Cams Wrote:
Thereafter I got through the set up, had an IP automatically assigned
and had to enter the SlimServer IP manually. That's as far as it gets.
Are you sure it's connecting? Is the IP 192.168.something or is it
169.254.something?
The latter would be I couldn't get an IP number
Thanks Dan.
Is a rebuild or newer version of Perl needed? I went to use a 6.2
nightly and got a bunch of errors. I'll look into again tomorrow.
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It's a 192.168 IP. When first I set it up, it did find the IP address
automatically. That's what made me thing something was not right this
time around, and indeed, that seems to be the case.
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I am travelling quiet a bit and am looking for a smart way to take the
slimbox along.
In most hotels I can connect wireless with the laptop and squeezbox.
I had planned to take my slimbox on the trip. But that means take
along: the BOX, Powersupply and a pair of powered speakers.
To be honest
tonymuffin Wrote:
When I ripped a recent CD in Windows Media Player to .wma format it did
not download the Album information. I have since gone into Advanced
Editor within Windows Media Player and have edit the tags, howere Slime
Server does not see the tag information. What is the best
Ooops, just noticed I missed this line:
The outputted text file should be called DirectoryName.dii where
DirectoryName is the name of the directory holding the files, as
above.
Sorry about that. Fixing it now...
I am going to assume you want all the *.dii files in the same dir after
you're
and to Mark Lancot
thanks for the advice about softsqueeze (and synching) - now it all
works perfectly
jp
2006-01-25, 17:15
Mark Lanctot
Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: London, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 490
Re: Feature request: Player Controls in Web Interface
Ok try #2 :)
Now the code searches all the subdirectories of any directories given
on the command line and it tries to be semi-smart about not getting
itself into an infinite loop if a subdir is a link to a dir it's
already seen, or if you name a dir twice by mistake.
It dumps all the .dii in
You have checked the box so that it uses 'Common Album Titles', haven't
you?
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seanadams Wrote:
To be clear, you want to be able to configure Squeezebox to boot up and
then start playing some URL continuously, correct?
Setup:
I deliver a stream to a hostingcenter.
The hostingcenter will deliver a livestream (MP3, WMA or another)
I configurer a Squeezebox to receive
OK Mark
actually ...you are right...synching is SOMETIMES not an (apparent)
problem! It seems to depend on what you are listening to and volume as
to whether or not it is noticable. When quiet tracks are played - it
is clear that the local player is about (???) 1/3 or 1/2 second behind
the SB2
The ZyXEL router is being used only for the ADSL modem. The new router
has Gigabit ethernet and a stronger wireless signal. I would much
rather have got an all-in-one device with Gigabit ethernet, good
wireless and integrated modem, but there doesn't seem to be such a
thing on the market as yet.
I still can't connect to SlimServer using only the ZyXEL router so I
thought I'd post back with some more info.
The ZyXEL router is taking care of the DHCP IP assignment. The SB3 is
connecting to the wireless network and is being successfully assigned
its own IP address. I can ping the SB3 from
OK, understand the problems...
So, at the moment you've gone back to just the one router - the SBs can
get onto the network and connect to Squeezenetwork- but can't find
Slimserver.
This suggests that either slimserver isn't running (check you can
access it from a browser on a PC) or is being
Hello all
I have been a keen Slimserver user since I bought my
first Slimp3 I have just set a friend of mine with 2 x SB3 running on a
MAC. I have no experience of Mac (and although he uses it for his work
he knows nothing about networking etc).
My primary problem is this: In
Thanks for staying with me on this ceejay. Your help is very much
appreciated.
I did the hard factory reset on the SBs, disabled Wireless g+ on the
router and changed the 802.11 mode from 802.11g only to Mixed. I then
saw that my Clark Connect OS had switched from Standalone (No Firewall)
mode
northendboston Wrote:
is there a way a non-technical user can cure this?
