garym wrote:
> I'm told that Roon has significant ongoing expenses in licensing the
> data they use in creating the user experience (which is the key value
> added prospect of the product). If true, and I believe it is, this is
> why the product can't simply be "free" or dirt cheap. My only
bsergiu wrote:
> Thanks a lot for an objective feedback. I'll keep an eye on it ;) I do
> have a lot of background in the software industry, so maybe that biases
> me when judging the pricing. However, everybody seems to be happy with
> the user experience they offer, so ... I'll keep an eye on
Thanks a lot for an objective feedback. I'll keep an eye on it ;) I do
have a lot of background in the software industry, so maybe that biases
me when judging the pricing. However, everybody seems to be happy with
the user experience they offer, so ... I'll keep an eye on it. Thanks!
Cheers,
mdconnelly wrote:
> A Roon lifetime license is $499 or you can subscribe on an annual basis
> for $119 I think. There is no requirement to buy a NAS or Mac Mini.
> You can use whatever you're using for LMS and wherever your music is
> currently stored - Mac or PC. Well, if you're using
bsergiu wrote:
> Hi HiFi friends,
>
> I was attracted to the Roon hype, looked into it and got confused.
> I know that the HiFi world is a matter of taste and preferences, and the
> argumentation for whatever equipment or software does not have to be
> based on pure cold logic :) However, did
Hi HiFi friends,
I was attracted to the Roon hype, looked into it and got confused.
I know that the HiFi world is a matter of taste and preferences, and the
argumentation for whatever equipment or software does not have to be
based on pure cold logic :) However, did I get this right, that Roon
michel wrote:
> I just tried Roon for the first time.
> Most annoing fact is that everything hires plays for seconds correctly
> and the gives just very loud pink? noise.
> I am running roon on a 1518+ synology.
>
> Another annoiance is that roon ignores perfect tags and coverart just to
>
michel wrote:
> I just tried Roon for the first time.
> Most annoing fact is that everything hires plays for seconds correctly
> and the gives just very loud pink? noise.
> I am running roon on a 1518+ synology.
>
> Another annoiance is that roon ignores perfect tags and coverart just to
>
I just tried Roon for the first time.
Most annoing fact is that everything hires plays for seconds correctly
and the gives just very loud pink? noise.
I am running roon on a 1518+ synology.
Another annoiance is that roon ignores perfect tags and coverart just to
replace with inferior
Lyster wrote:
> Roon is superior, I wholeheartedly agree. Roon is expensive, yes. That
> is the only downside I can see. They are constantly upgrading the
> product (unlike LMS). I'm going for it but I don't think I want a
> lifetime license... Not yet anyway. Look where Squeezebox
firedog wrote:
> Thanks for not answering my question. Just so you know, I didn't like
> Muso at all. It is like a childrens version of Roon. LMS is okay, but
> behind the times at this point. Roon is superior to it in almost every
> way in terms of UIl
Roon is superior, I wholeheartedly agree.
I guess it all depends upon how one wants to listen. Personally I do not
use any of the streaming services. Being retired, I am way too busy for
that, also a dinosaur. I only listen to local music so LMS it is and
happy to say so !
oyvindo wrote:
> Stay with your LMS. There's none above it and none next to it when it
> comes to music media management and distribution.
> I have my LMS 7.9 running on a high end QNAP NAS and use to drive a
> number of legacy squeezeboxes, as well as several Chromecasts, plus
> various
I'm a long time LMS/Squeezebox user - nearly a dozen years now... I owe
a huge debt of gratitude to all those that have kept LMS afloat after
Logitech ditched it. So for me to consider leaving it behind is no
easy decision.
With that said, the rich Roon UI and environment runs circles around
firedog wrote:
> Roon has now released "RoonSpeakers" - endpoint software that makes
> audio HW compatible with Roon.
Does it use a proprietary protocol, or some more open / compatible /
future proof solution (a la AES67)?
