Re: [slim] Let's make the Squeezebox to the ultimate music discovery device!
TO EVERYONE THAT HAVEN'T POSTED YET: First of all, I just like to say that this thread turned out to get really interesting, so people who haven't posted yet, please post your thoughts to the questions in the initial post. If you are interested in music discovery related features, I want to hear your thoughts. If you don't want to post in public for some reason, send me a PM or mail with your answers and I'll not tell anyone who I got them from. Don't be scared of repeating what someone already has said, you don't have to read through the whole thread, just read the questions in the first post and post your answers and ideas. TO ANYONE THAT'S WONDERING ABOUT THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS: At the moment I'm only proposing that Squeezeboxes need improved features related to music discovery, the purpose is to make it more interesting to listen to your own library and make the purchase process when getting new music easier and more interesting, at least the process until you have decided what to purchase. The actual purchase (after you have decided what to get) is probably out of the scope at the moment because that involves more work than I reasonably think can be done as a community effort. The idea with this thread is to start by gathering the needs/ideas from as many people as possible without going into technical details, I plan to continue the process later on with a thread more focused at how to do. However, I'd like some more people to post in this thread first and I'd also like everyone interested in helping to digest all posts and do some analysis. Basically, let's do the analyzing of the whole music discovery area before starting to implement individual features. I would like this thread to continue being focused at how people want music discovery to work and not at technical/architectural implementation details, but I'll give the people that wonders some answers below but I don't plan to start discussing them in this thread, there will be time to take that discussion later on in a separate thread. I've thought about a total re-write of SBS several times but I don't think it's the best option. Also, I do realize that if Logitech barely is able to maintain it with 5 full time developers there is no way myself and a few other community members can do it on their spare time. Also, possibly parts might need to be rewritten/changed but definitely not everything. SBS is really good at many things it's just that music discovery related features never has got enough focus. We have a lot of plugins already so I don't think we just need another plugin, what we need is to think about is the whole music discovery functionality area and decide how to solve the different parts to make them work together as a system. Some things might be suitable as an additional plugin and other things is suitable to add the core SBS products and with the right patch it might be possible to get Logitech to add it. Other things might be suitable to add to already existing plugins. Regarding my own plugins like SQL Playlist, Custom Browse and TrackStat I think they are all starting to reach a state where a re-write is appropriate. The main reasons being that: - When I started to do them they were developed as a temporary solution until Logitech had done something permanently. - It was the first perl code I've ever written in my life which means that some parts are rather messy. - I had only use Squeezebox'es for a few weeks/months when I started to develop them, I have a lot more experience from the Squeezebox products today. What I want to be the result of all this is a more permanent solution. If possible I would also like more people to be involved in the development, working more together instead of individual developers working alone and barely talking to each other. I also have some hope that Logitech resources at least can be involved in the integration points/API's, I would prefer to do this together with Logitech even thought they probably mainly want to focus on other areas than music discovery. I can say that I've had some really positive unofficial mail conversations with some of the Logitech developers and it feels like there is a chance to do something together as long as it doesn't conflict with their own work/ideas. However, I don't think we should expect to get more than a few development/QA hours from Logitech. Still, it's really important to take advantage of their experience of the system and their knowledge about parts that they need anyway for their own focus area (whatever that is). Finally, to anyone with knowledge or resources to setup cloud based computing or central servers, feel free to start to think about what you can do in all this. My personal feeling is that there is a lot of metadata about music involved in all this that would be even better if we shared it and improved it together. There are already central solutions available for this with open API's, for example LastFM and Musicbrainz and
Re: [slim] [Announce] iPeng 1.2.5 now on the App Store
pippin;567014 Wrote: Did you use that? I thought I was the only one Um - it was the default for iPeng, I left it that way and now wondered, why cover art looks different on the main screen. As I'm not using iPeng much ;) I don't care, just wanted to let you know. -- bluegaspode Big Screen for great Boxes available now at your AppStore: *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/squeezepad/id380003002) *! Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? = why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? = why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) Setup: 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 1xSB-Radio Server (7.5.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80940 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !
