Re: [slim] Calling Sean Adams?
Please stop this discussion, none of the people here have any clue what you are talking about. You only have the outside view of it, you have no idea how the profit and solvency for the Squeezebox business looked at the end in Slim Devices and how it looked within Logitech during the period when they shutdown Squeezeboxes. You have no idea why Logitech acquired Slim Devices and you have no idea why Slim Devices decided that it was a good idea to be acquired by Logitech, maybe the alternative was bankruptcy and let the Squeezebox die already 2006, we simply don't know. You have no idea how the Logitech organization works inside, I'm pretty sure it's not the people that manage the Squeezebox unit that made the decision to acquire Slim Devices, this is typically a decision that's taken a lot higher up in the organization. In big organizations a typical problem is that the goal/vision of the top level management doesn't always flow down properly in the organization to people on the floor knows the vision/goal and is able to fulfill the vision/goal. It might be easy to think that the reason one company acquire another is mainly that they like their product and want to take it to the next step, but in many cases there are a lot of other aspects that could be of interest also. I'm not defending what Logitech has done with the Squeezebox, I'm just saying that we have no idea if Logitech and Slim Devices executives still think it was worth the trouble or not, we can't just assume that it's a failure because they decided change the name of the brand after a few years. Also, please realize that it might feel like Logitech has shutdown Squeezeboxes but in reality what they have done is changed the name of the brand and tried to take it to the next step of a journey they believe is the right one. Just look at the hardware of the UE Smart Radio, it's almost exactly the same as a Squeezebox Radio, then take a look at the software/firmware in the UE Smart Radio solution, also that is based on the Squeezebox software/firmware and when taking a look at it, it's also in many parts identical. They have changed a few things and disabled some functionality which they don't think fits in their new strategy, but in many ways it's based on Squeezebox. Do you think Logitech would have been able to release the UE Smart Radio without the acquisition of Logitech, I certainly don't. Without people from Slim Devices they would likely have released another AirPlay speaker or possibly a UPnP player or Reciva chip based radio. To do something like this, a name change is necessary, because it would have been very strange to release a new Squeezebox which isn't compatible with the others. They might also have realize that there is too much geek history in the Squeezebox brand so to be able to reach the mass market they needed to change the name even if Squeezebox brand was established. Now, this doesn't mean I think they've done the right things, I think many of he things they have done during last years including the UE Smart Radio is the wrong move, I'm just saying that there could be reasons for it and one of the reason is probably that many people in this community (including me) no longer is the main target for the UE Smart Radio device. For people who are in the new target group, the move they did with UE Smart Radio might be a big step in the right direction, but we don't know that because we don't have a clue what their long term strategy really is. Finally, this whole thread is a bit silly, Sean/Dean is not to be blamed for what Logitech has done with the Squeezebox, Sean/Dean will not come back and save Squeezebox and even if they wanted to Logitech wouldn't allow them, so let's just stop this discussion here and now and focus on the reality: - Your Squeezebox works exactly as good today as it did last week before the announcement - Your Squeezebox is going to work great also for the next 12 months, probably longer - Due to this there is no reason to worry at the moment, instead look forward to the exiting future where somebody will fill the hole left by Logitech with something which are actively developed. If there is a need and a market, there is a possibility for someone to do business and then this usually happens, it just requires some time. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96213 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
I had been planning on getting another one anyway so I could add another room synched to my main stereo. I figure as long as I have copies of LMS and Touch firmware, there is no reason a SB system can't work off a Local LMS server for many years. Yes, if MySB goes down, some features will be lost, but at least the multi-room streaming/synching, the random play feature, and general local music library serving features will remain. So as far as serving your local music library, it doesn't look like much will change for many years, as long as the HW doesn't break down. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Calling Sean Adams?
I agree it's too bad they are not advancing the Squeezeboxes. I didn't read the whole thread, but I did read a Logitech document about a year ago where they stated that the market growth for Squeezebox type devices is in the SB radio device type segment, and that was the market they were going for. Nowhere did it say there was any growth in high end audio. Gadgety1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96213 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Calling Sean Adams?
jmschnur wrote: A lot of touches out there. There might be some $$ in it to keep my squeezebox alive after the last warranty expires. Either by Logitech or someone who aquires the rights. Time will tell. I think it is Logitech or nothing. It's a niche hardware product which will not interest many as a business. Nor would Logitech likely be willing to sell the rights anyway, should there be any such interested party. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96213 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Calling Sean Adams?
