Thanks for the easy solution. Now I need to order one of the new Black
SB's!
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If all you want to do is Internet Radio, just connect it up to
SqueezeNetwork. No PC required. :)
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Recoveryone;165948 Wrote:
> Didn't want to start a new thread on simular issue, but here it goes.
>
> Having problem getting any Radio Time stastion to play. I have signed
> up for an account on their site and added the info on the squeeze
> network page and I still can't get any station to pla
Didn't want to start a new thread on simular issue, but here it goes.
Having problem getting any Radio Time stastion to play. I have signed
up for an account on their site and added the info on the squeeze
network page and I still can't get any station to play.
I do get the RSS ticker and some
SB to Squeezenetwork does not go through your QNAP server - so it looks
like your QNAP is either barred from accessing Internet or your QNAP
has a firewall which is preventing slimserver from accessing internet.
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Strange...Can now connect to sqeezenetwork ok for some reason! Still
have no access to internet streams and rss feeds screensavers.
Thanks
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Mark Lanctot;160508 Wrote:
>
> When I see a big and obvious mistake like that, it makes the rest of
> the article suspect.
Sure, I agree -- I was just trying to point out that bitrate != sound
quality since it didn't seem like the readers of this thread
necessarily understood that.
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I think it's sadder that DAB is no better than internet radio - even
Radio 3 is only 160 kbps, which is well below the rate used in DVB
television broadcasts (usually 256 kbps).
In terms of quality, I think that most people struggle to hear the
difference between lossless (whether 1411 or 700-ish
jamietre;160221 Wrote:
> It's not a fair comparison, since the 128k stream is MP3 encoded whereas
> the 1411 stream is uncompressed. For example, you could stream a CD at
> about half that bitrate (e.g. 705 kbps or so) using FLAC encoding, with
> absolutely no loss in quality, since FLAC is a los
The article clearly states that CDs are recorded at 128kbps. This is
false. End of story, the article is wrong. Now you may think their
intention was to say that CDs are recorded at a sound quality level
which is equivalent to 128kbps MP3, but that's not what they said (and,
anyway, is also wrong)
Mark Lanctot;160202 Wrote:
> Umm:
> Music CDs are recorded at 1411 kbps. 1411 kbps <> 128 kbps...
It's not a fair comparison, since the 128k stream is MP3 encoded
whereas the 1411 stream is uncompressed. For example, you could stream
a CD at about half that bitrate (e.g. 705 kbps or so) using F
Mark,
Good point. I guess that just goes to show that you should never
believe anything you read on the internet. Including, of course, this
forum :)
Ceejay
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richidoo;159296 Wrote:
> I found this interesting:
> http://ezinearticles.com/?Internet-Radio-Broadcasting---About-Bitrates&id=231665
Umm:
> The highest bitrate recommended to stream music to broadband listeners
> is 128kbs. Why? Music cd's are recorded at 128kbs. Any streaming above
> this bit
gdg;159325 Wrote:
> That helps. The reason I was asking is because I am running a very high
> end system and was curious about how internet radio stacks up against
> CD (which I consider pretty bad). 128 compared to 1400... wow, that's
> pretty bad. On the other hand I was intending to only use t
gdg;159301 Wrote:
> Any idea how this compares to the 16bit 44khz cd standard? (I have no
> idea what bitrates mean).
The bitrates mentioned above generally refer to MP3 encoding bitrates.
They're far below CD quality, but the MP3 encoding techniques try to
intelligently work around that, so tha
That helps. The reason I was asking is because I am running a very high
end system and was curious about how internet radio stacks up against
CD (which I consider pretty bad). 128 compared to 1400... wow, that's
pretty bad. On the other hand I was intending to only use the radio for
backround danc
Any idea how this compares to the 16bit 44khz cd standard? (I have no
idea what bitrates mean).
CD is something like 1400kbps. MP3 and the like try to remove "inaudible"
parts of your songs before compressing the rest to get the reduced
bitrate. That's why these methods are called "lossy". "
Thanx Rich.
Any idea how this compares to the 16bit 44khz cd standard? (I have no
idea what bitrates mean).