Hi Ron, 1. The current playlist should be accessible by one touch at all times. 3. Highlight the currently playing track in the current playlist. When I implement better playlist support, there will be an icon on the right and a playlist-only window will move in (which you can dismiss again). The current menu will be removed then I guess. 2. There should be a return to home screen icon available at all times. There is already! Just long tap the menu title (or this little arrow I implented in the latest version) This feature was available from the very first version (and documented in the App-description). -- bluegaspode Big Screen for great Boxes available now at your AppStore: *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/squeezepad/id380003002) *! Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? = why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? = why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) Setup: 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 1xSB-Radio Server (7.5.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] UPS recommendations for my Vortexbox Appliance
We have only few rules in this forum: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43454 This thread unfortunately must be closed because it's violating more than just one of those simple rules. -- mherger Michael - http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR mherger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80889 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android
I use Squeezecommander on my Android 1.5 phone and it works a treat. Keith -- KMorgan - Sorry, can't spare enough hours today for that 5 min job on the computer. KMorgan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80973 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [Announce] iPeng 1.2.5 now on the App Store
Nice update Pippin, thank you for your hard work! Looking forward to the iPad-version already! Also, please let me know if you would like to add a Dutch language pack. In that case I could provide the translation. -- hvb83 hvb83's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39615 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80940 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
pippin;566802 Wrote: Actually that's usually not a server issue since iPeng caches the artwork on the device. The problem here is that scrolling on an iThingy takes 90% of the CPU power and prioritizes so much higher than the main thread that you have no chance to bring in artwork from the flash disc and it's simply soo much artwork to keep it all in memory. iPad has more memory (but will use bigger artwork so this will probably offset it) and also, it only applies to scrolling. Now I'm not one to start argueing with you on what is and what is not stored on the iPhone within the app you developed yourself. But I moved from a Synology DS207+ to a DS210+ and, amongst other improvements, experienced a definate improvement in artwork loading-times. On the old server, even if the albumlist was shown for seconds, artwork wasn't shown, this isn't the case anymore. So even if it stores artwork on the phone itself, there must be some request going to the server prior to showing the artwork? :S -- hvb83 hvb83's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39615 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [Announce] iPeng 1.2.5 now on the App Store
pippin;567055 Wrote: Didn't know these are Custom Browse. It's the default Artist menu that comes with Custom Browse. You should be able to test this out yourself if you have Custom Browse installed. Have you set the playlist menu type to Album (don't ask me how)? Do you mean the Playlists menu? No, I don't think so. Do you get a Track menu (with iPeng's Play Shuffled/Play All items? Yes, and tapping the first item plays all tracks, but it just doesn't switch to the NowPlaying menu. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80940 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !
bluegaspode;567074 Wrote: There is already! Just long tap the menu title (or this little arrow I implented in the latest version) This feature was available from the very first version (and documented in the App-description). Thanks for pointing this out; it certainly isn't obvious. I still think a Home icon would be a good idea. There is screen real estate available for one. A feature as necessary as this should have an icon and not an inobvious long tap gesture, in my opinion. -- Ron Olsen Ron Olsen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9233 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android phone + Squeeze Commander + Rhapsody = THE BEST 3-SOME EVER!
Henry66;567017 Wrote: Does this affect all phones running 2.1 or just some with specific hardware? I have a Samsung Galaxy S Captivate. I'm not sure. According to the bug tracker, it's a bug in the wpa_supplicant binary on *HTC* devices. If you have root access, you can even replace the wpa_supplicant binary with the vanilla one and UDP broadcasts work again. AFAIK, it *does work* on e.g. a Nexus One with 2.1, so it really looks like a HTC problem. -- flattermann Christian Home of 'SqueezeCommander' (http://www.squeezecommander.com) - The SqueezeBox Remote Control App for Android flattermann's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78057 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android
stevecross;567065 Wrote: Good morning guys, is it possible to use an android based phone to control my squeezebox,using an app. I am still using 1.5 There are several Apps for Android available in the Market, most of them also work on 1.5. -- flattermann Christian Home of 'SqueezeCommander' (http://www.squeezecommander.com) - The SqueezeBox Remote Control App for Android flattermann's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80973 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Using ipod touch as remote control ........
Me and my girlfriend 've both got an iPhone, which adds another plus; the controller is probably somewhere between the pile of newspapers when you're looking for it, or on the couch, or in the charging dock, or somewhere else where you forgot about it. One of us is probably carrying it's phone on him, and if not, then most of the times there is a phone laying around somewhere around the house to control your music with anyway. And if I put on a track, she can startup iPeng and the same album comes up, effectively making it one controller. Very nifty. -- hvb83 hvb83's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39615 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79960 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android phone + Squeeze Commander + Rhapsody = THE BEST 3-SOME EVER!
flattermann;567094 Wrote: AFAIK, it *does work* on e.g. a Nexus One with 2.1, so it really looks like a HTC problem. That sounds like an issue with the htc software bundle, isn't the Nexus one also an htc phone? -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78057 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
hvb83;567087 Wrote: So even if it stores artwork on the phone itself, there must be some request going to the server prior to showing the artwork? :S Only after a rescan of the library (all artwork) and when you start the app (before artwork shows up at all). After that it doesn't, it reads them fully out of the iPhone's cache. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
pippin;567102 Wrote: Only after a rescan of the library (all artwork) and when you start the app (before artwork shows up at all). After that it doesn't, it reads them fully out of the iPhone's cache. Ok, potato potato, I was talking about iPeng start-up. Sorry about the confusion. :) -- hvb83 hvb83's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39615 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
hvb83;567105 Wrote: Ok, potato potato, I was talking about iPeng start-up. Sorry about the confusion. :) OK, but that has nothing to do with artwork. What iPeng does is check the albums table to see whether the albums have changed. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Let's make the Squeezebox to the ultimate music discovery device!
