Looks good - Managed a continuous listening session of 4 albums, from a
playlist of 18 on a system with
1796 albums with 22373 songs by 2320 artists without interruption,
which wasn't
achievable recently. No 5 minute pauses every hour, as previously.
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Please try tomorrow's nightlies to see if this improves the situation
for you. Changes are:
1) scanning code no longer stores stuff in the file cache
2) file cache split up and artwork is only purged at startup
3) only purge when all players are off [so you should not notice it]
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Any version of 6.5.1 after 10/6.
On my system(s), Windows XP enough space on C:\ but with a large
collection (300GB \ 500GB +) of tagged flacs with album art Typically
300x300 - ish, on 6.5.1 nightlies after this fix, I've noticed the
following.
At hourly intervals
How do people feel about a solution which requires a server restart to
completely purge the cache? It would purge common files while the
server is running, but only do a full purge at startup.
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Triode;150322 Wrote:
How do people feel about a solution which requires a server restart to
completely purge the cache? It would purge common files while the
server is running, but only do a full purge at startup.
Works for me.
Would it work for people running on resource constrained
I've sadly had to revert to SlimServer 6.3 with this problem still
happening.
Can you advise me if you have managed to fix it, or offer alternative
options (e.g. store cache on different drive / switch off cache / dont
cache artwork)?
Or do I have to stay on 6.3 for ever ;(
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I've sadly had to revert to SlimServer 6.3 with this problem still
happening.
What version have you been using? IMHO this is fixed. My Slimserver has
been running for two weeks now and the FileCache weighs 16MB.
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Yes this problem is fixed.
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Which version of slimserver contains the fix (I assume it is one of the
nightly versions)?
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Any version of 6.5.1 after 10/6.
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andyg;145550 Wrote:
It's probably album art. Run the cachedump script to see.
Hi andyg,
I did already run cachedump and reported the results here. Here they
are again:
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So when you ran it again did it reduce the size by a huge amount? The
same thing should now happen while running SlimServer.
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So can you post a cachedump output showing 400MB of usage?
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Hi andy
That log was with 400+ MB of usage.
Though as i said, the script took about 10 mins to run and at the end
the usage had decresed.
Cheers,
Rob
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This thread is about the /Cache/FileCache folder only - thats the cache
we are all referring to.
With SlimServer 6.3 I had a fully working SlimServer / SoftSqueeze set
up and was looking to invest in a 5-room SqueezeBox configuration
(though i have also raised a query about whether there will be
I totally deleted my install directory and installed
SlimServer_6.5_v2006-10-11.exe just now. It ran OK (though oddly its
attempt to run after install failed - i had to manually start it).
10 mins later the cache is 92MB and growing rapidly...
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Back up to 400+MB now...
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And back to SlimServer 6.3 and i have an immediately working system
again...
Seems mysql might be spoiling things for the rest of the class...
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Seems mysql might be spoiling things for the rest of the class...
MySQL has nothing to do with the FileCache.
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If you really do have 100s of GB's in your FileCache directory, the
first time you run a build of 6.5 with the cache cleanup code, it will
take a long time for it to clean out the cache. Just let it run. For
more detailed info you can run slim.exe --d_server from the command
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andyg;145320 Wrote:
If you really do have 100s of GB's in your FileCache directory, the
first time you run a build of 6.5 with the cache cleanup code, it will
take a long time for it to clean out the cache. Just let it run. For
more detailed info you can run slim.exe --d_server from the
And have you run a 6.5.1 nightly build to have it clean out the cache?
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I was running the nightly build that i mentioned. I started with a cache
of 0 (i had deleted the entire directory) and it increased over about 30
mins to 500MB, leaving no space on the C drive.
Are you saying it would gradually decrease again?
Why can't i put this huge cache on my music drive,
It's probably album art. Run the cachedump script to see.
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My first post on this forum...
I noticed my regular computer running SlimServer began having a problem
immediately after I installed 6.5 a few days ago. SlimServer runs for a
while, and then dies. This did not occur with releases in the past.
I came to this thread during my search of an answer
Oh dear.
I installed SlimServer_6.5_v2006-10-06.exe and left it running over the
weekend. I was away so SlimServer was not being used. However according
to the task tray SlimServer was not actually started.
When I came back, the cache was 430MB.
I did notice mysqld.exe running in my process
When I came back, the cache was 430MB.
What cache? We're only talking about the Cache/FileCache folder here.
There are other subfolders for the html template or for the MySQL database
files or for some plugins.
I'm also running 10-06, using it daily. The file cache is 18M, while the
DB
The OS has a 6GB partition, there is a separate 1GB partition for the
pagefile and then there plenty of GB of extra storage. Actually this
config was not my choice, but was set up by Dell at the time i got the
machine.
I know this set up is not ideal, but it seemed clear something else was
going
andyg;141719 Wrote:
So assuming we're only concerned with what's in the FileCache directory,
I've attached a quick script that lists all the keys in the cache along
with their size.
