Re: [slim] Scanning - Metadata Changes

2012-02-26 Thread JJZolx

pjs;692622 Wrote: 
 Just to make sure I'm *not* crazy, I wanted to verify that when I rescan
 with Find new and changed music it won't update database entries when
 the metadata changes only.

That's incorrect. It _will_ update the database when only the metadata
changes. If either the file size or the date modified changes, the
scanner will rescan the file and update the database.

 If I'm not crazy, and this is the case, is there a way to scan *just*
 the mp3 metadata?  Or have the Logitech Media Server look at the mp3
 metadata when deciding to update the DB entry without dumping the
 entire DB at the outset?

A 'new  changed' scan does NOT dump the database before starting, but
a full 'clear library and rescan everything' scan does. Scanning 'just'
the metadata isn't an option, since when a file has changed, the server
has no way of knowing whether the metadata has changed, the audio
portion has changed, or both. In any case, if you're worried about scan
time or efficiency, there's little difference. The scanner doesn't
'scan' the audio portion of the file - it only needs to know where it
begins and its length.

A couple things to know:

Normally, you can use the much faster 'new  changed' scan and the
scanner will update the database correctly. But sometimes stale data
can be left behind. You may find it necessary to run a full 'clear and
rescan everything' once in a while.

When there are a _lot_ of files changed or moved or deleted at one time
(say thousands), it can be faster to run a full scan than a new 
changed scan.

Sometimes a new  changed scan won't correctly update album artwork.
I've found this is especially true if you're adding a cover to an album
that previously had none. Often the only way to straighten out the
database is to run a full scan.


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Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !

2012-02-26 Thread bluegaspode

amcluesent;692497 Wrote: 
 If it's confirmed the iPad 3 will double the h*w pixel count, what use
 could be made of the extra resolution?

I think this can only be decided with the actual device in my hands
(sigh - guess I'll need to invest into new hardware then though I'm
still soo happy with my iPad1).
This also means that we'd have to wait at least until the device is
made available in Germany.

As was said already I don't think that it will influence the general
screen layout of SqueezePad.
Buttons need to stay the same size, because a higher resolution does
not mean, that our fingers get smaller :)

Of course all internal graphics could be provided in a higher
resolution.
Then there is also the cover art. The big cover in SqueezePad is
already requested in original resolution so might already make use of
more pixels.
Then we have all those album covers which right now I request in 64x64
(same size as Touch, to take advantage of the image cache that is built
while scanning the library).

Changing that to 128x128 will make SqueezePad slower when loading the
album list the first time and I guess there are still people out there
who buy the latest iPad but still run on ultra slow NAS :(
Will need to think about whether on iPad3 I will just request the
better resolution by default or if there should be a setting (but I
don't like settings).

So loads of stuff to do once it appears, but the very first thing
indeed will be to see how much effect this will make in the end. I
never considered the current resolution of the iPad as bad, I mean even
games like Infinity Sword look awesome already.
So personally (but I'm oldschool when it comes to gimmics ;) ) I think
that the new iPad will matter as much as cameras with 12megapixels
compared to 8megapixels:
Good for selling devices but no actual difference in daily use.


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Re: [slim] Ps3 + lms + flac

2012-02-26 Thread toby10

No, it works fine on any DLNA player including the older PS3.  Is
TVersity running at the same time?  Might try running just LMS after
you turn off any other media server programs, they may be all trying to
use the same ports.  Reboot LMS (stop then restart) when all other media
servers are turned off.

Also make sure the UPnP/DLNA plugin is enabled in LMS  Settings 
Plugins


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Re: [slim] Scanning - Metadata Changes

2012-02-26 Thread Mnyb

Some files have padded tag area so a tag change may not chnage it's size
that leaves timestamps , but you don't wnat to ruin your chronology in
the new music folders so some poeple have found ways to just adjust the
time stamp 2 seconds or similar .


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Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !

2012-02-26 Thread pippin

Seriously?
I always considered the resolution of the iPad as a problem, it's the
lowest resolution device I own at all, even counting very old PCs
OK, my TV may be worse.

Games don't count, games usually don't need high resolution because
they use lots of colors. For a long time, most games on PCs never
used the full screen resolution .

Where resolution matters is Books and Text and here the iPad really is
NOT good, blurry text if you go to small sizes or if you use anything
other than black and white.
The things where iPad excels (BECAUSE of the low resolution, and that's
why Apple will have done it this way) is speed and power consumption.
Will be interesting to see how iPad 3 competes in these sections.


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Re: [slim] My System Works!

2012-02-26 Thread castalla

I suspect that the above system will be superceded fairly quickly once
the Raspberry Pi becomes easily available!


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Re: [slim] SBS looking at multiple folders?

2012-02-26 Thread Blisteringblue

There are loads of things that could bring the duplicates into play?

If you have a shortcut in the Flac folder to the MP3 folder it will
scan them too?

Also do you have any playlists linking the MP3 files?  These will also
add them to the library.

Also have you got iTunes integration turned on?  This will also bring
the MP3 files in.

There are probably other reasons too.  You will need to look hard at
your library to see how the scan is referencing the MP3s.

When I started with Squeeze it took me a couple of months to sort out
my library structure to prevent Flac and MP3 duplicates.


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Re: [slim] Logitech, please post an apk for the Squeezebox Controller App

2012-02-26 Thread Michael Herger
 Oh, Michael, thank you very much, indeed.  Had this always been there,
 and I hadn't seen it?  Apologies if we were wasting your time.

Don't worry: I only added the link before I posted.

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[slim] Controller firmware update

2012-02-26 Thread cliveb

I recently rebuilt my server, which previously ran Ubuntu 8.10 with an
old version of SqueezeCenter (7.2 or 7.3, I can't quite remember
which).

I decided that perhaps the simplest option was to just build a
Vortexbox system, so have installed VB 1.10. This uses Squeezebox
Server 7.6.1 r33149.

Problem is, I can't get my two Controllers to update their firmware.
They are stuck on 7.3 r3476, and behaving rather strangely with the new
server software. If I do SettingsAdvancedSoftware Update, all I get as
an option is Cancel. I tried a factory reset of the Controller, but that
has not changed things. I then tried pulling the battery to force a
cold reboot and that didn't change things.

So how do I force a Controller to update its firmware?


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Re: [slim] Controller firmware update

2012-02-26 Thread audiomuze

put the firmware update on a cf card, pop that into the controller and
update from it.


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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music2touch 1.4.3 for the Blackberry Playbook released

2012-02-26 Thread friedit

RonM;692333 Wrote: 
 Re the volume control, I agree it is awkward to use.  I find it
 difficult to adjust the slider.  It looks like the same functionality
 as the built in music player. Also hard to use.  
 
 I would prefer Controller style functionality, with an incremental
 adjustment for each tap.
 
 This is my biggest irritation.
 
 R

Yes it's a native component. Honestly I don't use it much since I
control the volume with my av receiver remote. But I can look into it.


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[slim] Can't seem to rescan for new musice/files

2012-02-26 Thread shacky

I've been using Squeezebox and Squeezebox Touch for several years. 
Never had this problem before.

I've been ripping quite a few CD's from my library.  Typically I'll use
web based controller to search for new music finding need to do a full
clear ans search every now an then.

Well these last few days I can't seem to do a rescan for new music.  It
gives me this message then stops:

Progress information from the previous scan is not available.

So I have to do a full clear all and rescan to find new music files. 
Even rebooting won't find new files.

HELP!


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[slim] pre requirements to installing Squeezeboxserver

2012-02-26 Thread phreak

can someone please list all the required RPMs, packages and addons
needed to get Squeeze Server working?

