Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
erland;671554 Wrote: If you ask me, this was a very positive message, because it shows that: 1. Logitech is aware that they need to focus on the user experience to make the products a success, something they haven't done during the last years with all the technical non music and non user related focus. 2. Logitech is planning for a future and doesn't plan to abandon the Squeezebox products as some people seems to think. 3. Logitech are aware of the fact that even if some people doesn't like it online streaming services is important for a success among the masses. 4. Logitech are aware that they can't drop important features that exist today, like playback of locally stored music. If I ask more or less any of my friends when they last purchased a CD, it's not during the last years, they all get their music through other channels than CD's these days. Some purchase music as electronic downloads from Apple, some of gets music from torrent sites, but most of them just gets music from online streaming services. I'm not sure how it looks like in other countries but I'm imagining it's going to be pretty much the same situation everywhere around the world fairly soon. Audiophiles are still going to want the CD because of the quality difference, but Logitech can't target audiophiles because on that market they are going to compete with HiFi manufacturers and most audiophiles are going to trust something with a HiFi manufacturer logo on the front a lot more than something with a Logitech logo on the front. I was not convinced about point 4 the rest I agree . If local playback gets really small compared to streaming it might be seen as just a cost and deleted. But on the other hand there is no big difference from the current situation with very slow unguided development . bugfixes and better MOG was all that was in future plans no 7.8 or 8.0 repo says something too ? Many of our developments aren't absolutely necessary any more, and we need to rework the product from start ugh . What could be scrapped from the very limited functionality it has, it cant even manage playlist that are not playing on any player (without plugins) ? Things could get reworked in a more user friendly fashion but that's another angle. And this Naturally, we'll keep the features our users have liked so far seems promising but which users ? all the web Radio only users that are unaware of the local playback possibilities . -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
You can, of course, hope that this guy is so far removed from the users, developers and marketing department that he has no clue what he's talking about and they'll be left to get on making it the product it should be. But that's always assuming that marketing have any clue, since they unfortunately tend to lead product development these days. :-( -- paulster Receiver stuck at blue LED state after reboot? Please vote for bug '17462' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17462) Web Interface sending music to the wrong player? Please vote for bug '17144' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17144) paulster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23073 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
Mnyb;671565 Wrote:
I was not convinced about point 4 the rest I agree .
If local playback gets really small compared to streaming it might be
seen as just a cost and deleted.
But on the other hand there is no big difference from the current
situation with very slow unguided development .
bugfixes and better MOG was all that was in future plans no 7.8 or
8.0 repo says something too ?
It can't get much worse than it already is, can it ?
Except for some new streaming services, when was the last time we got
something that enhanced the music browsing/listening experience ?
Mnyb;671565 Wrote:
Many of our developments aren't absolutely necessary any more, and we
need to rework the product from start ugh .
What could be scrapped from the very limited functionality it has, it
cant even manage playlist that are not playing on any player (without
plugins) ? Things could get reworked in a more user friendly fashion
but that's another angle.
I don't think we should worry too much, as long as they are willing to
spend development resources on it we should be better of than we are
today, especially if the current developers remains and is able to
explain why certain features are needed and they continue to make it
possible to enhance the system through third party add-ons.
SBS/LMS isn't really limited, it's one of the most featured streaming
server available on the market IMHO. So I'm sure there is a lot of
things that could be dropped without affecting most of us.
Of course, some people are going to be disappointed when a feature is
dropped but they will be even more disappointed if Logitech would drop
the complete product. Some dropped features are IMHO preferred instead
of dropping the complete product line which I think some of us have
been worried about for some time.
