Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-22 Thread nicketynick
Wouldn't it just be easier to use SoftSqueeze? Once the player is connected to SS, you could adjust whatever settings for that player/ip, and they could browse/listen to your music as though they were sitting in your living room. Why should they even use the SS Web UI? -- nicketynick

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-22 Thread azinck3
nicketynick;189456 Wrote: Wouldn't it just be easier to use SoftSqueeze? Once the player is connected to SS, you could adjust whatever settings for that player/ip, and they could browse/listen to your music as though they were sitting in your living room. Why should they even use the SS

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-22 Thread nicketynick
azinck3;189460 Wrote: That's mostly true, but I assumed that with MrSinatra's emphasis on simple that he wouldn't want to force people to install a new piece of software or learn how to use softsqueeze (after all, if Slimserver's too complex for these users then who's to say softsqueeze

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-22 Thread azinck3
nicketynick;189465 Wrote: That's the point - all the nit-picky stuff can be set by whoever is 'controlling' the server! This is no less true with mp3 streaming. -- azinck3 azinck3's Profile:

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-22 Thread nicketynick
No, no, it was probably me with an antagonistic tone! Sorry. I was imagining differently, and it seemed to me Softsqueeze was the easier way. I think the problem with stream.mp3 is that the user has to use the webUI for playlist generation, etc. which is to be avoided - no telling what else

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-22 Thread 4mula1
To a degree the whole idea of using Softsqueeze brings up a point that some people have wanted: an easy way to duplicate player settings. As it stands now, when I change SlimServer to a different version I have to change all of the menu, display, and audio settings for 2 SB3s and 2 Softsqueeze

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-22 Thread azinck3
4mula1;189484 Wrote: To a degree the whole idea of using Softsqueeze brings up a point that some people have wanted: an easy way to duplicate player settings. As it stands now, when I change SlimServer to a different version I have to change all of the menu, display, and audio settings for

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-21 Thread Sike
What would be great if you could open a port on your router and ten connect a Squeezebox from work by just entering the mysqbox.dyndns.com in the squeezebox and log in using a pre defined Username/password... Just imagane being able to set up a squeezebox connected to your music collection from

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-21 Thread MrSinatra
i have mentioned this before, but i really would appreciate it if SD would create a way for me locally to control and configure SS's public face... in that way, i could set the bitrate, give them the skin i want them to see, and simply let the person connect to the addy i give them, and either

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-21 Thread azinck3
MrSinatra;189335 Wrote: i have mentioned this before, but i really would appreciate it if SD would create a way for me locally to control and configure SS's public face... in that way, i could set the bitrate, give them the skin i want them to see, and simply let the person connect to the

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-21 Thread MrSinatra
azinck3;189342 Wrote: I don't really understand your request. I think that's because I don't understand the use case here...why are these random people connecting to your copy of slimserver? ok, let me explain, it isn't random people, its friends or people i want to show it to, but it COULD

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-21 Thread MillmoorRon
Have you considered launching a pirate radio station but only telling your mates? -- MillmoorRon MillmoorRon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6413 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-21 Thread azinck3
MrSinatra;189349 Wrote: ok, let me explain, it isn't random people, its friends or people i want to show it to, but it COULD be random people if i wanted it to be... the way i understand SS to work, is that it uses sessions kinda like XP does. so i could be sitting here locally

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-21 Thread Robin Bowes
MrSinatra wrote: does this make more sense? It explains what your particular use-case is. However, Slimserver isn't designed to do what you want it to do, which is why you consider it confusing. R. ___ discuss mailing list

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-21 Thread MrSinatra
azinck3;189365 Wrote: This sort of functionality is well outside the design parameters of slimserver which is designed to serve and support slim devices' hardware (SB/transporter) THEY are the ones who put the ability to stream a stream to someone on the net, including supporting a software

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-21 Thread azinck3
I didn't really explain one of the things I said very well: Slimserver does not associate a particular viewer with a particular player. All viewers (and yes, there can be an unlimited number of viewers -- all you're doing is making page requests) are peers who have full access to all of

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-21 Thread azinck3
MrSinatra;189370 Wrote: allow me to restate my request entriely, and tell me if this is something not too far from SS now: i would like the ability to control locally the skin and the settings (like bitrate limiting) for any single remote user who happens to listen to my SS. as it is

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-21 Thread Robin Bowes
MrSinatra wrote: i would like the ability to control locally the skin and the settings (like bitrate limiting) for any single remote user who happens to listen to my SS. That's a reasonable request - others have asked for similar things. Try searching enhancement requests or raising a new

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-19 Thread BigTony
Well now I am Mr Happy - I recieved my SB3 on Sunday (Thank You Her Indoors) so now I have to work on sorting all my tag info out, whilst listening at home and work. Oh great Joy :-) BT -- BigTony BigTony's Profile:

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-15 Thread chris . mason
This sounds like its getting increasingly complicated... Work firewall issues aside, all you should need to do to allow audio streaming remotely (from your home slimserver to you at work) is this: 1. Configure your router firewall to forward incoming TCP port 9000 traffic to port 9000 on the

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-15 Thread azinck3
Good, comprehensive description, Chris. Two small things to add: chris.mason;188018 Wrote: 4. Open your media player, and point it at http://your home ip address:9000/steam.mp3 there's a typo there, it should be stream.mp3 Also, to use softsqueeze rather than stream.mp3 (you want to use

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-15 Thread BigTony
Many thanks for all your helpful comments and suggestions. Having now tried everything apart for SSH tunnel, it looks like a tunnel is required. I have no joy with anything so far, always getting the same 'connection timed out' problem. I did get a hamachi connection to link my home to work pc,

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-15 Thread chris . mason
azinck3;188023 Wrote: Good, comprehensive description, Chris. Two small things to add: there's a typo there, it should be stream.mp3 Also, to use softsqueeze rather than stream.mp3 (you want to use softsqueeze, trust me, stream.mp3 is a strange and horrible beast) you'll need to

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-15 Thread azinck3
chris.mason;188028 Wrote: Could you elaborate on why stream.mp3 is strange and/or horrible? I steam internet radio (typically shoutcast and lastfm stuff), and my music via mp3 to work. I usually throttle it to 160kb so as not to affect my home upload bandwidth (other people at home use the

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-15 Thread azinck3
BigTony;188027 Wrote: I have forwared ports 9000 and 3483 on my router, and I can listen to internet radion on SS at home. To be clear, port forwarding doesn't really have any bearing on your access to slimserver within your own LAN. The port forwarding you've set up is what allows devices

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-15 Thread BigTony
I can access my PC from a wirless acess point (so not from my home network). Anyways - just to add to the fun I have Actually Got It To Work :-) I resorted to SSH tunnel - wasn't to tricky to setup. However, music is choppy as hell ... do I need to flip some valves on SS on my home pc? I made

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-15 Thread azinck3
BigTony;188046 Wrote: I can access my PC from a wirless acess point (so not from my home network). Anyways - just to add to the fun I have Actually Got It To Work :-) I resorted to SSH tunnel - wasn't to tricky to setup. However, music is choppy as hell ... do I need to flip some valves

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-15 Thread nicketynick
Way to go Big Tony! Which set of directions did you use to set up SSH? As much as chris.mason assures us its straightforward, I'm still intimidated - it looks like the kind of thing where I could manage to irreparably break something, and lose all functionality! -- nicketynick Wireless SB3,

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-15 Thread shadowboxer
nicketynick;188051 Wrote: Way to go Big Tony! Which set of directions did you use to set up SSH? As much as chris.mason assures us its straightforward, I'm still intimidated - it looks like the kind of thing where I could manage to irreparably break something, and lose all functionality! I

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-15 Thread chris . mason
shadowboxer;188053 Wrote: I second that request! I have hamachi working most of the time. Wondering if ssh would be effective and would love to know where and which ssh program you downloaded. thanks in advance dale It is straight forward, honest! Would I lie to you..? ;-) I think

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-15 Thread shadowboxer
azinck3;188050 Wrote: Great! You need to turn on bitrate limiting. If you go to your slimserver web page you should see your new player listed on the left. Click it to edit the player settings. Go to the audio settings. Turn bitrate limiting down to 128kbps or something like

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-15 Thread chris . mason
azinck3;188035 Wrote: I'm surprised you haven't run into the awkwardness of stream.mp3. Perhaps some streaming clients work better than others. This is why I don't like it: 1) Setting bitrate limiting for the first time is a little strange. You have to connect to your server, then

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-15 Thread BigTony
Well I really must give a big thank you to everyone thats helped me to finally get music streaming here in my office .. now I can happily listen to Zappa all day :-) I just hope that the IT wrecking crew don't start poking about and tell me to switch it all off. A few points that were not clear

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-15 Thread nicketynick
BigTony;188074 Wrote: 5) If you can't get onto http://HOME_PC:9000 straight away - don't muck about - go for a SSH tunnel, it works and it was the easiest of the options I've had to setup this week (took about an hour) So I take it you used the instructions chris.mason pointed to for

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-15 Thread BigTony
Yes, that and a tutorial I was also pointed to, but it was really quite easy on windows XP. Cheers BT -- BigTony BigTony's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10638 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-15 Thread shadowboxer
BigTony;188074 Wrote: To view your home SlimServer via your tunnel or VPN, TURN off local proxy or such like settings, that sure did waste a few hours of my time. Not sure how I can switch them on/off in IE, but when the system is set up and running you don't need to log onto SS as much.

