Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread tosi
Mark Lanctot;255944 Wrote: {snip} On the bright side, Logitech Harmony was looking at the server software formerly known as Jive so there might be a Harmony universal remote in the future that works like an SBC but could also be used as a universal remote. Any hints as to when one could

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread noduplicates
Below is a copy of an email I sent to SlimDevices sales and support. Users comments would be greatly appreciated as we may be able to get SlimDevices to come out with right product. --- Dear Management Designers (I hope this gets to you), I was thrilled when I saw that SlimDevices would be

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread Peter
noduplicates wrote: Below is a copy of an email I sent to SlimDevices sales and support. Users comments would be greatly appreciated as we may be able to get SlimDevices to come out with right product. --- Dear Management Designers (I hope this gets to you), I was thrilled when I saw that

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread erland
noduplicates;257107 Wrote: The SqueezeBox Controller will miss its opportunity to be a runaway hit and quash the pricier competition (Sonos). If you must make and sell this product with this small screen, I would debut a prototype on your website of a more expensive larger LCD screen

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-10 Thread noduplicates
Peter, I agree with Erland about the problems of cannabalizing sales of the current device by releasing a new one and that SlimDevices has already made a commitment to the current device. However, history and companies such as Apple have shown that building the right device the first time out

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread oyvine
Hi, this new controller seems nice. I currently have a SB2 setup at home, but find the display hard to read from some distance. I also like the album art display. I have a few questions: - Is it possible to control SoftSqueeze from the squeezebox controller?

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread Siduhe
Not sure if this is the right place to post, but will the final version of the controller support MusicIP mixes? It's the one thing missing from my current Jive install which keeps me using the supplied remote. -- Siduhe

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread Michael Herger
- Is it possible to control SoftSqueeze from the squeezebox controller? Sure. - Why dont you make a kitchen radio/music player for me? Why questions are hard to answer... Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread autopilot
ezkcdude;256353 Wrote: Will the controller be able to turn the receiver on/off? I have a jive remote now, and one of the things that bothers me is that it can't turn the SB3 on (or off). I have to use the IR remote or SlimServer. Really? I can with my beta Jive remote, i have been able to

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread ezkcdude
Will the controller be able to turn the receiver on/off? I have a jive remote now, and one of the things that bothers me is that it can't turn the SB3 on (or off). I have to use the IR remote or SlimServer. -- ezkcdude There are 10 kind of people in the world - those who understand binary and

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread kdf
On 9-Jan-08, at 4:37 AM, ezkcdude wrote: Will the controller be able to turn the receiver on/off? I have a jive remote now, and one of the things that bothers me is that it can't turn the SB3 on (or off). I have to use the IR remote or SlimServer. You should have an option to turn the

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread JulianL
I'm currently using a Dell Axim as a dedicated controller for my SB3 and it really is a dedicated device, I have no extra software installed and just have the IE home page set to SlimServerIP/Handheld. It looks to me as if, after reading all 20 pages of this thread, the new Duet controller (DC)

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread Tradewind25
Skunk;255938 Wrote: ...the glass-half-full way of looking at that is you can get both for only $100 more than the price of an Sb3... There again, the glass half empty arguement is that I already have a type of receiver and a type of controller - they are just called an SB3 and its remote

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread Peter
Tradewind25 wrote: Skunk;255938 Wrote: ...the glass-half-full way of looking at that is you can get both for only $100 more than the price of an Sb3... There again, the glass half empty arguement is that I already have a type of receiver and a type of controller - they are just

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread aubuti
Tradewind25;256485 Wrote: What is the point of having an SB3 if it lacks the expandibility of the Duet?? As Peter has pointed out, the expandability of the SB3 and the SBR (Squeezebox receiver) are identical. Why else have an SB3? Some people don't want to spend the money on the SBC (the new

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread kdf
Quoting Tradewind25 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just think it a shame that Logitech appear to have effectively made the SB3 obsolete. What is the point of having an SB3 if it lacks the expandibility of the Duet?? There is no obsolescence, and the SB3 is as expandable as it's always been. I

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread kdf
Quoting Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, perhaps slimserver 1.0 ;) I'll do you one better and suggest that on most days, SlimServer or SqueezeCenter is obsolete by the time the next nightly build comes out :) My slimp3 still works as it did on day one. In fact, thanks to the software