I have a Centos 6.2 server dedicated to this job and as such is
bearbones (little software installed)

what do I need to get going?
Peter


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Re: [slim] Controller firmware update

2012-02-26 Thread cliveb

audiomuze;692696 Wrote: 
 put the firmware update on a cf card, pop that into the controller and
 update from it.
Thanks - I found the page on Logitech's site that explains how to do
this with an SD card, and am now sorted.

One additional question: is there any way to disable the icons
displayed next to menu items (eg. on the home menu). The reason I'd
like to do this is that I've installed the Other Players plugin and
added it to the home menu. It doesn't have an icon, so the menu looks
peculiar.


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Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !

2012-02-26 Thread bluegaspode

pippin;692652 Wrote: 
 Seriously?
 I always considered the resolution of the iPad as a problem, it's the
 lowest resolution device I own at all, even counting very old PCs
 OK, my TV may be worse.
 
 Games don't count, games usually don't need high resolution because
 they use lots of colors. For a long time, most games on PCs never
 used the full screen resolution .
 
 Where resolution matters is Books and Text and here the iPad really is
 NOT good, blurry text if you go to small sizes or if you use anything
 other than black and white.
 The things where iPad excels (BECAUSE of the low resolution, and that's
 why Apple will have done it this way) is speed and power consumption.
 Will be interesting to see how iPad 3 competes in these sections.

From your words it sounds as if the iPad was a bad device for books and
text, but in reality I have noone heard complaining about the current
resolution yet (even when reading books or surfing the web). 
Of course all of this will be better with higher resolutions, but for
me personally its good enough already now so that it wouldn't make me
buy a new iPad (if I wasn't a developer required to test with it).

From my feeling the improvements possible in our own Apps due to the
higher resolution will be marginal at least, but we'll see.


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Re: [slim] Controller firmware update

2012-02-26 Thread audiomuze

Sorry, I meant SD, not CF.

No idea about the icons though, don't use my Controller much these
days, iPeng's rendered it irrelevant.


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Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !

2012-02-26 Thread pippin

bluegaspode;692716 Wrote: 
 From your words it sounds as if the iPad was a bad device for books and
 text, but in reality I have noone heard complaining about the current
 resolution yet (even when reading books or surfing the web).
 
Seriously? I have heard it a lot.
And while I agree it's a good device for reading and I use it a lot for
that, text pretty much always looks bad to my eyes, it's always either
too blurry or too big.
 
 Of course all of this will be better with higher resolutions, but for
 me personally its good enough already now so that it wouldn't make me
 buy a new iPad (if I wasn't a developer required to test with it).
 
Personally, I mainly felt that the step from iPad 1 to iPad 2 was moot.
If I count in the old cover vs. smart cover I still prefer iPad 1.
 
 From my feeling the improvements possible in our own Apps due to the
 higher resolution will be marginal at least, but we'll see.
I agree on that but then we don't have text apps
The one thing I'm concerned about is how much memory that will use and
how the performance and battery impact is which I would rate as even
more important than the resolution.
After all, the new resolution means you have to cope with 4 times the
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Re: [slim] Can't seem to rescan for new musice/files

2012-02-26 Thread JJZolx

Sounds like something may be corrupted. I would completely clear out the
cache folder and begin rebuilding the database from scratch. You can
find the location of the cache folder at Settings  Information, bottom
of the page. First, stop the server. Delete everything in the cache
folder. Restart the server and it will automatically begin a full
library scan. Then see whether a new  changed scan works correctly.


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Re: [slim] Can't seem to rescan for new musice/files

2012-02-26 Thread shacky

Thanks.  Will try that.


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[slim] Error message table tracks has no column named added_time

2012-02-26 Thread rpieket

I searched the forum for a solution, found several mentions of the
problem, but no actual solution.

My rescan aborts with the following message in the log

[12-02-26 13:19:05.1360] main::main (340) Error: Failed when running
main scan: [Carp::Clan::__ANON__(): DBI Exception: DBD::SQLite::db
prepare_cached failed: table tracks has no column named added_time

As a result, none of my players work. They can no longer see my music
library. No more music in my home. How to proceed?