I've installed ActivePerl and the 4 Oct release of SlimServer. I left
SlimServer running overnight and the
Over the subsequent hour the cache size rose again to around 207 MB.
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I wrote this early on, but you chose to ignore it:
Mark Lanctot;141436 Wrote:
So there's obviously something wrong with your installation, but still,
if you have less than 0.5 GB of space left on your HDD (512 MB) it's
amazing your computer is running at all. You indicate you have a
rbdavis;143234 Wrote:
Over the subsequent hour the cache size rose again to around 207 MB.
I can't answer for what's in your FileCache - but it sounds like you
should focus on freeing up some space on your primary drive. Running
with 500MB free is not recommended.
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OK I think what is happening here is that expired items are not being
removed on a regular basis, because removal only happens the next time
get() is called, and if you're just playing music from your local drive
or not using SlimServer at all, it won't get called and cleaned up.
I'll take a
andyg;143258 Wrote:
or not using SlimServer at all, it won't get called and cleaned up.
That's consistent with my observations. After using SS during the day
regularly, the FileCache size is relatively small. I've only noticed it
being large after SS has been idle for quite some time.
Cheers.
OK I've added a periodic cleanup of the FileCache (at startup and once
an hour). This should keep the size at a normal level. The first time
you run SlimServer it may take a bit of time to clean out the old cache
items, but should be fast after that.
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Tonight's build, either 6.5.1 or 7.0.
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Hi - i've been away but have just caught up on this thread.
I have album artwork for 90% of the tracks in my iTunes library, so I
wonder if that could be the cause?
Actually I did used to have an odd bug with the last version of
SlimServer - it would display album artwork for some tracks but
It should not be that big. Please run my cachedump script if you'd like
to know what's using up the space.
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Out of curiosity, I checked my FileCache and it was pretty large. I ran
the cachedump script and it produced an output that contained nearly
500 lines that referenced fitstretch-100-100-0 on each line. Is this
for the resizing of the Album Art? Here are my details:
Library: 722 albums with 9653
Yes that's resized cover art.
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I may add a few stats: I've just upgraded to 6.5 and my stats are as
follows: Database: some 130 Go in some 13.000 files and the Cache is
about 1.75 Go size with 4237 folders and 12.889 files. I have no ready
comparison with 6.3.0, but I may add that some 124 files are not
read/scanned comme il
andyg;141719 Wrote:
To run this script:
Install ActivePerl if on Windows.
Place cachedump.pl in your SlimServer's 'server' directory.
Run at a command prompt: perl -Ilib -ICPAN cachedump.pl C:/Program
Files/SlimServer/server/Cache
After it's done, open up the cachedump.txt file.
Replace
Change to the server directory first:
cd \Program Files\SlimServer\server
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I had to run the command like this on my system (from the Server
directory):
perl -Ilib -ICPAN cachedump.pl C:/Program
Files/SlimServer/server/Cache
I needed to wrap the path in quotes due to the space in the Program
Files folder name.
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[shabbs]
*MP3s:* 67.2 GB / 9,653
I had tried that but thought it's inclusion made my post too long... :-(
here's the output (using your path as posted with the forward slashes):
C:\Program Files\SlimServer\serverperl -Ilib -ICPAN cachedump.pl
C:/Program Files/SlimServer/server/Cache
Directory C:/Program does not seem to
ModelCitizen;142544 Wrote:
here's the output (using your path as posted with the forward slashes):
C:\Program Files\SlimServer\serverperl -Ilib -ICPAN cachedump.pl
C:/Program Files/SlimServer/server/Cache
Directory C:/Program does not seem to contain a FileCache directory.
See my post
A .bat script run from the server directory solved the space in Program
Files for me, and I used this command:
perl -Ilib -ICPAN cachedump.pl Cache in a .bat
Just change the .txt extension on the attached to .bat and put in
server directory with cachedump.pl.
Using a batch file allows you to
Well, the script worked, but the output flummoxes me. The output
contains 153 lines of fitstretches and 9 lines of squash.
I have 1,060 folder.jpg files, each resting in the individual album
folders. Virtually all (barring mistakes) are 300 pixels by 300
pixels.
Anyway, that aside, quick
It seems the file cache size is always changing. I just checked mine now
and it's considerably smaller than before. I have been listening to
music all day and browsing the interface every now and then using
Fishbone skin. My FileCache folder is 3.39MB; 678 files; 4,342 folders.
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I spoke to soon - i haven't used SlimServer today (it was brough down
again) and the cached has gone up from an initial 25MB to 450MB again.
I'll look into running the script you mention, but i don't have the
other think you mentioned installed so might not be possible...
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This is very strange. These are the things we use the file cache for:
Cover art
HTTP responses
Parsed XML
The iTunes library is XML, isn't it?
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ModelCitizen;141559 Wrote:
My cache directory is 246mb and contains a staggering 13,981 files in
4,286 folders.
