Re: [slim] Using a 7 tablet and Squeeze Commander
flattermann;668200 Wrote: Good to hear that! Could you please post a link to the Tablet on Amazon? Maybe other users are interested as well... Sure, Flatterman; it's http://www.amazon.co.uk/NATPC-M009S-Google-Android-Tablet/dp/B004RAN7VI/ref=pd_cp_computers_4 -- elision elision's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47490 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91224 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Question about organising Rock/Pop music and Classical music in the same collection
Hi, Looking at getting some Squeezebox products, already have a NAS and am making do with an Xbox and Twonky at the moment. My question is, is there a nice tidy solution to organise popular music and classical music - when browsing my music library I don't really want these two types mixed in together. -- sponsford sponsford's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51137 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91459 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How I fixed my SB3 when it kept freezing /Rebooting
jojopuppyfish;668387 Wrote: I've thrown up my hands for now. I would like to know if version 6.5 is compatible with my squeezebox radio. I did install 6.5 and sb3 was working but did not recognize my squeezebox radio. And other plugins I liked didn't work with 6.5 either. I know its not the sb3. Its something with the 7.0+ software. Radio requires SBS 7.4 My SB3 is working fine on LMS 7.7, WinXP, plays AAC without issues or reboots. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91095 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How I fixed my SB3 when it kept freezing /Rebooting
jojopuppyfish;668059 Wrote: I am on the most recent version 7.7 The streams I am having trouble with are mp3. MP3 streams will go direct from station to SB3 player - the SBS does not get involved - so if you are getting freezing of audio - it is a network issue or a player issue. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91095 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] cannot find wininet.dll
During the LMS 7.7.1 beta installation received the message cannot find wininet.dll ...reinstall program also. But, the control box opened and diagnosing indicated that all systems were OK. The LMS seems to be working fine also. Should I disregard the message or do a reinstall? ( I'm using the new MOG and I like it very much so far.) Thanks. -- Ikabob Ikabob Squeezebox Touch w/SBS; SAE Amplifier;Marantz Pre-amp;ESS Heil Speakers(main listening speakers plus various additional speakers). Multiple players: SqueezeBooms,SqueezeRadios; SB3; Services:Slacker;Sky.com; Spotify (Triode's Spotify plugin) Sirius.com; Ipeng remote controller. Ikabob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32088 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91378 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] cannot find wininet.dll
Ikabob;668455 Wrote: During the LMS 7.7.1 beta installation I received the message cannot find wininet.dll ...reinstall program also. But, the control box opened and diagnostics indicated that all systems were OK. The LMS seems to be working fine also. Should I disregard the message or do a reinstall? ( I'm using the new MOG and I like it very much so far.) Thanks. Actually this happened on my second computer as well. But the message showed only once, and everything works fine, including spotify. So I don't see a need to install again. -- Mart1 Mart1 --- duet+Beomaster 900, duet + active speakers, duet + Firestone dac + Yamaha RX-V1067, duet+NAD, SBS on Lenovo mini laptop, ipeng on ipad Mart1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34654 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91378 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Question about organising Rock/Pop music and Classical music in the same collection
sponsford;668451 Wrote: Hi, Looking at getting some Squeezebox products, already have a NAS and am making do with an Xbox and Twonky at the moment. My question is, is there a nice tidy solution to organise popular music and classical music - when browsing my music library I don't really want these two types mixed in together. Erland's multiple library plugin. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.0 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.6 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91459 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Ominous lack of stock in UK