Peoples experience of sync with Softsqueeze seems to vary. I have
recently started converting the audio play back to a native program,
see this thread http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20750.
I'd like
Pale Blue Ego Wrote:
Running the Windows version on my PC, with slimserver on a Linux box, I
can see the player on the web interface, but trying to do anything with
it basically locks up slimserver. I kill the squeezeslave window and
slimserver immediately unlocks.
That's strange. Could
Bruce Tucker wrote:
I recently installed Slimserver 6.2.1 and Softsqueeze 2.2, but my
Softsqueeze displays the same line twice. Is this a known bug or is
something wrong that can be corrected?
Strange, I've not seen that before. A couple of people have posted about
this on the softsqueeze
Chris Laplante wrote:
Did this memory leak ever get resolved?
AFAIK Softsqueeze has never had any memory leaks, the issues discussed
earlier in this thread were to do with deadlocks.
I seem to be having a similar problem:
Exception in thread AudioDecoder-1 java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:
Works for me on Win XP with a Linux server using FLAC.
Sound quality is a little hard to assess on my PC, but it doesn't seem
unusually bad!
I do get 'glitches' when moving between tracks though ... like a buffer
isn't being dumped.
Web UI vol control doesn't work
FFwd works but FRev crashes
On my OS X box it doesn't run. I get the following output:
./squeezeslave
Found 2 devices
Built-in Audio : : 1
Built-in Audio : : 1
Error connecting to 127.0.0.1:3483
Broken pipe
./squeezeslave --debug slimproto
./squeezeslave: Recompilie with -DDEBUG to enable debugging.
Patrick Dixon Wrote:
Works for me on Win XP with a Linux server using FLAC.
Sound quality is a little hard to assess on my PC, but it doesn't seem
unusually bad!
That's my problem too, I really need a proper amp and speakers for my
PC!
Patrick Dixon Wrote:
I do get 'glitches' when
Hi all
While i choose wma to stream in native format, and issue the play
command in slim server, the slim server is not sending the slim proto
command, i.e 'strm' command. In release notes slimserver 6.2 it is
mentioned that wma can be streamed in native format.
When i choose wma to stream
AH, a post to one forum should be sufficient.
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Patrick Dowling wrote:
On my OS X box it doesn't run. I get the following output:
./squeezeslave
Found 2 devices
Built-in Audio : : 1
Built-in Audio : : 1
Error connecting to 127.0.0.1:3483
Broken pipe
Is your slimserver running on the same machine? Do you have a firewall
Jeff Wrote:
If you buy an RS-232 interface, you can hook it up to your AMX NetLinx
system, download my module on SourceForge (of course), and off you go.
Thanks again for your guidance. I made a stupid post on the 'player
controls for web interface' thread above, RE: SS needing to be
And a few more details ?
Which 6.2 Slimserver - 6.2.2 or 6.2.1 ?
OS ?
SB2 /SB3 / Softsqueeze / a combination ?
Also there was another recent thread on this - anything in there help
you:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20460highlight=native
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hello all,
I am new to this forum, hope I posted this message at the proper
location.
I am used to listen to a number of radio stations through my web
navigator.
here are a few links:
http://yacast.rtl.fr/V4/rtl/microplayer/rtl_micro_main.html?id=rtl
http://tinyurl.com/c39lq
Hello all,
I try to stream a WMA file in native format from Slimserver. We are
using a custom written client for that running in Windows.
For this in the convert.conf, we added the line
wma wma * *
-
But still, the slimserver is not sending the start command in the strm
message and it is
rtitmuss Wrote:
How do you access these from the web ui?I assume you mean the FFwd/FRwd?
In Fishbone skin there are icons for them in the Player window.
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patrickw59 Wrote:
When I use the Slimserver, option /Help/Internet Radio and use the
option Tune in now, the web page displays (for example):
Now playing 1 of 1:
http://player.rireetchansons.fr/V4/rireetchansons/microplayer/rireetchansons
micro main.html?id=rireetchansons
QUOTE]
Thanks Mark.
