JimC;244472 Wrote:
We're working with all of the serious players in the area of
internet-based music and can support the appropriate ones, once the
Byzantine licensing structures in Europe are fixed. The CRB here in
the U.S might be a pain, and may not fully grasp the value of internet
I bought my first SB3 a few months ago to replace a Netgear MP101, and
I've just bought my second.
I use iTunes/iPod, so when I set it up (6.5.3 at the time) I ticked
use iTunes and after the scan it was good to go. Dead easy. I think
the default options are good; if you use
DHCP and all your
JimC;244252 Wrote:
And we're doing a LOT of work in the SqueezeNetwork area, so you'll see
it continue to improve and evolve.
-= Jim
That's good to hear Jim, but I still think the levels of support for
SB3 are crucial to its success in the wider marketplace.
I'll shut up now!
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JimC;244252 Wrote:
Actually, it is already far more than a world-band radio. It connects
you to music services like Pandora, Rhapsody, Live365, RadioIO, and now
Slacker Radio. It also allows you to store your personal music
collection in an MP3tunes music locker*, for access whether or not
Has any thought been given to setting up a training/certification
process to have some of the very knowledgable folks around here act as
installation helpers? This would help those prospective customers that
would like to go beyond the Squeezenetwork option but just don't have
the requisitite
jeebers;244298 Wrote:
I know you already know this, and it's not meant as a dig, but Pandora,
Rhapsody and Slacker are US-only, therefore meaningless to the rest of
us.
I understand the reasons why, and I know it's not Logitech / SD's
fault, but I do hope that some of the SqueezeNetwork
I think the most of the current SqueezeBox owners fall in either of the
following categories:
- Computer geek
- Audiophile
Both these categories needs a computer at home and thus also likes to
setup a local SlimServer. The audiophiles because the internet radio
sound quality is't good enough and
But the tarket market of the Squeezebox is for people who appreciate
good quality music. If colour is the guiding principle for your buying
decision and outways the sound then why are you spending so much money?
Plenty of other products on the market are much cheaper versions (cos
they only play
sd2100;243989 Wrote:
I'm very sorry :-( but Mike your answer is the typical engineers answer.
And that is not *god* enough.
I don't think he ever claimed to be a deity.
If the buying process is cancelled after a quick view at the black box
it doesn't matter how good it performs sonically
cliveb;244020 Wrote:
Perhaps the SB3 is in danger of attempting to address two markets and
missing out on both.
Exactly!
It is to beautyful designed to be taken serious and to boring (all
black) to be lifestile.
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sd2100
Fifer;243994 Wrote:
I'm far from convinced that the lack of colour choices is a factor here.
How many home audio components offer anything other than a very limited
(or no) choice of colours?
As a lifestyle product, maybe sd2100 has a point. But I don't regard
myself as having the aesthetic
cliveb;244020 Wrote:
As a serious audio component, the packaging just isn't right. The
current cute styling makes it *look* like a lifestyle product, and a
lot of people who are serious about sound quality will dismiss it for
that reason. *If it were packaged in a more traditional 19 box it
Fifer;244023 Wrote:
Isn't it even more bizarre for people who are serious about audio to
dismiss something on aesthetic considerations? Don't serious audio
enthuisiasts make decisions based on sound quality rather than
appearance? Why would a manufacturer restrict the versatility of
Fifer;244023 Wrote:
Isn't it even more bizarre for people who are serious about audio to
dismiss something on aesthetic considerations? Don't serious audio
enthuisiasts make decisions based on sound quality rather than
appearance?
In principle, yes. But the world is full of cute lifestyle
cliveb;244031 Wrote:
Therefore, when one is faced with something that looks like a lifestyle
product, the psychological instinct is to start with an assumption that
it's probably mainly form and not much function. It's just not possible
to thoroughly research every option, so a lot of people
morris_minor wrote:
Us folks who've embraced the SB3 know what a quality device it is. But
if you aren't too computer savvy, setting it up may be a problem. I
wonder how many SB3s will be returned by customers who haven't
persevered (or just couldn't be bothered) to get in running. It's not
Marc Sherman;244048 Wrote:
morris_minor wrote:
Us folks who've embraced the SB3 know what a quality device it is.
But
if you aren't too computer savvy, setting it up may be a problem. I
wonder how many SB3s will be returned by customers who haven't
persevered (or just couldn't be
morris_minor;244058 Wrote:
Well, yes - if all you want is a World Band radio . . . and assuming
our non-techy user even knows what a router is . . and can then set it
up . . then it does Just Work :o)
Actually, it is already far more than a world-band radio. It connects
you to music
I've had my SB3 for just over a week and a must say - GREATE. The
network was found very quikly and the SB3 was up and running within
minuets. My concerns wasn't the hardware but the a little bit boring
black looks compared to the fantastic sliver version!
Looks sells whatever you might think. A
sd2100;243728 Wrote:
If money isn't the main buying criteria - what would most women buy if
you put a SB3 next to a Sonos? You know the answer.
But Sonos isn't styled much differently. It's just a white box while
the SB3 is black. In fact I believe the box is larger and less
discreet.
I'm
Mark Lanctot;243761 Wrote:
But Sonos isn't styled much differently. It's just a white box while
the SB3 is black. In fact I believe the box is larger and less
discreet.
I'm curious what you think of the SB2:
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?HardwareComparison which was
restyled
sd2100;243774 Wrote:
..
