Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-19 Thread ModelCitizen
Philip Meyer;330453 Wrote: Maybe if someone could describe the problem, we could all chip in with some suggestions and see where we end up? Try reading post 10 Phil. Also, there are at least two later posts in this thread praising the fact that the problem has been described at last! Is that

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-19 Thread Phil Meyer
Try reading post 10 Phil. Post 10 is meaningless to me; I get posts via email - messages threaded properly (except when the email gateway goes bananas and posts get attached to the wrong thread). Also, there are at least two later posts in this thread praising the fact that the problem has

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-19 Thread ModelCitizen
Philip Meyer;330692 Wrote: Try reading post 10 Phil. Post 10 is meaningless to me; I get posts via email - messages threaded properly (except when the email gateway goes bananas and posts get attached to the wrong thread). Yes I know you get them via email. It's the reason I have to clear up

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-19 Thread Phil Meyer
Yes I know you get them via email. It's the reason I have to clear up all the misplaced pointy brackets and incorrect colouring every time I reply to your posts in the forum! By misplaced pointy brackets, I guess you mean quoted line symbols using . They are not misplaced; they look fine in

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-19 Thread Nonreality
So should one choice be the going to the top menu item and the other choice be like a back button? I know I'm constantly wishing for a back button when I'm on the now playing screen. Now it looks like I could have had it I guess. Maybe that is, I can't seem to get either setting to do anything

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-18 Thread Phil Meyer
Really - I think longtime users will be more confused than newbies, as they've got used to the confusing names. New users will find them much more intuitive to understand. I think the name change is a good one, but it did confuse me for a few seconds. I'm in the other camp - I actually like it

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-18 Thread ModelCitizen
Philip Meyer;330258 Wrote: I'm in the other camp No surprise there then. :-) Philip Meyer;330258 Wrote: I actually like it jumping to Now Playing, rather than returning to where I was. As I leave it running for some time, I can't remember where I was, so jumping to now playing screen

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-18 Thread Phil Meyer
I do frequently change my mind on what I want to play, and thus navigate to play other stuff. However, I just as frequently want to use the now playing screen, eg. to see more detailed information on the currently playing track. In fact, as soon as I start playing something, I tend to

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-18 Thread Phil Meyer
How about press-and-hold Now Playing when in browse menus shows the currently playing info briefly (so you don't lose your current place), whereas Now Playing single press takes you to now playing screen (as it currently does). ___ discuss mailing list

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-18 Thread Phil Meyer
The one thing I am sure about is that Now Playing should be simple, intuitive and obvious. No one should have to read a manual to see how it works. Any solution that does not fit this is plainly wrong. Ignoring screensavers for the moment, what do you find not intuitive and obvious about Now

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-16 Thread Michael Herger
This has been an enlightening thread. Like others I thought the behavior totally erratic. It would really enhance the user experience if the Now Playing functionality made logical sense. I think it's great that you all speak up about the confusion this has been causing. But we'd need a

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-16 Thread ModelCitizen
mherger;329779 Wrote: I think it's great that you all speak up about the confusion Yes, isn't it. mherger;329779 Wrote: But we'd need a clear idea on how the design should be before we can change it's current behaviour. This thread has a few purposes, one of which is to open a discussion

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-16 Thread SadGamerGeek
Wow - ModelCitizen has done a fantastic job of putting into clear language exactly why the Now Playing situation is so horribly confusing! I have had SBs for a few years now, but I've always been so frustrated by how that setting/screen/screensaver functioned... It's just never worked exactly

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-15 Thread ModelCitizen
This topic didn't get the interest from the developers that I'd hoped (but I guess the timing could have been better). I've filed a bug/enhancement and would be glad if anyone who understands the issue or is as frustrated with the player UI Now Playing functionality as I have become would sign

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-15 Thread autopilot
I'l vote, completely agree with all you have said. Makes no sense the way it is now, just frustrating. -- autopilot *Server:* SC7.1b (Windows Vista 64) *Players:* Squeezebox 3 (main room) / Squeezebox Receiver (bedroom) / Softsqueeze (office). *Amps:* Cambridge Audio 640a (main room) / Trends

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-15 Thread bonze
ModelCitizen;329164 Wrote: I think a solution may be that the Now Playing screen be done away with entirely and that the Now Playing button on the remote be mapped to the Now Playing screensaver.I'd agree with this idea - and make it possible to also use MusicInfoSCR The only problem I see

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-15 Thread Landhoff
ModelCitizen;329276 Wrote: But seeing as the Squeezebox Classic has been removed as a product from the SlimDevices home page and the Duet is now being heavily promoted maybe Logitech aren't too bothered with the player display any more... ...oh, hang on ;-) MC Just a small

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-15 Thread ModelCitizen
bonze;329532 Wrote: The only problem I see is that you would lose the right-arrow information menu? I thought this would be a problem so tested and for some reason (that escapes me now) it wasn't a problem. bonze;329532 Wrote: I often do the same - scan through a few radio stations or

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-15 Thread Wirrunna
Dear Lone Nutter, This has been an enlightening thread. Like others I thought the behavior totally erratic. It would really enhance the user experience if the Now Playing functionality made logical sense. -- Wirrunna A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee.