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread Mitch Harding
The point is that the SB3 has a display on every unit. I don't see how it has been made obsolete... On Jan 9, 2008 12:20 PM, Tradewind25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just think it a shame that Logitech appear to have effectively made the SB3 obsolete. What is the point of having an SB3 if it

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread Phil Leigh
Tradewind25;256485 Wrote: There again, the glass half empty arguement is that I already have a type of receiver and a type of controller - they are just called an SB3 and its remote control. All want to do is to add another, low-cost, receiver. Who's to say that, were I to purchase the new

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread wtfaidh
So much talk about the interface/controller. My primary concern is audio quality (I own 2 SB3's but ditched the transporter). Is the Wolfson DAC (does anybody know the exact type ?) an improvement or quite the contrary... ? Is there more to say about audio quality on this product ? Because if

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread autopilot
JulianL;256462 Wrote: I'm currently using a Dell Axim as a dedicated controller for my SB3 and it really is a dedicated device, I have no extra software installed and just have the IE home page set to SlimServerIP/Handheld. It looks to me as if, after reading all 20 pages of this thread, the

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread Peter
wtfaidh wrote: So much talk about the interface/controller. My primary concern is audio quality (I own 2 SB3's but ditched the transporter). Is the Wolfson DAC (does anybody know the exact type ?) an improvement or quite the contrary... ? Is there more to say about audio quality on this

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread Ben Sandee
On Jan 9, 2008 2:13 PM, wtfaidh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So much talk about the interface/controller. My primary concern is audio quality (I own 2 SB3's but ditched the transporter). Is the Wolfson DAC (does anybody know the exact type ?) an improvement or quite the contrary... ? Is

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread wtfaidh
The transporter is, IMHO, to expensive compared to a same priced CD player. The SB3 is superb in everyday-easy-to-use. For me improving SBx audio quality would make the difference, not the interface... -- wtfaidh

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread Phil Leigh
From what has been stated so far it would appear that the sound quality of the Receiver and the SB3 are pretty much identical. So this is not about sound quality, it is about user experience and operational functionality. Nothing wrong with that. The Transporter is about sound quality.

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread Mitch Harding
The DAC measures slightly worse, from what has been written, but most people have said it sounds quite good. The digital path is identical, so if you're using your own DAC, it should be equivalent. But if audio quality in the analog domain is your primary concern, I would suggest a Transporter

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread wtfaidh
Peter;256540 Wrote: wtfaidh wrote:[color=blue] Audio quality is hardly a subjective matter. Whole flamewars can be fought over this. SD claims it's the same quality. Please buy one and let us know what you think so the flamewars may start ;) Regards, Peter True, and I will buy one

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread thing-fish
autopilot;256517 Wrote: The reasons it beats all the other devices for me are; 1) Always on wifi - because it mostly in the dock wifi is always on - other devices like the PSP, PDA etc constantly lose the connection when idle - it takes a few seconds to log on and drives me mad when i

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread CardinalFang
thing-fish;256567 Wrote: Note that even though those were dealbreakers for the most part, it WAS fun to use the DS to control the music. It actually looked good and was quite operational, but only while it was a live connection. I've tried the PSP and smartphones and also suffered the same

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread Fifer
wtfaidh;256552 Wrote: The transporter is, IMHO, to expensive compared to a same priced CD player. The SB3 is superb in everyday-easy-to-use. I'm not sure I understand this comment. You are saying that the £1300 TP is too expensive to compare with a £1300 CD player? Why? -- Fifer

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread BetterDAC
I really like this new product announcement, but there are some things I wish they would improve on. The good: They have had an obvious needed for a hand-held controller with a visual screen for quite a while. They have delivered on that nicely with the new SB Controller. The Duet is perfectly

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread rtitmuss
BetterDAC;256578 Wrote: I think they should have enabled the embedded DAC within the controller so that we could use it for a headphone, or similar. To leave it to the “community of developers” is more reflective of the start-up roots of SD than of the professional capabilities of Logitech

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread bigfool1956
Most of the views on the new Duet are based on us being current users. Here's a different viewpoint I had persuaded a colleague of mine that an SB3 would be a good purchase for him, and he was going to get one over Xmas. As it happens he didn't get round to it, so after the break I