I have been thinking of buying a Squeezebox Radio and was looking at a number of retail and on-line sites for deals. What is clear is that there is almost no stock in any shops and virtually none on-line. There are none at Dabs, Currys, Richer Sounds or Superfi (my usual choice of UK discount outlets). Amazon is not selling any direct and only have 3 available from a third party seller. The same applies to the Touch. However, you can still get them direct from the Logitech web site (and a few from the usual ramshackle collection of small on-line traders). The optimistic view would be that they are about to release upgraded replacements. The pessimistic view would be that they are about to kill off the Squeezebox line of products altogether. I fear the latter is the most likely scenario. It is very unusual for stock of one generation of a product to be allowed to be sold out completely before the next generation is released. I also think it is ominous that they have renamed Squeezebox Server Logitech Media Server - possibly in preparation for killing off the name? Any views? -- TheLastMan Matt http://www.last.fm/user/MJL-UK *SqueezeBoxes:* SB Duet (Controller + two receivers) *Server:* Synology DS107+ NAS (with firmware 2.3-1157) running Squeezebox Server 7.5.1 on Synology Package Manager *Network:* Netgear DG834GT ADSL modem/router, 2 x Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 as access points *Livingroom:* Receiver into Naim 42/110 amp, BW CM2 speakers *Kitchen:* Receiver into Denon DM37 mini-system, BW 686 speakers *Study:* Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap/Headline. TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91460 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Question about organising Rock/Pop music and Classical music in the same collection
garym;668462 Wrote: Erland's multiple library plugin. If I have one NAS and one instance of Squeezebox server can I still have multiple librarys sharing files from the same NAS? -- sponsford sponsford's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51137 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91459 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Question about organising Rock/Pop music and Classical music in the same collection
Yes -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.0 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.6 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91459 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ominous lack of stock in UK
..while they're still around. I recall seeing a decent display of radios and Touch's in my one trip to the Southampton store about a month ago.. Chris -- cblock cblock's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12826 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91460 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ominous lack of stock in UK
And online: http://www.bestbuy.co.uk/product/1000111888/logitech-squeezebox-radio-wireless-audio-system.aspx -- castalla 1 Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers - 2 duff ears - purrfekt! castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91460 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] MOG for Squeezebox Announced
Still gathering details. Blog post here: http://blog.logitech.com/2011/11/08/new-music-service-sets-squeezebox-to-match-your-moods Blog down at the moment... ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ominous lack of stock in UK
TheLastMan;668463 Wrote: Any views? probably means nothing. this topic comes up about once or twice a year from the beginning of the SB line. Of course, eventually, it will be true, as eventually virtually all products come to EOL. ;-) -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.0 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.6 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91460 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MOG for Squeezebox Announced
It's in the App Gallery: http://www.mysqueezebox.com/appgallery On 11/8/11 10:09 AM, Ron Thigpen wrote: Still gathering details. Blog post here: http://blog.logitech.com/2011/11/08/new-music-service-sets-squeezebox-to-match-your-moods Blog down at the moment... ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Headless Squeezebox Player
New to the forum, so sorry for the silly question (perhaps), but I can't for the life of me find a headless squeezebox player to hookup to self powered speakers. I love the Squeezebox Touch, but it doesn't seem quite as practical as a headless unit with the same internal DAC which would allow me to use my android phone as the interface from the comfort of the couch/kitchen, etc... Sonos has this with the SP90 and SP120, so why wouldn't Logitech create something similar? Is there a DIY WIFI player out there that uses the Squeezeplayer software? Something akin to the pogoplug but with a audiophile DAC... Thanks, Steve -- Carrick1973 Carrick1973's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51146 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Headless Squeezebox Player
Carrick1973;668502 Wrote: New to the forum, so sorry for the silly question (perhaps), but I can't for the life of me find a headless squeezebox player to hookup to self powered speakers. I love the Squeezebox Touch, but it doesn't seem quite as practical as a headless unit with the same internal DAC which would allow me to use my android phone as the interface from the comfort of the couch/kitchen, etc... Sonos has this with the SP90 and SP120, so why wouldn't Logitech create something similar? Is there a DIY WIFI player out there that uses the Squeezeplayer software? Something akin to the pogoplug but with a audiophile DAC... Thanks, Steve by headless player, you mean without a screen? This was the now discontinued SB duet receiver. Then again, remove the screws holding on the TOUCH stand, use soundcheck's TT3.0 to turn off the screen display, lay the thing on its face, and you have something about the size of the duet receiver (but that plays aac files, 24/96 files, and has a better DAC. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.0 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.6 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Headless Squeezebox Player