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote: The point is in hindsight ,the sale of Slim devices to Logitech was a terrible fit . Would you or anyone on this forum disagree with that ? Would a single top exec from Slim Devices disagree with that At the present time ? It made a great deal of sense at the time of the sale. SB is a computer based network consumer device, exactly what Logitech does. Add in Logitech's existing worldwide distribution channels of technology and it really makes sense. The fact they botched it through poor marketing and numerous management reshuffles is where they went astray. For SlimDevices it obviously made sense as well, or they would not have sold it. As to the real (or most compelling) reason why? Who knows. Maybe it was as simple as the fact that Logitech brought the largest wallet to the table. My guess is that this garage startup company (SlimDevices) was stretched to the max in resources competing globally against some very big goliaths (like Logitech) and it was one of three options for them. 1) Sell. 2) Get a large cash infusion and double down 3) Let it die a slow death. The real reasons are only known to the parties involved. Maybe Sean just wanted to go fishing. :) toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96213 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Calling Sean Adams?
toby10 wrote: I think it is Logitech or nothing. It's a niche hardware product which will not interest many as a business. Nor would Logitech likely be willing to sell the rights anyway, should there be any such interested party. Especially when they finally realize that it is better than their own current UE offering ;) chuckle Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96213 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] CBC Music - doesn't work via SB but does via PC
RonM wrote: I did have a conversation with a CBC guy. They have definitely geo-fenced the CBC Music streams ( the 40 odd channels of various music genres), but have not done so for the live radio streams. I was sure that they hadn't geo-genced the Concerts On Demand, these are now being handled in a different way than they used to be. The old OPML files which were distributed a while back don't work any more. I just obtained the URL for the first song of the Kate McGarrigle tribute concert. I can play this from within the SB system, after saving it to favourites, so unless it's geo-fenced it should be available to anyone. the URL is: http://static.music.cbc.ca/v2/concerts/3/3795/tracks/Kiss-And-Say-Goodbye.mp3?r=0.2866975236684084 I have not figured out a way to play the whole concert from a single URL. However, you can create a playlist that can be played in a continuous form, and all the tracks could be added to a single playlist. Interested to find if folks outside of Canada can access this via favorites in SB. Ron R. It plays for me outside Canada - you can drop the address after the mp3. If only there was a way to get the whole stream - that's the concert I'm after! castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96261 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Would you pay for LMS - Subscription or One-Time?
I've seen references to this in other posts (Erland), but nothing direct, so I wondered.. To my mind, whereas I don't fully understand the logic behind Logitech's actions, I do understand that something had to change. With low cost Android and iDevice players able to hang off LMS (and just about anything else), Logitech had lost the lock-in and the opportunity to sell a lot more devices. Software is hugely profitable so why not sell LMS either via an annual fee, or as a one-time license including a commitment to support for x years? New players could come with 2 years subscription. There is clearly demand for players out there (the channel is drying up rapidly). It's always seemed dumb to me that SBS/LMS was free and increasingly so of late. A lot of people resent paying for software but I don't see the issue, and if enough of us are prepared to pay for LMS then it could still survive and make Logitech some money. There are plenty of subscription models that they could implement too - even down to charging a few dollars a year for each player (or emulated player) that is attached to MSB.com (thus protecting my investment in older technology and giving them a regular income to keep MSB.com alive). yeomanspc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=249 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96266 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Would you pay for LMS - Subscription or One-Time?