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Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
I'm not sure I understand why Logitech would want to concentrate on Internet radio. In the UK that market is well catered for with several models from the established radio manufacturers. Most have DAB, and/or FM radios built in as well. Some have CD players or iPod docks. The Logitech Radio, while cheaper than most, does not have many extras, and as far as I am aware, Logitech doesn't have much of a radio history. -- Mushroom_3 Mushroom_3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13434 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MonkeySqueeze
Gingernut63;671199 Wrote: Regarding V1.5 you only need SqueezePlay if you wish to play music on a PC in-sync with Squeezebox system. In other words V1.5 works the same as V2.0 except it communicates via the CLI port (9090) instead of the HTTP port (9000). Thanks, I tried but could not connect to TinySBS with 1.5, only to LMS. I reverted to MonkeySqueeze 2 -- nicolas75 nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89046 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
paulster;671566 Wrote: But that's always assuming that marketing have any clue, since they unfortunately tend to lead product development these days. :-( Don't you mean marketing and accounting? I think Logitech started well improving on the Slim Server ideas but over time they have lost direction and during the last couple of years they have been treading water. The exception being the radio. Logitech are a company that markets computer gadgets and remote controls and I don't think Slim Devices/Squeezebox is a good fit and they probably realise that. The product is too expensive to be a match with the rest of the product line. They have tried other delivery systems before and since the purchase and they have all been of a much lesser quality to Squeezebox. Anyway as castalla has stated, while the hardware still functions we can still have a Squeezebox network, it just seems that the future doesn't look too bright at the moment. Sorry erland, I didn't see that many positives coming out of the interview myself, maybe I'm a glass half full person. -- Gingernut63 Gingernut63 MonkeySqueeze - Squeezing music into your life! http://twitter.com/#!/MonkeySqueeze1 MonkeySqueeze Support: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2t=59515 MonkeySqueeze Development: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=59907 Squeezebox Boom - SqueezePlay - Squeeze Player - MediaMonkey - MonkeyTunes Gingernut63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48490 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
sebp;671521 Wrote: My only point is that you're calling now, and already have been before, Logitech to stop developing SBS/LMS as we know it today, to move to a Windows centric product. And that would really suck for all of us using non Windows-based systems if they hear you. Dot. I won't even bother pointing you to the links proving that this is as false as when you falsely accused me of being asking you to stop using LMS. And I will stop this childish and useless discussion, or try to make you understand what is my point of view. Sorry for all those who have been bothered with. I shouldn't have answered your first post dismissing Big Windows Devil solutions including MonkeySqueeze, it was meant for troll ... -- nicolas75 nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MonkeySqueeze
Oh well, worth a try. Thanks for letting me know. I'll put it on the wishlist in the MonkeySqueeze Development forum. Cheers -- Gingernut63 Gingernut63 MonkeySqueeze - Squeezing music into your life! http://twitter.com/#!/MonkeySqueeze1 MonkeySqueeze Support: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2t=59515 MonkeySqueeze Development: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=59907 Squeezebox Boom - SqueezePlay - Squeeze Player - MediaMonkey - MonkeyTunes Gingernut63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48490 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89046 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
NikolajC;671300 Wrote: When opening up the app it sometimes takes a minute to connect to my Sheevaplug. And it might even takes more time populating the player list after that. I'm seeing the same thing. Lately, it seems to take a long time to connect to my server and populate the list of (5) players NikolajC;671300 Wrote: Also it seems that while managing players it sometimes loses the connecting and goes back to the connecting... I'm not seeing this issue though. -- elziko elziko's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11835 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
Gingernut63;671576 Wrote:
Anyway as castalla has stated, while the hardware still functions we
can still have a Squeezebox network, it just seems that the future
doesn't look too bright at the moment. Sorry erland, I didn't see that
many positives coming out of the interview myself, maybe I'm a glass
half full person.
I guess it's just a matter of what you expected them to say, I was
personally worried that they would say that they are going to drop the
Squeezebox line and focus on iPod docks instead. So compared to that,
the interview was pretty positive.
I think we all can see the negative side effect of less focus on audio
quality and less focus on local music playback, but in my mind that's
still better than no focus at all on Squeezeboxes, which is pretty much
is what we have had during the last year.
It doesn't matter if we like it or not, but if Squeezebox is going to
survive within Logitech they need to be able to bring it to the masses,
and to be able to do that they are going to make some people on these
forums disapointed but in my mind that's still better than the
alternative which would be to drop the product line completely.