Maybe I'm not understanding your question but that is exactly what a SqueezeBox Touch is, a headless music player which can be controlled from an iPhone or Android. Or it can be controlled by: - it's IR remote - it's own touch screen - web UI (SBS/LMS or MySB.com) - a software player like SoftSqueeze or SqueezePlay - another SB player (Touch or Radio) - SB Controller (may as well use a smart phone) Touch can connect to any of three servers to function: - itself via USB or SD, with limited functionality - SBS/LMS server running on a PC or Mac or NAS - MySB.com online for Internet Radio, subscription services, podcasts (but no local music) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Headless Squeezebox Player
garym;668504 Wrote: by headless player, you mean without a screen? This was the now discontinued SB duet receiver. Then again, remove the screws holding on the TOUCH stand, use soundcheck's TT3.0 to turn off the screen display, lay the thing on its face, and you have something about the size of the duet receiver (but that plays aac files, 24/96 files, and has a better DAC. Yes, I mean headless in terms of no screen like the duet. Take the screen away, but keep the internal audio components the same and sell it for 100 bucks and they'd fly off the shelves. I'm looking to minimize the cost outlay for a multi-room setup, and it doesn't make sense to go with multiple squeezebox touches when I've got an android phone in my pocket that can interface with all of them from anywhere in my house. The touchscreen is probably the most expensive part of the touch as well. -- Carrick1973 Carrick1973's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51146 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Headless Squeezebox Player
Carrick1973;668508 Wrote: The touchscreen is probably the most expensive part of the touch as well. actually, it's not we're told. p.s. I have a duet receiver (which I no longer use). My recall is that these caused untold problems in setup, etc. as the user had only a few blinking lights to inform him/her of what was going on. So logitech probably decided this was too much of a headache. That said, there have been many people who prefer the no screen approach like yourself and have asked for a new duet receiver. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.0 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.6 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Headless Squeezebox Player
Carrick1973;668502 Wrote: New to the forum, so sorry for the silly question (perhaps), but I can't for the life of me find a headless squeezebox player to hookup to self powered speakers. I love the Squeezebox Touch, but it doesn't seem quite as practical as a headless unit with the same internal DAC which would allow me to use my android phone as the interface from the comfort of the couch/kitchen, etc... Sonos has this with the SP90 and SP120, so why wouldn't Logitech create something similar? The only headless Squeezebox manufactured was the Receiver half of the Duet, which is no longer made. How can a Touch be not as practical as a Receiver? It can be controlled in exactly the same ways in additional to the Touch screen and the IR input. You're not forced to use either, but the touch screen is a godsend for setup and configuration compared to the way the Duet was setup. And using the infrared remote can be much handier than any remote app for quickly adjusting the volume or skipping a song. If you find the screen too bright or distracting you can turn all of the screensavers (off, stopped, playing) to 'Screen off'. You can sometimes find older Squeezeboxes for sale used, but the Touch is considered by almost everyone to have superior sound quality over all of the older Squeezeboxes except the Transporter. If you can find a Receiver, it will need to be set up either using the Controller or by some gyrations using a software program found in these forums. One other approach to a headless unit might be to setup a small PC and run SqueezePlay. Since it's a 'software' player it has the disadvantage, though, of not being fully synchable with hardware Squeezebox players. -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Headless Squeezebox Player
Audiophile for $100? That would indeed be nice. ;) You might find some used Duet Receivers for close to that, but you won't get the audio quality of the Touch in a Receiver. Then there is the setup issues absent a screen. I'm not in the electronics biz but I'd bet the Touch's screen represents no more than 10% of the Touch's production costs, but just a wild guess. Best I can suggest is wait for Touch to go on sale and just ignore the screen, or turn it off as Gary suggests. That is, if you want the audio quality of the Touch. Maybe a Roku ($49 to $99) with a smartphone App will suit your needs? -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Headless Squeezebox Player