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread Mark Lanctot
BetterDAC;256578 Wrote: The Wolfson DAC is a disappointment for those of us that like audiophile sound but prefer the convenience of digital streaming. Why not go with the Transporter then? Unlike their other devices, SD didn’t even bother to name what Wolfson DAC they are using, perhaps

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread Skunk
BetterDAC;256578 Wrote: Thus we’d like to get the most out of our digital recordings and the DAC is the weak link right now. So for me that’s the biggest disappointment since it seems they may be targeting a different customer than us streaming audiophiles. I don't see it that way because

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread ezkcdude
kdf;256430 Wrote: On 9-Jan-08, at 4:37 AM, ezkcdude wrote: Will the controller be able to turn the receiver on/off? I have a jive remote now, and one of the things that bothers me is that it can't turn the SB3 on (or off). I have to use the IR remote or SlimServer. You should

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread kdf
Quoting ezkcdude [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't. Does that mean I have an old version of the controller? I've upgraded the software several times. ??? ok, so here we go... What is the SC build number (check server settings for the version string) What is the jive build number? See

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread bpa
Something is not right. Turn on/off XXX is usually below Choose Player or Extras if you only have one player. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread ezkcdude
kdf;256617 Wrote: Quoting ezkcdude ezkcdude.32y0cz1199922301 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com: I don't. Does that mean I have an old version of the controller? I've upgraded the software several times. ??? ok, so here we go... What is the SC build number (check server

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread mikerob
A couple of questions - will it be possible to generate MusicIP playlists using the Squeezebox Controller? (you can do this by holding down the play button on the current IR remote) - planned date for UK availability of Squeezebox Controller? -- mikerob

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread Skunk
ezkcdude;256620 Wrote: SC build number? I don't see that anywhere. Under About Jive, it says the following: From the web interface: SettingsStatus -- Skunk http://www.last.fm/user/TheSkunk/ Skunk's Profile:

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread ezkcdude
Skunk;256623 Wrote: From the web interface: SettingsStatus Do you mean SlimServer or the Jive remote? Either way I can't find any menu that says Status. -- ezkcdude There are 10 kind of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who don't. SHINYMETAL '*Site*'

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread Skunk
ezkcdude;256625 Wrote: Do you mean SlimServer or the Jive remote? Either way I can't find any menu that says Status. Squeezecenter. At the bottom right is settings. The link looks like a gear. In settings is status. -- Skunk http://www.last.fm/user/TheSkunk/

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread ezkcdude
Skunk;256626 Wrote: Squeezecenter. At the bottom right is settings. The link looks like a gear. In settings is status. I remember something about Squeezecenter, but I don't think I have it. Is that a replacement for SlimServer? -- ezkcdude There are 10 kind of people in the world - those

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread IRJ
It's my understanding that a WiFi router is only as fast as the units it speaks to. i.e. If you have a N WiFi router and you match it with one say SBC or SBR maxing at G speeds then the whole system defaults to max G speeds. I ask because the SBC appears to be on 100% of the time. Am I way out

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread kdf
Quoting IRJ [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am I way out here? I know that was the case with 802.11G, that having any device on the network with 802.11B caused a dramatic slow down (although completely down to B). I don't know what the draft N claims, but my specific router (Belkin Pre-N) claims to

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread kdf
ezkcdude;256629 Wrote: I remember something about Squeezecenter, but I don't think I have it. Is that a replacement for SlimServer? Edit: Ok, I realized SqueezeCenter is the newest version of SlimServer 7.0. I hadn't gotten around to installing it, so I'm doing so now. Let's see what

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread ezkcdude
kdf;256634 Wrote: Part of the expectation of the Beta program was to keep up with the changes. You've missed out on a lot by staying at v477 of Jive. There were a few tricky updates along the way, which I hope don't leave you stuck now. If you have an sdcard handy, that will probably

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread BetterDAC
Mark Lanctot;256592 Wrote: Why not go with the Transporter then? Becasue the Transporter is $2,000 and SB Receiver is $150. I was looking for a good solution for several rooms, and the Transporter isn't priced right for that. All they had to do was invest another $3 per Receiver and

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread BetterDAC
Skunk;256596 Wrote: I don't see it that way because most audiophiles had the SB3 connected to an external DAC anyway. Even a lot of non-audiophiles just connect it to a HT receiver, negating the quality of the built in converter. Comparing the SB3 to Squeezebox Receiver you get the same

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread seanadams
BetterDAC;256642 Wrote: I use an external DAC for my stereo system, but I am not going to make that kind of investment for multiple rooms in my house. Nor do I need that level of music in those other rooms. The SB receiver is priced perfect for multiple rooms, and they could have really

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread Mitch Harding
Have you had a chance to compare the SB3 DAC to the SBR DAC? How audible is the difference? On Jan 9, 2008 8:25 PM, BetterDAC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But given the DAC that SD chose, it seems to me that Slim assumes their target customers primarily listen to lossy compressed music.