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Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
erland;671582 Wrote: It doesn't matter if we like it or not, but if Squeezebox is going to survive within Logitech they need to be able to bring it to the masses, and to be able to do that they are going to make some people on these forums disapointed but in my mind that's still better than the alternative which would be to drop the product line completely. True. Nothing has happened yet so there is always hope that things aren't as bad as predicted. Time will tell. One other quick comment. In Australia we have little access to online music delivery such as Spotify (well in Spotifys case none actually). I'm sure there are many other countries not in the US or Europe area that are in the same predicament. Yet I know many business are putting a lot of effort into online music delivery or access. It really #@%%$$# me off that we can't access it. Oh well I suppose I better get used it, in the short term... hopefully. -- Gingernut63 Gingernut63 MonkeySqueeze - Squeezing music into your life! http://twitter.com/#!/MonkeySqueeze1 MonkeySqueeze Support: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2t=59515 MonkeySqueeze Development: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=59907 Squeezebox Boom - SqueezePlay - Squeeze Player - MediaMonkey - MonkeyTunes Gingernut63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48490 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
erland;671582 Wrote: It doesn't matter if we like it or not, but if Squeezebox is going to survive within Logitech they need to be able to bring it to the masses, and to be able to do that they are going to make some people on these forums disapointed. That's where I disagree with you. The reason they haven't brought it to the masses is because they've been absolutely hopeless at marketing and positioning it. If you walk into any given Best Buy in the States, for example, you'll find it in with audio products, clock radios, computer accessories or other random locations. Not so with Sonos that has proper branding displays and strict placement rules, because they've taken the time and effort to work out how it needs to be pitched. Logitech are big enough and experienced enough to be able to do this; they just haven't bothered and have let it slip right through their fingers. The product manager should be sacked and they should get someone in who actually understands what the product it, what demographic will purchase it and, just as important, see how their competitors (i.e. Sonos) are pitching and placing their products, and then use their significantly larger corporate backing to beat them at their own game. It's product marketing 101. -- paulster Receiver stuck at blue LED state after reboot? Please vote for bug '17462' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17462) Web Interface sending music to the wrong player? Please vote for bug '17144' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17144) paulster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23073 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
paulster;671586 Wrote:
That's where I disagree with you. The reason they haven't brought it to
the masses is because they've been absolutely hopeless at marketing and
positioning it.
If you walk into any given Best Buy in the States, for example, you'll
find it in with audio products, clock radios, computer accessories or
other random locations. Not so with Sonos that has proper branding
displays and strict placement rules, because they've taken the time and
effort to work out how it needs to be pitched.
Logitech are big enough and experienced enough to be able to do this;
they just haven't bothered and have let it slip right through their
fingers.
The product manager should be sacked and they should get someone in who
actually understands what the product it, what demographic will purchase
it and, just as important, see how their competitors (i.e. Sonos) are
pitching and placing their products, and then use their significantly
larger corporate backing to beat them at their own game. It's product
marketing 101.
Just to be clear, I 100% agree with you regarding this, it's just that
I don't think it's enough, I think it will require changes in the
software too. However, without proper marketing it's never going to
work independent which software changes they make, selling an audio
streaming device to the masses is always going to require more
advertisement/marketing than mices and keyboards. I assume there are
people within Logitech that understands this.