That's a very good idea... 1. How do you find music in your own library ? Use the search function (when I remember only part of the song title or artist name, because I have a lot of acid Jazz compilations..). Otherwise by Artist or Album. I use album art when selecting what to play... 2. How do you usually find new music you like to get but currently don't have in your library ? Radio, Amazon 3. How would you like to be able to find music in your own library in the future ? - Regular expression - A side page with only Album Art (where we can click on an album art to select...) 4. How would you like to find new music you like to buy/get in the future ? It would be nice to listen to the Amazon sample track on the squeezebox in 1 click... 5. What kind of tagging/management do you do on new music you add to your library to make it easier to find stuff later on ? Possibility to add new tags (ASCII char string) to any tracks (e.g. relax, background, dance, salsa slow, salsa medium,...). Then this tag can be used to build playlist, or to play directly the music (a little bit like the exif tag for the photo) 6. Do you synchronize the data in SBS with some other application to make it easier to find interesting music ? no Thanks. Regards, Michel -- MichelM MichelM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30769 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80910 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Quality loss with ReplayGain?
pski;567038 Wrote: So if this is No Volume Adjustment, what is the effect on playback volume? Like the options says: there is no effect on the volume. In other words: the cd is played as loud as it is recorded. Some CD's (Live at SXSW by Thomas Dolby and the Jazz Mafia Horns) are really loud and drive the amp to protect. Maybe you should use RG then (if the album tracks have the RG tags filled). A lot of modern cd'd have a RG value of -9dB; I have even seen one with -13 dB. Compared with cd's from some decades ago, these cd's will play 3-5 times louder. When these albums are played amidst others and RG is not used, you get the effect you mention. -- Teus de Jong Teus de Jong's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15415 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71138 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android phone + Squeeze Commander + Rhapsody = THE BEST 3-SOME EVER!
pippin;567100 Wrote: That sounds like an issue with the htc software bundle, isn't the Nexus one also an htc phone? The Nexus One is manufactured by HTC, but it has no HTC enhancements (e.g. no SenseUI...). It's probably just the vanilla Android firmware (maybe with additional hardware drivers). But don't ask me why HTC did change (and hence break) the wpa_supplicant binary for the HTC branded phones in the first place... -- flattermann Christian Home of 'SqueezeCommander' (http://www.squeezecommander.com) - The SqueezeBox Remote Control App for Android flattermann's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78057 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] wiki.slimdeivces.com updating fails
No. The wiki updates are working fine now. Thanks so much for your help getting this fixed. I posted the update a couple minutes before I saw mickeyg's post about the problems being resolved. So I edited my original post to reflect my findings. You just happened to see my original update before I edited the post. -- ralphy Ralphy *4*-Classics, *1*-Boom, *11*-Squeezeslaves 'Squeezeslave' (http://code.google.com/p/squeezeslave/) 'donations' (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donationsbusiness=LL5P6365KQEXNlc=CAitem_name=Squeezeslavecurrency_code=USDbn=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donate_SM%2egif%3aNonHosted) always appreciated. ralphy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80868 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Beta: SqueezeConfig - UDAP Config tool for Android
SQUEEZECONFIG IS IN OPEN BETA NOW. Anyone who wants to try it, please register in the tracker at http://www.squeezecommander.com/trac As a registered user, you can download SqueezeConfig from http://www.squeezecommander.com/trac/SqueezeConfig (using your Trac username/password). NOTE: = Because of a bug in the HTC firmware 2.1 (and probably 2.2), SqueezeConfig does not work on HTC devices with these Android versions. See http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=8407 for details. If you have root access to your phone, you can fix this issue on your own by replacing the file /system/bin/wpa_supplicant (see the ticket for details). -- flattermann Christian Home of 'SqueezeCommander' (http://www.squeezecommander.com) - The SqueezeBox Remote Control App for Android flattermann's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76584 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !
When I look at album view in My Music every track of the album is listed as a separate album. So an album with 10 tracks would list 10 tines as the same entry. This also happens when you drill down via the Artist view, too. Has this been reported? Sorry if it has. Didn't go through all 12 pages if the thread. -- bobpenn bobpenn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30445 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is Receiver wifi reception poorer than other SB devices?
Adding an external aeriel has solved the problem; signal strength from 20-25% to 80% and no rebuffering in over 2 hours play. Took less than 30 min to fit and cost me less than 5GBP. Result! Note the small aeriel on the side of in the picture :; MS +---+ |Filename: Modded Receiver2.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10433| +---+ -- MadScientist MadScientist's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80915 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LAN acquiring network address constantly
Many thanks for that. Before I was going to change to a static IP I tried a factory reset on the Squeezebox and everything seemed to work fine again. Cheers Usr33t -- usr33t usr33t's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19961 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80808 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is Receiver wifi reception poorer than other SB devices?
MadScientist - That's really cool! Nicely done. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80915 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rhapsody Playlists missing album artwork
Anyone experience this problem? Or have a solution? -- thunder3dan thunder3dan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37821 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80725 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Let's make the Squeezebox to the ultimate music discovery device!