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread ezkcdude
BetterDAC;256641 Wrote: Mark Lanctot;256592 Wrote: Why not go with the Transporter then? Becasue the Transporter is $2,000 and SB Receiver is $150. I was looking for a good solution for several rooms, and the Transporter isn't priced right for that. All they had to do was invest

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread kdf
On 9-Jan-08, at 5:46 PM, ezkcdude wrote: Yeah, I was busy the last several months as I had to move for a new job. You're right about missing out on a lot, though! The improvements made are quite substantial, not the least of which is the on/off feature. phew. I had this vision that you

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread BetterDAC
ezkcdude;256648 Wrote: BetterDAC;256641 Wrote: What qualifies you to make this judgement? I am able to understand the difference between $2,000 and $150. -- BetterDAC BetterDAC's Profile:

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread snarlydwarf
BetterDAC;256653 Wrote: I am able to understand the difference between $2,000 and $150. I believe ezkcdude was asking for why you stated this: it was natural to expect a better DAC than the SB3. Why do you believe the SBR has a worse DAC than the SB3? -- snarlydwarf

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread Skunk
Does the lack of VFD (and its processor/memory usage) make 24/96 playback any more likely? -- Skunk http://www.last.fm/user/TheSkunk/ Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread BetterDAC
snarlydwarf;256655 Wrote: I believe ezkcdude was asking for why you stated this: Why do you believe the SBR has a worse DAC than the SB3? I shouldn't say it's worse. In fact the specs from the Wolfson website show that it has some good features, but it seems that Slim doesn't take full

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread Ben Sandee
On Jan 9, 2008 10:50 PM, BetterDAC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I shouldn't say it's worse. In fact the specs from the Wolfson website show that it has some good features, but it seems that Slim doesn't take full advantage of them. At least not yet. But given the criticism that the SB3 didn't

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-09 Thread erland
mikerob;256621 Wrote: - will it be possible to generate MusicIP playlists using the Squeezebox Controller? (you can do this by holding down the play button on the current IR remote) Launching MusicIP mixes from the SqueezeBox Controller doesn't work in the current software, but this is

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread Tradewind25
I have a Squeezebox 3. I wish to add one of the new Receivers in another room, and ideally synchronize the two. Can I achieve this with my current SB3 remote, or would I also need to purchase one of the new Controllers? (I think I read that the Receiver requires the Controller to configure

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread James_B
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/video-logitech-squeezebox-duet/ -- James_B James_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11309 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread NickP
Can the text on the controller be made bigger? Some of us here have less than stellar eyesight and variable font size is a blessing. -- NickP NickP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9123 View

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread Tradewind25
James_B;255899 Wrote: http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/video-logitech-squeezebox-duet/ QUOTE] Thanks for the link, but nor sure this does anything to answer my question. -- Tradewind25 Geoff J. Tradewind25's

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread Skunk
Tradewind25;255864 Wrote: I have a Squeezebox 3. I wish to add one of the new Receivers in another room, and ideally synchronize the two. Can I achieve this with my current SB3 remote, or would I also need to purchase one of the new Controllers? (I think I read that the Receiver requires

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread cparker
Well maybe I missed something amazing about this, but it just seems to be a big clunky remote, based on a early ipod design but just large enough to ensure they can emboss a logo on it. What happened to elegance in design?? :s Buying a Nokia 770 would do the same but with more features right?