Gerry
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Usually 32kbps to 128kbps, although the higher rates are rare.
I found this interesting:
http://ezinearticles.com/?Internet-Radio-Broadcasting---About-Bitrates&id=231665
Rich
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6.5.1 also seems to have a similar bug with RSS feeds, using softsqueeze
you get the (partial) error message displayed on the 'screen', something
about a perl error line 186?? (really sorry to be so vague guys but I
went back to 6.5.0 before I thought to post here )
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I used to be able to sync my live365 stream across players using
Slimserver 6.3.1. Upgrading to 6.5.1 broke this... I entered bug 4236
(http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4326). Note, running the
players individually and connecting to live365 streams fine - just does
not work anymore if
I was under the impression that this had been fixed,
but I installed today's nightly build, and am still having the same
problem. Debugging below. Any help appreciated.
Thanks!
2006-10-10 21:34:37.9913 This player supports direct streaming for
http://64.71.145.107:8004/ as http://64.71.145.107:8
I get the failure to parse message on all my radio stations unless I
stop and restart the server.
Using 6.5.1 on Intel mac.
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Direct connection whenever possible is the norm from 6.5 onwards and
latest FW. See discussion at
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27996
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It appears to me that whenever possible the SB3 winds up talking
directly to the internet radio stream. Is this true?
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Same problem here. No Internet radio same error as above. SS 6.5.1 9/30
nightly download on Windows XP . Has this been resolved?
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I'm using 6.5b1-8702 on Fedora Core 4.
My slimserver is also now failing to connect to all internet radio
streams. Here's the debug log for an attempt to connect to radioio
acoustic:
2006-10-01 11:51:24.7398 This player supports direct streaming for
http://radioio.sc.llnwd.net:8120/ as http://ra
I have exactly the same problem. I have upgraded to 6.5.1, but it did
not solve the issue.
It affects both internet radio and podcasts.
The error mentions a not well formed (invalid token) at line 1 column
6... of /perl/... parser.pm
Should I replace the parser.pm file?
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Not sure if related, but there is a problem parsing XML if running under
Windows that is preventing LIVE365 from working. See the entry:
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There are two issues but they may be interconnected.
Can you get radio on SoftSqueeze on the same PC as Slimserver ?
You should also put into the exclusion list socketwrapper.exe and
mplayer.exe. After an upgrade some users have found it necessary on
some security s/w/ to delete the old entries
One difference in streaming between past versions and 6.5 is that now
(in most cases) the stream is run directly to the squeezebox from the
remote server - bypassing the slimserver entirely. This is the same
approach as Squeezenetwork has always taken. In previous versions, the
slimserver acted as
Hi bpa
No radio at all!!!
when I select slim picks the little 'wait' ring goes round and round
and all buttons on the remote don't function with the exception of the
volume. It locks up, and the only button that seems to work is 'search'
which takes the system back to the top menu. All the alien
More info would help debug problems - most AlienBBC problems are well
characterised and resolvable once the symptoms and system have been
described in detail.
When you say no internet radio with 6.5 - do you mean just AlienBBC or
all internate radio such as RadIO, Lives365, etc. ?
If it is just
Try:
http://www.txradica.net/saga.php?c=saga1057fm
This is W. Midlands 105.7 FM - presumably changing the 1057 will find
the other variants.
Regards,
Stuart.
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Have you tried the same stations using a PC player like Winamp, iTunes,
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figured it out.
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I seem to have a problem launching Internet Radio stations using
playlists. It seems to freeze up and I have to shutdown the
Squeezebox. I can launch the same radio stations either manually or by
setting it up in the SqueezeNetwork and it works fine. I am using 6.3.1
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I just updated all ports on Firewall and upgraded to 3.6.1 and
everything is working now. I am in love with this little white box.
Now,
1. Wake on Lan
2. Local FM stations in playlists that i can't get living too far out
in the mountains
3. Plug in, Plug in and Plug - in's.
4. IR Blaster (once
Does SlimServer have Internet access rights in your firewall?
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Thanks for the tip. Anyone know why I can't access Internet Radio from
SlimServer 6.3.0? It appears to be my only issue before I start with
all the plug-ins that I want to put in!