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Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
erland;671582 Wrote: It doesn't matter if we like it or not, but if Squeezebox is going to survive within Logitech they need to be able to bring it to the masses, and to be able to do that they are going to make some people on these forums disapointed but in my mind that's still better than the alternative which would be to drop the product line completely. erland;671554 Wrote: If you ask me, this was a very positive message . If I ask more or less any of my friends when they last purchased a CD... but most of them just gets music from online streaming services. I'm not sure how it looks like in other countries but I'm imagining it's going to be pretty much the same situation everywhere around the world fairly soon +1 ;) Precisely why I am also encouraged by the comments and the general direction. I see the same trends with my friends and acquaintances, as well as my own listening. I think many of the audiophile SB customers (I don't qualify myself) too quickly dismiss the offered online content with a who needs it attitude. Well, the majority of customers want it and SB needs it to stay relevant in the streaming hardware market. The mass production of these players keeps the per unit price *very* reasonable. Take away such services and your unit sales will plummet, making a Touch player much more expensive and eventually dropped by Logitech (or whoever) all together as an under performer in their product offerings. Like everyone else I hope they don't dumb it down too much, we wait we see. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Hi, So I've set up a UPnP browser in foobar2000 and it seems that the library the WB serves is fine: no dupes and no weird HTML markup fragments. The question now is why is WMP doing this? I've erased the cache, I've refreshed the library, and it's always like that. It also takes about an hour to download the full library: is that normal behaviour? -- Wigster Wigster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14899 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re-connect to mysqueezebox.com
I have had my SB Duet for several years and my extra receiver for a year but only yesterday (I Know :) I found out that I can connect to mysqueezebox.com and use Wimp, a music streaming service I pay a monthly subscription to (besides all the other services) without having the Logitech Media Server running. Pretty cool. I don't use the Duet handset anymore as the app for my Android is much better. From the web page of the LMS I reconnected to the LMS but I can't find a way to switch to mysqueezebox.com so now none of the receivers are found be the app if I don't have the LMS running. Can it be true that I can't switch between LMS and mysqueezebox.com? I guess there is no way that the receiver is always connected to mysqueezebox.com if the LMS is not running? -- kaja69 kaja69's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=27737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91757 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
toby10;671593 Wrote: I think many of the audiophile SB customers (I don't qualify myself) too quickly dismiss the offered online content with a who needs it attitude. I would qualify myself as a audiophile user, but I don't think the issue is the who needs it attitude, but the There aren't any streaming services available attitude. In the Netherlands you can choose between Spotify, Spotify and Spotify. Oh, you can get Spotify, too. I just cancelled my Spotify subscription, I couldn't justify the costs of the premium subscription needed for Spotify on the Squeezebox, while I buy several CDs (and/or downloads) a month. That's severel times the costs of a Spotify premium subscription. I didn't use Spotify that much... -- verypsb 1x Boom, 1x Classic, 2x Controller, 2x Receiver, 1x Touch Please vote for bug 1330: new music should work on creation date http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1330 Please vote for bug 17205: Artists with accented characters not correctly sorted in pagebar. http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17205 verypsb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17295 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re-connect to mysqueezebox.com
Whether that Android app will switch players between LMS and MySB depends on the app. I believe one does offer that while others do not. Absent the Controller or an Android app to do so you will have to use the LMS web UI to switch between LMS and MySB. This cannot be done using MySB web UI. From LMS to MySB: LMS web UI Extras Music Source MySB.com From MySB to LMS: LMS web UI player section (upper right) drop down screen select player -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91757 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
MrC;671464 Wrote: I haven't said thanks recently, so I sent you 30.00 EUR. Enjoy dinner on me. Thanks.Brilliant !! Thank you. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Encouraged about the future
No matter what happens to our beloved product line, it seems that we will always have a place of our own :-) http://squeezeboxforum.com/ -- Fahzz Living Room: Duet, Adcom GFA 545II, Adcom GFP 555II, Polk SDA 2B Dining Room: Paradigm Atom Monitor v.5 Bedroom: SB3, Pioneer VSX 5700S,Pinnacle PN 5+, MK VX-7 Subwoofer Anywhere Else As Needed: Boom Router: Linksys WRT54G Server: SBS Version 7.6.1, Acer Aspire Laptop (Wired...Finally), Windows 7 Home Fahzz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12585 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91758 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
