On 01/09/10 10:49, TheLastMan wrote:
I have given up on the iPod dock with Aux input as an alternative, as
anything decent is about twice her budget and probably not as good
sounding. She only has an 8GB iPod, all her music is on the SBS server
anyway, and she likes to surf Napster. So she
On 20/07/10 00:09, tonyptony wrote:
When the players' digital voume control is set to max, are the digital
outs for both the Duet and the Touch (coax RCA for both) at the same
level? That is, will they produce the same volume (within .1 or .2 dB)
when fed into the same system with the same
On 30/11/09 21:29, gabe01 wrote:
Hello - I have posted in the past with a problem that my SBR light went
blue and I couldn't get everything configured correctly with UDAP. In
the end, I bought a remote controller, ran the configuration, and then
returned it =P...well, now it's happened
On 07/09/09 10:31, TKSQB wrote:
hello, I bourght a 2nd squeezebox receiver. The firts is configured with
udap_shell and I use my HP PDA. Everything works well. Now I tried to
configure the 2nd one. The night was short but it don´t works the
receiver goes to blue but don´t find the server.
On 24/08/09 20:58, grego.speiser wrote:
I have a squeezebox classic whose display stopped working last week. It
played music fine.
I called tech support, they had me do a factory reset (holding down '+'
on remote) which did not fix anything. Unfortunately, the unit is no
longer
On 17/08/09 18:32, MillmoorRon wrote:
Is this just for the initial setup so that you can set network stuff,
then Squeezecenter is used normally for other options?
That's correct.
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On 18/08/09 08:14, karibe wrote:
robinbowes;449118 Wrote:
In that case, it may be that your SBR is faulty.
You might like to try calling Logitech support, although you may find
that they only offer offical support if you have the Controller as
well.
R.
I'm afraid I have to care
On 18/08/09 15:25, ggoodwin wrote:
I've been stuggling with getting a new SBR working using the UDAP exe
all day.
Tried wired and wireless
Light turns blue
SBR has an IP from DHCP (seen in SBR config and DHCP server)
SBR does not respond to ping though
also tried static ip and dhcp
On 07/08/09 14:25, daviseh wrote:
THanks Robin - One last question. I am not sure about the
lan_network_address. If the address of the NIC card in my desktop is
192.168.0.100 per ipconfig and squeezecenter settings gives me that
address as the server where do you find the lan_network_address.
On 04/08/09 20:34, daviseh wrote:
Thanks Robin. I changed interface from 0 to 1 and I was able to use
iPeng to connect to Squeezenetwork.
When I log into squeezenetwork the player is there. However,
squeezecenter does not find the player and I can not connect to
squeezecneter from iPeng.
On 04/08/09 05:18, daviseh wrote:
I am having a problem figuring this out. I have a wired setup with the
following specs
IP Address = 192.168.0.105
Gateway = 192.168.0.1
Squeezecenter address=192.168.105
So I reset the SBR and entered the following:
discover
conf 1
set interface=0
On 26/07/09 23:36, socistep wrote:
Hi All
Have got flac2mp3 working well on my server, scheduled to run daily.
On checking outputs I've noticed that each time it runs that the
following files are updated
Writing tags to /storage/music/mp3/Black Rebel Motorcycle Club/Take
Them On, On
On 20/07/09 20:05, ModelCitizen wrote:
socistep;442141 Wrote:
Any ideas what could be causing this ?
Yup, the $ character. Robin only thinks in pounds.
Specifically:
https://projects.robinbowes.com/flac2mp3/trac#Donations
;)
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hase wrote:
hi there,
i got a SBR today, and tried setting it up with the net::udap tool,
unfortunately i was not very successful :(. the perl script seems to be
running ok, but the 'discover' command does not find the SBR. i'm using
- ubuntu 9.04
- netgear wgr614v2 router with only 2
dsdreamer wrote:
For more info, look here: http://projects.robinbowes.com/Net-UDAP/trac
This is not a polished or user-friendly program, so it may not suit
everyone and as I say it is *not* supported by Logitech. It is possible
that you could buy a receiver and find the task of setting it up
jackamo wrote:
OK! Thank you!
What are functions I miss if I choose only Receiver without Controller?
Is there smth I can do with Controller and can't in SqueezeCenter?