yeomanspc wrote: I've seen references to this in other posts (Erland), but nothing direct, so I wondered.. To my mind, whereas I don't fully understand the logic behind Logitech's actions, I do understand that something had to change. With low cost Android and iDevice players able to hang off LMS (and just about anything else), Logitech had lost the lock-in and the opportunity to sell a lot more devices. Software is hugely profitable so why not sell LMS either via an annual fee, or as a one-time license including a commitment to support for x years? New players could come with 2 years subscription. There is clearly demand for players out there (the channel is drying up rapidly). It's always seemed dumb to me that SBS/LMS was free and increasingly so of late. A lot of people resent paying for software but I don't see the issue, and if enough of us are prepared to pay for LMS then it could still survive and make Logitech some money. There are plenty of subscription models that they could implement too - even down to charging a few dollars a year for each player (or emulated player) that is attached to MSB.com (thus protecting my investment in older technology and giving them a regular income to keep MSB.com alive). Well Yes but then I would have much higher demands of that it is actually working as advertised and better control/information regarding privacy issues . And that it would be the s.o.t.a off the streaming business and add new services asap as they exist, not as now lag for years when something new is up , say a new service each month until we are back on top and then as they naturally occur ? Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96266 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Would you pay for LMS - Subscription or One-Time?
I asked this before at end of 2010: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?83986-Would-you-be-willing-to-pay-for-Squeezebox-Server Of course, people might think differently now when Logitech has stopped producing devices named Squeezebox, but I thought I'd post the link since it might be interesting to see what people thought almost 2 years ago. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96266 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Would you pay for LMS - Subscription or One-Time?
erland wrote: I asked this before at end of 2010: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?83986-Would-you-be-willing-to-pay-for-Squeezebox-Server Of course, people might think differently now when Logitech has stopped producing devices named Squeezebox, but I thought I'd post the link since it might be interesting to see what people thought almost 2 years ago. Yes Logitechs latest move is game changing , one must reconsider a lot of things . A lot of things can happen in a couple of years right now I'm in wait and see mode won't do anything re my squeezeboxes for now... Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96266 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Would you pay for LMS - Subscription or One-Time?
If I could be assured someone would just keep the basic features working longtime. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96266 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squeezeslave: 1.2 released
ralphy wrote: aplay doesn't manipulate the ALSA driver like portaudio does, so this is not a fair test. Any other test which I could do, when it hangs? Never heard of portaudio before your post, so I don't know how to do it. ralphy wrote: Have you modified squeezeslave to open the device at the 46875 sample rate? That's more than the 1% currently defined. Searched the settings of squeezeslave but didn't found any option which seems to set the sample-rate, so, no I haven't modiefied it. How can I do this? ralphy wrote: Have you built squeezeslave from the latest trunk on the hardware you're using? If not, I'd suggest starting there. Also search all the past squeezeslave release support threads as this has been discussed at length in the past. Now yet, but since today Trunk-376 is in testing. report will follow... Thx Benno benno's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57012 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93607 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Would you pay for LMS - Subscription or One-Time?
erland wrote: I asked this before at end of 2010: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?83986-Would-you-be-willing-to-pay-for-Squeezebox-Server Of course, people might think differently now when Logitech has stopped producing devices named Squeezebox, but I thought I'd post the link since it might be interesting to see what people thought almost 2 years ago. Yes, I definitely would pay the $12 a year to keep the SBS running. My friends have paid for your Trackstat as well. Cut-Throat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43167 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96266 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What features will no longer work if mysqueezebox.com is shut down?
Without mysqueezebox.com I assume that the Logitech Squeezebox controller for Android won't work. When I open the application, the first requested step is to login to mysqueezebox.com! I hope that at least Squeeze Commander will work without a mysqueezebox.com account... sansui's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What steps does community need to take to ensure continued function of SB players
I suppose Logitech might have a change of heart - they have the UE Radios for the consumer electronics end of the market, but the software exists for a broader and deeper range of products. Personally, I never saw the sense of the Touch with its flashy screen - it fell between the cracks. What I would love is a cheap Receiver to set against the Apple Airport Express - a tiny box for under £100 to effect high quality streaming with no frills. Surely, keeping those in the inventory for a few years would not be too much to ask of a big company like Logitech. Such a receiver could serve a lounge HiFi, and could sell more consumer boxes to receiver purchasers for use in kitchens and bedrooms. If they also marketed decent active or powered pair of speakers to go with the receiver that would cover other options, and such speakers could also be sold as quality PC speakers. And, of course, any smartphone could control the system. Labarum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96208 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Would you pay for LMS - Subscription or One-Time?
Sure. Logical step as we go on. J jmschnur's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96266 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Would you pay for LMS - Subscription or One-Time?
I would pay for it. I like to keep Rhapsody and other music services. jo-wie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17952 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96266 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Would you pay for LMS - Subscription or One-Time?