verypsb;671613 Wrote: I would qualify myself as a audiophile user, but I don't think the issue is the who needs it attitude, but the There aren't any streaming services available attitude. Agreed. But imagine how much more popular SB players would be in your market if there were actual competing streaming choices. That's my point. ;) More services = more choices = more interest = more streaming hardware sales (for all mfr's, not just SB). -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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verypsb;671613 Wrote: I would qualify myself as a audiophile user, but I don't think the issue is the who needs it attitude, but the There aren't any streaming services available attitude. +1, although I would only qualify myself as a music lover. Music is too important for me not to own it, and these online services are like loaning music. I just don't like this idea. They may be a great way to discover new music, but I couldn't live with them as my sole mean of listening to music. I'm perfectly aware most people would, though. In these trouble times, I'm worried that if I ever get to lose my job and am broke someday, I wouldn't be able to continue paying for them, but would still be able to listen to the thousand albums I've bought so far (and even try to sold some to make some cash). Even if I could afford it today, I'm not a subscriber to this kind of services today because I simply wouldn't use them enough to make it worth the monthly cost. -- sebp 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/sebp) sebp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11768 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezeslave 1.1-253 lcdproc 0.5.4
r308+ should now work with newer lcdproc versions. I've updated -l/--lcd LCDd (lcdproc) to use Priorities keywords instead of values and added -C/--lcdc option to revert Priorities to use values for those still running lcdproc 0.5.4. -- ralphy Ralphy *1*-Touch, *4*-Classics, *2*-Booms, *12*-Squeezeslaves 'Squeezeslave' (http://code.google.com/p/squeezeslave/) 'donations' (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donationsbusiness=LL5P6365KQEXNlc=CAitem_name=Squeezeslavecurrency_code=USDbn=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donate_SM%2egif%3aNonHosted) always appreciated. ralphy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88315 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2 Released
Wigster;671605 Wrote: It also takes about an hour to download the full library: is that normal behaviour? My library is about 15000 tracks.It takes 25 minutes for just under 10k tracks in my case, so this does sound a bit on the slow side. Note: The chain is WMP - Whitebear - SBS, where the slowest link is SBS and this itself is limited by your CPU capacity... Wigster;671605 Wrote: The question now is why is WMP doing this? I've erased the cache, I've refreshed the library, and it's always like that.Well, take a deep breath, the following gets techncial... The browsing of a Digital Media Server (music library) is handled by a UPnP Service called ContentDirectory; this Service supports two Actions called Browse and Search. The Browse Action is a hierarchical tree based browsing structure having nested branches (like Artists, Genres, Albums) that finally ends up with leaves (i.e. the tracks). And the Search Action is a database query (give me all tracks where the artist name is Fred). Some Control Points (such as FooBar) use the Browse Action. This means that the ContentDirectory browse tree exactly follows the structure that is hardwired in Whitebear respectively in SBS. Here you would only get track duplication if the track is really physically duplicated in the SBS database (but in that case each track would still have a different Url). Other Control Points (such as J. River Media Center) use the Search Action (give me all items that are music tracks) and the Control Point builds itself a local database (cache) of the respective tracks. The Control Point sorts and structures its database locally according to the meta data tags that Whitebear/SBS provide along with the track concerned. So it may indeed (if it so wishes) create a duplicate entry in its local cache for a single downloaded track based on its its own local rules. Now Windows Media Player 12 is really a special beast. (Of course...) It prefers to use the Search Action. So normally it behaves as J. River Media Center does. But if the Search Action fails it falls back to using the Browse Action and then uses this Action to actively iterate through all branches of the Whitebear/SBS browse tree and add the respective track its local database. Normally WMP12 makes one Search request, and if that request succeeds it continues to download the whole library using the Search Action, however if the first Search fails, it then switches over to using the Browse Action. Now, my speculation is that in your case, WMP 12 may be starting the download of your library using the Search Action, and then for some reason, one of the Search requests may be failing, and it then switches over to using the Browse Action whereupon it re-does the whole download again. The 60 minutes for downloading 15k tracks, compared to 25 minutes for downloading my 10k tracks, supports the hypothesis that half your library is being downloaded using the Search Action, and then the full library is being downloaded again using the Browse Action. In other words, it may be that your library is being downloaded one-and-a-half times; and this might well lead to WMP 12 having duplicate entries for the half of your library that was downloaded twice. How to check this hypothesis? Well I will need a log from Whitebear in which logging is turned on for both the Http Server, and for the Squeezebox CLI commands, so that I can identify if 1) there is a Search Action request that fails, and 2) that it switches over to Browse, and 3) if so, why. I estimate that a log for a full download of 15k tracks will be around 100 MBytes in size; which is clearly too big to post here or send by mail. Do you have access to a web server where you can put such a log file? If so please send me (by PM) a link where I can download it. If not then you will need to open the log file in Notepad (it may take Notepad 15 minutes or more to just even open such a file) and then search for the string #Browse (including the leading hash sign), if you find a #Browse, search backwards from that #Browse to find the last instance of #Search before it, and then copy everything between the last #Search and the first #Browse (plus a page on either side to be on the safe side). -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LMS 7.7.0 unstable as hell on Windows 2003 Server?
