[slim] Artist Composer constantly repeated
The latest nightlies have been having an odd problem wherein if the artist and composer names are the same, SlimServer lists them over and over and over... For example: Boy With A Problem from Imperial Bedroom by Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Elvis Costello Miss Sarajevo from The Best Of 1990-2000 by U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 U2 -- el payo ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Artist Composer constantly repeated
el payo Wrote: The latest nightlies have been having an odd problem wherein if the artist and composer names are the same, SlimServer lists them over and over and over... Hmmm, I've been considering adding COMPOSER tags to songs, especially in my Jazz collection. Without the bug (yeah, need to get that one fixed ;) is it intended that both the artist and the composer will be displayed like that, with no distinction between the two? Would Tadd's Delight, composed by Tadd Dameron and performed by Miles Davis be displayed as: Tadd's Delight by Miles Davis Tadd Dameron Is there no way to get something more meaningful, maybe like: Tadd's Delight by Miles Davis, Tadd Dameron(c) I just know I'm going have a ball tagging my classical stuff... -- JJZolx Jim ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Performance measurements ?
And as I said in an earlier post, the measurements taken here show the _real_ time it takes for the CLI to perform some database query. Sorry, your test tool does not quite do what you say... it does not measure _the_ time it takes, rather, it measures only _a_ single run which by itself *plus* all the perturbing affects of an uncontrolled system, is terribly inaccurate. The numbers reported early demonstrate and support this. A single run of the tool is competing with the rest of the processes running on the system - there are dozens or hundreds of threads also running and competing. Your test tool does not isolate the various affects that perturb measurements, so its the benchmarker's job to defeat such affects. With the earlier results reported being 2-3x out of agreement, it is clear that what is being benchmarked, is not in fact what you believe is being measured. Therefore, drawing any conclusions is not very meaningful, or useful. Numerous background processes, virus scanners, network activity, disk spinup time, low-power to max-power CPU speedup time, swapping, disk cache, hardware interrupts, are factors which need to be eliminated and reduced before conclusions can be drawn. All true, but please bear in mind what this tool actually tries to do. There are quite a few complaints about performance of the server. Performance in this context is something that is perceived, it is not a measurement of top speed. When people complain, they probably just tried to use their SB. During that test, there were all sorts of other processes running, just as you explained. That very experience of performance makes them act and send out a call for help. This tool tries to do exactly that. It is _intended_ to run on a system that is polluted by all sorts of junk. The measurement would not be realistic if there wasn't any real life interference by whatever tries to slow the server down. All we have now is some vague indication of performance. If someone complains the server stalls when I navigate to that menu, then click right, and then press play, it could be very handy to have the queries to the database that correspond to his actions, and have his server (running all the junk that is messing up the machine) to spit out a more tangible value than it is sooo slow. I don't expect the tool to be very accurate in the light of all that is said, but the bottom line is that if someone wants their toy to play a piece of music, and it takes say 1 minute to start the play whereas a normal server should be able to start in about a second, this tool could give a more accurate indication of what the user experiences. If the stats are very poor, maybe people could do some digging into what is making the server so slow. Turn off whatever service they suspect, run a couple more tests (using the same tool with the same queries on the tuned server), and if these new tests show a significant and consistent drop in response time (say, a factor of two or three), then I guess they are on to something. These are just ballpark figures (and very probably a huge ballpark at that), but still the tool could be used to quantify what people see on their messed-up server. It is no different than the server stats that the nightlies can spit out. They too have to be scrutinized with care, and cannot be readily compared to other installs. Niek. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Performance measurements ?
I'm sure what they all really mean to say, Niek, is thank you very much for your contribution. :) -k ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox2 Distortion
6.2! -- Neil David Brittain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It sounds like this bug: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1718 which was fixed a while back. Which version of slimserver are you using? Dave Neil Cameron wrote: Terrible distortion; but only when synchronised with another player - which happened to be Softsqueeze. Accompanied by very high levels on all the graphic Now Playing displays... ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox2 Distortion
And I've now checked the bug report;\it's the same! -- Neil David Brittain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It sounds like this bug: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1718 which was fixed a while back. Which version of slimserver are you using? Dave Neil Cameron wrote: Terrible distortion; but only when synchronised with another player - which happened to be Softsqueeze. Accompanied by very high levels on all the graphic Now Playing displays... ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SOX vs OGGDEC problems
sdevans Wrote: I thought it was mainly my music stored as ogg files, rather than the majority of flac files, so I investigated. It appears slimserver now uses sox (?) to decode ogg files and reverting the convert.conf file back to make it use oggdec cured the problems. Has anyone else experienced this? I note that the change to SOX was to get over problems with ogg streams, but I don't do that so is there anything else I'm missing? I've seen exactly the same issue, and solved it the same way. This was when running Slimserver on a low-end (533MHz mini-ITX) Windows 2000 box. My guess is that SOX under Windows is significantly less efficient than OGGDEC. -- cliveb ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SOX vs OGGDEC problems
cheers cliveb, I'll go back to SOX if I ever upgrade the 'server' computer which is only a Pentium II, I think. Stephen. -- sdevans ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Hey markonu: _14_ SB2s?
For what it's worth, I've got two Squeezebox2s and SoftSqueeze on a 1.8Ghz Windows XP machine that synchronize fairly consistently (server is 6.1 on a 800Mhz FreeBSD machine and network is 100baseT to the Windows box, 802.11g to the Squeezebox2s for those who care). The SoftSqueeze does tend to get out of sync more often than the others.. None of them are perfect all the time. -- Mike max.spicer wrote: I've unfortunately never managed to get softsqueeze to sync with my hardware player. Even over a single track, the sync gets out by at least a second. I suspect you need a fairly quick pc to run softsqueeze if you want to do this. Mine is a 1GHz machine running XP, which is probably not enough. That said, I'm fairly optimistic about the prospect of syncing two hardware devices. Max kdf Wrote: On 18-Oct-05, at 6:58 PM, Michaelwagner wrote: that all brings up another question that's been lurking in the back of my mind for some time: Just how synched are synched slims? They are synced in that each song is buffered and started at the same time. the accuracy seems to vary a bit depending on the network topology and, to a lesser extent, the types of players. softsqueeze synced with hardware players is apparently subject to some higher latency. Accuracy would be measured more in fractions of a second than degrees of phase. there is an RFE open to base sync on a more accurate network clock, but I'm don't know when that might be implemented. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] CPU utilization hitting 100%
If you're running iTunes Update please check your iTunes rescan interval (in Server Settings-iTunes). Each played track updates the iTunes library which can trigger a rescan. James NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Permanent Please wait requesting... message
I am getting the message Please wait requesting... on the SB almost all the time now. It obviously connects to SS fine, since if you select something via the web interface it shows up immediately (and plays) on the SB. The SB handset doesn't work while the above message is on, other than to reset it. I have reset the SB and reconnected (by holding down the power button), and reinstalled the firmware, but to no avail - the SB reconnects and goes straight back to Please wait requesting... Anyone have any ideas on the problem? Thanks. Slimserver v6.1b1 Firmware 14 (and the mac address is correct) Windows 2000 Wireless connection 64bit WEP, 85% signal strength Router: Linksys WTG54G -- Khuli ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Multi Disc Sets
Gorman, I agree with you. Normally disc sets are as one whole album, but NOT always... That's why my feature request included the menu option to jump to the second (or subsequent CD) in a disc set. Looking across my library I estimate that about 90% of multi disc sets are as one. nick -- NickM ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, OggVorbis and Replaygain
Is this advice still valid for slimserver 6.1? thanks Stephen. -- sdevans ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Performance measurements ?