I would be more than willing to pay a yearly fee to keep using the service. Five to Ten dollars a month seems more than fair price. With 8TB of music I have few options. Transporter: 3 Squeezebox's DrFiles47's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11951 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96266 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] This is how Microsoft handles end-of-life
From Microsoft's website: 6. Why are you defining the Support Lifecycle policy? Customers have asked Microsoft to be consistent and to demonstrate predictability. The Support Lifecycle policy establishes a clear and predictable policy for product support timelines. The policy helps customers and partners manage their support requirements. The policy also allows both product planning and information technology planning in organizations based on knowledge of the support timelines for Microsoft products. 7. How was the Support Lifecycle policy developed? Microsoft worked closely with Microsoft product teams, with customers, with partners, with leading analysts, and with research firms to determine clear and consistent policies. http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96270 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Would you pay for LMS - Subscription or One-Time?
Without hesitation: yes. I suspect some of the enterprising engineers among us would find a way to make the software work with other devices after SBs finally start giving out. Heck, the same day Logitech made its announcement concerning UE succeeding SB, another firm introduced products based on Squeezebox. Makes me hopeful that LMS can have a life beyond SB. GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96266 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Would you pay for LMS - Subscription or One-Time?
A yearly fee of not more than 12 dollars seems reasonable if some development is being done. @DrFiles47: Up to 10 dollars a month is insane, there you could afford 1 or 2 decent subscriptions to online music services serving millions of tracks :) wom's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35980 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96266 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What steps does community need to take to ensure continued function of SB players
I'm not sure a cheap Receiver is in the cards, at least not if the initial branding efforts are any indication. It seems they want UE to be Logitech's more upscale audio brand, so I suspect you'll see products designed to produce higher margins than an inexpensive Receiver might bring. GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96208 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What steps does community need to take to ensure continued function of SB players
GeeJay wrote: I'm not sure a cheap Receiver is in the cards Then that leaves me in the same position as before the announcement: why buy a SB Touch for £200 when I can get a small format PC with S/PDIF out for the same price? Labarum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96208 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What steps does community need to take to ensure continued function of SB players
Labarum wrote: Then that leaves me in the same position as before the announcement: why buy a SB Touch for £200 when I can get a small format PC with S/PDIF out for the same price? No good answer, other than Logitech may figure it can sell many more units of the higher-end product to people who want something that is easier to use with fewer features than we have come to expect. GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96208 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Would you pay for LMS - Subscription or One-Time?
erland wrote: I asked this before at end of 2010: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?83986-Would-you-be-willing-to-pay-for-Squeezebox-Server Of course, people might think differently now when Logitech has stopped producing devices named Squeezebox, but I thought I'd post the link since it might be interesting to see what people thought almost 2 years ago. I said yes to this back then. With the lack of marketing by Logitech for the SB line it seemed highly probable that this could be a route worth exploring. Unfortunately I have no programming knowledge whatsoever to do anything about it. There are some very capable people on these forums though... Would be good to get some kind of heads up if somebody is considering something like this. Trev gruntwolla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96266 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Would you pay for LMS - Subscription or One-Time?
gruntwolla wrote: I said yes to this back then. With the lack of marketing by Logitech for the SB line it seemed highly probable that this could be a route worth exploring. Unfortunately I have no programming knowledge whatsoever to do anything about it. There are some very capable people on these forums though... Would be good to get some kind of heads up if somebody is considering something like this. Trev I imagine most folks want to wait a little while to at least see what the UE software can support. After all, it hasn't even been a week yet. GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96266 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What steps does community need to take to ensure continued function of SB players
Labarum wrote: I suppose Logitech might have a change of heart - they have the UE Radios for the consumer electronics end of the market, but the software exists for a broader and deeper range of products. Personally, I never saw the sense of the Touch with its flashy screen - it fell between the cracks. I guess they launched the Duet at just the time when smartphones were taking off and folk discovered they could do a better job than the official Logitech Controller. Instead of modifying the Receiver as a stand alone product they went too wizzy with the Touch. I'm sure we can blame the marketing men for that. What I would love is a cheap Receiver to set against the Apple Airport Express - a tiny box for under £100 to effect high quality streaming with no frills. Surely, keeping such a simple box in the inventory for a few years would not be too much to ask of a big company like Logitech. A receiver could serve a lounge HiFi, and could give consumers reason to buy UE radios for use in kitchens and bedrooms. If they also marketed decent active or powered pair of speakers to go with the receiver that would cover other options, and such speakers could also be sold as quality PC speakers. And, of course, any smartphone could control the system. I think the introduction of the Touch was an attempt to fill a niche with the non-techy part of the public. I never really understood why Logitech didn't produce their own NAS-type music server box, but the Touch at least promised to offer direct attachment of a local music library. I haven't tried that personally (only had a Touch for about 9 days! - an I had LMS 7.7.2 up and running), but I understand TinyLMS with a local HD was problematic for some. Robert Grumpy Bob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96208 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Would you pay for LMS - Subscription or One-Time?