I don't believe the SBR can do more without the SBC, but I suggest you
post that as another question in a separate thread
jackamo wrote:
Hi!
I'm absolute beginner in all this stuff together with very poor
english.
So my Q are:
1. what should I do if my wireless network is without WEP and WPA - MAC
adress filtering only?
Don't enable WEP or WPA:
set wireless_wep_on=0 wireless_wpa_on=0
2. where I can find
gregcann wrote:
Hello All!
I have just bought a Squeezebox receiver to add to my original
Squeezebox player / center.
I downloaded the UDAP software installed with ActivePerl on a direct
wired laptop on the same network as my new receiver (wired) and existing
Squeezebox (wireless).
Double
DrewSB wrote:
Let's say you have a SB3 connected via Toslink to a receiver and are
playing FLAC files ripped from a CD. Is there any reason this would not
sound identical to the same CD being played through a decent CD player's
Toslink output?
Both players should be sending identical bits to
Gooner wrote:
Hello everyone.
I'm interested in views as to how many years I could expect a
Squeezebox to function fault free.
If you own one of these, could you let me know how long you've had it
and whether it continues to work :)
This is in relation to a dispute I'm having with
sderuiter wrote:
I've copied all files to a subdir under /usr/bin.
When I run the command from your wiki, the following output greets me:
Which wiki page are you following?
Code:
Nemo:/usr/bin/ndap/tags/RELEASE_1.0.0# scripts/udap_shell.pl
-bash:
sderuiter wrote:
mirhon;405516 Wrote:
@Peter
I'm not sure how to add WEP key using your udap_shell_1_0_0.exe.
On Net-UDAP site:
http://projects.robinbowes.com/Net-UDAP/trac#January212009
I can read:
I just committed a change that switches to hex entry for WEP keys.
This simply means that
There are some examples on the web site:
http://projects.robinbowes.com/Net-UDAP/trac/wiki/SampleUsage
Failing that, try posting to the mailing list:
net-udap {at} projects.robinbowes.com
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bpa wrote:
A plugin based on current API would only work on x86 Linux systems and
premium users. I think it may be necessary to wait awhile for a more
generic API.
N, I run x86 linux systems! Would be nice to steal a march for a
change; it's usually Windows that are catered for first.
Mr_Sukebe wrote:
simonjedrake;391149 Wrote:
All you need to do to access your SC via your mobile isto enter
/handheld/ after the www address of your SC as per the below example.
http://192.168.1.11:9001/handheld/
I use my Nokia E71 the whole time as an extra remote on my Wifi network
at
Mr_Sukebe wrote:
Please excuse my lack of knowledge on this, I did try searching for
info, but there wasn't much and it left me even more confused.
In short, I bought a snazzy Nokia 5800 today, which I'm guessing is
capable of controlling my SB. Squeezecentre is running on my XP PC.
I
coffeetime wrote:
Hello everybody!
I was just wondering-relating to the forum; for example, after a
problem is solved, the OP adds [*solved*] into the thread. This would
help searching for solutions for new users.
Than maybe an IRC channel would be good too? And by the way, are here
any
Howard Passman wrote:
peter;381812 Wrote:
Robin Bowes wrote:
Hi all,
Net::UDAP is a Perl module to configure the SqueezeBox Receiver (SBR)
from a PC, i.e. without requiring a SqueezeBox Controller (SBC).
The project homepage is here:
http://projects.robinbowes.com/Net-UDAP
Net::UDAP
Peter wrote:
I don't understand how they get away with selling the SBR
as a separate product without providing a simple setup tool with it.
Open Source does not mean you let your users do all the work.
The SBR is sold separately for users who require 1 receiver with just
one controller,
Peter wrote:
I've 'compiled' this version with perlapp from the Activestate Perl PDK.
The resulting executable is a probably bit easier to user for the average
SB user. You can put it up on the Net-UDAP page if you want.
http://slim2lirc.myown.mailcan.com/udap_shell_1_0_0.exe
Thanks for
Robin Bowes wrote:
Peter wrote:
I've 'compiled' this version with perlapp from the Activestate Perl PDK.
The resulting executable is a probably bit easier to user for the average
SB user. You can put it up on the Net-UDAP page if you want.
http://slim2lirc.myown.mailcan.com
Hi all,
Net::UDAP is a Perl module to configure the SqueezeBox Receiver (SBR)
from a PC, i.e. without requiring a SqueezeBox Controller (SBC).
