Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2010-01-31 Thread lord_squeeze
Would love to see this fixed... -- lord_squeeze lord_squeeze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35222 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=2

Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2010-01-31 Thread Mnyb
lord_squeeze;512194 Wrote: Would love to see this fixed... Vote on the bug: https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7462 SBC looks really weird with bright white or red covers, then it gets all blocky and pixelated. Only twelve voters ? even if its pretty obvious that the screen does

Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2010-01-31 Thread lord_squeeze
Mnyb;512196 Wrote: Vote on the bug: https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7462 Only twelve voters ? even if its pretty obvious that the screen does not render colors correctly ? or I'm I picky and expects to much ? Voted. You are not picky. I noticed the bug during the first two

Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2010-01-31 Thread Mnyb
lord_squeeze;512209 Wrote: Voted. You are not picky. I noticed the bug during the first two minutes of using the Controller. I was shocked -- *SHOCKED!!*-- ;) to see it has been around since 2008 and still not fixed. Baah there are 9 year old bugs in the system ;) targeted for future,

Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2010-01-31 Thread usch
Since the Controller uses the same display as the Radio, shouldn't that effect be visible there, too? -- usch usch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33389 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2010-01-31 Thread Mnyb
usch;512229 Wrote: Since the Controller uses the same display as the Radio, shouldn't that effect be visible there, too? Different cpu and probably other system differences on the hardware level, I can not compare have no radio yet. But if they solved it on the radio and NOT backported it to

Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2010-01-31 Thread Mnyb
But the problems is clearly visible in this pictures: Note: forum prevent to large pictures so I've resized,but you can still see the artifacts +---+ |Filename: making_movies.JPG| |Download:

Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2010-01-31 Thread finnbrodersen
Hi I must agree, that the display quality of album art leaves much to be desired. Overall the display quality of the user interface looks good, the letters are good and sharp, but this is not the case with album art, which has too many artifacts. running SBS 7.4.2-r29959 on WinXP with SBC on

Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2009-03-17 Thread Schindler
Any news on this matter, the bugreport also is quiet... Christian -- Schindler Schindler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8461 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2008-04-21 Thread Kim . T
BUMP I see that there has been no movement in the bug report 7462. Is there any news on this issue ? I have the same problem with a lot of my artworks. -- Kim.T HP T5700 Thin Client running FreeNAS + SqueezeCenter 7.0.1 Synology DS-101j / Samsung SpinPoint T133 HD400LD 400 GB - now with 92 mm

Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2008-03-14 Thread ptrainer
Any headway on this issue? Almost all of my album artwork that has any significant area of white or extremely light areas blending into darker show these unattractive artifacts. I do hope it can be corrected. -- ptrainer

Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2008-03-09 Thread Peter
pnielsen wrote: Here's a photo of the SBC taken with my Canon G9. Looks familiar. I've seen this kind of 'effect' too, I blamed it on the source material, never investigated. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com

Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2008-03-09 Thread dean blackketter
Thanks for the pictures. I'm playing with it in photoshop and put your image up on the Controller screen. I see a couple of things: 1. The color banding effects are strong with this particular image. I was able to reproduce the color pattern closely in photoshop with 32 levels of

Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2008-03-09 Thread bradjudy
dean blackketter;277398 Wrote: 2. The photo you took appears to be taken from slightly above perpendicular to the screen. The viewing angle on the Controller LCD is better from the natural angle when holding the device in your hand, slightly _below_ perpendicular. I was able to

Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2008-03-09 Thread pnielsen
dean blackketter;277398 Wrote: So the takeaway is that we can do better by doing a proper dither on the device from 888 to 565. Also, the viewing angle matters. Great! I believe this will take care of the problem. Please use Floyd-Steinberg dithering (or an equally good method). BTW, what

[slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2008-03-08 Thread pnielsen
According to the specifications, the Controller has a 256K color display (should that really be 256,000 or 256?), yet the quality of displayed colors is nowhere near what it could be on a 256 color screen. The display quality looks like the image is quantized to a fixed set of colors without

Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2008-03-08 Thread radish
The SBC display is certainly capable of very good quality images, just take a look at the flickr screensaver or some of the background images for examples. I personally don't think the issue point out is due to colour space reduction (24bit vs ~18bit really isn't much of a visible difference) but

Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2008-03-08 Thread pnielsen
Good point. However, colors would not suffer from size reduction even when a very crude pixel dropping method is used. I just tried resizing to 150x150 without interpolation (=pixel dropping in PMView) and the only obvious defect is jagged edges. Colors are 100% ok. The errors I see in the SBC

Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2008-03-08 Thread dean
The SBC display is actually 16-bit. The images are converted to 24-bit GD format, which is essentially raw, then sent to the SBC and displayed as 16-bit (5-6-5). There is some banding, but I don't think that it's as bad as the example you posted. The SBC doesn't do any dithering, but it

Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2008-03-08 Thread pnielsen
dean;277186 Wrote: There is some banding, but I don't think that it's as bad as the example you posted.? The problem I'm seeing is not banding. I know what banding is, and the SBC does not display the image nearly as well as a 5-6-5 display would. dean;277186 Wrote: The SBC doesn't do any

Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2008-03-08 Thread pnielsen
Here's a photo of the SBC taken with my Canon G9. +---+ |Filename: sbc.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4538|

Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2008-03-08 Thread dean blackketter
On Mar 8, 2008, at 4:56 PM, pnielsen wrote: Can you file a bug on http://bugs.slimdevices.com and attach the original image that you are having problems with? Thanks. I will do that. Obviously the software is doing some really bad things with the image before it's sent to the SBC. Now

Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2008-03-08 Thread pnielsen
Thanks. Here is the original image (artwork.jpg) that SqueezeCenter uses. I've also added another artwork (renamed to artwork2.jpg) that shows the same type of problem. I can easily find more examples, but I'm sure these two are enough. Please see if you can repeat the problem with these images.

Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2008-03-08 Thread pnielsen
I was going to open up a bug report, however, what category should I open it under? There is no specific category for the SBC... Here are two images that clearly show the problem in the SBC. (I can easily find more examples if needed). Can you repeat the problem?

Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2008-03-08 Thread kdf
On 8-Mar-08, at 7:34 PM, pnielsen wrote: I was going to open up a bug report, however, what category should I open it under? There is no specific category for the SBC... Jive Software, UI component. the Controller was formerly known as Jive. -kdf

Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2008-03-08 Thread bradjudy
I've had similar experiences with album covers with similar backgrounds. -- bradjudy bradjudy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14851 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?

2008-03-08 Thread pnielsen
I've opened bug report #7462 Thanks, Peter -- pnielsen pnielsen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11801 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=2