I have the server rescan every night, then reboot using windows
scheduler, so that memory is freed up. It seems to help when I run 6
of these guys at one time to reboot daily. I just wanted to make sure
that I didn't have a redundant scan happening when it restarted.
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NJSal Wrote:
Could you please explain in detail?
I'm a newbie at this, and although I have and love your plug-in, I have
no idea how to add customized text.
Sure- There are several ways to do this using SuperDateTime. Assuming
that you have the plugin working, go to the server settings -
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A new release of squeezeslave is available today, you can download
binaries for Windows, Linux and OSX from:
http://softsqueeze.sourceforge.net
I couldn't find any mention of Squeezeslave from that link, but I found the
download here:
It looks like you may be trying to type in the web page that you usually
go to instead of the stream that is the actual music.
For example, for classic FM if you try tuning into the HTML page it
does not work, but if you tune into the following link it does.
I have to agree that I'm not sure that I can see the advantage in
bringing the SB. Could you explain your reasoning a little please?
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Philip Meyer wrote:
I couldn't find any mention of Squeezeslave from that link, but I found the
download here:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=105169package_id=176494release_id=390716
True, that would probably have been a more useful url to include.
Is there any web
I am still having the problem with having a duplicate of every song in
the library when MusicMagic is installed.
The library ended up with 2 entries for each song, one with mm and one
without.
I really like MM, and it helps me to open up my music library. But
this annoying feature takes away
My two new Squeezeboxes arrived a few days ago, and my wife and I are
pretty amazed at the sound quality. My wife, a serious technophobe, is
rapidly falling in love with the device (setting up a playlist with all
her favorite radio stations helped).
So now, I have this beautiful new device in
No problem w/ installation, but with WinXPPro sp2, and several sound
devices. I get 'garbled' sound with both flac and mp3 with and
without bitrate limiting to the device. I do have (too?) many sound
devices on this machine...
Thanks for the excellent concept.
Here's the startup:
Did you try just setting the music folder within Slim server?
It's on ther server settings page, you'll probably have to set it to
something like /volumes/hd2/Music Folder.
Also, make sure that 'Do Not use Itunes' is checked on that same page.
Ben
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If you are importing your music library information from Musicmagic you
_must_ leave the Slimserver Music Library entry blank or you will get
duplicate items. If you fill in both you're effectively telling
Slimserver to look in two places for music, which is why you see
duplicate items. That's
I tried 6.5 but wasn't happy with the number of problems so I am trying
to revert to 6.2.1 (on Mac OS/X 10.4). Install went fine (install was
recognized as an 'update') but server won't start. Seems to start for a
couple of seconds but then fails. Suggestions?
[just tried 6.2.2 but same problem]
You did almost everything right - instead of making an alias of HD2 and
putting it in the music folder you need to make a 'symbolic link' of
HD2 and put it in the music folder. Do a version tracker search for
symbolic link - I believe there is a program that's called symbolic
linker that does a
klausbgva wrote:
I am travelling quiet a bit and am looking for a smart way to take the
slimbox along.
In most hotels I can connect wireless with the laptop and squeezbox.
I had planned to take my slimbox on the trip. But that means take
along: the BOX, Powersupply and a pair of powered
Try uninstalling and the reinstalling, works for me.
I have the same problem everytime I use 6.5 and then go back to 6.22,
however this is on Windows XP.
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After intensive investigation (comma) of the markings on the alien pod
(comma) it has become clear (comma) to me (comma) that
I checked it out, but there appears to be a bug or two.
1) I pointed it at a directory named C:\TestDir1:
File1.txt
File1.tif
File2.txt
File2.tif
File3.tif
File4.tif
File5.txt
File5.tif
File6.tif
File7.tif
File8.tif
And the output it gave me is:
@FULLTEXT DOC
;RECORD 1
@C BEGDOC# File1
@C
Yep (see above), originally it was un-checked. So I tried selecting it
and re-scanning but the artists who only have a Greatest Hits album
still don't show up under Browse/Artists...?