The project homepage is here:
http://projects.robinbowes.com/Net-UDAP
Net::UDAP was originally released in June 2008 and there have been no
Peter wrote:
Excellent work, Robin!
I'll check it out.
IMHO LogiTech should make a handsome donation for your good work (and
work they should've been doing themselves).
How about 5 free Duets for each of your kids? ;)
Oh, I get my rewards, direct and indirect.
For example, I start a new
radish wrote:
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/RouterStatus
I personally use a D-Link DIR-655 and love it, others will no doubt
proclaim love for DD-WRT and suggest you put it on your WRT54GS.
Certainly worth trying!
I use a WRT54GS and a WRT54GL, both with DD-WRT, both excellent.
Try
Peter wrote:
Robin Bowes wrote:
radish wrote:
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/RouterStatus
I personally use a D-Link DIR-655 and love it, others will no doubt
proclaim love for DD-WRT and suggest you put it on your WRT54GS.
Certainly worth trying!
I use a WRT54GS
mewzshn wrote:
My wireless router (Linksys WRT54GS) seems to have hit bottom - I'm
having to reset it multiple times a day just to get internet. The old
one has 2 antennae which I replaced with ugly longer ones and my
wireless coverage was not great but OK much of the time. I decided to
try
Peter wrote:
Robin Bowes wrote:
Peter wrote:
Robin Bowes wrote:
They're all wireless-g though, aren't they?
And?
And I'd like an alternative firmware AP with wireless-g.
Eh? You mean wireless-n ?
The OP is using his current device with 3 Squeezeboxen - they too
cvj wrote:
After installing 7.3 (Windows XP) I get the following error message when
I try to play .flac encoded files on my Squeezebox 3:
Problem: Unable to play this filetype
I have lots of .flac encoded files and never had a problem playing them
on my SB3.
I checked Advanced Options
StigErik wrote:
When connecting a digital source to any of the digital inputs on the
Transporter, there is output at the analog outputs, but not at the
digital output. Is there any good reason for this? I would really like
this to work, as I use other digital sources with my Transporter, and
ian_heys wrote:
Has anyone ever considered tackling this issue.
Apparently there is limited capacity for native codecs within the SB2/3
but some formats are provided that I don't use.
For me the ideal native combination would be:
WAV*/AAC/AAC+/WMA*/MP3*
(* = already native)
I
I'll respond here to both yours and sepb's comments.
JJZolx wrote:
Databases like that are a bit of a chicken and egg problem. How do you
expect to populate it? In order for it to be at all useful, you'll
need to convince developers of tagging and/or ripping software to
integrate with it.
Hi all,
I've been tagging a whole load of classical music recently and couldn't
help but feel that it could be a whole lot easier.
I've got the initial rumblings of an idea for a classical music version
of FreeDB and have done a bit of a braindump here:
StuartC wrote:
So I'm interested in other opinions about the comparative sound of the
Boom vs. SBR with powered speakers. Have I fooled myself with my
unscientific listening test?
Who cares?!!
Use whatever you think sounds the best - anyone else's opinion is
irrelevant.
R.
funkstar wrote:
tygar;339512 Wrote:
Finally, I found a post suggesting a factory reset. It didn't tell how
to do it that. Here is how. With your first hand, hold your
Transporter. With your second hand, plug in the Transporter. With
your third hand (apparently, this reprogramming system
ModelCitizen wrote:
My PC is not very state of the art at all.
Heh, I still chuckle when I remember that machine you brought round to
try and install linux on to run Slimserver. Wasn't it a P1 with 32MB of
RAM, or some such?
:)
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Paul Webster wrote:
How about getting the Logitech folks in UK to team up with last.fm for a
similar event.
I'm sure that enough of us enthusiasts from south of England could do
the demos if Logitech UK are not up to speed.
*South* of England
We're friendlier up here!
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Aguida wrote:
I guess as most people I don't use the SB3 volume control but the one on
my stereo amp.
So the question is what is the best setting for the output volume of
the SB3 with regard to distortion and S/N ratio? I usually have it on
95% but I got the doubt wheter I am too close to
amcluesent wrote:
We'll I did say I was using RAID1 as TBH an exernal backup regime for
1.5Tb isn't really tractable...