My purpose is to keep costs down for a whole house/multi-zone setup. I would think that they could create a headless hockey puck sized box that could hookup to powered speakers. The interface would be either through a PC via wifi or through an app loaded onto an android/IOS device. Setup/Configuration/Song Selection could all be performed from said device. I can certainly see the importance of having the Squeezebox touch, and will probably buy several (kitchen and bedroom come to mind), but for the living room, it seems that a headless unit would make more sense since the audio equipment is inside a cabinet and the user is usually sitting on the couch. Sonos certainly saw the need for these devices, which is why the created the SP90 and SP120. The reason I want a Logitech device instead of a Sonos device though is the quality of the sound components that they use. -- Carrick1973 Carrick1973's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51146 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Headless Squeezebox Player
toby10;668516 Wrote: Audiophile for $100? That would indeed be nice. ;) Well, perhaps 150 or 200 bucks, but regardless, remove the touch screen and the cost and size would be reduced. The DAC, from what I've read is extremely good, which is my purpose in getting a logitech branded device... -- Carrick1973 Carrick1973's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51146 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Headless Squeezebox Player
Recently bought an extra touch new from Logitech for $209 I think. A bargain. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.0 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.6 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Headless Squeezebox Player
Carrick1973;668518 Wrote: My purpose is to keep costs down for a whole house/multi-zone setup. I would think that they could create a headless hockey puck sized box that could hookup to powered speakers. The interface would be either through a PC via wifi or through an app loaded onto an android/IOS device. Setup/Configuration/Song Selection could all be performed from said device. That was the Receiver/Controller, aka Duet. Unfortunately, due to the cost of the Controller, the combo was priced at $400 vs. $300 for the Squeezebox3 being produced at the time. They then sold add-on Receivers for $150. The headless nature of the Receiver caused no end of problems during setup, because there was little usable feedback for troubleshooting problems. Because of that and because Logitech has largely abandoned new development of the Squeezebox product line, I wouldn't expect to see a replacement for the Duet or the Receiver. In any case, eliminating the screen from the Touch wouldn't subtract a lot from the retail price. Those little 4.3 touch screens are being produced by the millions and are fairly inexpensive. -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Headless Squeezebox Player
garym;668525 Wrote: Recently bought an extra touch new from Logitech for $209 I think. A bargain. Unfortunately, a 1 week promo only. It's back to $299. -- jfo jfo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1135 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Headless Squeezebox Player
Carrick1973;668502 Wrote: I love the Squeezebox Touch, but it doesn't seem quite as practical as a headless unit with the same internal DAC Based on the experience from the SB Receiver, the Touch is infinitely more practical than a headless unit, especially during installation. I wouldn't go as far as saying that the cost of the display is negligible, but the cost of the display is likely to be so low that it's not much point for Logitch in having a slightly cheaper but far less flexible product in the lineup. I've never understood why some people are so bothered by having a function on their device that thay rarely use, have a look at the appliances and gadgets in your home, I bet that for most of them there are some features that you've never used. -- alfista alfista's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ominous lack of stock in UK
TheLastMan;668463 Wrote:
Any views?
No reason to worry in advance.
If I compare it with Apple, it's usually hard to get the latest version
of a certain Apple hardware product at least once a year, the reason is
either:
1. They are about to release a new hardware version.
or
2. They are selling more than expected and haven't been able to
manufacture enough units yet.
Let's stop predicting the death of the Squeezebox.
Sure, you might be correct, but as already mentioned this has
historically happened before several times and so far it hasn't meant
that the Squeezebox is about to die.
Threads like this always make me wonder if I should go and get a few
extra Squeezeboxes so I have some spare parts if Logitech actually
would decide to stop manufacture this excellent hardware.