"To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In
volpone wrote:
> Hi all,
> Im interested in feedback and discussion about potential Roon
> alternative from Squeezebox users point of view.
Stay with your LMS. There's none above it and none next to it when it
comes to music media management and distribution.
I have my LMS 7.9 running on a
Roon has now released "RoonSpeakers" - endpoint software that makes
audio HW compatible with Roon.
Anybody have an idea if an SBT could be hacked and this software
installed on it?
I'd be interested, as it would enable music streaming from Roon to a
Touch, without using the present Roon
Mnyb wrote:
> Sound quality or not is provided by the player the server serves and
> everyone is happy :)
And, almost magically, it makes no difference if the connection between
the server and the player is a $1000 ethernet cable made from pure
virgin mountain gold, or is a 1 mile internet
jazzwave wrote:
> Any sound improvement by running Roon via SB devices?
>
> ~ron (not roon)_ :)
No there is no mechanism for that a bit perfect stream to a networked
player is just that .
That's one of the main points with squeezeboxes and other networked
players or "endpoints" roon has its
Lyster wrote:
> Ever since Logitech dumped the Squeezebox I've been looking for a
> replacement (for future needs and expansion). I'm currently in the
> 14-day trial period for Roon - and it's wonderful. Plays to all my
> Squeezebox devices - and AirPlay devices as well. Organizes all my
>
Ever since Logitech dumped the Squeezebox I've been looking for a
replacement (for future needs and expansion). I'm currently in the
14-day trial period for Roon - and it's wonderful. Plays to all my
Squeezebox devices - and AirPlay devices as well. Organizes all my
music, and makes it
garym wrote:
> You shouldn't hear a difference unless something is broken on your end.
> Both LMS and Roon stream bitperfect audio to the player.
Thank You!
John
Squeezed_Rotel's Profile:
mdconnelly wrote:
>
>
> You shouldn't hear a difference unless something is broken on your end.
> Both LMS and Roon stream bitperfect audio to the player.
*Home:* VortexBox 4TB (2.3) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio
(all ethernet)
*Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.3) > LMS 7.8 > Touch >
mdconnelly wrote:
> No iPeng! There is still no iPhone app to control Roon and what does
> exist for an iPad will only work on the newest iPads.But, Roon does
> have such apps on their roadmap so I suspect we'll see it soon along
> with radio.
>
> The one other feature I personally use
reverendo wrote:
> thanks for the input.
> what else is missing from Roon, apart from Radio?
No iPeng! There is still no iPhone app to control Roon and what does
exist for an iPad will only work on the newest iPads.But, Roon does
have such apps on their roadmap so I suspect we'll see it
mdconnelly wrote:
> I'm using Roon and occasionally switch back to LMS to stream radio.
> There are still quite a few benefits to using LMS that do not yet exist
> in Roon, but what Roon has to offer can't be touched by anyone else.
>
> I really don't hear a difference between streaming from
reverendo wrote:
> very interested. always wanted to find out if another server would make
> the end result sound different.
> it's a very high price, though, so will probably test for two weeks and
> see how it fares against lms.
> great thread, btw.
I'm using Roon and occasionally switch back
very interested. always wanted to find out if another server would make
the end result sound different.
it's a very high price, though, so will probably test for two weeks and
see how it fares against lms.
great thread, btw.
SB Touch (w/ EDO & Welborne PSU)>Resolution Audio Cantata Music
DanSmedra wrote:
> Can someone explain the basic signal/circuit path for streaming music
> via: computer, Roon software, and Squeezebox Touch?
Roon Core/Server (think of these as LMS) -> Squeezebox Touch.
Roon Remote computer installs or iOS/Android devices talk to the above
Roon Core or
Can someone explain the basic signal/circuit path for streaming music
via: computer, Roon software, and Squeezebox Touch?