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jjwrecker Wrote:
> Also, happens with the Slimserver is down (PC not booted). It seems
> that the SB wants to connect to SlimServer before full boot. If
> SlimServer is not booted, can't I get to the SqueezeNetwork straight
> away?
After the logo splash page, press up or down to get options.
Well, I just got my new Squeezebox today and set up was a breeze.
Everything is working except for the Internet Radio off of the
SlimServer. I have checked all the file types listed above and have
6.3.0 Slimserver running.
When connecting to SqueezeNetwork, Internet Radio works perfectly.
Coul
andyg Wrote:
> Can you check Server Settings -> File Types, and make sure MP3 MP3
> (built-in) is checked?
Thanks Andy...that fixed it. I don't listen to MP3 so may have
unchecked this at some point.
Jim
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Can you check Server Settings -> File Types, and make sure MP3 MP3
(built-in) is checked?
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andyg Wrote:
> All stations? Very strange. Can you post a debug log with --d_scan and
> --d_source?
Here's a sample of the log when I attempt to play several different
stations.
Thanks!
Jim
2006-07-13 08:22:32.7743 Setting maxBitRate for Downstairs to: 0
2006-07-13 08:22:32.7744 Setting maxB
If it's working some of the time the problem is likely with RadioIO, not
SlimServer.
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I have 6.2.2 and SB1 wired. For months connection to radioio had worked
flawlessly. Then recently I could not connect at all to radioio. Then
the connection worked again. But the last two evenings while listening
to it connection stopped and could not be restarted (other internet
stations worked f
All stations? Very strange. Can you post a debug log with --d_scan and
--d_source?
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I am also having problems with the Internet Radio with my 6.3
installation. If I use the Sqeezenetwork it works better. Hoping
someone has a solution
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jfo Wrote:
> I switched to 6.3 and have been unable to connect with any of the
> internet radio options except for Alien BBC, which works fine. I get a
> "can't open file" message on the SB with all stations. When I click
> play on Slimserver, nothing happens at all. This is happening on both a
>
I don't think bitrate or bandwidth is the problem. My clie has no
problem receiving streams of 256+ from local music on my computer and
some internet stations stream fine at 160. But for others, it
constantly buffers at 128K or less (although, again I have no problem
listening to these directly
ystoffman Wrote:
> At any rate can I change the buffer size used by the squeezbox?
No, this is fixed in hardware.
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At any rate can I change the buffer size used by the squeezbox?
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I also suspect your ISP. Is there a way for to to try the station you
most listen to at a lower bit-rate?
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Thanks for the information. I'll make enquiries with Tiscali.
Andy
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This thread may be of interest as it mentions Tiscali as well.
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24388
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I like to listen to a Korean Blues Station, (Bluesonair.com) and it
drops off periodically too, probably due to some server or internet
issues. Its not too annoying or I would stop listening to the stream.
I've tried other small streams with worse reliablility. The large
commercial streams like Li
Hi everyone,
Is the TS-101 with Slimserver only available for shipping in the UK, or
is there a place where we can get a hold of one in the US? I'm
definitely interested, as well as two other prospective Squeezebox
buyers I know. Thanks!
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Cool, that's what I'd hoped! Thanks for the info!
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I have two Linux based devices (the Qnap and a Nokia 770) and I know
nothing about Linux. It really isn't a problem. Copying music over,
once the Qnap is set up on your network, is done by drag and drop, cut
and paste, or ripping directly to the Qnap music directory instead of
your C:\ drive. The
Thanks for that fifer.
Do I need to know anything about LINUX to be able to use the QNAP ('cos
I don't)?
Can I rip CDs on my WinXP machine and just drag them over to the
correct directory on the QNAP; is it as simple as that?
Ta
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1. Embedded Linux
2. TS-101 has built in replication functions so you can back up
directly to your PC. Or you could connect an external USB drive and
copy the files over directly.
3. All control of the TS-101 is handled by its web front end. There is
very little to do once you have it setup on you
1. Linux.
2. I don't know. I just mirror all my music files to another drive in
my PC ... just in case. You can do the same with a USB or eSATA drive
as alternatives.