--
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Re: [slim] Ominous lack of stock in UK
erland;668539 Wrote: Threads like this always make me wonder if I should go and get a few extra Squeezeboxes so I have some spare parts if Logitech actually would decide to stop manufacture this excellent hardware. that's why I have two TOUCH units still in the box. I like these things so much that I want to have backups if/when one of my other units crap out. And I spend less on this sort of hardware than my CD buying habit, so it's cheap insurance! -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.0 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.6 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91460 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Headless Squeezebox Player
jfo;668528 Wrote: Unfortunately, a 1 week promo only. It's back to $299. Yikes - that's a pretty sweet deal. I don't believe that a company like Logitech couldn't come up with an interface application that would work off of Android/iOS for setup/configuration of a headless unit. Apple certainly has with the Apple TV - well designed and powerful in a small unit that is 99 bucks. They get it. Heck, the Lepai T-amp is only 15 bucks and it's pretty good for an amplifier. With upgraded caps, it does very well in fact. Logitech should be able to come up with something similar to the Pogoplug, with a t-amp (or not), DAC and wifi chip in it for somewhere between 100 and 150 bucks. The Roku HD boxes are less than 80 bucks and they push HD video wirelessly. -- Carrick1973 Carrick1973's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51146 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Headless Squeezebox Player
jfo;668528 Wrote: Unfortunately, a 1 week promo only. It's back to $299. keep your eyes out as they often do special deals or offer % off coupons. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.0 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.6 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Headless Squeezebox Player
Carrick1973;668555 Wrote: .. I don't believe that a company like Logitech couldn't come up with an interface application that would work off of Android/iOS for setup/configuration of a headless unit. Logitech should be able to come up with something similar to the Pogoplug, with a t-amp (or not), DAC and wifi chip in it for somewhere between 100 and 150 bucks. The Roku HD boxes are less than 80 bucks and they push HD video wirelessly. Logitech can't come up with a smart phone app to simply switch their player between Logitech's own two servers. Let's not segregate the SqueezeBox players any further, we are damn lucky to have what we have, and at $300 (or less) the Touch is the best device in it's class. I like your idea but what custom boutique hardware device that works for you won't work for all, as the current Touch model does. Someone else will argue I have an external DAC so remove the DAC or if I'm using the analog outs then remove the two digital outs or I plan to use a server on my PC so remove the USB and SD card you can drive yourself batty trying to custom build for every possible user scenario when all along the product you desire is already there, granted at a higher price point than you wish. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] New podcasts in Ben's Picks
I just added three podcasts, How To Do Everything, Freakonomics Radio, and The Moth to this squeezebox menu: Internet Radio-Staff Picks-Ben's Picks-Podcasts more on those podcasts here: http://howtodoeverything.org/moreinfo http://www.freakonomics.com/radio/ http://themoth.org/about I've long been a fan of podcasts, and in my advancing years I'm finding they are taking up an increasingly larger percentage of my listening time. Tomorrow I'm starting a job that, for the first time in a decade, requires me to commute. This spurred me to explore more of what was out there, mainly so I could listen to something entertaining during my potentially white-knuckled drives to the office. I'll be doing that listening on this nifty little Sansa Clip+ that I just picked up (more on that here: http://ask.metafilter.com/199286/Why-the-1-for-Sansa-Clip). But of course, I'd like to be able play these on my Squeezebox as well*. The UI for podcasts on Squeezebox has never been what it should be, mainly because Logitech decided to [redacted]. In a perfect world, Squeezebox would have some podcast-specific UI features-- bookmarking, resuming where you last left off, marking podcasts that have been already listened to, etc. Worse yet, the only half-successful