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* notanatheist shaped the electrons to say...
Is a rebuild or newer version of Perl needed? I went to use a 6.2
nightly and got a bunch of errors. I'll look into again tomorrow.
Yes - you will need a perl 5.8 release. What version of *nix are you running on?
Michael Herger has put together a
joncourage Wrote:
My Greatest Hits albums are getting grouped under Various Artists,
even tho the artist tag is the same for each of the albums (eg Chicago,
Aerosmith, etc).
That kind of behaviour sounds a bit like the way that the compilation
setting works. Try switching Compilation
rtitmuss Wrote:
This is playing mp3 files? If possible could you try flac and see if
that's ok.
I can confirm that for me MP3's have a distinctive backgroup hiss
whilst FLAC's seem to play very well and sound as good as with
Softsqueeze. This is on Windows XP SP2 with 6.22.
Also getting the
Thanks to you and Ben for your tips. I will try it all, I just set up remote
access to the Slimserver in question so it will be fairly easy (well easy to
'have a go' anway!)
Kind regards
Richard
-Original Message-
From: thepainter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 February 2006 15:57
OK I know I can do it with the Laptop.
The built -in speakers are not the best to listen when more than 2 feet
away. When on the laptop I have my BO headset and the sound is as good
as the wireless will allow it.
If I take a pair of speakers along they must be powered and need to
connect to the
I got it working!!! I pulled out the ZyXEL and worked on the LAN using
just the new router. I manged to get it to assign the IP addresses that
I wanted it to assign and got the SB3s working over the wireless network
with WPA. Signal strength is up in the 80s now so problem solved.
Plugging back
You could try the Super t-amp:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/audio/6cd8/
If you do, let me know how it works. I need an excuse to buy one.
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northendboston Wrote:
OK Mark
actually ...you are right...synching is SOMETIMES not an (apparent)
problem! It seems to depend on what you are listening to and volume as
to whether or not it is noticable. When quiet tracks are played - it
is clear that the local player is about (???) 1/3
Hmmm my amp isn't the sexist looking and hasn't had fantastic reviews
but. to my ears it sounds a lot better than the amp I walked into
the shop to buy (and cost 1/3rd the price!).
http://www.hifichoice.co.uk/review_read.asp?ID=321
After the @I, just put the subdirectory name. It should be the name of
the subdirectory that contains the .txt and .tif files. (And you
shouldn't have to worry about there being any subdirectories lower than
that, or any identically named directories.)
thanks again,
Mike
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Squeezeslave is perfectly functional for me.
As mattybain noted, MP3 playback is quite noisy, lots of background
hiss, but FLAC playback is excellent.
Skipping from track to track causes a bit of a glitch at Patrick Dixon
noted.
I'm not getting a FLAC decoder error, but every once in a while I
shawkie Wrote:
I've just bought a new Squeezebox3 and I can't believe how buggy it
seems to be.
Give it a little time. It'll grow on you.
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Some of them may already be fixed - try a 6.2 nightly.
WMA support was new in 6.1 so the bugs may well be sorted (I don't know
'cos I don't use it).
2) fair comment on the button operation, but there is a plugin that
allows you to jump to any point in a song I think. Maybe that would
work for
Victor Wrote:
So after the @I, do you put full path name or just the dir name? And if
the dir is a subdir of another (i.e. dir1/dir2), what do you put?
Whoops, just to clarify: If the directory with the .txt and tif files
is named SubDir1, then that whole line with the @I should show:
@D
Thanks for your reply. I just tried the latest beta and it seems to have
all the same bugs plus a new one.
8) After fast forwarding a WAV file and resuming playback it plays back
okay for a few seconds and then becomes slow and choppy.