OK I just tried uninstalling, deleting all folders, then re-installing from scratch. This time I got an unhandled win32 exception from the scanner (4488). The last error message in the scanner log was: Invalid or corrupt image file(code -4) ...but this error occurs many times in the log so I don't think it caused the exception. The server log is below. Could this be anything to do with the fact that my main music folder is on a NAS device? [11-11-19 08:50:02.6908] main::init (354) Starting Logitech Media Server (v7.7.0, r33614, Tue Oct 18 11:17:52 PDT 2011) perl 5.014001 [11-11-19 08:50:04.6907] Slim::Utils::SQLiteHelper::postConnect (359) Optimizing DB because of missing or empty sqlite_stat1 table [11-11-19 08:50:04.7742] Slim::Schema::init (162) Warning: Creating new database - empty, outdated or invalid database found [11-11-19 08:50:17.4407] Slim::Plugin::MusicMagic::Plugin::initPlugin (268) Can't connect to port 10002 - MusicIP disabled. [11-11-19 08:50:19.5288] main::checkDataSource (1072) Warning: Schema updated or no media found in the database, initiating scan. [11-11-19 08:51:09.2242] Slim::Utils::SQLiteHelper::postConnect (359) Optimizing DB because of missing or empty sqlite_stat1 table [11-11-19 08:51:37.0497] Slim::Utils::SQLiteHelper::postConnect (359) Optimizing DB because of missing or empty sqlite_stat1 table -- itm itm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17437 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91701 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
Well, if that turns out to be a problem, and since the Logitech app is free, why couldn't the apk just be made available here on the Logitech download server? -- tonyptony tonyptony's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
Christian, I don't know if this has been asked yet, but is there any chance you could make this available via the Amazon App Store? Devices like the Nook Tablet cannot access the (Google) Android App store. -- tonyptony tonyptony's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Encouraged about the future
Cool! Always fun having a squeezebox at hand! :) -- michel michel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4393 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91758 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
tonyptony;671638 Wrote: Well, if that turns out to be a problem, and since the Logitech app is free, why couldn't the apk just be made available here on the Logitech download server? Good point. Especially since the beta was available on bugzilla. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
From the FAQ for developers: https://developer.amazon.com/help/faq.html For international developers, we pay using *paper checks* and disburse funds when your balance due exceeds $100. Is Amazon still living in the stone age? -- bluegaspode Did you know: *'SqueezePlayer' (www.squeezeplayer.com)* will stream all your music to your Android device. Take your music everywhere! Remote Control + Streaming to your iPad? *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com)* Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? = why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? = why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
no, but they are still in the US ;) -- fragfutter sent from a computer using a keyboard fragfutter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35184 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
And are they accepting Apps from Germans again in the meantime? http://www.fiercedeveloper.com/story/amazon-suspends-german-developer-submissions-appstore-android/2011-08-01 -- bluegaspode Did you know: *'SqueezePlayer' (www.squeezeplayer.com)* will stream all your music to your Android device. Take your music everywhere! Remote Control + Streaming to your iPad? *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com)* Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? = why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? = why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LMS 7.7.0 unstable as hell on Windows 2003 Server?
itm;671636 Wrote: Could this be anything to do with the fact that my main music folder is on a NAS device? Possibly. Where is the database? -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91701 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LMS 7.7.0 unstable as hell on Windows 2003 Server?