erland;567068 Wrote: [b]There are also commercial pretty expensive solutions like allmusic.com which from what I've heard mostly focus on B2B integrations besides their web site, unfortunately this will make it harder to have any discussion with them with only community representatives.Erland, there seems to be an overriding assumption here that integrating something like Rovi's allmusic.com metadata is by definition an expensive exercise. I agree they're aimed predominantly at B2B, but there are real examples where they've licensed their metadata in a B2C context also. One such example is 'SoundHound' (http://www.soundhound.com/) whicxh grants you the user a perpetual license to access the underlying metadata via SoundHound for the princely sum of a once off payment of $4.99. For that once off payment you have access to song recognition technology (and it's bloody accurate), artist biography, album cover, discography, top songs, similar artists etc. etc. via the SoundHound app. It's really worth downloading the freebie to check it out - the demo is fully functional for recognition of 5 tracks per month, and it'll give you a good idea of what's on offer. The point I'm trying to make is that Rovi's licensing cannot be that prohibitive if a user can get perpetual access for a once-off payment of five bucks. I'd suggest the addition/ incorporation of allmusic's metadata, playlisting, recommendation, audio recognition technologies (incl fingerprinting) be investigated before writing off the notion. If this functionality were incorporated on an opt-in, paid basis I've no doubt many would opt-in because it would speak directly to so many of the things discussed in this thread. -- audiomuze '*puddletag: A tag editor for Linux (that happens to run on OS X)*' (http://puddletag.sourceforge.net/) audiomuze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33613 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80910 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Let's make the Squeezebox to the ultimate music discovery device!
Let me start off by saying I agree with everything Pat suggested. Now, at the risk of repeating myself... erland;566383 Wrote: So some questions to guide the discussion: 1. How do you find music in your own library ? - Which way to you browse/search ? (which browse or search menus) - Which type of remote/interface do you use ? Different for different situations ? - Do you find music through statistics based browse menus ? (ratings, play counts, history) - Do you find music through smart playlists based on statistics or random selection or other kind of automatic mixes ? - Do you use album art when selecting what to play ? - Do you typically start searching/browsing from an artist, album or track and want to find something related to that ? I browse by artist, genre or style/ mood metadata implemented via your plugins. If I've a web browser in front of me (rarely) I'll sort albums by artist and browse the library by cover. Right clicking and opening a new window whilst hovering over the 0-Z navigation guides enables me to open a full web page filled with album covers and take further browsing from there. Mostly use iPeng, rarely use use IR remote (only if SBS won't behave connect, and very, very rarely do I make use of the web interface. Don't use stat based browse windows Album art is a definite preferred means of browsing through a catalogue. I imagine this would be even more so with something like an iPad I'd love to be able to see related artists and albums in browsing if it were easily available, it would likely influence what I listen to (but limited to what's in my collection). Personally I've no interest in playing stuff off the net - that I can do when sitting in front of my pc if I'm curious about an artist. erland;566383 Wrote: 2. How do you usually find new music you like to get but currently don't have in your library ? - Heard it on the radio ? - Where do you start when searching ? Top charts ? Genres ? Similar artists ? - Do you use some web site when searching or do you browse some music store directly ? - Are you using the computer, your Squeezebox or some other device when searching for new music ? - Do you preview the music before puchasing ? Do you preview it on the real system or cheep laptop speakers or something similar ? - Do you use a subscription based service so you aren't actually buying albums, you just need to find the albums/tracks you are interested in by browsing the service ? - Through reviews ? Any specific online site ? - Through friends ? Some community site ? Radio and friends' recommendations. If I were to search it would be based on simiar artists. I often make refeence to allmusic.com. Searching is always via computer, sometimes my iphone. No interest whatsoever in searching for new music via my Squeezeboxen. Previews (rare) are always via computer or listening to something on the radio or at a friend's. No interest whatsoever in a subscription service - I have an extensive library and MusicIP/ Spicefly for that. Will often check a review, predominantly on allmusic.com, but only when I've become aware of a release and want to get some insights. Amazon's reviews are generally not helpful because they're mostly writtn by fans of the artist/ album in question. erland;566383 Wrote: 3. How would you like to be able to find music in your own library in the future ? - What kind of functionality is missing today related to browsing ? - What kind of functionality is missing today related to searching ? I want to be able to browse by artist, similar artist, genre, mood, style, theme and perhaps even user defined keywords. I generally only use search capability if I'm looking for a specific song and I don't recall what album it's on or which version is on what album. erland;566383 Wrote: 4. How would you like to find new music you like to buy/get in the future ? - What would you like to do through the Squeezebox/SBS or one of it's remotes ? - What would you like to do on some other hardware ? No interest in finding music via my listening device ie SBS/ Squeezeboxen. Still prefer to buy rip CD's. Ditigal music storage remains problematic from a backup perspective because of the volumes involved. Clound storage and high bandwidth may change that but its another discussion altogether. Until then, CDs rule the roost for me. Would like ot be able to explore every nook and cranny of my music collection based on a proper database that has persistence. Take allmusic.com and localise it for my personal collection and you get the idea of what I'l love to be able to do in terms of navigating by remote. Other hardware is irrelevant to me. There's storage, a server and a playback device. Network attached storage and the playback device already fulfil their roles well. SBS doesn't. erland;566383 Wrote: 5. What kind of tagging/management do you do on new music you add to your library to
Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !