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Re: [slim] Scanning - Metadata Changes

2012-02-26 Thread pjs

OK, thanks to everyone for the really instructive responses.  I now
understand why I wasn't seeing the song artist being updated.  It was
the ol' Artist vs Album Artist issue.  I had changed the Artist in the
metadata, but I guess the key that's used when you browse music by
artist is the Album Artist, not the Artist.

Actually, that brings up a good point.  If we have a compilation
album:

Album: No Alternative
01. Superdeformed   (Artist = Matthew Sweet, Album Artist = Various
Artists)
02. For All to See  (Artist = Buffalo Tom, Album Artist = Various
Artists)
...
19. Verse Chorus Verse (Artist = Nirvana, Album Artist = Various
Artists)

If I browse the Squeezebox by Artist, I definitely do not want to see a
million Various Artists under V.  So I think we'd want the
Squeezebox to display Artist, not Album Artist in this case.

If we have an artist who has recorded albums under different names:

Surfing On Sine Waves  (Artist = Aphex Twin, Album Artist = Polygon
Window)
Analogue Bubblebath 3  (Artist = Aphex Twin, Album Artist = AFX)
Joyrex J9ii(Artist = Aphex Twin, Album Artist = Caustic
Window)
Rushup Edge(Artist = Aphex Twin, Album Artist = The Tuss)
Richard D. James Album (Artist = Aphex Twin, Album Artist = Aphex
Twin)

I think I'd prefer to see all this under Aphex Twin, the Artist, since
this makes navigation with the Squeezebox remote much easier.

In both cases where there's a distinction between Artist and Album
Artist, I think I prefer Artist.  Is there a way to make the importer
use the Artist as the key and not Album Artist?

Other for our own personal knowledge, is there ever a time when Album
Artist is useful for tagging music?  I really don't care about the fact
that, say, an album was put out by Frank Black or Frank Black and the
Catholics, although I *do* care if it's Frank Black or Pixies.

I know this is pretty anal, and I apologize, but I'm sure many of you
must be as anal as me with tagging your music.  :-)

Thanks!
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Re: [slim] Scanning - Metadata Changes

2012-02-26 Thread Doug Wise
Here is how my workflow has evolved over the years as far as editing tags:

I update the Album, Artist, Genre, Title, Track and Year tags with MP3Tag
I delete all other tags with MP3Tag
I use Foobar2000 to scan and update tags for ReplayGain
I use MusicIP to scan and update the tags for Music IP

Doug


On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 4:30 PM, pjs 
pjs.58ka7b1330291...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com wrote:


 OK, thanks to everyone for the really instructive responses.  I now
 understand why I wasn't seeing the song artist being updated.  It was
 the ol' Artist vs Album Artist issue.  I had changed the Artist in the
 metadata, but I guess the key that's used when you browse music by
 artist is the Album Artist, not the Artist.

 Actually, that brings up a good point.  If we have a compilation
 album:

 Album: No Alternative
 01. Superdeformed   (Artist = Matthew Sweet, Album Artist = Various
 Artists)
 02. For All to See  (Artist = Buffalo Tom, Album Artist = Various
 Artists)
 ...
 19. Verse Chorus Verse (Artist = Nirvana, Album Artist = Various
 Artists)

 If I browse the Squeezebox by Artist, I definitely do not want to see a
 million Various Artists under V.  So I think we'd want the
 Squeezebox to display Artist, not Album Artist in this case.