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-14 Thread ModelCitizen
mherger;328984 Wrote: The Now Playing (Jump back on Wake) was the only setting that made any sense out of the Now Playing screensaver/Now Playing screen mess. It's not that bad, is it? It is and here's an illustration why. I had trouble sleeping last night and so played around with my

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-14 Thread cshaida
Well, I've learned something today so that's good, right? Thanks to all of this I now understand the underlying logic to what I had thought was just erratic behavior. Also a longtime SB supporter (5 and counting), but add my vote/voice to modelcitizen's in finding some way to get 'back' to the

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-14 Thread ModelCitizen
cshaida;329252 Wrote: Thanks to all of this I now understand the underlying logic to what I had thought was just erratic behavior. And this illustrates the problem perfectly. Most users put up with it and think it's eccentric or erratic behaviour, and as they don't understand what is going on

[slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-13 Thread ModelCitizen
I've been finding navigating music on my SlimDevices quite frustrating recently and I've only just realised the main reason why. I'm sure when I used to hit the left arrow button on a remote from the Now Playing screen I used to go back to the last menu item I was at (usually an album or track

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-13 Thread kdf
ModelCitizen wrote: Can anyone elucidate in any way? sounds like the difference between the now playing screensaver and the now playing (jump back on wake) screensaver. The jump back option will remember the last place you were, where the non-jump back will just go to the now playing

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-13 Thread ModelCitizen
kdf;328922 Wrote: sounds like the difference between the now playing screensaver and the now playing (jump back on wake) screensaver. That's what I thought at first so I checked that my Now Playing ScreenSaver settings had not changed. They hadn't... however the it appears name of the Now

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-13 Thread Michael Herger
That's what I thought at first so I checked that my Now Playing ScreenSaver settings had not changed. They hadn't... however the it appears name of the Now Playing (Jump Back on Wake) screensaver has been changed to Jump To Now Playing. There we go... I was sure this would lead to confusion:

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-13 Thread ModelCitizen
mherger;328928 Wrote: There we go... I was sure this would lead to confusion: Jump To Now Playing is not the Jump Back flavor, but what used to be the Now Playing screensaver. It will really jump there and not go back. Thus you'll have to use the simple Now Playing version... Michael Hmmm.

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-13 Thread ModelCitizen
Having played around a bit more it seems that the old Now Playing (Jump back on Wake) setting has been entirely done away with. If I'm correct this begs the question: Why? The Now Playing (Jump back on Wake) was the only setting that made any sense out of the Now Playing screensaver/Now Playing

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-13 Thread Michael Herger
Having played around a bit more it seems that the old Now Playing (Jump back on Wake) setting has been entirely done away with. It's working fine here. The above option is now simply Now Playing, and the former Now Playing is now the Jump to Now Playing or similar. IMHO it was a simple string

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-13 Thread y360
I've lost you. Can you please explain the difference between 'Now Playing' and 'Now playing (Jump back on wake)' I was always frustrated by having to to navigate from Now Playing back to the last menu I was in. Are you saying there is actually an alternative ? I see that my player is set on Now

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-13 Thread Michael Herger
Can you please explain the difference between 'Now Playing' and 'Now playing (Jump back on wake)' We changed the screensaver's names: - Old Now Playing - Jump To Now Playing - Old Now playing (Jump back on wake) - Now Playing Are you saying there is actually an alternative ? There has

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-13 Thread ModelCitizen
As succinctly as possible? This is only relevant for the remote/player display, not the Duet or SBC. You can choose between various screensavers for individual players (Payer/Basic Settings). Up to and including 7.0.1 the Now Playing screensaver was set as the default for when music was playing

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-13 Thread ModelCitizen
mherger;328984 Wrote: If you have 3rd party plugins/screensaver, get rid of them and try again. Have disabled *all* plugins, installed the latest 7.2 nighly and all works as it should now. Cheers. Will try and figure out what was causing it when I have some more time. mherger;328984 Wrote:

Re: [slim] 7.1/7.2 fails to remember previous menu position from Now Playing screen?

2008-08-13 Thread y360
mherger;328997 Wrote: We changed the screensaver's names: - Old Now Playing - Jump To Now Playing - Old Now playing (Jump back on wake) - Now Playing Michael Thanks for your explanation. Was this changed in 7.1 or 7.2 ? I still see Now playing (Jump back on wake) in player settings