I have a squeeze box duet. downloaded squeeze pad. I tried connecting to my server and it says bad URL. 192.168.1.100:9000 Tried connecting to squeeze box and bad URL. 192.168.1.151:9000 I even turned off the firewall and still nothing. I tried to connect to the Internet server 64.151.159.227:9000 and it times out. Can somebody help me get this going. Thanks -- NNN NNN's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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NNN;567178 Wrote: I tried connecting to my server and it says bad URL. 192.168.1.100:9000 Can you connect to your server's web interface from Safari on the iPad? -- dem Dave Squeezeboxes: 3 (a.k.a. Classic), Duet, Boom dem's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2504 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Let's make the Squeezebox to the ultimate music discovery device!
audiomuze;567175 Wrote: Let me start off by saying I agree with everything Pat suggested. I believe that it can be implemented fairly easily with only one additional field in the sound/track table, and one in the album table. This field is just a big space for text, that we use to store the unique fingerprint of the song/track/album. Perhaps we would want to have the same field in artist/group/etc. But the key design change of SBS is that they have to stop nuking the DB every time they do a scan. Its critical that the DB be considered important. The rest of the recommendation engine can be run out of either separate tables or a separate schema of tables. -- pfarrell Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html pfarrell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=200 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80910 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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1. How do you find music in your own library ? - I buy/acquire new music quite often and thus use New Music as the most common entry. Sometimes this leads me to want to listen to other albums by the same artist for which I either drill down the menus with the remote or use iPeng. - Otherwise I often go for a specific artist or genre via the remote or iPeng. At times I use the browse mode as a sort of random function picking a letter and flicking through the artists that hit. - All music are tagged before it enters the DB and I'm especially picky about genres where I've defined a set of genres that I use. - I never search for music and very seldom browse for albums/tracks; mainly artists and genres. - I also use custom-made Dynamic Playlists when I'm in the mood to hear certain types of music (selection of genres), specific years or specific ratings. The reason for using Dynamic Playlists is that I have a number of filters for all of my playlists (above a certain rating, specific time limits, etc.). - I never do manual playlists as I mainly listens to full albums (or use Dynamic Playlists). - I do tag all my music, including album art, but have never used album art to select music. Possibly because I mainly use IR remote and iPeng to control SBS. I do not think I would ever use a cover flow functionality myself, but could see the point if guests were to flick through my collection. 2. How do you usually find new music you like to get but currently don't have in your library ? - I subscribe to a few music magazines (Gaffa, Soundvenue) and use their corresponding web sites as well. Then I have a number of web sites that I browse regurlarly (Pitchfork, Resident Advisor, Metacritic, etc.) and then I subscribe to a few newsletters from music stores (Boomkat, Bleep) and lastly I subscribe to eMusic. Some music I buy because it's a certain artist, most because it was somehow recommended by one of my 'trusted advisors' and some because of random browsing looking for similar artists or similar. - Whenever I come across something interesting I usually post a note to my Evernote account. Approx. once a month I review the notes and decide which to get from eMusic, buy from a store, etc. As part of the review process I sometimes 'screen' the music on my laptop, either to prioritize or to see if I like the music at all. - I only buy albums or ep's, never single tracks and rarely buy albums because I've heard a track on the radio or seen it on the charts. 3. How would you like to be able to find music in your own library in the future ? 4. How would you like to find new music you like to buy/get in the future ? - Basically I'm quite happy with the current options when it comes to finding specific artists, albums, etc. - Even though my music collection is not as big as some of the other contributors to this thread (1250 albums; 15000 tracks) there is still a lot of music 'hiding' in there that I never get to hear. I would like to be able to find similar artists and select music suited to a certain 'moods' - and I do not want it to be based on myself doing a lot of tagging. - If possible it would be cool if such a playlist could incorporate both my own music and tracks I do not own, e.g. provided via some of the internet services. It should be optional whether I just wanted my own music, a mix or solely new music on the playlist. - When it comes to buying new music a nice feature might be an ability to 'flag' interesting stuff (to my Evernote account ...), although my own listening habits are probably not suited for this as I do not necessarily have a remote, iPhone or computer next to me when listening. I can't imagine I would ever want to buy music via SB. I would prefer it as a separate process. 5. What kind of tagging/management do you do on new music you add to your library to make it easier to find stuff later on ? - All music about to enter the DB is tagged/checked with mp3tag. I always modify the genre tag and check the other (standard) tags; I never add tags of my own. In my mind tagging is essential to managing your music collection. Likewise my folder structure is also very structured, possibly because I'm a bit old-school, but also because it would otherwise be hell to tag/re-tag with a tool like mp3tag. - I rate all my music manually and thus consider TrackStat my most crucial plugin. I use ratings as filter in my Dynamic Playlists and just likes the process of 'rating' my music. 6. Do you synchronize the data in SBS with some other application to make it easier to find interesting music ? - I only 'synchronize' with last.fm and this only to have the total count and the charts. I don't use any of the other features on last.fm currently. I used to use the feature of playing last.fm stations on SB, but found the qualiy dismal at times and preferred to find new music via other sources. -- mschr mschr's Profile:
Re: [slim] Let's make the Squeezebox to the ultimate music discovery device!
audiomuze;567167 Wrote:
SoundHound app. It's really worth downloading the freebie to check it
out - the demo is fully functional for recognition of 5 tracks per
month, and it'll give you a good idea of what's on offer.
I already have the payed version on the iPad and IPhone and like it and
I really want access to the AMG data.
The difference of SBS compared to SoundHound is that SBS have a GPL
license which I suspect can make this more complicated, there is a
reason Logitech handles all subscription based services through MySB
instead of only using GPL based SBS.
audiomuze;567167 Wrote:
The point I'm trying to make is that Rovi's licensing cannot be that
prohibitive if a user can get perpetual access for a once-off payment
of five bucks. At the very least its worth formally investigating.