*Source*: TIDAL HiFi, Pandora One, other > MySqueezebox.com & LMS
7.9.0-ickStream plugin, using iPeng 9.0.3 app on iPhone6s/iPad
*Great Room*: SB Touch(1) > AudioQuest
Today Roon Labs released Roon 1.1 (build 94) this has better support for
Squeezebox endpoints and also support for the new RoonReady endpoints.
If you have a RoonReady endpoint like the new Sonicorbiter SE you can
play directly to your DAC over the network.
You lucky Roon subscribers :D
https://community.roonlabs.com/t/mqa-support-by-roon/88/23
They confirm MQA will at some time be implemented in their SW.
(Meaning you do not have to wait for SB implementation)
R1200CL's
Roon works fine with Touch and Duet. Haven't yet tried it with a
Classic but thanks for the heads-up. I would think that if you are a
Tidal and Squeezebox user, Roon would be a huge win. It is still a work
in progress hence the need and desire to continue using LMS for features
that don't
Thanks for nice information. I also found some YouTube video showing UI
etc. I think at some stage I will purchase a subscription. If I don't
purchase a Auralic product as I understand Roon is then part of what you
get. Not sure if that is correct. Time will tell.
R1200CL wrote:
> Can I still use iPeng for radio through mysqueezebox.com ?
>
> If I have understood this right, that is an area where Roon is not up
> and running.
>
> Apart from that, you may use Room instead of LMS and iPeng. Is that a
> correct observation ?
> (As a Tidal hi-fi
Otto-Wilhelm wrote:
> Roon is great. I consider to go for it in addition to my LMS-Squeezebox
> setup. Squeezebox devices can be supplied directly from Roon with music
> streams, but with the disadvantage that the LMS in the network has to be
> shut down for achieving that a respective
Can I still use iPeng for radio ?
If I have understood this right, that is an area where Roon is not up
and running.
Apart from that, you may use Room instead of LMS and iPeng. Is that a
correct observation ?
(As a Tidal hi-fi subscriber).
mdconnelly wrote:
> Hey, I've been a huge Squeezebox fan since the very early SlimDevices
> days and I'm the last one to ever want to give up on it.
>
> With that said, Roon is a game changer when it comes to how you listen
> and explore your music. If you've got a large library of music,
Their UI and use of metadata makes it so easy to surf through your music
collection finding music and relationships you'd never know existed.
It's also extremely intuitive and quite beautiful. But yes, it's harder
to describe than it is to see. This video gives a pretty effective
glimpse...
audiomuze wrote:
> Strongly disagree. The first warning screen is very clear. There comes
> a point we as users need to take responsibility for our own actions and
> decisions.
Strongly disagree...considering that this action will alter your music
collection. At least a mention to back-up
Roon is great. I consider to go for it in addition to my LMS-Squeezebox
setup. Squeezebox devices can be supplied directly from Roon with music
streams, but with the disadvantage that the LMS in the network has to be
shut down for achieving that a respective Squeezebox device connects
Hey, I've been a huge Squeezebox fan since the very early SlimDevices
days and I'm the last one to ever want to give up on it.
With that said, Roon is a game changer when it comes to how you listen
and explore your music. If you've got a large library of music, Roon
gives you a easy,
volpone wrote:
> New version of Roon (V1.1, b88) is out and supports SqueezeBox networked
> devices as "endpoints":
> https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-1-1-build-88-is-live/5676
>
> - On SBT: Now playing (metadata and cover), volume control and ability
> to pause and next / prev tracks.
> -
mftech wrote:
> Yes...I understand my mistake...considering the danger, you should have
> a second warning...and i'm probably the first one to make this
> mistake...anyway my back-up is now terminated...still exploring Roon and
> understand the benefits considering the high pricing...Strongly
Squeezebox support has now been released.
https://community.roonlabs.com/t/how-do-i-use-roon-and-squeezebox-devices-together/5865
VirusKiller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19799
View this
New version of Roon (V1.1, b88) is out and supports SqueezeBox devices
as "endpoints":
https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-1-1-build-88-is-live/5676
- On SBT: Now playing (metadata and cover), volume control and ability
to pause and next / prev tracks.
