andrew's work with the
 Eclipse Foundation, FOSSLC, and other organizations provides access to an
 enormous amount of experience, specialized skills, and a wealth of contacts.
 His addition to the board would create even more opportunities for
 technology sharing/development and valuable business development.

 Thanks,
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[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G videos (re: Database talks, etc.)

[Andrew Ross]

Sorry for the resend.

As per Cameron's email noting that the database talks were high on the list
of talks people wanted to see pre-conference... interestingly, database
talks account for 3 of the top 5 most watched videos from FOSS4G. Simon,
your talk is in that list. Paul's PostGIS talk was the runaway leader in
views with 3 times the number of views vs. the second most watched video.

For those that missed them, Videos from FOSS4G2009 and more are available
under the OSGeo category here:
http://www.fosslc.org/drupal/category/community/osgeo

Andrew
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] GDAL and ESRI

[Andrew Ross]

Hi All,

Adding to this discussion, there are a spectrum of open source licenses
measured in terms of what they allow to derivative works. At one end of the
spectrum, the GPL stipulates that if you base your software on a component
that is licensed with the GPL license *and* distribute it, that derivative
work must be licensed under the GPL license.

On the other end of the spectrum, there are licenses that are very liberal
in terms of what they allow - BSD and MIT are good examples of this. Reusing
a component licensed under the BSD or MIT license does affect a derivative
work.

In terms of the GPL, distribution is a key. If you do not distribute your
derivative work, then it does not become GPL. An example of this would be
strictly in-house use, or developing a web based service. The exception, be
aware there is a different class of the GPL, the Affero GPL that applies in
the case of web services. With this license, you do not have to redistribute
to trigger the GPL contamination - building a web service is enough to do
so.

There's a good video on what you should look out for and relative merits of
various licenses here: http://www.fosslc.org/drupal/node/523 The 3 licenses
discussed in this video are at opposite ends and roughly in the middle of
the above spectrum.

Andrew

2009/11/7 Yves Jacolin (free) yjaco...@free.fr

 Le samedi 07 novembre 2009, Ravi a écrit :
  How come ESRI uses GDAL too, does open source support closed source too.

 Hi,

 It depends the OS Licence. GDAL licence is BSD-Like  [1].

 Some other are usinng GPL-LIKe licence. This kind of licence does not allow
 closed source to user open source licence. They need to open their source
 using a GPL-Like licence [2].

 This is quiet complicated ;)

 Y.
 [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_licenses
 [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Videos from FOSS4G2009 posted

[Andrew Ross]

Hi Everyone,

First, let me thank Chuck Thibert, Scott Mitchell, and Alex Djioev. Their
dedication as volunteers to record the talks at FOSS4G2009 has made this
possible. Thank you so much guys, you were an absolute pleasure to work with
and it was nice to have people you could have absolute faith in doing the
recording.

Thank you to Thanh Ha for developing the capture software. It is 100% open
source based in case anyone is interested and would like to check it out.

Also, I'd like to thank Daniel, Steve and the I.T.  A/V teams for making
our jobs easy. We've done a lot of events and this was clearly the best in
terms of A/V setup and know-how. Nice job and very impressive!

Last but not least, thank you to Cameron for having faith and pushing
through with letting FOSSLC record the talks. We both got a few more grey
hairs no doubt but we came out with good results and a few laughs along the
way. ;-)


OK, so what is the fuss about? For those of you that could not make it to
FOSS4G2009, or perhaps those that missed talks from another room due to
conflict, there's a decent chance we have the talk you're looking for.
PLEASE NOTE: We did not get enough volunteers to staff all 5 rooms every
day.. Typically we recorded 3 or 4 rooms per day. Thus there are a number of
talks we're missing. Despite this, there are still over a hundred talks
recorded including the audio and what the speaker showed to the screen.

You can view the talks by visiting http://fosslc.org. We'll be embedding
them and posting them there a few each day. You can also view them directly
by visiting blip.tv - and visiting the fosslc channel. We hope to find
someone to help us update the event schedule page and include links to the
videos from there as that's a convenient way to browse the
talks/abstracts/speakers biographies.