I suspect it's the app that gets access, not user. The SoundHound app
probably sells pretty good so the company behind it might have done a
one time investment plus having some subscription based agreement.
However, don't worry it's on the list, it's just that I've talked to
other people who have tried so I'm not too optimistic unless someone
comes forward with a lot of money, but it's definitely something that
is worth investigating. If there is anyone with experience of these
kind of commercial discussions or want to help, please send me a PM or
mail.
Anyway, let's handle future discussions regarding possible AMG
licensing through PM or mail or other private channels.
--
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Re: [slim] Android
Thanks guys, seems just what i need, is it poss to get the apk file, i know i have to pay but just in case i swap my phone. Dont really want to pay twice -- stevecross stevecross's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29599 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80973 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !
NNN;567178 Wrote: I tried connecting to my server and it says bad URL. Hhmm - for me it always said 'cannot connect to host' when I simulated wrong urls. Anyway: Have a look at this post: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=565677postcount=101 where you can find all information needed to find the correct server settings. In SqueezePad you should configure it like this: http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:9000 (though the 'http://' and ':9000' part should be automatically added if you forget them). Also try to connect to the Web-UI directly from your iPad as dem said. This makes sure you can correctly connect to your home-network. Does your iPad have 3G ? Than make also sure, that you use WLAN instead when at home. Hope that we get it running for you soon ! Tell us how you get along ... -- bluegaspode Big Screen for great Boxes available now at your AppStore: *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/squeezepad/id380003002) *! Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? = why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? = why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) Setup: 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 1xSB-Radio Server (7.5.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android
stevecross;567196 Wrote: Thanks guys, seems just what i need, is it poss to get the apk file, i know i have to pay but just in case i swap my phone. Dont really want to pay twice If you buy it on the Android Market, the license is bound to your Google Checkout account, i.e. as long as you use the same account on your new phone, you can re-download all paid apps (including SqueezeCommander) for free. -- flattermann Christian Home of 'SqueezeCommander' (http://www.squeezecommander.com) - The SqueezeBox Remote Control App for Android flattermann's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80973 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android
any application you bought is tied to your google account. You can redownload it any time on any new phone. -- fragfutter sent from a computer using a keyboard fragfutter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35184 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80973 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] OpenFrame remote for SB?
Did anybody see these announcements from March? I just stumbled upon them by accident. http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/25/openpeaks-opentablet-7-hands-on-moorestown-has-found-a-friend/ http://nexus404.com/Blog/2010/03/24/opentablet-openpeak-announced-opentablet-coming-late-2010/ A bit interesting I thought. -- MusicManiac MusicManiac's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64373 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Squeezebox classic HELP!!
I have the classic and it suits fine with Itunes.. The only thing is this: When i play a number using the classic, the played song is not noted in Itunes. Pretty uncomfortable because frequently use my most played genre on the classic / and or Ituns... Could anyone help?? txs -- Will Dawn Will Dawn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80984 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox classic HELP!!
Hi Will, welcome to the forums. There is an add-on plugin that you can use that will update the stats in iTunes. Let me see if I can scare up a link to the download page for plugins... -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80984 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Let's make the Squeezebox to the ultimate music discovery device!
erland;566383 Wrote: It's getting painfully clear to me that it's not the primary focus area for Logitech, at least not during the last year or two. I don't think there's been any new functionality for browsing/playing music from your own library in a hell of a long time - perhaps the last feature added was Random Play (which is pretty much useless if you want exclude some genres anyway). I should say that the Logitech developers are doing a great job with the amount of resources they have access to, so this isn't any critique on them. Absolutely - work has been done on other areas, supporting new hardware, etc. However, if we want something to happen it feels we need to take this into our own hands. Yes; I feel that killer SBS features are likely to come from third-party developers/plugins only. 1. How do you find music in your own library ? If I know what I want to play, I either browse by artist, or Search. If I don't know what to play, I start to play random music through Dynamic Playlists, so I can tailor the music to be played. Most of the time, this is using a plugin that I've developed (heavily based on the good work done with SugarCube), which produces mixes via MusicIP. I tailor MusicIP filters to play not rated music, or music not recently played. Thus I don't generally end up listening to the same music, and it encourages me to rate my library. - Which way to you browse/search ? (which browse or search menus) I tend to use Browse Genres depending on mood (eg. late at night, I browse ambient music only). I tend to Browse New Artists (Custom Browse menu) to find something that I've recently added. I tend to use Browse Years, but only to find something that I've ripped for this year/last year. - Which type of remote/interface do you use ? Different for different situations ? Mainly SB3 or Transporter IR Remote. It's the fastest, less irritating method. When I am at my PC, I use WebUI for browsing/playing music, and occasionally SB Touch for controlling playback (pause/resume, power off, volume control) of a Boom player in the same room. - Do you find music through statistics based browse menus ? (ratings, play counts, history) Yes, but I am still in a ripping/rating phase with my library, so I tend to find unrated/new music, unless I'm in the mood for something I really like (eg. rated 4-5) - I never search for average or worse music, but those rating are used to prevent playback during random play. I play lower rated music only if I select to play a full album (eg. don't skip the average tracks). Do you use album art when selecting what to play ? No. Artwork only used for display during playback. Do you typically start searching/browsing from an artist, album or track and want to find something related to that ? I often browse to something else based on a track that is currently playing. Eg. play random tracks, then when something is playing that takes my attention, I'll browse to music related to it (eg. play the whole album, or play another album by the same artist). 