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread tamanaco
Fifer;255902 Wrote: Sorry Peter, but for those of us who agree with it (and there are many) it's far from worn out. For us, it's the truth. I'm somewhere in between in this argument. I expected the controller also be good AV System remote given that SD is now part of Logitech. I'd still have

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread Mark Lanctot
bretonfou;255058 Wrote: The new commander look to me as a mere wifi micro PDA, ideally one could control any streaming media server with any form of computing device with communication facility (it could be my macbook, a bluetooth phone, a wifi phone, a pda or what people calle a smart

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread Mark Lanctot
GCFL;254822 Wrote: can anyone tell me if the controller will be able to be used (or possibly modified) as a universal remote (to access the CD player, etc.)? Apologies if this has been answered already but I'm just going through this thread - there are no official plans to include universal

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread Rick B .
Mark Lanctot;255944 Wrote: On the bright side, Logitech Harmony was looking at the server software formerly known as Jive so there might be a Harmony universal remote in the future that works like an SBC but could also be used as a universal remote. Hope springs eternal! This is what I

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread Mark Lanctot
gorman;255746 Wrote: Regarding Softsqueeze... anyone knows if the Controller is capable of interfacing with it? Well, SoftSqueeze behaves like a hardware player, and the controller can access all hardware players, so it should be possible. I haven't tried it with the beta version of the

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread Mark Lanctot
toby10;27 Wrote: Adding just some simple IR learning would be sufficient for my purposes. Unfortunately the IR hardware in the controller is an emitter only, no receiver so no learning function. However the SB (not the new receiver) has a learning function through the IRBlaster plugin so

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread Skunk
tamanaco;255940 Wrote: I wanna hold my beer in one hand and the remote in the other. I want to be able to throw it to my wife with one hand without spilling any of my beer, so the remote has to be sturdy. While throwing probably isn't a good idea -unless she's a better than average catcher-

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread Peter
cparker wrote: Well maybe I missed something amazing about this, but it just seems to be a big clunky remote, based on a early ipod design but just large enough to ensure they can emboss a logo on it. What happened to elegance in design?? :s Buying a Nokia 770 would do the same but with

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread rblnr
How's the jitter performance of the SBR vs. the SB3/2? -- rblnr rblnr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4504 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread Mitch Harding
I believe Sean has said that the digital path is basically identical, although there are differences in PSUs. FWIW, the spec page lists less than 50 ps (standard deviation) for both SB3 and SBR. On Jan 8, 2008 10:41 AM, rblnr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How's the jitter performance of the SBR vs.

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread Mark Lanctot
Oh I should say - congratulations to the Logitech SMS people! This does seem to answer several user requests - a headless SB, a lower-priced SB (but without cutting corners) and a graphical wifi remote, with a colour screen that displays album art. -- Mark Lanctot Sean Adams: So you mean,

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread Mitch Harding
Not currently. From all reports the SBC interface is far more responsive than the web interface (via Nokia 770 or otherwise). Many people have reported that the N770 works, but is a little unresponsive. On Jan 8, 2008 8:14 AM, cparker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Buying a Nokia 770 would do the

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread Mark Lanctot
tamanaco;256010 Wrote: Heck, we don't even know for sure if they plan to incorporate it. They've said pretty clearly that they do not plan to incorporate it. The SBC is not a universal remote. It lacks the hard buttons and doesn't have a touchscreen. This doesn't mean that the community

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread tamanaco
Mark Lanctot;255967 Wrote: Unfortunately the IR hardware in the controller is an emitter only, no receiver so no learning function. However the SB (not the new receiver) has a learning function through the IRBlaster plugin so there is a convoluted pathway involving an SB, IRBlaster and an

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread Robin Bowes
Skunk wrote: Tradewind25;255864 Wrote: I have a Squeezebox 3. I wish to add one of the new Receivers in another room, and ideally synchronize the two. Can I achieve this with my current SB3 remote, or would I also need to purchase one of the new Controllers? (I think I read that the

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread radish
Mark Lanctot;256011 Wrote: They've said pretty clearly that they do not plan to incorporate it. The SBC is not a universal remote. It lacks the hard buttons and doesn't have a touchscreen. Sure, they're unlikely to incorporate Harmony functionality in the SBC, but I don't see why they

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread tforce
Will the Duet be available in stores or only on the internet? -- tforce tforce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12666 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread mrfantasy
Mark Lanctot;255966 Wrote: Well, SoftSqueeze behaves like a hardware player, and the controller can access all hardware players, so it should be possible. I haven't tried it with the beta version of the controller though. It works fine at least in the Windows SDK version of the Controller