Sure it is.
Here's a couple of ideas:
1. Copy everything to external drives - 4 x 500Gb external drives would
only cost around £200; 1GB drives might be a bit more pricey.
MrSinatra wrote:
yeah, how DARE i have an opinion that doesn't require pom poms. what
was i thinking?
Straight in with the fan boy line of defence, I see. *yawn*.
i stand by what i said, and if u don't like it or disagree, fine, but i
find NOTHING exaggerated with what i said.
You
MrSinatra wrote:
don't ignore the context of what i said...
Ok, here's what you said, in its entirety:
again, i respect SC and i'm not saying it should be thrown
overboard, but why force it to be the only solution?
You then follow that up with:
i was talking about what slim does, and they
ianstuart wrote:
I have been having connection problems with my two Duets for the last
several months. Support now blames the Netgear Range Extender that I
bought to permit the receivers to work more than 15 feet from the
router. Odd that my old SB3 works perfectly with the Range Extender and
MrSinatra wrote:
i am suggesting that developing SC as the only pgm possible to power
the hardware isn't the best soluton, given its serious limitations,
which are legion.
Mr. Sinatra, you're talking bollocks again.
SC has its flaws, yes, but from the way you talk anyone would think it's
tonythetiger wrote:
Thanks all for the replies.
I have changed to FLAC but not sure if it's helped.
The TX rate has dropped to 2Mb some times, and has been 0 before too.
I wasn't sure if that was SqueezeCenter not pumping out the tracks or
if that was just bad network.
Anyways, it seems
NathanielK wrote:
I find it very hard to believe that all of these different sources
would mention the bridging feature yet not a single one acknowledges
the fact that it is unsupported in the interface or documentation for
the product.
Nathaniel,
From what I can gather, bridging is
NathanielK wrote:
Low and behold, when I ran the shell, if worked exactly like the
short instructions in the post by jrfuda; even discovering and
configuring over my wireless network.
Glad it's working.
It sounds like this was a network issue, and the scripts are not
entirely bulletproof,
NathanielK wrote:
in the shell window, I can execute the help and list commands, but when
I try discover I get a huge amount of text. I copied it to notepad and
it seems to be this, repeated over and over:
Use of uninitialized value $rawstr in length at
C:/UDAP_Thing/scripts/../src/Net
rbz5416 wrote:
Brown nosers need not post telling me it works for them - I'm not
interested. I AM interested in why this bug report appears to be being
completely ignored.
Displaying attitude like that will not help your cause.
Bugs are prioritised and dealt with accordingly. I do not work
is therefore likely a low priority to SD and,
because it's not getting the attention *you* feel it should have you
extrapolate from that that Logitech aren't committed to the product
line? Ha ha haha .
rbz5416 wrote:
Robin Bowes Wrote:
Displaying attitude like that will not help your cause
It's
rbz5416 wrote:
Zzz
Unsubscribes.
By!
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bad.wolf wrote:
Anyone else had similar experiences?
Yeah, some guy posted in the audiophile forum with exactly the same
issues. :|
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Peter wrote:
Robin Bowes wrote:
Even when configured, the UDAP protocol is UDP-based so the UDAP source
(PC) and UDAP destination (SBR) have to be on the same network segment.
There's no causality in that. UDP works fine over the Internet. You
probably mean it's broadcast based which
mflint wrote:
(For some reason, Net-UDAP couldn't discover the SBR unless it was
hard-wired to my router)
I wrote the tool specifically to configure a factory-supplied (i.e. no
config) SBR from a PC without requiring a SBC. Until the SBR is
configured, it cannot connect to any wireless
jaffacake wrote:
Thanks to all for the responses.
A few more ideas...
One way to do this would be to run multiple instances of SC. If you want
to run these on the same box, you would need to use different IPs for
each instance. You'd probably also want to use a system-installed
MySQL
jaffacake wrote:
I have absolutely no desire to waste my time defending myself against
false accusation and speculation.
Robin Bowes, and others, are attacking me with untruths and guesswork.
This is damaging to my reputation yet you choose to allow it to remain
within your forums. I can
jaffacake wrote:
The review is fairly flawed in several areas, but not entirely
surprising given the limited research the author often does for his
articles.
snip
Ahem, unlike your totally fair and thoroughly researched cnet reviews,
eh Ben?