service for accessing podcasts, the MediaFly app, seems to be basically dead (?) now (the UI always sucked anyway). However, I find that accessing rss feeds of podcasts through the Ben's Picks-Podcasts list to be at least a passably acceptable UI. Any of these list items will show you the up-to-date current feed and will typically sort chronologically, newest at the top (if the feed author knows what they are doing). Perfect, no. But nice enough to share :) I invite you all to give any of these new podcasts a shot, I'm finding them all quite entertaining. I'm going to vet several more in the coming weeks, and may be adding a few more to the list. If I do, I'll post to this thread to let the forum community know about it. Also, got a favorite podcast? Post it here. cheers, #!/ben * I have all these files dowloaded locally and could stream these via SBS, but what fun is that? -- bklaas Former Logitech Developer: Squeezeplay/SqueezeOS/SqueezeboxController/SqueezeCenter Community Developer: Nokia770Skin (r.i.p.) http://www.last.fm/user/bklaas/ 'KHAAAN!' (http://khaaan.com/)...'BUNNIES!' (http://home.pacbell.net/bettychu/2003allbreedbisris/BIS.html) bklaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91472 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Headless Squeezebox Player
yep if economics of scale should come in to it , logitech is probably wise to offer just two variants one with speakers one without , with a lot of features so it would fit the needs of many users. Remote controll hardware is no longer necessary as all kinds of apps are avaible. I don't think getting into 5-6 different models again is any good, it complicates the whole operation support development logistics everything, this costs is going somewhere. I think the choosen quality level is just rigth, you can build cheaper/crappier but then it would no longer be a product for music entusiasts . -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Headless Squeezebox Player
Carrick1973;668555 Wrote: I don't believe that a company like Logitech couldn't come up with an interface application that would work off of Android/iOS for setup/configuration of a headless unit. Apple certainly has with the Apple TV - well designed and powerful in a small unit that is 99 bucks. Doesn't the Apple TV have the benefit of a display to set it up with i.e. the TV ? The Controller/Receiver combination of the Duet attempt to use a very clever trick be able to set the Receiver up over wifi. When in setup mode the Receiver creates an ad hoc wifi network that the Controller connects to in order to set it up. It certainly wouldn't be possible for Logitech to create an iOS app that reproduces this setup process. iOS simply doesn't grant apps the low level network access required to pull off this trick. One would hope that if Logitech did I future headless unit that they'd take the approach that routers do, make the user connect it via Ethernet and use a web server on the player for wifi setup. -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Headless Squeezebox Player
andynormancx;668577 Wrote: Doesn't the Apple TV have the benefit of a display to set it up with i.e. the TV ? The Controller/Receiver combination of the Duet attempt to use a very clever trick be able to set the Receiver up over wifi. When in setup mode the Receiver creates an ad hoc wifi network that the Controller connects to in order to set it up. It certainly wouldn't be possible for Logitech to create an iOS app that reproduces this setup process. iOS simply doesn't grant apps the low level network access required to pull off this trick. One would hope that if Logitech did I future headless unit that they'd take the approach that routers do, make the user connect it via Ethernet and use a web server on the player for wifi setup. Very good points, and a good approach on setting it up. I don't think it would be terribly hard to implement, but it's a marketing decision that they don't want to make. Looks like Sonos wins on that front, but on the other hand, you certainly pay a premium for the Sonos brand even though it doesn't have the sound quality of the Touch. -- Carrick1973 Carrick1973's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51146 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Headless Squeezebox Player
I suggest looking for a used SB2 or SB3 on Craigslist or eBay. If you really don't want the display, you could just turn it off (using the brightness button on the remote control). -- TiredLegs TiredLegs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB touch and radio always stop after a few songs!