JJZolx;671668 Wrote: Possibly. Where is the database? The database is on the local Windows 2003 Server. This configuration was never a problem for the last version of Squeezebox Server. -- itm itm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17437 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91701 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LMS 7.7.0 unstable as hell on Windows 2003 Server?
Disable as many of the built-in plugins as you can live without, including UPnP/DLNA. Stop the server, clear the cache folder, cross your fingers, restart. -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91701 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re-connect to mysqueezebox.com
Thanks! It sure isn't the most intuitive UI. Strange that MySB is not always availeble if the LMS is offline. The LMS and the receiver has to be running to make the changes. And why can't I control it from the Logitech app? -- kaja69 kaja69's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=27737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91757 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LMS 7.7.0 unstable as hell on Windows 2003 Server?
JJZolx;671671 Wrote: Disable as many of the built-in plugins as you can live without, including UPnP/DLNA. Stop the server, clear the cache folder, cross your fingers, restart. Pardon my ignorance, but which folder is the cache folder? (I can't see anything of that name in c:\program files\squeezebox) -- itm itm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17437 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91701 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LMS 7.7.0 unstable as hell on Windows 2003 Server?
Go into the web interface, Settings Information page. Near the bottom of the page it shows the location of several folders. The cache folder contains all of the server's data, including the databases, resized cover art, etc. Looks like your library database is corrupt. -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91701 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
Is the paper check only for the first disbursement or for all? TradeDoubler had such a scheme for account verification (paper checks until they can see that you've cashed a check to an account that belongs to you). Cashing a US check in Germany costs something like 25. Cool! -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
sebp;671626 Wrote: Music is too important for me not to own it, and these online services are like loaning music. I just don't like this idea. They may be a great way to discover new music, but I couldn't live with them as my sole mean of listening to music. I'm perfectly aware most people would, though. In these trouble times, I'm worried that if I ever get to lose my job and am broke someday, I wouldn't be able to continue paying for them, but would still be able to listen to the thousand albums I've bought so far (and even try to sold some to make some cash). Agree with all the above. I like to have ownership and control over the music I listen too. I would however like to access a streaming music service for a short time just to see what all the fuss is about. Indeed I have a friend who is mad keen for me to try it but as previously posted I have no access ;). The internet is a communication system, what happens if it falls over or someone cuts through a cable etc... How can you access the music then? Who is driving streaming music online? Is it the customers or is the companies? I also don't like the idea of storing my data online in the cloud. Do we as consumers actually sit down and think of the ramifications of adopting new technology and services. Again, who is driving a lot of these ideas? -- Gingernut63 Gingernut63 MonkeySqueeze - Squeezing music into your life! http://twitter.com/#!/MonkeySqueeze1 MonkeySqueeze Support: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2t=59515 MonkeySqueeze Development: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=59907 Squeezebox Boom - SqueezePlay - Squeeze Player - MediaMonkey - MonkeyTunes Gingernut63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48490 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
The product manager should be sacked and they should get someone in who actually understands what the product it, what demographic will purchase it Yep. I've just seen a TV advert for the Brennan player on Sky News here in England. If a one product SME can do marketing, why not Logitech? -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
amcluesent;671686 Wrote: The product manager should be sacked and they should get someone in who actually understands what the product it, what demographic will purchase it Yep. I've just seen a TV advert for the Brennan player on Sky News here in England. If a one product SME can do marketing, why not Logitech? I suspect they are aimed at different consumers. The Brennan is also advertised in the UK daily press and Private Eye (!). A more direct competitor is the Cockail Audio x10. Neither can do what, say, what the Touch can do - and neither are as flexible as players. The x10 does have its fans and its own forum, the Brennan is very much a niche unit. Both are considerably more expensive than Logitechs. -- castalla 1 Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers - 2 duff ears - purrfekt! castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