3. There isn't really much in the way of day-to-day admin. All admin
functions are accessed via a web interface from any PC on your
Thanks for the info. A couple more questions:
1) What OS does the QNAP drive run (WinXP, Linux etc)?
2) Can the QNAP drive be backed up using something like Norton Ghost?
If so, would this back up everything on the drive (OS and music
files)?
3) How do you do day to day admin of the QNAP. Is it
You should be able to do this.
However if you are just wanting to stream MP3 or WMA internet radion
stations, you can do this using the SqueezeNetwork. This will handle
the control of the SqueezeBox and tell it to play the stream directly
from the provider.
If you want to listen to RealAudio str
staresy Wrote:
> I understand that using a QNAP TS-101 network drive I can stream MP3s
> without turning on my PC.
>
> However, assuming that my wirless NW is internet enabled can I stream
> internet radio stations directly via the QNAP drive without turning on
> my main computer.
>
> The set-
The River 105.9 FM "Rock Hits"
http://a636.l1981842429.c19818.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/636/19818/v0001/reflector:42429
KISS 95.7 "Top 40"
http://a28.l1981942431.c19819.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/28/19819/v0001/reflector:42431
Country 92.5 "Country"
http://a1208.l1982242436.c19822.g.lm.akamaistream.
bpa Wrote:
> Tried the exact same command line using same URL with mplayer - now
> (10.00am BST) I get sound so I think the web connection to 702 is only
> for main listening hours or else it is unreliable.
If you try the same through Windows Media Player it works irrespective
of time of day. I
Tried the exact same command line using same URL with mplayer - now
(10.00am BST) I get sound so I think the web connection to 702 is only
for main listening hours or else it is unreliable.
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I just retested the URL with both softsqueeze and an SB3 and with
standalone mplayer. While I get connected I get no sound. These test
worked this morning.
My theory is that 702 doesn't transmit on the web except during main
listening hours.
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bpa Wrote:
> Copy the log into a post to see whether some transcoding is happening.
Here it is:
Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.34 to: 0
Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.34 to: 0
00:04:20:06:3b:a9: Switching to mode stop from stop
Already in playmode stop : ignoring mode change
Adding song ind
Hi
I've read this thread and others concerning the use of URLSnooper 2 and
have found it useful for a number of streaming sites. One I don't seem
to be able to solve is streamed audio from
http://www.702.co.za/onair/tunein/tunein.asp. The page in question has
a "LISTEN NOW!" javascript popup li
gdsqueeze Wrote:
> Again what version of firmware is running on your squeezebox ? are you
> using slimserver 6.2.1 ? or the latest 6.2.2 nightly release ? I am
> running the latest nightly release without problem accessing those
> station (when installing the latest 6.2.2 server the firmware of y
As Michael says, Slimserver won't decode Ogg natively. I don't know if
this applies to radio streams as well as .ogg files, but you may need
to install LAME on your PC to get this stream to work - it's pretty
straightforward, see the Wiki below. Upgrading to 6.2.2. may also help
- it isn't far a
See http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2368 for discussion and
workarounds. Some things called "WMA" play, some don't, and the server
can't tell which are which. Older versions of SlimServer, which simply
transcode all WMA to something else, play this stream. (I listen to
it, in fact.)
Again what version of firmware is running on your squeezebox ? are you
using slimserver 6.2.1 ? or the latest 6.2.2 nightly release ? I am
running the latest nightly release without problem accessing those
station (when installing the latest 6.2.2 server the firmware of your
squeezebox will be upd
I'm using sb3 which I bought 2 weeks ago, running on winXP home,
and the urls that you all mentioned work fine streaming with
windows media player and the player from the station's site,
http://radio-canada.ca/radio2/index.html (the "en direct" button on the
left)just can't connect with Squeez
This problem is strange, those station works fine for me, what version
of firmware are you using ?
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Try this alternative stream:
http://ms2.radio-canada.ca/EspaceMusique.ogg.m3u
But keep in mind that ogg can't be played natively by the player.