I'm sure what they all really mean to say, Niek, is thank you very much for your contribution. :) I know. I was just replying you're welcome, grab a cold one and put your feet up. Cheers, Niek. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Performance measurements ?
Yes, I agree with the above. Thanks for the tool. It is what it is, it's a measure of what really happened this time. It's not necessarily an accurate, repeatable measuring instrument useful for finding and squashing performance bugs - you need a better (and more calibrateable) test bed for that - but it does measure the user experience and for that it's useful. In private email a few days ago with Dean I offered to start some performance benchmarking of the code (initially I am interested in the MP3 scanning code) with an eye towards code improvement. I can't start now - I'm in the midst of quoting a million things in my day job, and in my night job I'm helping my girlfriend move her retail operation into a new, double the size storefront. Doesn't leave much time for leisure activities :-) But I'll get started in a week or two, after the store is open and I get a day or 2 off. Michael -- Michaelwagner ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Hey markonu: _14_ SB2s?
In the application I'm considering (several rooms in a spa each with own squeezebox, T-amp and speakers, so each has individual volume control), will I hear ugly phasing effects if I open a door and two areas wash into each other? Michael -- Michaelwagner ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Replay Gain Question
Hi Dean, Thank you for adding support for J.River Media Centers's Replay Gain! I was wondering if you would also consider supporting the Album Artist field from MC? It is written to a custom comment field just like replay gain. If you think it's a possibility, I'll put in an enhancement request and upload a sample file. -- MeSue Sue PS: I want a Squeezebox boombox. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How to Use Apache as Proxy?
I'm getting exactly the same issue - '403 forbidden' when trying to access the setup. Two other issues (which I guess are related) 1)Only one player can be added, and it comes up as 127.0.0.1 2)The player won't 'play'. If I click play, it doesn't highlight, and nothing plays... :( -- marcosscriven ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: IR Not Working Under 6.1.1
Great. I'll do that and report my findings back here. Thanks! -- schalliol ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Artist Composer constantly repeated
* el payo shaped the electrons to say... The latest nightlies have been having an odd problem wherein if the artist and composer names are the same, SlimServer lists them over and over and over... This has been fixed already. Please see my post in the beta forums, in response to your question there. Please try not to double post. Thanks. -D -- This knob controls the thing that changes when you turn it. - noah ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: IR Not Working Under 6.1.1
Well, I just installed the latest nightly for 6.2 and I still have the same issue :-( Any other ideas? -- schalliol ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Hey markonu: _14_ SB2s?
Michaelwagner Wrote: In the application I'm considering (several rooms in a spa each with own squeezebox, T-amp and speakers, so each has individual volume control), will I hear ugly phasing effects if I open a door and two areas wash into each other? ??? If you're going to sync them all, then why not take a traditional approach and use a whole-house audio system with one source (could still be a Squeezebox), a central amplifier, and impedance matching volume controls in each room? The SB/T-amp approach would be both a maintenance nightmare and a more costly. -- JJZolx Jim ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Multi Disc Sets
NickM wrote: Gorman, I agree with you. Normally disc sets are as one whole album, but NOT always... And sometimes, you want to split up a single CD into multiple albums. For example, I did that to the 1999 reissue of Pet Sounds, which has the entire album twice, first in the original mono, and then a new stereo remaster. That's why my feature request included the menu option to jump to the second (or subsequent CD) in a disc set. Looking across my library I estimate that about 90% of multi disc sets are as one. Meh... I just solve this entire class of problems by ignoring the disc count tags, and setting the Album and Track tags as appropriate. - Marc ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Multi Disc Sets
And sometimes, you want to split up a single CD into multiple albums. For example, I did that to the 1999 reissue of Pet Sounds, which has the entire album twice, first in the original mono, and then a new stereo remaster. That's why my feature request included the menu option to jump to the second (or subsequent CD) in a disc set. Looking across my library I estimate that about 90% of multi disc sets are as one. If they are different there is a need to keep them separate, I accomplish this by varying the name of the album slightly. Like if I have a very high bitrate recording, I add the word (Hi) in parens, or whatever the difference is, I ADD to the album name. Like in the above example I would name both albums the same, just adding the word (mono) for the 1st and (stereo rmstr)for the 2nd. If track order is also important, just make sure that the album name is the same up until the added unique word/words that are added. Maybe just use an iterative # like 1 and 2. It seems that in these rare cited examples, the thinking is that they ARE SEPARATE albums and as such need to be treated as such. -- D __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Multi Disc Sets
Dondi Fusco wrote: If they are different there is a need to keep them separate, I accomplish this by varying the name of the album slightly. Like if I have a very high bitrate recording, I add the word (Hi) in parens, or whatever the difference is, I ADD to the album name. Like in the above example I would name both albums the same, just adding the word (mono) for the 1st and (stereo rmstr)for the 2nd. If track order is also important, just make sure that the album name is the same up until the added unique word/words that are added. Maybe just use an iterative # like 1 and 2. It seems that in these rare cited examples, the thinking is that they ARE SEPARATE albums and as such need to be treated as such. Yes, that's exactly what I was trying to say. :) - Marc ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: Rumors of new device?