- On SqueezeLite / SqueezePlay: Not
Info an ROON, see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrRfhWcLoqA
---
1 transporter with touch for controlling,
1 squeezebox 3
6 squeezebox radio
3 squeezebox controllers
(+ a number of different squeezebox
Otto-Wilhelm wrote:
> I assume that you selected the wrong kind of folder. See
> https://community.roonlabs.com/t/whats-a-watched-folder-whats-an-organized-folder/119/2
>
> "Watched Folder" is the kind of folder to be selected, not "Organized
> Folder"
Yes...I understand my
In anticipation of the Squeezebox support coming soon, I popped for a
lifetime subscription to Roon after having tested it for a week or so.
I have to say that I'm extremely impressed. If what you want is the
ability to get more engaged with your music (and less so with the
technology), then
I installed Roon yesterday,
btw I found very offensive that you need to provide your credit card for
an evaluation.
I set-up Roon to connect with my NAS (VB 2.3), at first I found the
indexing to be pretty slow...even after several hours Roon was still
indexing...
Checking LMS I found out the
mftech wrote:
> I installed Roon yesterday,
> btw I found very offensive that you need to provide your credit card for
> an evaluation.
>
> I set-up Roon to connect with my NAS (VB 2.3), at first I found the
> indexing to be pretty slow...even after several hours Roon was still
> indexing...
>
Otto-Wilhelm wrote:
> I assume that you selected the wrong kind of folder. See
> https://community.roonlabs.com/t/whats-a-watched-folder-whats-an-organized-folder/119/2
>
> "Watched Folder" is the kind of folder to be selected, not "Organized
> Folder"
I second @Otto-Wilhelm.
I'm using Roon in
I've been an enthusiastic user of LMS for many years now, although I'm
down to two players (a Touch & Transporter) down from a high of four in
the house at peak. I'm a huge classical music lover, with just over
25,000 tracks in my FLAC library. Thanks to Erland's plug-ins and many
hours of
Has anyone tried or is anyone using 'audio|acacia'
(http://www.plethra.com)? If so, what are your thoughts?
It looks functionally very similar to Roon, but appears to support more
music services and more endpoints and doesn't cost $500.
I see that there is also some interest in supporting
I had a nosey and Roon seems to be compatible with some high end "end
points" and also with anything AirPlay. In their FAQs it points out that
AirPlay is 16/44.1 only. Has anyone been able to establish what the SB
player bitrate is with Roon?
*Vortexbox LMS 7.8 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS*
d6jg wrote:
> I had a nosey and Roon seems to be compatible with some high end "end
> points" and also with anything AirPlay. In their FAQs it points out that
> AirPlay is 16/44.1 only. Has anyone been able to establish what the SB
> player bitrate is with Roon?
- The Roon version compatible
I have had a more detailed read now and I see that they are working on
24/192 capability and also DSD.
As I read it Roon is a possible replacement for LMS with a greater
metadata based database (.net?) but currently lacking some of the
features that make LMS as great as it is.
Have you direct
d6jg wrote:
> I have had a more detailed read now and I see that they are working on
> 24/192 capability and also DSD.
Yes.
> As I read it Roon is a possible replacement for LMS with a greater
> metadata based database (.net?) but currently lacking some of the
> features that make LMS as great
Thanks I think I confused RoonPlayer with RoonSpeakers
*Vortexbox LMS 7.8 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* iThingys/iPeng/Tablets
*Living Room* - SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s - Zone 2 ->
Sony TA FE 320 -> Sennheiser RS 130 & B P7
*Office* - RPi -> Sony TA FE320 -> Celestion F10s /
volpone wrote:
> From my limited understanding on SB devices support as Roon endpoints
> (due to not enough information from RoonLabs):
>
> - You need to subscribe to Roon service and install Roon Core server
> (annual or lifetime subscription, not free !).
> - Only Mac and Win Roon versions
Hi volpone,
I must admit that I haven't followed the Roon/Squeezebox integrations
totally.