Since the last months my SB Touch and Radio (always playing linked) stop after playing a few songs. It happens with Dynamic Playlists also with normal albums. I think after 5-8 Songs i can see that one of the players stop and show the last song of the playlist, while other player goes on playing some sec and stopps then too. I m using SSOTS 4.14 with last 7.6 (beta)firmware because 7.7 isn't working on QNAP at the moment. I hope you can help me... i think i am having this error quite a long time.. perhaps since first 7.6 ... thought it was due to some WLAN-Connection problems of the radio, but now the connection is very stable but the stops still happen everyday! I think in the log the stop is somewhere in this area: 2075: [11-11-08 19:50:14.1116] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1243) Warning: [19:50:14.1092] Use of uninitialized value $index in string eq at /share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/SqueezeBoxServer/var/home/SqueezeboxServer/Slim/Control/Commands.pm line 990. 2074: [11-11-08 19:50:14.1081] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1243) Warning: [19:50:14.1054] Use of uninitialized value $index in string eq at /share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/SqueezeBoxServer/var/home/SqueezeboxServer/Slim/Control/Commands.pm line 990. 2073: [11-11-08 19:45:22.9448] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1243) Warning: [19:45:22.9423] Use of uninitialized value $clid in hash element at /share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/SqueezeBoxServer/var/home/SqueezeboxServer/Slim/Web/Cometd/Manager.pm line 196. 2072: [11-11-08 19:37:06.0049] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1243) Warning: [19:37:06.0024] Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/SqueezeBoxServer/var/home/SqueezeboxServer/CPAN/URI/Escape.pm line 194. 2071: [11-11-08 19:37:06.0008] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1243) Warning: [19:37:05.9982] Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/SqueezeBoxServer/var/home/SqueezeboxServer/CPAN/URI/Escape.pm line 194. 2070: [11-11-08 19:37:05.9424] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1243) Warning: [19:37:05.9397] Use of uninitialized value $index in string eq at /share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/SqueezeBoxServer/var/home/SqueezeboxServer/Slim/Control/Commands.pm line 990. -- mrMuppet mrMuppet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34722 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91473 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How I fixed my SB3 when it kept freezing /Rebooting
bpa;668454 Wrote: MP3 streams will go direct from station to SB3 player - the SBS does not get involved - so if you are getting freezing of audio - it is a network issue or a player issue. Do you have the same problem when using mysqueezebox.com ? Actually, when I use mysqueezebox.com it works fine. -- jojopuppyfish jojopuppyfish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91095 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How I fixed my SB3 when it kept freezing /Rebooting
jojopuppyfish;668604 Wrote: When I use mysqueezebox.com same thing Definitely a network or player issue. If you are using Wireless - test using a wired connection between player and router. If you are already using a wired connection - try your player on a different network setup such as at a friends house wired to their router -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91095 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ominous lack of stock in UK
I can't think of a single instance when the Logitech bean-counters have done the right thing for the Squeezebox community -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91460 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How I fixed my SB3 when it kept freezing /Rebooting
bpa;668621 Wrote: Definitely a network or player issue. If you are using Wireless - test using a wired connection between player and router. If you are already using a wired connection - try your player on a different network setup such as at a friends house wired to their router I could double check, but I think I did remove the wifi, then reset the device and it still was causing the same problems. -- jojopuppyfish jojopuppyfish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91095 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ominous lack of stock in UK
amcluesent;668624 Wrote:
I can't think of a single instance when the Logitech bean-counters have
done the right thing for the Squeezebox community
I can think of several things:
1. They saved the Squeezebox product by purchasing Slim Devices and
provided the economical strength needed to be able to develop and
release Touch and Radio.
2. They hired a number of third party developers within the community
3. They put the Squeezebox on the shelf on my local electronics store
4. They have signed deals with a number of streaming services and
provided access to them through mysqueezebox.com
5. They continued to take the costs to keep running this forum and the
related wiki
6. They released the two Squeezebox models with best potential so far
(Touch and Radio)
I could of course also make a list of what they have done wrong and
that list would probably have been longer, but saying that they haven't
done anything right isn't fair to them.
Of course, they did some of the above things thanks to the employees
originating from the community or Slim Devices and also thanks to
Sean/Dean who managed the Logitech unit responsible for Squeezeboxes
during the first 1-2 years after the purchase, most of them no longer
working for Logitech, but still, it was done while the Squeezebox
products were owned by Logitech.
It's easy to assume the world would have been a lot better if Logitech
never acquired Slim Devices, but it's important to realize that we
really don't know what would have happened if they didn't, Squeezeboxes
might not have been possible to buy at all today if it weren't for
Logitech. I'm pretty sure one of the main reasons why Slim Devices was
sold was because they couldn't produce enough profits without being
able to reach the masses and to accomplish this I could think of a lot
worse choices than Logitech, at least from a community perspective.
Another important reason was probably that they needed the economical
strength to be able to invest in product development to keep up with
the competition, this worked great within Logitech during the first
years, not so great during the last 2-3 years.
--
erland
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