That song by Nina Gordon is wicked -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hiroyuki Hamada Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 10:06 AM To: Slim Devices Discussion Subject: Re: [slim] Re: Rumors of new device? Guns or the butts, that is the question... On Oct 17, 2005, at 11:32 PM, Jack Coates wrote: Carl W. Irving wrote: I think it depends on whether it is the black or gold plated edition. The gold plated edition comes with a bonus CD of: http://www.jonathancoulton.com/2005/10/14/thing-a-week-5-baby-got- back/ ... I thought that was lame, actually -- certainly not as good as this one: http://www.ninagordon.com/audio/straightouttacompton.mp3 -- Jack At Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture! I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin so across the Western ocean I must wander -- trad. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Multi Disc Sets
Marc Sherman Wrote: NickM wrote: Gorman, I agree with you. Normally disc sets are as one whole album, but NOT always... And sometimes, you want to split up a single CD into multiple albums. For example, I did that to the 1999 reissue of Pet Sounds, which has the entire album twice, first in the original mono, and then a new stereo remaster. That's why my feature request included the menu option to jump to the second (or subsequent CD) in a disc set. Looking across my library I estimate that about 90% of multi disc sets are as one. Meh... I just solve this entire class of problems by ignoring the disc count tags, and setting the Album and Track tags as appropriate. I think most people prefer the _browsing_ approach of seeing all the discs and tracks of a multi-disc album in one entry, ordered by disc number, so they set 'Treat multi-disc sets as a single album'. My one problem with 'Treat multi-disc sets as a single album' is that there's then no easy way to play a single CD from the set. Even if there's zero logical significance to disc #2 over disc #1, if you're familiar with the material and the CDs, you may just want to play just disc #2. This is the reason behind the following RFE: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1941 -- JJZolx Jim ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Performance measurements ?
I too agree that a Thank You is due for the contribution. Again, my comments are not directed at all at the tool, the contribution, or the author. And my contributions here are educational, intended for those that do not understand the issues related to benchmarking, and have expectations that the numbers received are indicative of slimserver problems. Correct me if I'm wrong - as a post in the General discussion form, which has an audience with various knowledge levels, it does seem reasonable to provide such insight as to what causes anomolies, and how benchmarking and performance evaluation must be controlled to draw meaningful conclusions. In essense what I'm saying to those that don't have this background is: understand before blame. I'll close again with a thanks to everyone for helping to make such an outstanding product! -- MrC ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimServer 6.2, How do I love thee, Let me count the ways
Here, Here! -- MrC ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Replay Gain Question
I'd like to take the credit for this excellent work, but it was Dan Sully. And as for that request, best to file an enhancement request on http://bugs.slimdevices.com/ Finally, I'd love to hear more (probably on a separate thread) about your I want a Squeezebox boombox signature. On Oct 19, 2005, at 6:44 AM, MeSue wrote: Hi Dean, Thank you for adding support for J.River Media Centers's Replay Gain! I was wondering if you would also consider supporting the Album Artist field from MC? It is written to a custom comment field just like replay gain. If you think it's a possibility, I'll put in an enhancement request and upload a sample file. -- MeSue Sue PS: I want a Squeezebox boombox. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Replay Gain, Volume Adjustment, Apple Lossless Streaming.
I have a few questions about the upcoming Replay Gain support in SlimServer 6.2. Will it support the Volume Adjustment tag in Apple Lossless files? Will it support applying Replay Gain adjustment to MP3 streams? Will it support Replay Gain volume adjustment on the SliMP3 alone or while synced? Thanks and I look forward to SlimServer going final, Steven ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Dumb question of the day!
I've been running an original squeezebox for over a year with no problems. All of my music is WMA files. I want to get an ipod and run itunes, but want to be sure that when itunes converts my files, I won't have any problems with my squeezbox. -- GUINESSHEAD ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: Queuing
Just today I have wondered if there is an webUI equivalent to push-and-hold the Add on the remote? Just keeping the plus-sign pressed will not work on a web-page ;-) Peter -Original Message- From: davep [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 19 oktober 2005 0:47 To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: [slim] Re: Queuing You can actually do two things with the ADD button - a single push adds the new track to the end of the current playlist whilst a push-and-hold action cues it up to play immediately after the currently playing track. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] I want a Squeezebox boombox
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17185 Question: Who wants a Squeezebox Boombox? - I'm interested. - No, thanks. dean Wrote: I'd love to hear more (probably on a separate thread) about your I want a Squeezebox boombox signature. Well, first some history before I bought a Squeezebox, I started by looking for a network music player with built-in speakers. I wanted to use it primarily in the bedroom and outside (poolside), but also have the choice of connecting it to my sound system in the living room (where I rarely listen to music). That left me with only two choices something from Linksys which got terrible reviews, and the MacSense HomePod. (Both are only 802.11b wireless.) Despite the mediocre reviews of HomePad, I decided to try it. Well it was awful worthless speakers, terrible screen, crapped out all the time, etc. Look up my review on Amazon if you want to know the details. After that experience I went to the Squeezebox2. It was more than I wanted to spend, but it got such good reviews I decided to go for it once I knew I could use it with PC speakers for the bedroom where I didn't have a home stereo. It works for the bedroom beautifully (aside from some headphone jack issues which are still being resolved), but I still can't conveniently use it outside or in other rooms of the house. I'm stuck burning MP3 discs and lugging around a heavy, clunky boombox to use out by the pool. :-( What I would love is something as good as the Squeezebox2 but with (decent!) built-in speakers and a single power plug. I personally don't have a need to use it on battery power, but it would be a nice option. This way I could use the box in any room of the house, even where there is no home stereo to connect to. THAT is what I would call plug and play! Of course it should also have audio outputs for connecting to a home stereo when one is available. -- MeSue Sue PS: I want a Squeezebox boombox. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Replay Gain Question
dean Wrote: best to file an enhancement request on http://bugs.slimdevices.com/ Ok, done. MC users, please vote! http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2317 dean Wrote: Finally, I'd love to hear more (probably on a separate thread) about your I want a Squeezebox boombox signature. Sure! I posted it here: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17185 -- MeSue Sue PS: I want a Squeezebox boombox. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Queuing
This can be implemented in skins--the fishbone skin has a specific button for this (immediately next to the play button) but I am unsure of which other skins support it. Peter van Cooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Just today I have wondered if there is an webUI equivalent to push-and-hold the Add on the remote? Just keeping the plus-sign pressed will not work on a web-page ;-) Peter -Original Message- From: davep [mailto:davep.1x4dtb-NUepA2SMhDQqspMVqqL2D+4xXEVPTSb/[EMAIL PROTECTED] e.org] Sent: woensdag 19 oktober 2005 0:47 To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: [slim] Re: Queuing You can actually do two things with the ADD button - a single push adds the new track to the end of the current playlist whilst a push-and-hold action cues it up to play immediately after the currently playing track. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I want a Squeezebox boombox