2. How do you usually find new music you like to get but currently don't have in your library ? I discover new music via podcasts (through iTunes-iPod Nano playback), Last.fm radio, rss newsfeeds from blog sites. I don't often listen to normal radio stations. I try out music from artists I'm not familiar with via Spotify, MySpace, last.fm. - Are you using the computer, your Squeezebox or some other device when searching for new music ? iPod Nano at work (podcasts) or my PC for Spotify, Last.fm or MySpace. Occasionally use SBS for Last.fm (search similar artists, etc). Through reviews ? Any specific online site ? For some quite specific music tastes, eg. for Electronic Music/Ambient music, I use Electro-ambient Space (http://www.electroambientspace.com/). 3. How would you like to be able to find music in your own library in the future ? - What kind of functionality is missing today related to browsing ? - What kind of functionality is missing today related to searching ? Search for similar music to current selection. eg. use MusicIP to find music that is like a selected artist/album/song. For example, I like to play albums. I may play random songs, until something I like plays, and then play that album. I'd like to pick an album, and browse music that is similar to this, then play a specific album from the list. 5. What kind of tagging/management do you do on new music you add to your library to make it easier to find stuff later on ? I add some custom tags: original artist, tags related to live music, such as the specific performance date, venue, location. I'd like some additional tagging, eg. to identify different mixes of songs, albums. i.e. where I have different versions of the same music, eg. an original album and a remastered album, or bonus tracks on an album. I'd like to see better handling of singles and compilations when browsing material for an
Re: [slim] Let's make the Squeezebox to the ultimate music discovery device!
This is a good idea. I agree that the innovations in this area have been lacking as of late. Here are my responses: 1) As with my iPod, I navigate the browse menu via genre-artist-album. This mimics the way I would browse my CD/LP collection back in the day. I use either the Controller or the SB Touch. I also use the New Music menu a lot to quickly get to albums I've recently added to my library. I have used Moose in the past which I find very easy to use in this situation. The only mixing I generally use is MusicIP. Occasionally I'll add a few artists and shuffle those together. 2) For new music, I use either Pandora or Slacker. Once I come upon an artist new to me, I'll consult their available catalog from Amazon and look the band up in WikiPedia. I'll read Amazon reviews on different albums. 3) I like the idea of smart playlists that could be based on listening stats. 4) Being able to find new music through the Squeezebox would be best - why introduce another piece of hardware? 5) I keep the tags basic (artist/genre/year/album/track number/track title). I also keep my genres pretty basic, for instance I do not have my jazz genre broken down into bop, hard bop, swing, fusion, etc. One day I might change that, but for now it seems like too much of a project. I like the folder structure to reflect the tag data. When I update my tags, I also update the location using a tool like Media Monkey. 6) I used to use the iTunes plugin to update and maintain stats, but it became too cumbersome once I moved to a Linux server. I find that I'll look at my stats on Last.fm occasionally to see what I've been listening to a lot lately. I'm a big fan of MusicIP and turn to it when I'm not in the mood or don't have the time to choose music but have a vague idea of what I want to listen to. I'd love to see improvement in that area, even if it means moving to another service. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80910 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I may be kind of special in that while I love to see cover art, have tagged all my albums correctly to show it and also want to see it while browsing I don't like to SELECT music based on the cover since I find that rather confusing (I often don't recognize music based on the cover). CoverFlow is something I tend to show off but never ever use. See - we do have something in common after all! ;-) ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SBS 7.5.1 - Is it really this broken?
I'm using a Squeezebox Classic 3, Windows 7 64 bit, and Firefox 3.6.8. I installed SBS 7.5.1 as well as firmware version 130 in my SB3 and now a whole range of issues have appeared. Here's a list: Web Interface Issues 1. When using the default web interface screen it does not show the SB3 player in the upper right as a possible selection. It is however, recognized in multiple places in Setup. 2. The Play and + buttons work on the left Artists screen when selecting both the entire album or individual tracks but on the right screen the selections are not displayed. 3. The play, pause, forward, back, repeat, and shuffle buttons do not work. 4. None of the volume control buttons work. 5. The on/off button does not work. 6. Artwork is not displayed. 7. Clear and save playlist buttons are completely missing. Setup 1. Play other songs in album does not work when selecting songs with the web interface. Is this version really that broken? Or could it be updates to the OS that are causing the problems? Thanks for your comments and suggestions! -- Skipperrik Skipperrik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5208 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80985 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Let's make the Squeezebox to the ultimate music discovery device!
Philip Meyer;567244 Wrote: I may be kind of special in that while I love to see cover art, have tagged all my albums correctly to show it and also want to see it while browsing I don't like to SELECT music based on the cover since I find that rather confusing (I often don't recognize music based on the cover). CoverFlow is something I tend to show off but never ever use. See - we do have something in common after all! ;-) Unbelievable ;) Does this mean I'm getting professional in my music selection habits? -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80910 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SBS 7.5.1 - Is it really this broken?