It seems that (at least) 4096 folders are sub folders of
SlimServer\server\Cache\FileCache. This folder has 16 subfolders
(called 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,a,b,c,d,e,f). Each of these
All those folders (1-F) in the cache, are they produced by Lazy Search
for indexing?
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Ramage;141609 Wrote:
All those folders (1-F) in the cache, are they produced by Lazy Search
for indexing?
To answer my own question - maybe not as I don't have the Lazy Search
on my v6.5.0. So what are they??
I don't have Lazy Search installed either. Each file seems to be
contain
Ramage;141609 Wrote:
All those folders (1-F) in the cache, are they produced by Lazy Search
for indexing?
To answer my own question - maybe not as I don't have the Lazy Search
on my v6.5.0. So what are they??
You're right - they're not. All the Lazy Search indexing goes into the
database.
Apologies Hickinbottoms - checked your webpage after the post - duuur.
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Ramage's
Ramage;141642 Wrote:
Apologies Hickinbottoms - checked your webpage after the post - duuur.
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No worries. The thing's so flippin' complicated these days I wouldn't
be surprised if it was the culprit!
I checked my FileCache and I don't remember having ever cleared it out.
It's ~50Mb, ~7000
Stuart
I agree looks like tag info. I also noticed in mine that duplicate
info from a previous scan of a different music directory has remained.
Could this account for some of the inconsistencies experienced after
repeat scans of the music directories??
What will happen if the cache is
Just to drop in on the question of the 4096 directories arranged in a
tree, that sounds like a hashmap to me. If you drill down until you
find an actual file, you'll see the first 3 characters of it's name
correspond to the directory path to find it. I'm guessing the filenames
are hashes either
Ramage;141659 Wrote:
Stuart
I agree looks like tag info. I also noticed in mine that duplicate
info from a previous scan of a different music directory has remained.
Could this account for some of the inconsistencies experienced after
repeat scans of the music directories??
What will
radish;141681 Wrote:
Just to drop in on the question of the 4096 directories arranged in a
tree, that sounds like a hashmap to me. If you drill down until you
find an actual file, you'll see the first 3 characters of it's name
correspond to the directory path to find it. I'm guessing the
So assuming we're only concerned with what's in the FileCache directory,
I've attached a quick script that lists all the keys in the cache along
with their size. The parent Cache directory also contains other things
like compiled HTML templates and the MySQL data files.
If you're interested in
If you're interested in how FileCache works, here is the documentation:
Ok, as this might be interesting for some of my plugins... This cache
doesn't care about who (which module/plugin) put stuff in there?
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Nope, as long as you don't collide with any other key.
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Nope, as long as you don't collide with any other key.
...and Slim::Utils::Cache is a wrapper around it. Considering I create my
own $cache=Slim::Utils::Cache-new and later do a $cache-cleanup, this
will run the cleanup for _all_ items in the cache, not only those created
by my plugin,
My cache size is about 24 MB with a 120 MB library, mostly mp3 and flac
- with standard tags (running on Linux). What kind of files and tags
are in your library?
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Do you really mean 0.5GB? While that sounds like a lot, if that has
meant that your disc has filled up and crashed then you were already
running pretty full?
And I don't know whether thats a lot but my system right now this
folder is showing 6824 files with 4.7MB of data occupying 27MB on the
I deleted all the files in the FileCache directory and closed
SlimServer, and when I came back my hard drive had been filled again,
disabling my computer. SlimServer's slim.exe service was still running.
I closed the service, took Slim out of my Startup folder and rebooted
my computer. Once
How long does it take to fill up?
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rbdavis;141430 Wrote:
Has SlimServer become a Trojan Horse virus, trying to destroy all our
computers?
It appears only yours...
I just installed 6.5. I have a 65 GB music library. FileCache is 2.73
MB.
So there's obviously something wrong with your installation, but still,
if you have
I have no idea what FileCache is actually holding, but on my system it's
21mb in ~5000 files. My library is ~12000 tracks taking well over 200GB.
Thus, the size of the cache doesn't seem directly linked to the size of
the library. Maybe a dev could chime in with some details of what it's
actually
Looking at the contents of the files - it is a cache of any sort of web
access - typically HTML pages but also opml.
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So maybe cache size is linked to activity rather than library size.
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I haven't actually used new version of SlimServer to do anything yet - i
have only opened the homepage. So there shouldn't be too much web access
to cache.
However I also just updated to the latest version of iTunes (just
before i updated SlimServer). Don't know if that has any bearing...?
Its
This is very strange. These are the things we use the file cache for:
Cover art
HTTP responses
Parsed XML
I think it would be useful to see what is actually in your cache when
it is that large. Would you be able to install ActivePerl and run a
small script?
My cache directory is 246mb and contains a staggering 13,981 files in
4286 folders. My library is about 350gb (mostly flac).
As I have been told to delete my cashe directory to get SlimServer to
completely rebuild it's database I assumed that it was the index of my
music. If this is the case
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