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread dean blackketter
On Jan 8, 2008, at 10:16 AM, tforce wrote: Will the Duet be available in stores or only on the internet? Duet will be available in both retail and online stores around the world, though the specific retailers haven't been announced yet. The individual Receiver and Controller units will also

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread snarlydwarf
radish;256029 Wrote: Sure, they're unlikely to incorporate Harmony functionality in the SBC, but I don't see why they couldn't build a new Harmony with Jive built in. That could be rather sweet. I know a couple Harmony devs are at least looking at Jive since they posted here. No idea

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread Mark Lanctot
I took the opportunity to add the Squeezebox Receiver here: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?HardwareComparison Correct away if you see any inaccuracies. Some of it was guesswork since the SBR isn't officially released. -- Mark Lanctot Sean Adams: So you mean, aside from the fact that

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread ds2021
wdrazek;256124 Wrote: So, Sonos is $750 per additional room whereas Duet is $399. As it does not appear that you must have a separate controller for each receiver, the cost per additional room is actually $150 (149). -- ds2021

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread wdrazek
For those who claim Duet is out of touch with real world pricing in the US, consider: The Duet provides what the SB3 does, but has a vastly improved color screen handheld remote control for $100 more at $399. Sonos charges $900 for its base system, but does include a low power built in digital

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread Mitch Harding
There is a headphone jack on the controller. On Jan 8, 2008 3:36 PM, Mike Siegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jack on the Controller? mvalera;254681 Wrote: I'm happy to announce that we have launched the all new Squeezebox™ Duet! Squeezebox™ Duet lets you listen to the music you love in

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread Mike Siegel
I saw it asked elsewhere, but didn't see a response: Is that a headphone jack on the Controller? mvalera;254681 Wrote: I'm happy to announce that we have launched the all new Squeezebox™ Duet! Squeezebox™ Duet lets you listen to the music you love in any room in your home. Access

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread erland
To those that likes the SqueezeBox Controller to be a universal remove I can honestly say that I had the exact same idea until I felt the Jive prototype. After having the chance to use the Jive prototype I've changed my feelings a bit. A Harmony remote based on Jive software would be really

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread nicky6
Jim, thanks for the answer! I didn't want to try locate the info myself in the JHive-threads and besides, I think it's good for others to read in this duet-thread instead of trying to search for the info and perhaps not finding it. So thanks to you and bklaas for clearing this out. And good to

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread Mitch G
erland;256144 Wrote: To those that likes the SqueezeBox Controller to be a universal remove I can honestly say that I had the exact same idea until I felt the Jive prototype. After having the chance to use the Jive prototype I've changed my feelings a bit. A Harmony remote based on Jive

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread Mike Siegel
Is the Controller basically a handheld receiver that doubles as a controller for different SB devices? Mitch Harding;256146 Wrote: There is a headphone jack on the controller. On Jan 8, 2008 3:36 PM, Mike Siegel Mike.Siegel.32vzwo1199828403 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-08 Thread Mitch Harding
My understanding is that the headphone jack currently cannot be used to play streaming music, but it sounds like that will be enabled eventually. On Jan 8, 2008 4:38 PM, Mike Siegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the Controller basically a handheld receiver that doubles as a controller for

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-07 Thread smg
I’ve read somewhere, that like the SB3, the Controller is always on. With my SB3, however, I can at least switch it off at the mains at the end of day or when it isn’t being used for an extended period. Does this mean that the controller can’t be switched off at all? -- smg

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-07 Thread Peter
smg wrote: I’ve read somewhere, that like the SB3, the Controller is always on. With my SB3, however, I can at least switch it off at the mains at the end of day or when it isn’t being used for an extended period. Does this mean that the controller can’t be switched off at all? Yes it

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-07 Thread funkstar
The reciever is always on... appart from when you pull the plug :) The remote us usually on, and goes into power save when not in use (the accelerometer wakes it up when you pick it up, very cool). You can switch it off though. The home button acts as a power button as well. Holding it down will

Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet

2008-01-07 Thread smg
Peter;255463 Wrote: smg wrote: I’ve read somewhere, that like the SB3, the Controller is always on. With my SB3, however, I can at least switch it off at the mains at the end of day or when it isn’t being used for an extended period. Does this mean that the controller can’t be

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