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17185 Question: Who wants a Squeezebox Boombox? - I'm interested. - No, thanks. Very much yes! I had wondered what a boombox was. I don't want something with huge speakers and a built in sub, which is what a boombox sounds like to me. However, if you're talking about something like a portable tape/radio/cd device, but with the tape/radio/cd replaced by a squeezebox then count me in! Being able to move something around the house at will would be fantastic. Likewise, I'm not bothered about battery support - I have plugs all around the house, and I'm unlikely to have a wireless network present when I'm somewhere without a plug. When I mentioned to my wife about the rumours of a new device being mooted on these forums, this was exactly what she hoped the new device would be, and that's independently of this new thread. Max MeSue Wrote: Well, first some history before I bought a Squeezebox, I started by looking for a network music player with built-in speakers. I wanted to use it primarily in the bedroom and outside (poolside), but also have the choice of connecting it to my sound system in the living room (where I rarely listen to music). That left me with only two choices something from Linksys which got terrible reviews, and the MacSense HomePod. (Both are only 802.11b wireless.) Despite the mediocre reviews of HomePad, I decided to try it. Well it was awful worthless speakers, terrible screen, crapped out all the time, etc. Look up my review on Amazon if you want to know the details. After that experience I went to the Squeezebox2. It was more than I wanted to spend, but it got such good reviews I decided to go for it once I knew I could use it with PC speakers for the bedroom where I didn't have a home stereo. It works for the bedroom beautifully (aside from some headphone jack issues which are still being resolved), but I still can't conveniently use it outside or in other rooms of the house. I'm stuck burning MP3 discs and lugging around a heavy, clunky boombox to use out by the pool. :-( What I would love is something as good as the Squeezebox2 but with (decent!) built-in speakers and a single power plug. I personally don't have a need to use it on battery power, but it would be a nice option. This way I could use the box in any room of the house, even where there is no home stereo to connect to. THAT is what I would call plug and play! Of course it should also have audio outputs for connecting to a home stereo when one is available. -- max.spicer The wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their terrible teeth and rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claws but Max stepped into his private boat and waved good-bye ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Moose 0.05
I have to confess I am yet to re-test the Moose as I have just reconfigured my setup and moved all my music and slimserver to a new HTPC in the attic. This has been a pain to setup and I have not yet got the courage to move all the music to a shared folder so I can access it from my laptop. I was using 6.1 but with the new computer I have switched to 6.2 so it should be interesting to see how it goes. As soon as the missus has stopped watching Friends for the Nth time I will be able to give it a go and let you know how I get on. -- mattybain Stewie: Well, Well mother we meet again. Lois: Stewie I thought I tucked you in an hour ago. Stewie: Not tightly enough it would seem, and now you contemptible harpy, I shall end your oppressive reign of matriarchal tyranny! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I want a Squeezebox boombox
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17185 Question: Who wants a Squeezebox Boombox? - I'm interested. - No, thanks. I would love this, the ability to play music in any room of the house on a whim would be great, especially for those long summer evenings BBQing outside !! (yeah right, see location!) I suspect one issue would be cost, I wonder how much cutting down on some of the outputs and also potentially a smaller display would be offset by the speakers, amplifier etc. -- mattybain Stewie: Well, Well mother we meet again. Lois: Stewie I thought I tucked you in an hour ago. Stewie: Not tightly enough it would seem, and now you contemptible harpy, I shall end your oppressive reign of matriarchal tyranny! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimServer 6.2, How do I love thee, Let me count the ways
There was a time when I was getting a little bit worried as stability issues runining my enjoyment of the SB2 but now 6.2 seems to be pretty stable I am enjoying some of the new features such as LastFM and the Squeezenetwork. This really is a fantastic device kudos to Sean,the team and all the independent developers. I keep trying to get other people to buy some but so far I have not had too much success (mainly due to cost). For me there are a few minor things which still need to be resolved like easier scanning of new music and the production of a killer GUI but for now I am very happy. DRM is not an issue for me as I avoid it like the plague but I guess for some people this is the important issue still to be resolved. -- mattybain Stewie: Well, Well mother we meet again. Lois: Stewie I thought I tucked you in an hour ago. Stewie: Not tightly enough it would seem, and now you contemptible harpy, I shall end your oppressive reign of matriarchal tyranny! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I want a Squeezebox boombox
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17185 Question: Who wants a Squeezebox Boombox? - I'm interested. - No, thanks. What a great idea. Yes, I'm definitely interested! -- Tim Winders ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Announce: SlimServer 6.2b2
Slim Devices is pleased to announce the offical 6.2 Beta 2 Release of SlimServer. Many improvements, bug fixes features have been added to this release. Notably: * Support for WMA in Firmware * Replay Gain support * Unicode Font Support on the Squeezebox2 UI. A full list of changes can be found here: http://slimdevices.com/su_changelog.html Please Note - if this is the first time you've installed a 6.2 series release, a rescan of your music collection will be automatically started. Please wait until this is completed before playing your music. - The Slim Devices Team ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Announce: SlimServer 6.2b2
* Dan Sully shaped the electrons to say... Slim Devices is pleased to announce the offical 6.2 Beta 2 Release of SlimServer. And of course the link is: http://slimdevices.com/downloads/SlimServer_v6.2b2/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: SlimServer 6.2b2
Is the firmware WMA support for Squeezebox 2 only, or will it also work with SB1? Dan Sully wrote: Slim Devices is pleased to announce the offical 6.2 Beta 2 Release of SlimServer. Many improvements, bug fixes features have been added to this release. Notably: * Support for WMA in Firmware * Replay Gain support * Unicode Font Support on the Squeezebox2 UI. A full list of changes can be found here: http://slimdevices.com/su_changelog.html Please Note - if this is the first time you've installed a 6.2 series release, a rescan of your music collection will be automatically started. Please wait until this is completed before playing your music. - The Slim Devices Team ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: SlimServer 6.2b2
* Alok K. Dhir shaped the electrons to say... Is the firmware WMA support for Squeezebox 2 only, or will it also work with SB1? It is for Squeezebox2 only. -D -- You have the puzzle pieces? Good, then turn off the damn walls. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: softsqueeze stutters at the beginning of songs
From the Server Network Health page on the new Slimserver: Squeezebox2 uses a large buffer. This drains to 0 at the end of each track and then refills for the next track. You should only be concerned if the buffer fill is not high for the majority of the time a track is playing. Is it safe to assume SoftSqueeze 2.0 works the same way? --Mike mrfantasy Wrote: It seems that SoftSqueeze, at least, is buffering a song at a time. I guess this would make sense if there was no playlist, but I'm playing either Random Mix lists (which load the next 10 songs so the server always knows the next song) or albums in linear play (again, the next song is predictable.) I'd expect the buffer to deplete in Shuffle play because the next song isn't determined until the current one ends, but it seems the server and player should not deplete the buffer after each song if it knows the next one. Interestingly, it starts filling again before the song completely ends, but it goes to zero first. I don't know if this is working as designed, or if the SqueezeBox2 works this way as well, but keeping the buffer full whenever possible would improve performance over the Internet (I'm using Softsqueeze to access my home player over a congested Internet connection at work--frequently I can't stream 128k reliably, I'm running 96 now.) -- mrfantasy --Mike ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
SV: [slim] Announce: SlimServer 6.2b2
What happens if I have both SB1 and SB2 on same server? Do I stick to 6.1 version? Kind Regards Tore Johnsson -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Dan Sully Skickat: den 19 oktober 2005 21:10 Till: Slim Devices Discussion Kopia: beta@lists.slimdevices.com; Slim Devices Developers Ämne: Re: [slim] Announce: SlimServer 6.2b2 * Alok K. Dhir shaped the electrons to say... Is the firmware WMA support for Squeezebox 2 only, or will it also work with SB1? It is for Squeezebox2 only. -D -- You have the puzzle pieces? Good, then turn off the damn walls. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] replaygain = mp3gain??