The talks are licensed under the creative commons share alike + attribution
license. Thus you can embed them in any web site. We encourage you to do so.

FOSSLC 3 conferences simultaneously that week and thus there were a lot of
emails and logistics to worry about. For any speakers that did not wish
their talk to be posted, and it slipped through the cracks and is posted -
please contact me personally at aross at fosslc dot org and I will remove it
immediately. For speakers that did wish their talk to be recorded and
available and have not yet completed the release form, please do so as soon
as possible. The release form is available online here:
http://www.fosslc.org/drupal/uploads/fosslc_release_form_v5.2.pdf

Last, we humbly ask your support to allow FOSSLC to keep doing what it does
and making great open source content available on demand and support open
source communities. For those that enjoy the videos, please consider
donating $10 or more to FOSSLC. FOSSLC is an incorporated non-profit run by
volunteers and thus all proceeds go directly to recording events,
subsidizing events in developing areas, covering bandwidth and
infrastructure costs, creating internships to develop open source code, and
other activities benefiting the open source community. Even if you
registered and attended the conference, you can view talks you missed so
please consider donating. Thank you kindly in advance.

If you are interested in collaborating with FOSSLC on an event or recording
an open source event in your area, please feel free to contact events at
fosslc dot org.

Thank you,

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G: Beach Volleyball at Manly, Sydney, tomorrow

[Andrew Ross]

Hi Cameron,

Thanks for the invitation.

Chuck and I are giving serious thought to joining you. I'll confirm once
we've sorted our other activities for tomorrow.

Andrew

2009/10/16 Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@lisasoft.com

 For those of you in Sydney this weekend.

 I plan to head down to Manly Beach with my two sons (11  12), at 11:30am
 Sunday, tomorrow, to play beach volleyball or swim, with whoever wants to
 join us. Depending on the tide, we might take our skidboards with us which
 are lots of fun.

 Let me know via return email, SMS, or mobile phone if you plan to join us.

 Manly is a lovely beach, 30 minutes ferry ride from the city, which is
 worth doing by itself. There are a lot of cafes and eateries for those
 looking for lunch.

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[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2009: Looking for a few volunteers to help record FOSS4G

[Andrew Ross]

Hi Everyone,

For those in Sydney for FOSS4G. I'm looking for a handful of volunteers
willing to sit and record FOSS4G talks. For those willing to lend their
Linux (recent Fedora or Ubuntu = ideal) machine and time, I'll treat them to
dinner.

I've hauled my microphones and vga capture devices from Canada to enable
this. I couldn't bring enough computers of course thus need to appeal to the
community for help.

Please reply to me at aross at fosslc dot org if you are willing to help out
with this. I'll treat the team to dinner and a few other perks.

If you're curious about this, check out http://fosslc.org for example videos
of other events. FOSSLC has around 200 hours of videos available covering
talks related to OSGeo, Eclipse, Drupal, Perl, Python, Linux, Ruby, Ingres,
PostgreSQL, and more.

Thanks in advance,

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Board Election: Andrew Ross

[Andrew Ross]

Hi Everyone,

I have been travelling and this was the first opportunity to send this note.

I am deeply honoured to be considered for an OSGeo board position. The other
nominees are people I greatly respect and if I am worthy enough to be
elected, I look forward to working with.

My offering is a good sense and demonstrated track record for pragmatic
balance of Industry, community, academia, and government interests. I
continue to be excited by opportunities for collaboration between these four
pillars. This is both a principle and practice in my life - where I work for
an open source company, teach with open source software at a University, and
contribute heavily to the open source community.

The education piece is one that I am especially passionate about. As evident
in my work with a number of Universities, companies, non-profits, and
concerned citizens around the world resulting in significant amount of
excellent educational content made available freely from http://fosslc.org,
it is possible to be successful in this area.

Thank you in advance if I am worthy of your vote.