And some more comments
3) If you rewind from the middle of
I have a Cambridge Audio Azur 640a AMP (BLACK). It's had great reviews
and i highly recommend it. Not sure if you can get them in the USA
(that were you are i take it?).
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shawkie Wrote:
1) Fast forward doesn't work on WMA lossy (CBR or VBR) files. It says
Scanning 2X but the audio stops and the progress bar doesn't move.
Pressing play causes playback causes it to stop saying Scanning 2X but
still no audio. Pressing play again causes playback to start from
If you're new to the Squeezeboxes, a few comments are in order.
People on this list know most of this stuff, but forget that newcomers
don't.
The Squeezebox is a thin client (the slim in the name), so there's
not all that much in the box itself. A processor, a software DSP, stuff
for the
How about taking this discussion offline since it has no relation to
Slim nor music in general.
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Sorry this didn't come in time for the two of you but for anyone who
finds this thread in future, the list of known router status is:
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?RouterStatus
The D-Link624 G mode issue is noted there, but feel free to update with
any other info you have.
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rtitmuss wrote:
Feedback welcome, as always ...
Syncing between a SB1 unit and squeezeslave on an old laptop is much
better at v03 compared to v02. v02 was better than softsqueeze as far as
sync. still. there is a perceptible lag, just perceptible.
both players are fed by the same
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Squeezeslave 0.3 seems to be working fine for me on Win XP - I don't
notice any particular sound quality issues when playing mp3.
Sync with my SB2 is still a little off. Squeezeslave is somewhere
between 0.1 and 0.4 seconds behind the sqeezebox. The amount of delay
seems to be pretty
evergreen25 wrote:
What is the syntax for that command? My guess would be:
squeezeslave.exe 127.0.0.1 set PA_MIN_LATENCY_MSEC=50
No, try it like this:
C:\folder set PA_MIN_LATENCY_MSEC=50
C:\folder squeezeslave.exe 127.0.0.1
Richard
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Thank you for the info GoCubs. I was able to place a small message on my
SB3 but it was having trouble scolling a larger message, even after
playing with the scrolling settings.
Plus for some reason, it did not accept spaces in between words?
Michael...if you could tell me what I have to do to
Update on the originally reported problem is that I have now received a
replacement unit and am pleased to say it appears to work faultlessly.
Thus the SB3 freezeing when used in wireless mode appears to have been
a fault with the actual SB3 box (or else the power supply, as someone
eluded to
That must be it, when I change that setting the album shows under the
correct Artist.
I took a look at the tags (FLAC) using my tag editor and don't see
anything that makes me think it's tagged as a compilation though. Not
sure what that looks like so will try to compare to ones that really
are
Siduhe wrote:
If you are importing your music library information from Musicmagic you
_must_ leave the Slimserver Music Library entry blank or you will get
duplicate items. If you fill in both you're effectively telling
Slimserver to look in two places for music, which is why you see
duplicate
b_prem wrote:
Hello all,
I try to stream a WMA file in native format from Slimserver. We are
using a custom written client for that running in Windows.
does slimserver identify it as a known player properly, and is it SB2?
But still, the slimserver is not sending the start command in the
Richard Titmuss wrote:
Bruce Tucker wrote:
I recently installed Slimserver 6.2.1 and Softsqueeze 2.2, but my
Softsqueeze displays the same line twice. Is this a known bug or is
something wrong that can be corrected?
Strange, I've not seen that before. A couple of people have posted
about
I have a PC with 2 network cards installed to 2 seperate cable modems.
Connection 1 is connected to a modem here at my desk which is also the
same network my slim server is installed on. My slimserver is an older
model (not wireless). A couple of weeks ago I added a second cable
line (modem) to
Is there a way to get the Squeezebox to display the contents of the
title field in an RSS feed but not the description field?