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OK - sounds like something more basic. How are you trying to tune into
the url - via the Radio Tune In box in the Help Menu of the web
interface, or some other way ?
Also, can you tell us a bit more about the setup of the box running
slimserver - PC / Window, linux ?
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I really appreciate the help guys, but it still dosen't work.
thanks,
rg
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This worked for me on softsqueeze for Espace Musique, try it.
http://ms2.radio-canada.ca:80/EspaceMusique.ogg
and Première chaine:
http://ms2.radio-canada.ca:80/PremiereChaine.ogg
Bonne Chance
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thanks for the quick reply - tried both links, and still get
"can't open file" ??
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Try this alternative stream:
http://ms2.radio-canada.ca/EspaceMusique.ogg.m3u
And for Premiere Chaine:
http://ms2.radio-canada.ca/PremiereChaine.ogg.m3u
Both should work with the SB
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The M500 will work with Slimserver 6.2.x - there are plenty of Roku user
using slimserver. If you are sure slimserver is working ok (i.e. it
works with SoftSqueeze) and the problem is related to the M500 you will
get better support on the Roku site.
As a suggestion try forcing playback using MP3
Roku officially only supports a rather dated version of slimserver. It
could well be that the version you're using does not work with the
roku.
Check the roku webpage and search this forum for specific information.
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bahnsah,
I have worked out what needed to be changed to support PNM - I'll send
you instructions and the modified files but I need to know
what OS
Version of slimserver
version of AlienBBC.
If they work for you as well I'll try to get them out into AlienBBC.
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I think I may be able to make changes to AlienBBC files for PNM but I
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bpa Wrote:
> ...although mplayer (key part of AlienBBC) can play this format, the
> "PNM://" header is not decoded by AlienBBC.
Ok, thanks for looking into it for me!
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Using the Live radio link - this station uses an old RealAudio format at
a low speed 8kb/s
pnm://audio.wntk.COM/wntk
At present RealAudio support is provided through AlienBBC and although
mplayer (key part of AlienBBC) can play this format, the "PNM://"
header is not decoded by AlienBBC.
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Does this work for stations that stream through real player?
I'm having a devil of a time trying to get the stream from
http://wntk.com (click on "Live Radio" icon on RH side) to play on SN
or "Radio tune in" on SS.
When I click on the link on the home page, it opens real player, and
none of t
I've found that some broadcasters pull from a pool of IP addresses. You
may be able to divine the IP address for the current connection. The
next time you connect, you're connecting to a different IP address or
port number.
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http://www.theheals.org/
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If you open the player alone:
http://www.mega949.com/cc-common/streaming_new/
you can view the source and get the address:
http://tinyurl.com/h2luz
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I wish I could get this program to work for me.
Here are two local stations I've been trying to grab the streams for,
but I see no mms:// links when I use url snooper on them:
http://www.mega949.com/streaming3.html
http://www.univision.com/content/channel.jhtml?chid=9514&schid=9803
If one of y
Thank you for this posting. One of the most useful I've seen so far.
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eliw Wrote:
> Is it safe to leave it like that ? won't is mess up the rest of my
> things ?
>
Yes safe to leave like that, but remember to change it when ever you
upgrade [depending on the way you upgrade the server]
All this is doing is stopping "direct streaming" for mms streams on a
SB2/SB3
Interesting enough, I had the exact same problem with a different mms:
station. I've logged the following bug,
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2529
My workaround was to go back to a prior version of the software, 6.1.??
Going back to the prior version allowed me utilize the squeez
Triode mate I owe you a beer !
It's bl**dy worked mate !
Is it safe to leave it like that ? won't is mess up the rest of my
things ?
Completely shuffed for the missus - was the only thing she wanted from
the SB3 :)
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eliw
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Given that you are on linux you can change the server code more easily.
A work around would be to modify Slim/Player/Squeezebox2.pm so that sub
canStreamDirect does the same as the softsqueeze one:
Code:
if ($handler && $handler->can("canDirectStream") &&
!$handler->is
See http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2368 for detailed
discussion. I don't know why deleting the built-in WMA from the
configuration file doesn't work, but it didn't for me, either.
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