Did you clear the browser cache ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe' Primare and Dynadio speakers, Contour 4 Contour Center, and Contour 1.3SE for the rear ch. Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80985 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SBS 7.5.1 - Is it really this broken?
Try another browser. Then to get it working in Firefox, maybe clear Firefox's cache, or disable Firefox addons until it works once again. -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80985 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SBS 7.5.1 - Is it really this broken?
I've cleared the cache in Firefox, disabled all the plug-ins and got nowhere. I did however use IE to open Squeezebox Server and things seem to be working fine there. It's definitely a Firefox issue but I don't have a clue what the fix is. Thanks for your comments. -- Skipperrik Skipperrik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5208 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80985 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SBS 7.5.1 - Is it really this broken?
Just on the off-chance that the cache wasn't cleared completely in Firefox, try loading the main page of the web skin, then use Ctrl-F5 to reload it from freshly retrieved files. -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80985 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SBS 7.5.1 - Is it really this broken?
Just tried using control + F5 and got no changes. Thanks. -- Skipperrik Skipperrik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5208 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80985 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SBS 7.5.1 - Is it really this broken?
If you can't solve it, switch to Chrome. ;) Seriously, I switched after years of being a diehard Firefox user and I doubt that I'll ever look back. Every once in a blue moon I'll have to use Firefox for a site that doesn't work right in Chrome, and it now feels like bloated crapware worthy of Microsoft. -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80985 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SBS 7.5.1 - Is it really this broken?
Switching to Chrome was actually a great suggestion. It helped me solve the problem with Firefox. I did a fresh installation of Chrome. No cache, no cookies, right out of the box. When I set it up I checked Block sites from setting any data to eliminate sites from setting cookies. I entered the url address for Squeezebox Server and got the SAME problems that existed in Firefox. Just for the heck of it, I changed the data setting to Ask me when a site wants to set data. I refreshed the page and sure enough, SBS wanted to set a cookie. After allowing it, the web interface worked perfectly. I then went back to Firefox and allowed SBS to set cookies. Now all of the functions work fine in Firefox. Who would have thought that cookies were the cause? Thanks for your suggestions guys. They were a big help in working through the problem. -- Skipperrik Skipperrik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5208 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80985 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [Announce] iPeng 1.2.5 now on the App Store
I must add the album art resolution is a bit underwhelming on the iPad in 2x. Way to much distortion. -- gellie gellie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80940 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [Announce] iPeng 1.2.5 now on the App Store
gellie;567277 Wrote: I must add the album art resolution is a bit underwhelming on the iPad in 2x. Way to much distortion. iPeng isn't an iPad app. iPad is getting it's own application. -- Jeff Flowerday Jeff Flowerday's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80940 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [Announce] iPeng 1.2.5 now on the App Store
gellie;567277 Wrote: I must add the album art resolution is a bit underwhelming on the iPad in 2x. Way to much distortion. Are you talking thumbs? That's a bug and will be fixed in the update I'm going to submit, well, in a few minutes, Or are you talking about the big cover on NowPlaying? THIS is purely a lack on the side of your artwork, iPeng displays that with full resolution on iPad. So if your artwork is 300x300, sorry, but there's nothing iPeng can do about that :D @Jeff: iPeng is not an iPad app but images are shown with full resolution on iPad if you use them correctly in an iPhone app. While this is not always applicable it should work for cover art in iPeng but I handled it the wrong way for the thumbs (which works on iPhone 4 but not on iPad). -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80940 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [Announce] iPeng 1.2.5 now on the App Store
Daverz;567034 Wrote: Filed as 'Ticket #243' (https://trac.penguinlovesmusic.de/trac/ipengnat/ticket/243#preview). It turns out that this actually INTENTIONAL behavior of CustomBrowse. This is a plugin-generated menu and it doesn't specify a switch to NowPlaying. I remember Erland did this on purpose for some reason back in those days... Maybe it can be changed in the menu definition? -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80940 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Let's make the Squeezebox to the ultimate music discovery device!
pfarrell;567182 Wrote:
I believe that it can be implemented fairly easily with only one
additional field in the sound/track table, and one in the album table.
This field is just a big space for text, that we use to store the
unique fingerprint of the song/track/album. Perhaps we would want to
have the same field in artist/group/etc.
But the key design change of SBS is that they have to stop nuking the
DB every time they do a scan. Its critical that the DB be considered
important.
The rest of the recommendation engine can be run out of either separate
tables or a separate schema of tables.
I've started a separate thread to try to take the database information
part one step further, so anyone that feels like the SBS database needs
to be enhanced to handle more information (from tags or from a locally
managed database that survives rescans) please have a look in the
following thread:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80991
pfarrell:
Since it sounds like you have already analyzed your needs regarding
this, I'm very interested that you participate in the above linked
thread. The same is also true for other people focused at classical or
jazz music as my feeling is that the missing information is mostly
related to those music categories.
--
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Re: [slim] Android
Many thanks for that info, i shall do that today after work and have a play. steve -- stevecross stevecross's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29599 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80973 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