I would like to use my Squeezebox to check the daily offer at woot.com,
but when I link to their RSS feed the title (which shows the daily item
for sale) is quickly
This occurs because the wireless network (and dialup) has a higher
priority over the wired ethernet connection, and takes over the default
route and routing information.
You need to setup a manual route on your PC to forward traffic to your
first network whenever the second network is up.
Bring
Here's the situation.
I have a Mac mini 1.42 GHz 1GB DDR SDRAM running OSX 10.4.4 Slimserver
6.2.1 and a SliMP3.
This is the household mac but is also the slimserver. I have two
additional 200GB external Firewire and USB2 HD. The music is on the
Firewire drive. My music playback will stall,
http://www.music123.com/Behringer-MS20-i156836.music
edit: another with higher WAF:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=36-136-102
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http://www.htguys.com/audio/2006/HDTV-2006-02-03.mp3
This is done by the HT Guys; a very positive review covering most
aspects of the SB -- Closed vs. open source, remotes (Sonos' killer
remote vs. PDAs/Nokias), high-quality audio engineering, competition,
even their attempts at synchronization
GoCubs Wrote:
Hey Guys-
I'm going to look into what would be involved making a Sirius plugin.
It's more network-involved than my SuperDateTime plugin, but I'll
give it a shot. I give myself 50/50 chance of going ahead with it.
-Greg
I love SuperDateTime! Please go for it. I'd kick in
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I have these exact same problems. I am hoping the problems are due
to Slimserver and not the SB3. All the nightly beta's i have tried
have been to buggy for me. Waiting for the proper 6.5 release to
see if that helps.
Anyone know when 6.5 is due for
Just finished a review of the Nokia 770 skin on the PSP. Check it out
below:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20733
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I bougth the SB3 with SqueezNetwork access to listen to commercial free
music, with world wide news and absolutely free of folks like Stern..
smile... and hey - I get it for free... what was your question..
smile... no seriously... I would not pay for SatRadio as I think it
can not match
Can you suppress the (Welcome to SlimServer) string that gets tacked
onto the end of the mp3 stream track title? I'm talking about the
format shown when an application is connected to
http://[server]:[port]/stream.mp3
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Jim
I have been in your same situation, but switching to the Roku is not the
answer. As it was described to me, after I essentially pitched a fit
here, the SLiMP3 has a very small buffer. Do a little searching and
you'll find the Wiki page which compares it to the newer devices.
Given this
SoundBoy Wrote:
I bougth the SB3 with SqueezNetwork access to listen to commercial free
music, with world wide news and absolutely free of folks like Stern..
smile... and hey - I get it for free... what was your question..
smile... no seriously... I would not pay for SatRadio as I think it
kdf Wrote:
JJZolx wrote:
Can you suppress the (Welcome to SlimServer) string that gets
tacked
onto the end of the mp3 stream track title? I'm talking about the
format shown when an application is connected to
http://[server]:[port]/stream.mp3
strings.txt, but that affects it in
I honestly don't think that a larger processor would do any good for the
situation I'm in. It looks like the server has about reached it's usful
life and they are no longer supporting the SliMP3 folks. When the
playback stalls the proccessors are about 80% free. The Mac mini is
more then
Is there a way to use the custom-types.conf file to remove a file type?
Going back to SlimServer 5.x I've had the .cue file entry commented out
in the types.conf file to avoid cataloging problems caused by storing
CUE sheets in my music folders.
#cue cueaudio/x-cueplaylist
So I can listen to Howard Stern?
No thanks. I can't imagine why anyone would pay money for a Sirius
subscription so they can listen to that idiot. The brilliant execs at
Sirius who gave him $500M must have been high when they came up with
that idea...
I'm glad he went to Sirius. No there's
On 2/4/06, Siduhe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you are importing your music library information from Musicmagic you_must_ leave the Slimserver Music Library entry blank or you will getduplicate items.If you fill in both you're effectively tellingSlimserver to look in two places for music, which is
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