More FUD from the Sonos fanboy.
R.
jaffacake wrote:
Robin Bowes;287134 Wrote:
Ahem, unlike your totally fair and thoroughly researched cnet reviews,
eh Ben?
More FUD from the Sonos fanboy.
R.
Very much unlike. At least everything in my review was accurate and
factual.
Did you write that review [1] based on having
Khuli wrote:
MuckleEck;286440 Wrote:
I see no point in syncing the bedroom SB
Depends what sort of parties you have ;)
Nah, you'd want different music in the bedroom - Barry White, for example ;)
Personally, I've found that Bill Wither's Greatest Hits never fails :)
R.
badbob wrote:
How come a 64 bit version wasen't been released?
Because you don't need a 64-bit version. It would just be bigger.
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One (important) point that no-one has yet pointed out is that I don't
believe that Mandriva is an officially supported platform. Although, on
looking this up in the FAQ, it only says:
Squeezebox, Transporter and SlimServer are officially supported under:
* Windows NT/2000/XP,
* Linux
JimC wrote:
As you may have seen from my earlier post, we're going to be migrating
from kwiki to mediawiki. I'm currently going through some housekeeping
in preparation for the Great Re-editing that will start later this week
and I wanted to float a question to the community:
Should we
ModelCitizen wrote:
Hello,
In my quest for true whole-house audio it's struck me that I need a
Windows-based low footprint player, integrated with SlimCenter, that
does not show on my PC (is this headless?). I only need to control it
via the SlimCenter web interface and the jive controller.
DanielTheGreat wrote:
[lots of stuff about a poorly Windows box]
IMHO you should do a clean re-install of your Windows box.
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seanadams wrote:
http://web.archive.org/web/20021112224742/images.slimdevices.com/photos/assembly/sean.jpeg
... but I have since been replaced by a big machine for this.
Assimilated, even. ;)
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smc2911 wrote:
I would conclude from the discussion here that I'm not really
suffering in any way by doing this (other than missing out on a bit
of volume of course :))
Can you hear any deficiency? If not, you're not missing out on anything.
Actually, you're not anyway but, even if you were,
haunyack wrote:
Just a stupid story about a stupid mistake that could be made by any
stupid induvidual or company.
You're the guy who posted the drunken rant about how you lost all your
music at a party using beta software, aren't you?
Bit of a pattern developing here, isn't there?
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egd wrote:
willyhoops;278251 Wrote:
Powered speakers... the downmarket things you plug into your computer
which don't have a remote volume becuase you adjust it on the computer.
ROFLMAO...do you have any idea what you're ranting about?
Heh, that is quite clearly a rhetorical question,
willyhoops wrote:
ok maybe i am wrong on the exact details
Heh, you can say that again, without the maybe, and perhaps adding a
completely.
but smc2911 i will try and calculate just how bad the quality of your
squeezebox playback has been the last few years.
using:
The point is, he would have got an immediate response if he had called
on the phone instead of ranting on here.
His order shipped the day after he placed it but he did not receive the
confirmation email(s) because of a problem with the email address.
I use email heavily, and most of the time
willyhoops wrote:
gee you are not reading it... not me they messed up.
Er, I am reading it. I'm obviously not understanding you very well.
are you understanding what i am saying... if 6v is the max level that
when it comes out of his hifi makes a party kick...
then one third of that will
DanielTheGreat wrote:
My music server is a 3GHz P4 Win2k PC with 2GB RAM and heaps of HDD
space free.
That should be more than enough power to run SC.
If I reboot the PC it is several minutes (with much disc-thrashing)
before I can play anything from SlimServer. Why is this?
That doesn't
mowensmd wrote:
Guess the community can't help much. Good luck Slim, you have a great
form factor here but the connectivity is in the dumpster. Maybe the
wifi here (congested condo area) is the issue, but it doesn't affect
any of 3 other laptops/tablets.
I've gotten connection to my
miked wrote:
Doesn't the US-centric spelling just make it sound more exotic
elsewhere?
I notice that many places here in the states say theatre when they're
trying to sound more upscale and/or Euro, so I always presumed that
spelling it the US way in Europe would have the same connotation .