 If we have an artist who has recorded albums under different names:

 Surfing On Sine Waves  (Artist = Aphex Twin, Album Artist = Polygon
 Window)
 Analogue Bubblebath 3  (Artist = Aphex Twin, Album Artist = AFX)
 Joyrex J9ii(Artist = Aphex Twin, Album Artist = Caustic
 Window)
 Rushup Edge(Artist = Aphex Twin, Album Artist = The Tuss)
 Richard D. James Album (Artist = Aphex Twin, Album Artist = Aphex
 Twin)

 I think I'd prefer to see all this under Aphex Twin, the Artist, since
 this makes navigation with the Squeezebox remote much easier.

 In both cases where there's a distinction between Artist and Album
 Artist, I think I prefer Artist.  Is there a way to make the importer
 use the Artist as the key and not Album Artist?

 Other for our own personal knowledge, is there ever a time when Album
 Artist is useful for tagging music?  I really don't care about the fact
 that, say, an album was put out by Frank Black or Frank Black and the
 Catholics, although I *do* care if it's Frank Black or Pixies.

 I know this is pretty anal, and I apologize, but I'm sure many of you
 must be as anal as me with tagging your music.  :-)

 Thanks!
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Re: [slim] Scanning - Metadata Changes

2012-02-26 Thread aubuti

pjs;692745 Wrote: 
 OK, thanks to everyone for the really instructive responses.  I now
 understand why I wasn't seeing the song artist being updated.  It was
 the ol' Artist vs Album Artist issue.  I had changed the Artist in the
 metadata, but I guess the key that's used when you browse music by
 artist is the Album Artist, not the Artist.
 
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 I know this is pretty anal, and I apologize, but I'm sure many of you
 must be as anal as me with tagging your music.  :-)
The real question is, should anal-retentive be hyphenated or not?

Here is how I would tag the two examples you give.

-*1) Album: No Alternative*-
01. Superdeformed (Artist = Matthew Sweet, Album Artist = [empty],
compilation=1)
02. For All to See (Artist = Buffalo Tom, Album Artist = [empty],
compilation=1)
...
19. Verse Chorus Verse (Artist = Nirvana, Album Artist = [empty],
compilation=1)

If you do it this way, you won't see a million Various Artists under
V. I only ever use ALBUMARTIST on compilations if (a) it's an album
with one performer who is on every (or almost every) track and a lot of
guest artists, such as an album of duets, or (b) a tribute album, with a
lot of different artists playing songs of a particular composer or
group. Otherwise I think the concept of albumartist doesn't make a
whole lot of sense for multi-artist compilations. 


-*2) If we have an artist who has recorded albums under different names
(I think I'd prefer to see all this under Aphex Twin, the Artist, since
this makes navigation with the Squeezebox remote much easier.):*-
Surfing On Sine Waves (Artist = Polygon Window, Album Artist = Aphex
Twin)
Analogue Bubblebath 3 (Artist = AFX, Album Artist = Aphex Twin)
Joyrex J9ii (Artist = Caustic Window, Album Artist = Aphex Twin)
Rushup Edge (Artist = The Tuss, Album Artist = Aphex Twin)
Richard D. James Album (Artist = Aphex Twin, Album Artist = Aphex
Twin)

Yes, that's right, exactly the opposite of what you have now (except
maybe the 5th one). LMS will group all of them together under the
ALBUMARTIST Aphex Twin when you are browsing, but when something is
playing it will display the ARTIST tag in Now Playing, so you see which
incarnation of RDJ you're listening to.


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Re: [slim] Scanning - Metadata Changes

2012-02-26 Thread JJZolx

pjs;692745 Wrote: 
 If we have a compilation album:
 
 Album: No Alternative
 01. Superdeformed   (Artist = Matthew Sweet, Album Artist = Various
 Artists)
 02. For All to See  (Artist = Buffalo Tom, Album Artist = Various
 Artists)
 ...
 19. Verse Chorus Verse (Artist = Nirvana, Album Artist = Various
 Artists)
 
 If I browse the Squeezebox by Artist, I definitely do not want to see a
 million Various Artists under V.  So I think we'd want the
 Squeezebox to display Artist, not Album Artist in this case.