For my collection I have used MP3gain to tag information about output level. I was under the impression (and experienced) that this was a way to 'level' the files that came from different sources. Now, there's Replaygain support, which basically does the same. But from where does it get the info? I have not understood the difference between MP3Gain and Replaygain, if any. (though Mp3gain is a preparation, and replaygain is a correction during replay?) If using Mp3gain to correct the files to a certain level, does that make Replaygain unnecessary? Do the methods influence each other? I really hope someone can explain this and tell me the best method to 'level' different files. Thanks Peter -- SlimPvC ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I want a Squeezebox boombox
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17185 Question: Who wants a Squeezebox Boombox? - I'm interested. - No, thanks. I just got my 2nd SB2 for my bedroom, and am using an old pair of powered Sony speakers (SRS-100) via the headphone out. Sounds fantastic. IMHO, a boom box would be too bulky, and not offer much speaker separation. There are lots of compact powered speakers on the market that would work equally well. -- sleepysurf squeezebox2 (with elpac wm075-1950-760 linear psu) direct to amp using slimserver preamp vol control, 300gb buffalo linkstation (remote flac audio file storage), sunfire cinema grand 200 ~five (vertically bi-amped) driving martin-logan aerius i's, blue jeans cables. 'Click to see pix of my system' (http://www.martinloganowners.com/~tdacquis/forum/showthread.php?t=732) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: SV: [slim] Announce: SlimServer 6.2b2
Quoting Tore Johnsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What happens if I have both SB1 and SB2 on same server? Do I stick to 6.1 version? 6.2 will handle ALL slim devices players, even the SliMP3. SB2 will ask for a firmware update, but older players will connect and play as before. -k ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
SV: SV: [slim] Announce: SlimServer 6.2b2
KDF Thanks for your quick answer Tore -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För kdf Skickat: den 19 oktober 2005 21:32 Till: Slim Devices Discussion Ämne: Re: SV: [slim] Announce: SlimServer 6.2b2 Quoting Tore Johnsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What happens if I have both SB1 and SB2 on same server? Do I stick to 6.1 version? 6.2 will handle ALL slim devices players, even the SliMP3. SB2 will ask for a firmware update, but older players will connect and play as before. -k ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SV: Announce: SlimServer 6.2b2
Tore Wrote: What happens if I have both SB1 and SB2 on same server? Do I stick to 6.1 version? * Alok K. Dhir shaped the electrons to say... Is the firmware WMA support for Squeezebox 2 only, or will it also work with SB1? It is for Squeezebox2 only. No. Dan meant that WMA support is for SB2 only. SB1 will play perfectly well with slimserver 6.2, but will not support WMA native. BTW: is the mailing list gateway broken? I don't get any mails from the list :-( -- mherger Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I want a Squeezebox boombox
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17185 Question: Who wants a Squeezebox Boombox? - I'm interested. - No, thanks. Of course powered speakers will work, but this is about being portable. If I want to use my SB2 outside, using your suggestion, I would have to carry: 1 Squeezebox 1 remote 2 speakers 2 power bricks speaker cables and then find a power outlet with 2 plugs, connect everything, and then break it all down when I want to locations again. Not gonna happen. -- MeSue Sue PS: I want a Squeezebox boombox. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I want a Squeezebox boombox
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17185 Question: Who wants a Squeezebox Boombox? - I'm interested. - No, thanks. I think an amp/SB combo might be a worthwhile product for Slim Devices to pursue - just add an inexpensive (or expensive) set of speakers and you have a complete system. But built in speakers? Nah. Boomboxes are portable, but a Squeezebox boombox would only be portable within the network where it can talk to a SlimServer. You couldn't take it to the beach, for example, without also taking a laptop to run SlimServer. Squeezenetwork is a possibility, but it requires a 'net connection, also hampering portability. That makes an SB boombox a very expensive product with limited utility. -- JJZolx Jim ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: SlimServer 6.2b2
Does this mean I can stream WMA from my Linux server? Cheers, -b On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 12:09 -0700, Dan Sully wrote: * Alok K. Dhir shaped the electrons to say... Is the firmware WMA support for Squeezebox 2 only, or will it also work with SB1? It is for Squeezebox2 only. -D -- You have the puzzle pieces? Good, then turn off the damn walls. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Announce: SlimServer 6.2b2
* David A. Chappel shaped the electrons to say... Does this mean I can stream WMA from my Linux server? Yes - provided it is lossy WMA, and not lossless WMA. -D -- I'm really looking forward to this hangover. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Announce: SlimServer 6.2b2
Impressive. Thanks! -b On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 13:03 -0700, Dan Sully wrote: * David A. Chappel shaped the electrons to say... Does this mean I can stream WMA from my Linux server? Yes - provided it is lossy WMA, and not lossless WMA. -D -- I'm really looking forward to this hangover. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Hey markonu: _14_ SB2s?
Yes you will.. sometimes. My two Squeezebox2s sit in the family room downstairs and bedrooms upstairs. They have issues with sync sometimes. It's annoying but manageable for home use. I wouldn't find it acceptable for a business though. On the plus side, I imagine the problem is solvable in software. If you are really going to be purchasing a large number of them I imagine you can leverage the situation to have Slim Devices do some software enhancements to improve the situation. Or possibly hire your own contractor to do the enhancements. Also a spa would no doubt make some good possible advertising for Slim Devices, so maybe you let them take some pictures inside with some quotes in exchange for the extra work? Hit them up, you don't know unless you try. They're a business just like you, you may be able to help each other out. -- Mike Michaelwagner wrote: In the application I'm considering (several rooms in a spa each with own squeezebox, T-amp and speakers, so each has individual volume control), will I hear ugly phasing effects if I open a door and two areas wash into each other? Michael ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I want a Squeezebox boombox
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17185 Question: Who wants a Squeezebox Boombox? - I'm interested. - No, thanks. Yes I appreciate that but I just want to be able to use it around the house, in the kitchen if doing some heavy duty cooking, utility room if ironing, back garden if the weather is nice, garage if I am tinkering - you get the picture. I don't want lots of wires or effort, just a portable device that has one plug and that sounds reasonably good. -- mattybain Stewie: Well, Well mother we meet again. Lois: Stewie I thought I tucked you in an hour ago. Stewie: Not tightly enough it would seem, and now you contemptible harpy, I shall end your oppressive reign of matriarchal tyranny! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I want a Squeezebox boombox
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17185 Question: Who wants a Squeezebox Boombox? - I'm interested. - No, thanks. This guy did, back in SLIMP3 days: http://www.olsontribe.com/slimp3/ -- mapper ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SlimServer 6.1.1. dies in call to time2str upon ALARM
dean blackketter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Both of those errors imply some kind of corruption in the software or memory. First thing I'd do is run some diagnostics on your machine (memory test, disk test), just to be on the safe side. Just for the record, Dean: you were spot on; 1 of 4 memory clips was showing early signs of Altzheimers... :( ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I want a Squeezebox boombox
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17185 Question: Who wants a Squeezebox Boombox? - I'm interested. - No, thanks. Well, Roku is already offering a table radio version of their Soundbridge, though I don't believe it currently supports Slimserver. Might wander over to their forums to inquire g. Actually, something like a sled with self-contained amp/speakers/power that the SB2 docks into would be cool! -- sleepysurf squeezebox2 (with elpac wm075-1950-760 linear psu) direct to amp using slimserver preamp vol control, 300gb buffalo linkstation (remote flac audio file storage), sunfire cinema grand 200 ~five (vertically bi-amped) driving martin-logan aerius i's, blue jeans cables. 'Click to see pix of my system' (http://www.martinloganowners.com/~tdacquis/forum/showthread.php?t=732) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] bigger antenna improvements?