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-15 Thread chris . mason
Very glad that you've got this working! I feel I should stress though that you should really avoid opening your slimserver directly to the world through ports 9000 and 3483.It presents a security risk. Using SSH (or VPN) is a much safer approach. -- chris.mason

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-15 Thread agentsmith
Is there anyway to have a squeezebox directly accessing a remote slimserver using Hamachi? -- agentsmith SB2/Pioneer DV-S733A - Benchmark DAC1 - Naim Nait 5i - Naim Ariva Speakers. Storage via Buffalo 250GB LANStation, Linksys NSLU2 300GB USB drive, 720GB RAID One USB drive, Slimserver in

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-15 Thread azinck3
agentsmith;188213 Wrote: Is there anyway to have a squeezebox directly accessing a remote slimserver using Hamachi? No, you have to go through a proxy of some sort because the SB can't do the encryption. -- azinck3

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-13 Thread BigTony
Thanks for all your helpful comments, but I'm still no closer to geting it to work. I used port forwarding on my home system, for the required ports through my router. I also checked my external IP address to make sure I was trying to connect with the correct one, but I still get timed out

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-13 Thread Mark Lanctot
It's down to two firewalls then: your own at home and your employers'. Your own at home will not allow SlimServer to communicate out to the Internet without you specifically allowing it to. And your employer's firewall often blocks the needed ports. This you can't change, you'll have to work

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-13 Thread shadowboxer
BigTony;187328 Wrote: Dear All, Having just become a convert to SS, I also would like to listen to music at work. I have had a go browsing the forums, but I seem to have spent a good few hours and I'm not really any nearer what it is I need to do. My Setup: SS running on my PC at

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-13 Thread 4mula1
A good step at this point may be to verify that your home network can be connected to from outside the walled garden. Try to access it from a computer that is a friend's or relative's just to make sure it does work as expected. This way you are outside of your employer's network and don't have

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-13 Thread BigTony
Thanks for the Hamachi link. I have tried that but still not joy, when I try and ping the network between my office and home, I get request timed out error. Looks like my office firewall has the better of me. Cheers BT -- BigTony

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-13 Thread Mark Lanctot
BigTony;187575 Wrote: Thanks for the Hamachi link. I have tried that but still not joy, when I try and ping the network between my office and home, I get request timed out error. Looks like my office firewall has the better of me. Cheers BT I thought Hamachi works over port 80, i.e.

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-13 Thread BigTony
'Does your home SlimServer have full Internet access on your home PC? You avoided that question earlier.' erm .. not sure what the answer is ... how do I check this? I forwarded the ports on my router (3483 and 9000) I can use the server from within my home network, but I've not tried to

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-13 Thread Mark Lanctot
BigTony;187585 Wrote: Humm, do I need to use http://My_External_IP:9000/ on a PC at home to see if I can see the server from the outside.. That kind of loopback doesn't usually work. Here's something that's easier to try: play Internet radio through SlimServer. If you can play Internet

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-13 Thread shadowboxer
BigTony;187575 Wrote: Thanks for the Hamachi link. I have tried that but still not joy, when I try and ping the network between my office and home, I get request timed out error. Looks like my office firewall has the better of me. Cheers BT BigTony: You have hamachi installed both

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-13 Thread Peter
shadowboxer wrote: BigTony;187328 Wrote: Dear All, Having just become a convert to SS, I also would like to listen to music at work. I have had a go browsing the forums, but I seem to have spent a good few hours and I'm not really any nearer what it is I need to do. My Setup: SS

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-12 Thread 4mula1
First off make sure there aren't any firewall settings that are interfering with the connection. If you have port forwarding set in your router (correctly) you either have a firewall problem or aren't allowing hosts other than localhost to connect. I don't know exactly where that setting is but

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-12 Thread azinck3
BigTony;187328 Wrote: Things I 'think' in need to do : Portforward 9000 (and the other port) to my router You're on the right track. Forward the two ports and also be sure that you're using the right ip address for your computer at home: you'll need to find your global IP address

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-12 Thread fathom39
Remote streaming, SSH, firewall, etc... what a hassle! And nothing more than a solution looking for a problem. Just get a portable player (or USB hard drive) and plug it into your PC or speakers at work. Side benefit: you can listen to your collection in your car on the way to work. --

Re: [slim] Connecting to Slimserver at Work

2007-03-12 Thread adamslim
fathom39;187413 Wrote: Remote streaming, SSH, firewall, etc... what a hassle! And nothing more than a solution looking for a problem. Just get a portable player (or USB hard drive) and plug it into your PC or speakers at work. Side benefit: you can listen to your collection in your car