Oh dear, something has changed since this posting on a website about the Duet back in May 21, 2008 Logitech bought Slim Devices, but we retained virtually all (I think we lost one) the same developers that brought you the Squeezebox Classic and Transporter. That includes the founder and lead product tinkerer Sean Adams, and our Director of Engineering Dean Blackketter. With the additional funding Logitech has thrown behind us, we actually expanded our engineering ranks quite a bit by hiring some of our most prolific community developers. I can't speak for how the keyboard guys release their software, but the main reason we acquired these guys was their expertise in the field. The Logitech overloards have not taken over, in fact we're having an affect on the rest of the company in terms of how the greater Logitech releases and tests their software and products with our whole open source thing. Mike __ Michael Valera Online Communities Manager Logitech Streaming Media Business Unit slimdevices.com . -- Gingernut63 Gingernut63 MonkeySqueeze - Squeezing music into your life! http://twitter.com/#!/MonkeySqueeze1 MonkeySqueeze Support: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2t=59515 MonkeySqueeze Development: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=59907 Squeezebox Boom - SqueezePlay - Squeeze Player - MediaMonkey - MonkeyTunes Gingernut63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48490 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech drops Revue, says early Google TV intro a 'mistake'
erland;671582 Wrote: I guess it's just a matter of what you expected them to say, I was personally worried that they would say that they are going to drop the Squeezebox line and focus on iPod docks instead. So compared to that, the interview was pretty positive. This is some kind of worst case scenario, but I'm afraid Logitech could design their future SB products as fat clients with closed-source firmware. Being closed-source, they could embed all the required stuff to access online music services. mysb.com not being needed any more, they could shut it down (and I guess this alone would imply huge savings!). Then, most potential consumers have always complained the SB couldn't simply connect to a UPnP server, but required a specific server. Logitech could just make the future SB a UPnP client. Say good bye to SBS/LMS. Future will tell, but I find this scenario quite plausible. I guess I should buy few Touch before it's too late... -- sebp 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/sebp) sebp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11768 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Can anyone help solve this?
My squeezebox server cannot connect to my computer, which has our ITunes library. Can anyone tell me how I can address this? The computer is on, the network is operating, and the squeezebox server is on, as far as I can tell. I have tried rebooting the computer and rebooting everything else I can think of. I am not great with computers, so I am hoping someone out there will have both knowledge and mercy. Thanks. -- carolm carolm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51514 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91765 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can anyone help solve this?
What did you install your Squeezebox server on? It should be installed on the same computer that your itunes is installed on. -- w3wilkes 2 Duets - 1 for upstairs and 1 for downstairs w3wilkes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91765 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
thanks for sharing, really grat topics -- goodbabywell goodbabywell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51523 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Is there an latina quantity of these pine pertaining to little princess the things th
Shirley Hayward see a little lost. put the House from A to Prince Edward handed him the tin. hoping to transfer his attention. Ah. Where to get it. Hayward took over after taking a closer look found that it just not crack the iron sea Prince House walls. you cast magic. it fell out. I feel like is very important things. so we brought back. Oh. This study will examine. tin originally wanted to give back to China to listen to the snow shadow of the sea. to the interested. After such is not open. help force the shook. shook. Sound coming out of there. obviously there are things. If Hayward is placed inside to know what. I think he was not dead so dangling Luanyao. Oh. something. given what is baby. Hayward. after hearing the sound. are not happy. No cracks in this fine work. -- kaylaingersoll kaylaingersoll's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51525 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91767 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Net::UDAP - SqueezeBox Receiver configuration tool
Hi again. I mean this big thing on top of the stereo, where the title you select with your iPhone will be repeatet in a display. What is it? Sorry, that i'm#65279; so courious. Beside this, i found now some information about Carver. But nothing about this peace of technik. -- levijoseph levijoseph's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51475 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57861 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
You may be missing something. This is a Virtual Appliance (Ubuntu 9.10) with the Android SDK installed.You can use this#65279; on a Mac, I used a Mac to build the Virtual Machine in Virtual Box. VirtualBox runs on Mac, therefore you can run this Virtual Appliance on a Mac or most any other computer. http://drseuss-quotes.blogspot.com/ -- levijoseph levijoseph's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51475 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