Greg Klanderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When did you get your SB1? I got mine in January, and initially had problems with wireless signal strength which were solved with help from Rico at Slimdevices support. Here are the relevant emails: | That's pretty recent so I'm fairly certain your player will have the | purple colored card.. for some reason one of the sma connectors on the | card does not provide the same performance as the one on the opposite | side. Hopefully changing that will improve wireless performance for | you. | you may be able to remedy the wireless issues you are having.. use | it to unscrew the four screws on the bottom of the Squeezebox and | take the top off the unit. If there is a purple wireless card | inside, go ahead and disconnect the antenna tail from the wireless | card and reconnect it to the hole on the opposite side of the card, | farthest from the display. If the player has a white wireless card | or if you would rather send it in let me know. I got so fed up with my SB1's poor reception today that I followed the instructions above. Now I am staring at a white WLAN card with some interesting hand markings E and 1.5.6. P/N: 9514-3302ISC5 S/N: BF430461100018 Where do I go from here? The thingy looks to me like a standard PCMCIA card. I have a few of those floating around my household. Do I just replace it? Or is there anything more clever I can do? Thanks - ovr. PS: I know it's a SB1 problem coz I can happily operate any other 802.11b device in the same locale with perfectly adequate signal strength. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Moose 0.05
Okay she has finished. Firstly add to playlist does indeed work correctly, however I now get a error message (below) if I simply want to play the track (i.e. click on play and not add). I am not sure what the difference between Name and Date tabs are above the list of artist name. Clicking on Name brings up some weird album names as artists, clicking on Date is a more sensible list. Would it be possible to only show music files at the bottom and not all the other chuff such as album art etc. Could you also bring the Add button closer to the list of songs or have a right click or button shortcut to add it. For me simply clicking on the song should add rather than play, as this is what I would be doing the most. Apart from these little gripes it is great, I love the quickness and simplicity of it and also the fact you can click on the time bar to skip to that place in the song. Error message ** Exception Text ** System.FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format. at System.Number.ParseInt32(String s, NumberStyles style, NumberFormatInfo info) at Moose.ServerInfo.VersionSixOrGreater() at Moose.MooseForm.DoTelnetStuff(String sCommand) at Moose.MooseForm.DoPlay(String sCommand) at Moose.MooseForm.DoPlay() at Moose.MooseForm.buttonPlay_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message m) at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message m) at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message m) at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message m) at System.Windows.Forms.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message m) at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam) -- mattybain Stewie: Well, Well mother we meet again. Lois: Stewie I thought I tucked you in an hour ago. Stewie: Not tightly enough it would seem, and now you contemptible harpy, I shall end your oppressive reign of matriarchal tyranny! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: softsqueeze stutters at the beginning of songs
Squeezebox2 uses a large buffer. This drains to 0 at the end of each track and then refills for the next track. You should only be concerned if the buffer fill is not high for the majority of the time a track is playing. Is it safe to assume SoftSqueeze 2.0 works the same way? Yes - if you enable buffer fullness display (player settings, now playing) and change to the now playing screen, you will see that it drains to 0% and then refills just before the end of a track. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Hey markonu: _14_ SB2s?
JJZolx Wrote: If you're going to sync them all, then why not take a traditional approach Because depending on the individual esthetician and the treatment being given, each room may play quiet relaxing music or the general channel. If the general channel, I have a potential phasing problem when the door opens. -- Michaelwagner ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Covering on remote
Having had my SqueezeBox2 remote for a couple of months now, the covering is starting to bubble and look bad. I'm talking about the clear plastic cover that entirely covers the non-black bits on the front of the remote and has cut out holes to go round all the buttons. Is this cover meant to be a temporary thing? Should I just take it off completely when it gets worse? Will this mean that the printed bits come off soon after? Max -- max.spicer The wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their terrible teeth and rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claws but Max stepped into his private boat and waved good-bye ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Covering on remote
Quoting max.spicer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Having had my SqueezeBox2 remote for a couple of months now, the covering is starting to bubble and look bad. I'm talking about the clear plastic cover that entirely covers the non-black bits on the front of the remote and has cut out holes to go round all the buttons. Is this cover meant to be a temporary thing? Should I just take it off completely when it gets worse? Will this mean that the printed bits come off soon after? It's just a typical protective cover for shipping. just rip it off. -k ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Covering on remote
I peeled it off both of mine without any problem. I assumed it was just temporary protection. -- Fifer ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Covering on remote
Ah, that's because you forgot to read the fine print about how bending, folding and mutilating the material is a crime punishable by not less than a fine of $500.00 and a jail term of not less than 30 days, not to mention how it voids the warranty and causes the remote to irrevokably give up the ghost within seventy-two hours of removal. __ I peeled it off both of mine without any problem. I assumed it was just temporary protection. -- Fifer ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Covering on remote
Think I'll let it bubble more before I take it off - for something just there for shipping it's actually stuck down remarkably well! More than my bitten nails can cope with anyway... Max kdf Wrote: Quoting max.spicer max.spicer.1x64bb (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com: Having had my SqueezeBox2 remote for a couple of months now, the covering is starting to bubble and look bad. I'm talking about the clear plastic cover that entirely covers the non-black bits on the front of the remote and has cut out holes to go round all the buttons. Is this cover meant to be a temporary thing? Should I just take it off completely when it gets worse? Will this mean that the printed bits come off soon after? It's just a typical protective cover for shipping. just rip it off. -k -- max.spicer The wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their terrible teeth and rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claws but Max stepped into his private boat and waved good-bye ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: replaygain = mp3gain??