Siduhe wrote:
This is getting a bit silly - most of the people who posted on the Sonos
forums in response to Robin were more than reasonable, but I guess some
people just can't help themselves.
I doubt Ro53ben/Jaffacake are representative of the wider Sonos
community.
ModelCitizen wrote:
He's got to be a Sonos stooge. It's his one and only post to cnet. What
is annoying is that you cannot leave a comment on the biased and
factually incorrect review.
It does show that Sonos are quite worried though... which indeed they
should be.
I've joined the Sonos
Marc Sherman wrote:
mvalera wrote:
Please see my announcement at the top of each forum for details on the
delay.
I'll post the manual as soon as I get a final one.
Hey, Mike, please remember that some of us read this as a mailing list.
Forum announcements don't get gated to the mailing
brant wrote:
Anybody got one yet? Can't wait... :)
I've got three :p
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verdemar wrote:
Wouldn't it be more correct to use the created timestamp to select new
music?
I find it kind of irritating that the new music list is full of music
that I recently retagged, but that has been in my library for ages.
So, don't modify the timestamp when you update the tags.
AlexV wrote:
Hello,
Just a quick questions regarding the new Duet.
- I'm NOT an album type of guy... I don't sort my files by album... Can
I still use the Duet ? Because, on the CES video, the browsing seemed to
be album-based... What if I want to sort my files by genre only ?
Possible ?
verdemar wrote:
Yes, the problem is that my tagging software won't allow it (and they
will not implement it as it is incorrect behaviour). Which is true, I
guess. I'm using MusicBrainz Picard.
It's not incorrect behaviour. It's not correct behaviour either. It is
down to the user to choose.
meep wrote:
Hi
Browsing my local PC superstore this week I see they have Squeezebox
for €169 - down from €299 a few weeks ago (I think).
This is surely a bargain, right? Now, I'm wondering, are they just
clearing local stock or is there a new version coming out and would I
be better
JJZolx wrote:
It was a good question.
How do you so painstakingly test software for months and months on end
and not bother to look at the documentation? Or does everyone just
naturally accept that good documentation is a distant, secondary
concern and that corrections will come whenever
johndpar wrote:
I just hope that M$ is not the cause of the murky water.
I'm sorry but I (like many) will not purchase Duet if M$ eats
Logitech/SD
Hopes now turned to fears.
Old news now turned to wild rumour-mongering, I feel.
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gcogger wrote:
Hi,
I'm not sure if we're allowed to sell items on this forum? If not, can
anyone suggest a good place (e.g. a forum) to sell my QNAP TS-109 NAS
drive in the UK?
eBay?
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JJZolx wrote:
bulletmark;271394 Wrote:
Yes, but still poorly edited. A 20 second look of that single page shows
there still 3 references to artwork thumb files which should be
deleted.
And really, am I the one who should be reviewing this? Is this
representative of QA there at Logitech
JimC wrote:
Robin's plug-in, which requires SqueezeCenter and a wired connection to
the Squeezebox Receiver, would allow a user to configure a Squeezebox
Receiver without the controller.
Perhaps now is as good a time as any to release a little more
information about what I'm working on...
Peter wrote:
Some people have no trust in this community. Is your plugin going to
include setting up a wireless WPA key so that we can configure an SBR
over ethernet and then continue using it over Wifi? I trust it will, but
perhaps you'd better confirm that to the doubtful part of the
mvalera wrote:
djfake;268947 Wrote:
Mike - when Robin does get this plugin written, I hope Logitech does
something very nice for him. I'll buy one, that's for sure.
Also, why doesn't the old remote for the Squeezebox not work with the
SBR?
We're very familiar with Robin. He's one of our
djfake wrote:
mvalera;268629 Wrote:
Robin's developing a plug-in to solve that. The SB Receiver will get an
IP address thru DHCP automatically on the Ethernet port (didn't know
that till today) so his plug-in will be able to find and configure the
receivers without too much trouble. The hard
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Peter wrote:
rene50 wrote:
hallo mooi nederlands,ja ik heb veel mp3's op de pc staan of op de
apple imac.
ik heb een goede geluidskaart,maar ik vraag mij af of dat nodig is
,maar dat is misschien een domme opmerking.
IK HEB EEN FOCAL ICUB SET DIE ZEER GESCHIKT IS OM TE VERBINDEN MET
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