To be able to use Roon streaming would it mean that instead of a LMS
version Roon needs to be installed?
Will this be a kind of Roon server version which can be installed on a
Nas or is the
marflao wrote:
> Hi volpone,
>
> I must admit that I haven't followed the Roon/Squeezebox integrations
> totally.
>
> To be able to use Roon streaming would it mean that instead of a LMS
> version Roon needs to be installed?
> Will this be a kind of Roon server version which can be
Roon streaming to SB3, Touch (EDO) and Boom.
Seems to be released soon according to
https://community.roonlabs.com/t/squeezebox-support/1043/142
19346
+---+
|Filename: Roon_SB.jpg |
Hello Cebolla,
Thank you for the insights about possible UPnP - DNLA and Chromecast /
Roon interoperability via Philippe's excellent squeeze2upnp application.
I'm too very impatient to evaluate Roon SqueezeBox devices support to be
released very soon:
Hi Volpone
With Roon now close to releasing a SqueezeBox supporting version of its
server and thanks to Phillipe's excellent squeeze2upnp application,
you'll likely be soon able to have Roon being streamed by UPnP/DLNA
supporting streamers and even Chromecast audio players (via Philippe's
Will keep an eye on this and add input over on the roon forum.
Really only currently interested in a solution which utilises my
existing sb duet and boom plus squeezelite using hifiberry and all can
be sync'd together.
So there could be something here. ..quite a price tag but if it works
and
Julf wrote:
Just curious, what do you think could/would cause any difference in the
sound?
Price ?
Sorry but that's also my point.:)
Audiophiles magazines and fora are full of reviews about such huge
differences but technically i'm quite curious about the reasons ...
SqueezeBoxServer 7.9
volpone wrote:
Price?
That would indeed be the most important difference. The other being a
heavy, airspace-grade milled aluminium enclosure... :)
Audiophiles magazines and fora are full of reviews about such huge
differences but technically i'm quite curious about the reasons ...
If there
volpone wrote:
Sound Quality enhancement: Squeeze devices replacement by more
high-end audio streamers.
Just use an external DAC.
IMHO key point is *if they will be successful in deploying RoonSpeakers
protocol* to audio hardware vendors (network streamers, DAC, modern
integrated
Julf wrote:
Just use an external DAC.
I do ... also agree with you than from SQ point of view streaming
functions are less important than DAC.
Interested in ABX blind tests between, for example, SBT (spdif digital
output) , and near 2000$ top end UPnP streamers (Bel Canto, Auralic,
Moon Mind
volpone wrote:
Interested in ABX blind tests between, for example, SBT (spdif digital
output) , and near 2000$ top end UPnP streamers (Bel Canto, Auralic,
Moon Mind ... ) with the same good DAC.
Archimago, are you listening? :)
To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard.
volpone wrote:
Interested in ABX blind tests between, for example, SBT (spdif digital
output) , and near 2000$ top end UPnP streamers (Bel Canto, Auralic,
Moon Mind ... ) with the same good DAC.
Just curious, what do you think could/would cause any difference in the
sound?
To try to judge
Following a discussion (copied from i have today with philippe_44 about
*LMS /UPnP/ Roon and architecture protocols comparaison.*
In some aspects this discussion is in line with this interesting old one
about UPnP and LMS see
As a continuation of
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?102496-announce-squeeze2upnp-a-bridge-between-LMS-and-uPNP-devicesp=825439viewfull=1#post825439
volpone wrote:
The LINN extensions (aka OpenHome) solve a lot of functional problems
(Gapless playback, playlist management ..)
Thank you Philippe_44, very interesting insights.
SqueezeBoxServer 7.9 / ReadyNas Pro (x86) | SBTouch - SB3 - Duet - Boom
- Ipeng
SBTouch = Rega DAC = Rega Brio R amp = Harbeth SLH5 speakers
volpone's Profile:
75 matches
Mail list logo