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[OSGeo-Discuss] OT: Toronto event: value of open source software - Thursday, April 23 @ 7pm - University of Toronto

[Andrew Ross]

Hi Everyone,
 
Please pardon the off-topic email.
 
If you can make it, we're doing a panel discussion on Thursday covering the
value of open source software. It takes place from 7pm until 9pm at 1101
Sandford Fleming building at the University of Toronto.
 
Panelists are from Redhat, IBM, Eclipse, Ingres, Mozilla, and i365. I am
chairing the panel (Ingres/fosslc/OSGeo). Details are here:
http://fosslc.org/drupal/yyz3
 
Andrew
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Summercamp/Geocamp registration - win a PS3

[Andrew Ross]

Hi Everyone,
 
Please pardon the semi-off topic email.
 
We're giving away a Playstation 3 to the 30th person who registers from the
timestamp on my blog post:
http://www.fosslc.org/drupal/node/380
 
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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geocamp2009 - Call for speakers

[Andrew Ross]

Hi Everyone,
 
We extended the call for speakers however - 32 of the roughly 40 speaking
slots are now full. Thank you kindly to those that submitted talks.
 
If you're interested in submitting a talk, I expect things will fill up in
the next couple of days.
 
Also, registration has opened - we're offering a 33% discount until March
31st.
 
Thank you,
 
Andrew

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[mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Ross
Sent: January 19, 2009 8:28 PM
To: 'OSGeo Discussions'
Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geocamp2009 - Call for speakers


Hi Everyone, 
 
It is my pleasure to announce a call for speakers for Geocamp2009. 
 
This is the 2nd annual Geocamp. This year, we've decided to expand and
invite developers and users from other communities such as Eclipse, Drupal,
Perl, Python, Ruby, and more. We hope that this stimulates cross pollination
of ideas and plenty of outreach.
 
The event will take place at Algonquin College, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada on
May 13, 14, and 15.
 
Please see details and instructions on submitting presentation proposals on
the http://fosslc.org web site:
http://www.fosslc.org/drupal/summercamp2009
 
(presentation proposals are due by midnight February 21st eastern)
 
Thank you kindly,
 
Andrew on behalf of the Summercamp/Geocamp2009 organizing team.
 
 
p.s. Anyone who's interested - there's videos from last year's event
available from the fosslc web site. Enjoy!
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for GSoC panelists

[Andrew Ross]

Hi Everyone,
 
FOSSLC (http://fosslc.org) and the University of Toronto are holding a
Google Summer of Code information session on March 31st. 

We're planning to do a panel discussion of mentors and interns from various
communities to discuss their experiences and impart knowledge to students.

It'd be great to have a dedicated OSGeo panelist. If you are interested in
participating in this session, please contact me off-list. 

See more information here:
http://fosslc.org/drupal/node/238

Thank you,

Andrew

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Geocamp2009 - Call for speakers

[Andrew Ross]

Hi Everyone, 
 
It is my pleasure to announce a call for speakers for Geocamp2009. 
 
This is the 2nd annual Geocamp. This year, we've decided to expand and
invite developers and users from other communities such as Eclipse, Drupal,
Perl, Python, Ruby, and more. We hope that this stimulates cross pollination
of ideas and plenty of outreach.
 
The event will take place at Algonquin College, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada on
May 13, 14, and 15.
 
Please see details and instructions on submitting presentation proposals on
the http://fosslc.org web site:
http://www.fosslc.org/drupal/summercamp2009
 
(presentation proposals are due by midnight February 21st eastern)
 
Thank you kindly,
 
Andrew on behalf of the Summercamp/Geocamp2009 organizing team.
 
 
p.s. Anyone who's interested - there's videos from last year's event
available from the fosslc web site. Enjoy!
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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Anyone interested in geocoding and routing?

[Andrew Ross]

Hi Everyone,
 
The mailing list is up (and also posted on the wiki pages):
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/routergeocoder
 
We decided to go with a single list given the synergies between the two
systems and overlap in those that are interested. We can always split it
later.
 