Peter,
ReplayGain is a method of normalising ('levelling') the percieved
volume across files in a collection of MP3's/Flac files etc without
actually changing the music data itself.
The normalisation is done by analysing the file and writing a volume
adjustement level into the comment tags of the files. the files will
then all play at the same volume when re-played by a device that reads,
understands the tags and applies the volume change so all files play
back at the same volume.
MP3Gain is an app that does the file analysis and writes the comment to
the MP3 file. It usually normalises everything to 89Db.
If you look at the song info in the Web UI of Slimserver you see the
volume adjustement info stored in the file. e.g.
Title: One More Robot/Sympathy 3000-21
Artist: Flaming Lips
Album: Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots
Genre: Rock
Track: 2
File Format:MP3
Duration: 4:59
Year: 2002
Volume Adjustment: 0.40 dB
.. this song needs a boost of .40Db whereas ...
Title: Big Snake
Artist: Lloyd Cole The Commotions
Album: Mainstream
Genre: Unknown
Track: 8
File Format:MP3
Duration: 5:16
Year: 1987
Volume Adjustment: -0.02 dB
.. this song needs the volume lowered.
The actual song data wasn't altered by MP3Gain, but the Squeezebox is
performing the normalisation on-the-fly during playback.
Mick
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[slim] Re: replaygain = mp3gain??
mp3gain can also apply the gain directly to the files so that the playback device does not have to understand the replaygain standard. If you've chosen this method you probably would want to turn off replaygain for mp3 files in slimserver so you don't get the volume adjustment performed twice. -- jth ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] HandHeld skin problems in 6.2b2
It's been a while since I used my PDA for SlimServer control, but I've run in to a problem with it. This is running on an HP iPAQ with Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition using Internet Explorer. When on the status screen I click the next button and the song advances, but when it refreshes the next time I get a 403 Forbidden. Changing the CSRF Protection Level to None solves this but introduces another problem. The next time it refreshes it works fine, but the following time and every time after that it automatically hits next. Basically I hear 30 seconds of every song before the PDA's refreshing of the URL advances the song without user intervention. As you can imagine this makes the HandHeld skin pretty useless at this point. Does anyone have some input on how to solve this or troubleshooting I can do to get to the root of the problem to get this fixed? -- Mike ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: replaygain = mp3gain??
oh yeah, I forgot about that. You can have MP3gain apply normalisation to the file and this does alter/degrade each file as it decodes, normalises re-encodes each file MP3Gain still writes the gain values into the comments fields, as an Undo option, but I don't recommend altering the files this way. I'm not sure if Mp3Gain writes the comments with the same name in this case, but if it does, then any device which understands the tag would apply a volume adjustment to an already normalised file making things worse. -- oreillymj ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Real Audio file problem
I have a few Real Audio files that Slimserver doesn't recognise. I assume this is because this is not a supported format. If so, is there a programme (ideally free of course) that can convert these in to a supported file format? Cheers! Oli -- oli ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Announce: SlimServer 6.2b2
does this also mean that Squeezenetwork has been upgraded to allow wma radio streams to be accessed ? -- gingerneil ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: I want a Squeezebox boombox
MeSue wrote: Of course powered speakers will work, but this is about being portable. If I want to use my SB2 outside, using your suggestion, I would have to carry: 1 Squeezebox 1 remote 2 speakers 2 power bricks speaker cables … and then find a power outlet with 2 plugs, connect everything, and then break it all down when I want to locations again. Not gonna happen. DIY! :) You could do something like the nice wooden case recently posted, or alternatively, purchase or re-use a milk crate or box or 5 gallon bucket or Millenium Falcon or... Crate permanently contains: 2 speakers 2 power bricks (Squeezebox one is extra ordered from Slimdevices site) 1 remote speaker cables power strip/y adapter If the power bricks and power strip are zip-tied to the side of the milk crate or kept in a false bottom (place sheet of black cardboard on top with a small hole cut for headphone and power connector) of a box, things are kept tidy. When you want to use the Squeezebox outside away from your stereo, unplug the power cable and speaker connections, and place the Squeezebox in the conveniently stored crate. Connect speakers to headphone jack, plug power cable into Squeezebox. Carry your one item (crate) outside, extract squeezebox and speakers (if desired; speakers could be embedded/attached to the box, and a window or hole could be put in for the Squeezebox display/IR), arrange as desired, plug power strip into outdoor outlet or extension cable. Presto! ;) This method is not as elegant as a all-in-one factory unit, but also keeps your Squeezebox available for use inside without sticking an ugly boombox on the shelf. Nick -- Nick Silberstein Senior Developer Flying Machine Development, Inc. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Announce: SlimServer 6.2b2
It has not yet, but will be very soon. On Oct 19, 2005, at 4:18 PM, gingerneil wrote: does this also mean that Squeezenetwork has been upgraded to allow wma radio streams to be accessed ? -- gingerneil ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I want a Squeezebox boombox
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17185 Question: Who wants a Squeezebox Boombox? - I'm interested. - No, thanks. Nick Silberstein Wrote: DIY! :) Believe me, I've thought about it! I guess I'd like something nicer looking than what I could cobble together. But if SlimSanta doesn't bring the SlimDock by next summer, I might take a stab at it. -- MeSue Sue PS: I want a Squeezebox boombox. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Multi Disc Sets
Marc Sherman wrote:... Meh... I just solve this entire class of problems by ignoring the disc count tags, and setting the Album and Track tags as appropriate. - Marc Yeah, same here -- particularly with audiobooks, which come on a brazillion CDs. I just set Album to whatever for the whole pile, then manually redo the track numbers as 1-100 instead of 1-12, 1-11, 1-14, c. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... If this is Paradise, I wish I had a lawnmower. -- The Talking Heads ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Hey markonu: _14_ SB2s?
Mike Benjamin wrote: Yes you will.. sometimes. My two Squeezebox2s sit in the family room downstairs and bedrooms upstairs. They have issues with sync sometimes. It's annoying but manageable for home use. I wouldn't find it acceptable for a business though. Clarification -- it's mildly annoying when playing short songs from local media. It's unacceptable when playing Internet radio stations. I actually ended up unsyncing when we started getting interested in Internet radio, and we just play different music in different rooms now. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... If this is Paradise, I wish I had a lawnmower. -- The Talking Heads ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: CPU utilization hitting 100%
Michaelwagner Wrote: Please tell us, which operating system, which processor, which version of slim. I'm running WinXP Home, Pentium 4, Slim 6.1.1 My iTune reload interval is set to 60. -- Lumsmore ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I want a Squeezebox boombox
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17185 Question: Who wants a Squeezebox Boombox? - I'm interested. - No, thanks. Or use a somewhat heftier boombox (one of those with detachable speakers), especially one with a top-mounted cd or tape drive. Rip out the cd/tape, dremel a cut-out ledge for the sb2, and use the power supply and amp of the boombox. If it wasn't miserable and wet here, I might do that for music outside.. or maybe it will get so miserable and wet it will be a winter project... (The office needs an sb2 now, too.. softsqueeze is nice, sure, but it's not as stable as a real sb2... :)) -- snarlydwarf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How to use FLAC?