Your analogy to the car market is quite good. European cars makers were
very slow to install cupholders in the cars due to fact that no one in
Europe used to drink and drive. But Americans wanted cupholders so the
got them at last...
That's very good example of how
My fear is that SB will be seen as a lifestyle product, and even worse
marketed as such!
And it bothers me that they just needs to ad some colours and then
could charge 5 - 10 $ extra, that would be pure profit + gain a lot
more customers. IMHO it's very strange.
A pink SB3 might not
James_B;243794 Wrote:
A pink SB3 might not sound any better, but would it sound any worse? And
if you are scared your favourite toy might become this month's must have
high-street thing, you might want to think about why that is really an
off putting prospect..
Perhaps he's concerned that
sd2100 wrote:
I've had my SB3 for just over a week and a must say - GREATE. The
network was found very quikly and the SB3 was up and running within
minuets. My concerns wasn't the hardware but the a little bit boring
black looks compared to the fantastic sliver version!
Looks sells whatever
sd2100;243774 Wrote:
And it bothers me that they just needs to ad some colours and then could
charge 5 - 10 $ extra, that would be pure profit + gain a lot more
customers. IMHO it's very strange.
I'll take mine in a paisley pattern... no, no wait... how about a nice
tweed!
Mike
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mvalera;243838 Wrote:
I'll take mine in a paisley pattern... no, no wait... how about a nice
tweed!
Mike
I vote for herring bone :)
Joking aside, have you seen the graphics on the back of the new Zunes?
Very cool!
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funkstar
Peter;243842 Wrote:
I said it before: My favorite sound system would be invisible. No SB,
no
amp and no speakers in sight. With the Jive platform we're (slowly)
getting there I think. Just the speakers left. I believe in the US
in-wall speakers are popular. I haven't seen them here.
For me there are three main things about the SB3 that justify the cost:
1 - Sound quality; a FLAC CD from my NAS is exactly the same quality on
my stero as playing the CD mid-priced Hi-Fi CD player.
2 - The accessibility of my music; not just being lazy and getting a CD
out the drawer but
So, let me get this straight - the SB3 has no future because it isn't
available in gaudy colours?
And here I thought Holland was the place for wacky tabaccy, but I guess
it's Denmark...
And yeah, those lifestyle products are typically all styling and no
performance. No thanks on that one.
I totally forgot the usual suspects. Ipod and Tivoli Audio. Greate
products (I believe they are market leaders in theire business area)
and the products they sell all comes in a greate variety of colours.
But, if SD wants to loose the battle, there isn't really much to do.
Sad but true.
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My wife looked at the first SB...a kludgey black and silver model
My kludgey reference was a lame attempt at mild sarcasm. I also
prefer the silver/black over the all black. The white was, well for
other households.
Back to the music. RadioIO Jazz is on right now...glad to have em
back.
Squeezebox in different colours - so 2005
http://web.archive.org/web/20050127014514/http://www.slimdevices.com/
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sd2100;243360 Wrote:
I totally forgot the usual suspects. Ipod and Tivoli Audio. Greate
products (I believe they are market leaders in theire business area)
and the products they sell all comes in a greate variety of colours.
But, if SD wants to loose the battle, there isn't really much to
I think one of Logitech's problems is going to be educating the
workforce of the stores that'll sell the SB to give proper advice and
support to those attracted by the proposition but lacking the technical
knowledge in computing terms to get it running.
The Transporter's fine, since proper hi-fi
When I was looking into getting a wireless music player, and then hence
decided on a SB I went around a lot of stereo etc stores trying to find
someone that had a demo model etc of something anything. The problem was
as said above, no-one would really be able to set it up, they don't have
What is a life-style product?
It conjures up visions of desperate consumers combing gadget magazines
and Sharper-Image catalogs to find the latest over-priced junk that
they must have in order to meet some advertising executive's definition
of a complete life. Yuck. It sounds so slimy I want
tyler_durden;243410 Wrote:
What is a life-style product?
It conjures up visions of desperate consumers combing gadget magazines
and Sharper-Image catalogs to find the latest over-priced junk that
they must have in order to meet some advertising executive's definition
of a complete life.
Ugh...Not even sure why I'm bothering to chime in, but I guess timing is
everything. I just took delivery of my third SB3 and paired it with
Audioengine 5's in my bedroom. Connected wirelessly two floors away
from my router - after a 2 minute set up, including insertion of my WEP
key. It suits
utowana wrote:
She doesn't care what color it is. She is listening
to the music.
its all about the music. The hardware is just to deliver music to our ears.
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sd2100 wrote:
Does sb3 has a future?
I'm not sure.I think the problem with the sb3 is, that it doesn't know
what it is! Is it a geek device or a life-stile product. The problem
(as far as I see it) has become more obvious when logitech decided to
ditch the white and silver versions (which by
utowana;243307 Wrote:
Ugh...Not even sure why I'm bothering to chime in, but I guess timing is
everything. I just took delivery of my third SB3 and paired it with
Audioengine 5's in my bedroom. Connected wirelessly two floors away
from my router - after a 2 minute set up, including
peejay wrote:
utowana;243307 Wrote:
Ugh...Not even sure why I'm bothering to chime in, but I guess timing is
everything. I just took delivery of my third SB3 and paired it with
Audioengine 5's in my bedroom. Connected wirelessly two floors away
from my router - after a 2 minute set up,
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