Thanks again,
 
Andrew
 
http://ingres.com
http://osbootcamp.org
 
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Hi Everyone,
 
Thank you for the great posts and discussion!
 
I'm thinking given the interest, it may be time to create a separate mailing
list for each of the OpenGeocoder and OpenRouter initiatives. If no one
disagrees, we'll do this and I'll share the lists here so people can opt-in
to the conversation. 
 
Andrew

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Thank you everyone for the great response to this post.
 
I'd like to poll everyone's thoughts regarding the appropriate next steps.
It seems to me we have good support for this initiative. 
 
It isn't as clear to me yet what the best way forward is. My instincts are
leaning towards spending time to capture requirements, identify key use
cases, and crucial standards. The thinking is that with this information
captured, we're in a better position to review the implementations available
to identify which candidates are best positioned to satisfy those needs.
 
I would like to echo Andrew Turner's comments that we're focusing on API's
that can be used offline rather than a web service. (though it's good to see
great web service projects out there!)
 
Input, thoughts, feedback are greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance,
 
Andrew

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Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Anyone interested in geocoding and routing?


 
Hi Everyone,
 
A few of us have been talking and thought the timing might be right to try
and start projects to work on Geocoding and Routing. We're still gathering
information and checking to learn who's interested.
 
If you are interested, please check out the following wiki's and add your
name in the section you are interested in. 
 
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OpenGeocoder
 
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OpenRouter
 
There are experts out there that are far more knowledgeable about Geocoding
and Routing than I am. To these good people: please feel empowered to make
modifications, provide feedback in whatever way you feel most comfortable.
 
Thanks,
 
Andrew
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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Anyone interested in geocoding and routing?

[Andrew Ross]

Thank you everyone for the great response to this post.
 
I'd like to poll everyone's thoughts regarding the appropriate next steps.
It seems to me we have good support for this initiative. 
 
It isn't as clear to me yet what the best way forward is. My instincts are
leaning towards spending time to capture requirements, identify key use
cases, and crucial standards. The thinking is that with this information
captured, we're in a better position to review the implementations available
to identify which candidates are best positioned to satisfy those needs.
 
I would like to echo Andrew Turner's comments that we're focusing on API's
that can be used offline rather than a web service. (though it's good to see
great web service projects out there!)
 
Input, thoughts, feedback are greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance,
 
Andrew

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Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Anyone interested in geocoding and routing?


 
Hi Everyone,
 
A few of us have been talking and thought the timing might be right to try
and start projects to work on Geocoding and Routing. We're still gathering
information and checking to learn who's interested.
 
If you are interested, please check out the following wiki's and add your
name in the section you are interested in. 
 
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OpenGeocoder
 
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OpenRouter
 
There are experts out there that are far more knowledgeable about Geocoding
and Routing than I am. To these good people: please feel empowered to make
modifications, provide feedback in whatever way you feel most comfortable.
 
Thanks,
 
Andrew
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Anyone interested in geocoding and routing?

[Andrew Ross]

 
Hi Everyone,
 
A few of us have been talking and thought the timing might be right to try
and start projects to work on Geocoding and Routing. We're still gathering
information and checking to learn who's interested.
 
If you are interested, please check out the following wiki's and add your
name in the section you are interested in. 
 
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OpenGeocoder
 
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OpenRouter
 
There are experts out there that are far more knowledgeable about Geocoding
and Routing than I am. To these good people: please feel empowered to make
modifications, provide feedback in whatever way you feel most comfortable.
 
Thanks,
 
Andrew
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Hello

[Andrew Ross]

Hi Everyone,
 
I am new to the list and I'd just like to take a moment to say hello to
everyone.
 
I work on the Engineering team at Ingres corporation from a home office
in Ottawa, Canada.
 
I'll try and jump into the discussions where I can participate. I'm sure
I'll inevitably be lurking a lot of the time.
 
I'm looking forward to the discussions and hopefully meeting you in the
future.
 
Thank you,

Andrew

 

 
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