Hiroyuki Wrote: Munge, Currently there is a bug with the SB2 using the Apple lossless. It cuts off the beginning of each songs slightly. Sometimes you will notice that by listening to the beginning of the songs but that's rare. The most problematic thing with that is when you are listening to a continuous live recording CDs or any continuous recordings, you will notice the gap between songs. It gives you slight clicking sound between the songs. I have a lot of Apple lossless files myself and I'm hoping that the issue will be solved soon. Best, Hiroyuki On Sep 19, 2005, at 8:58 AM, Munge wrote: well, you are in luck my friend, as i have FINALLY figured out the solution to our problem. after about 6 months of effort and going back and forth with tech support, i now have flawless apple lossless playback. the key is to first go into the server options under file type. there you will see the three apple lossless checkboxes, one for AIFF, one for FLAC and one for MP3. the first two must be unchecked leaving just the apple-MP3 option checked. next go to player settings and go to audio. the last option, bitrate limit, should be set to no limit so the apple lossless files will be streamed as uncompressed pcm. this has resulted in not having that pause in the beginning of each song that has caused me to nearly go crazy over the past 6 months. let me know if it works for you, it sure did for me!!! -- indianajones ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: cannot get library to match iTunes
I noticed, when playing around, that if you check the option Group Discs under Behavior, you will get different counts in iTunes and Squeezebox2, if you have multi-disc sets. That's because a name like Complete Piano Music (Disc 2) will get joined with Complete Piano Music (Disc 1) by Squeezebox2, but iTunes would leave them separate. Also if you haven't told Squeezebox to rescan your music recently, the counts will be different. My iTunes also has a problem with duplicate MP3s in different folders (because I renamed them and they didn't delete the old ones)--duplicates may get handled differently. -- wprestong ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Active Speakers not powering down
Hello All, I have active speakers hooked up to the SB2 in the auto power on mode. I tried mute, power down methods on the SB2 but the speakers remain on for ever, unless I pull the power cord out of the SB2. Is there a remedy for this? Please Advice. -- xidium ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Announce: SlimServer 6.2b2
Dan Sully Wrote: * David A. Chappel shaped the electrons to say... Does this mean I can stream WMA from my Linux server? Yes - provided it is lossy WMA, and not lossless WMA. Is WMA Lossless still transcoded on the server? And if so, how does SlimServer know whether it's lossless or lossy? -- mkozlows ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I want a Squeezebox boombox
A second sqeezy would fit nicely on top of one of these: http://www.cambridgesoundworks.com/store/category.cgi?category=aud_radioitem=c174rczzz Cheers, -d On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 11:18 -0700, MeSue wrote: A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17185 Question: Who wants a Squeezebox Boombox? - I'm interested. - No, thanks. dean Wrote: I'd love to hear more (probably on a separate thread) about your I want a Squeezebox boombox signature. Well, first some history before I bought a Squeezebox, I started by looking for a network music player with built-in speakers. I wanted to use it primarily in the bedroom and outside (poolside), but also have the choice of connecting it to my sound system in the living room (where I rarely listen to music). That left me with only two choices something from Linksys which got terrible reviews, and the MacSense HomePod. (Both are only 802.11b wireless.) Despite the mediocre reviews of HomePad, I decided to try it. Well it was awful worthless speakers, terrible screen, crapped out all the time, etc. Look up my review on Amazon if you want to know the details. After that experience I went to the Squeezebox2. It was more than I wanted to spend, but it got such good reviews I decided to go for it once I knew I could use it with PC speakers for the bedroom where I didn't have a home stereo. It works for the bedroom beautifully (aside from some headphone jack issues which are still being resolved), but I still can't conveniently use it outside or in other rooms of the house. I'm stuck burning MP3 discs and lugging around a heavy, clunky boombox to use out by the pool. :-( What I would love is something as good as the Squeezebox2 but with (decent!) built-in speakers and a single power plug. I personally don't have a need to use it on battery power, but it would be a nice option. This way I could use the box in any room of the house, even where there is no home stereo to connect to. THAT is what I would call plug and play! Of course it should also have audio outputs for connecting to a home stereo when one is available. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Active Speakers not powering down
Do the speakers hum a bit? -- Michaelwagner ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Hey markonu: _14_ SB2s?
Thanks. That doesn't sound like a very good situation ... -- Michaelwagner ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: Announce: SlimServer 6.2b2
With the support of Unicode. Does that mean it support Chinese display? DO I still need to download the 3 fonts as indicated from previous thread before? The reason I asked is beause I use Infrant NAS which natively support slimserver, but I cannot install the fonts directly on to NAS. Arthur -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Sully Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 11:54 AM To: Slim Devices Discussion Subject: [slim] Re: Announce: SlimServer 6.2b2 * mkozlows shaped the electrons to say... Does this mean I can stream WMA from my Linux server? Yes - provided it is lossy WMA, and not lossless WMA. Is WMA Lossless still transcoded on the server? It is. And if so, how does SlimServer know whether it's lossless or lossy? The WMA metadata has a flag denoting lossless. -D -- Adobe Photoshop - When you want the truth. Real bad. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Re: Announce: SlimServer 6.2b2
* Arthur Cheng shaped the electrons to say... With the support of Unicode. Does that mean it support Chinese display? DO I still need to download the 3 fonts as indicated from previous thread before? Yes it does. And you only need to download 1 of the 3 fonts. -D -- iNoah you know, most free operating systems come preinstalled with their own high horse. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Active Speakers not powering down
I don't hear any hum from the speakers, it just stays on. -- xidium ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] HandHeld skin problems in 6.2b2
Mike This is running on an HP iPAQ with Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition using Internet Explorer. I still don't have a PocketPC to test with :-/. When on the status screen I click the next button and the song advances, but when it refreshes the next time I get a 403 Forbidden. Changing the CSRF Protection Level to None solves this but introduces another problem. The next time it refreshes it works fine, but the following time and every time after that it automatically hits next. I can't reproduce this. Neither the CSRF problem nor the automatic skip. But there was some redundant code in the HTML which might have caused problems (redirect using both the meta tag and javascript). I checked in a change for this to subversion. It should be in the 20/10 nightly. Please report back if this fixes your problem. -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the StringEditor Plugin (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