You won't see a million artists under 'V', but you will see all of your
compilation albums under 'V' and 'Various Artists'.

Play with it a while longer and see how it works for you, but it's
generally best to not give compilation albums an ALBUMARTIST of
'Various Artists'. It's best to tag them with a COMPILATION=1 field and
leave the ALBUMARTIST field off of these albums. It's a _long_ story
why, but for now just call it a quirk of how the server handles
compilations.


 
 If we have an artist who has recorded albums under different names:
 
 Surfing On Sine Waves  (Artist = Aphex Twin, Album Artist = Polygon
 Window)
 Analogue Bubblebath 3  (Artist = Aphex Twin, Album Artist = AFX)
 Joyrex J9ii(Artist = Aphex Twin, Album Artist = Caustic
 Window)
 Rushup Edge(Artist = Aphex Twin, Album Artist = The Tuss)
 Richard D. James Album (Artist = Aphex Twin, Album Artist = Aphex
 Twin)
 
 I think I'd prefer to see all this under Aphex Twin, the Artist, since
 this makes navigation with the Squeezebox remote much easier.
 
 In both cases where there's a distinction between Artist and Album
 Artist, I think I prefer Artist.  Is there a way to make the importer
 use the Artist as the key and not Album Artist?
 

If you tag them like that, the albums will be listed under 'Aphex Twin'
when you browse by artist. When browsing artists, an album can appear
under many different artists. When browsing albums sorted by artist,
however, the album only appears once in the list. If you want it under
'Aphex Twin' then you need to either set ALBUMARTIST to 'Aphex Twin' or
else leave off the ALBUMARTIST tag. As you've correctly figured out,
ALBUMARTIST takes precedence over ARTIST as the album's artist, both
for sorting and for display purposes.

 Other for our own personal knowledge, is there ever a time when Album
 Artist is useful for tagging music?  I really don't care about the fact
 that, say, an album was put out by Frank Black or Frank Black and the
 Catholics, although I *do* care if it's Frank Black or Pixies.

I don't use it like that. I tag all Tom Petty albums with 'Tom Petty',
regardless of whether or not he recorded the album with the
Heartbreakers. What I do use ALBUMARTIST for is albums that have tracks
with guest artists, whether performing by themselves or with the album
artist.


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Re: [slim] Error message table tracks has no column named added_time

2012-02-26 Thread Mnyb

Delete the servers cache folder , stop LMS first ( location can be found
in the web-UI on th info page )

If you are on windows there is a clean cache function in the control
panel, this wipes the whole dB file.


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Re: [slim] Android Controller App

2012-02-26 Thread lindazbn

Tablet PCs offer many of the same amenities as traditional PCs,
including Internet. With a Tablet PC, users are able to handwrite blogs
or chat posts, a convenient alternative for many writers and
web-junkies.
With fast Internet access,Best Tablet PCs can also be used for
pen-based gaming similar to that of the popular pen-based Nintendo DS.


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[slim] Napster transfer to Rhapsody - what should we do?

2012-02-26 Thread JonWill

Hi all,

As has been noted previously Napster UK is closing down.  I have been a
happy customer of the £5 unlimited streaming and 5MP3 package for
several years, but this will be no more.  I have checked with Napster
and the £5 per month Napster Unilimited package will not stream to
Squeezeboxes, so my options seem to be:

- Stick with Napster, pay £10 a month for 128Kbps streams, lose my MP3s
but gain mobile access which I don't need ... but know everything will
work (probably)

- Move to Spotify with 320KBps streams for £10pm.  However, as I
understand it only the official plug in will allow different
Squeezeboxes to play their own Spotify streams.  As I have a
combination of players can I use the 3rd part plug in alongside it and
have different streams in different rooms that way?

Is there any other option people are considering?  I'm a bit peeved
that I will have to pay double to get less - but wouldn't mind better
sound quality along the way ...

I's be very interested in people's thoughts...


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