GeeJay wrote: I imagine most folks want to wait a little while to at least see what the UE software can support. After all, it hasn't even been a week yet. Fair comment. gruntwolla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96266 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Would you pay for LMS - Subscription or One-Time?
wom wrote: A yearly fee of not more than 12 dollars seems reasonable if some development is being done. @DrFiles47: Up to 10 dollars a month is insane, there you could afford 1 or 2 decent subscriptions to online music services serving millions of tracks :) I subscribe to MOG which has over 15 million tracks..But I want to run it via LMS, without LMS the interface is pretty lame. Cut-Throat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43167 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96266 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What features will no longer work if mysqueezebox.com is shut down?
I believe almost all 3rd party Apps (except that one that was only a wrapper around the MySB web interface) will work without MySB. iPeng, SqueezeCommander, SqueezePad and OrangeSqueeze definitely do. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What steps does community need to take to ensure continued function of SB players
Labarum wrote: Then that leaves me in the same position as before the announcement: why buy a SB Touch for £200 when I can get a small format PC with S/PDIF out for the same price? Exactly. Or one of several £100 media players which provide a digital out? pallfreeman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37667 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96208 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] HTTP/1.0 401 Unauthorized when listening to Sirius
I started getting HTTP/1.0 401 Unauthorized messages after some indeterministic amount of time listening to Sirius on my SB Touch connecting through a local SB server. A friend of mine is also have the same issue using a SB Radio connecting directly to MySBS. I just changed my credentials on Sirius, so I *know* nobody else is listening at the same time. Even if they were, the error that I would get would be You are no longer authorized to listen. Eventually, the music starts playing again, but this is quite annoying, and my wife finds it even MORE annoying. I tried rebooting the local SBS, but to not avail. Is anyone else experiencing this, or have a solution? tebrown's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96273 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] This is how Microsoft handles end-of-life
Good link. In fact, all reputable IT companies have a policy for product discontinuance, and many provide a transition path and even support (paid for) for 5 - 7 years after discontinuance. yeomanspc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=249 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96270 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What features will no longer work if mysqueezebox.com is shut down?
TheLastMan wrote: Go into any Currys or decent department store and you will see a dedicated Sonos display. You never saw a SB Touch and the odd branch may have had the Radio - randomly stuck in amongst the iPod docks - if you were lucky. I bought all my kit mail order. Only a few independent retailers ever stocked the full range. At one point every PCWorld that I went into had Touches and Radios on display, before you saw Sonos in the same places (at the same time John Lewis also had both the Touch and Radio in display). But unfortunately they weren't displayed well, like the rest of the Internet enabled devices in most shops they didn't even have a wifi connection setup. andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB Alternatives
Try pairing an iPod with iPeng player software with http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1070BW5394 Feed the HDMI into the appropriate component audio via HDMI! jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96241 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB Alternatives
Sorry. if it requires purchase of an Apple product I am not interested. dasmueller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38035 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96241 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What steps does community need to take to ensure continued function of SB players
Labarum wrote: Then that leaves me in the same position as before the announcement: why buy a SB Touch for £200 when I can get a small format PC with S/PDIF out for the same price? I'm probably forgetting a few things, but: - much better sound quality than a PC's onboard audio, without a pressing need for an external S/PDIF or USB DAC - better S/PDIF, with lower jitter - MUCH better audio syncing with other Squeezeboxes - IR remote control giving instant ability to skip, repeat, shuffle, change volume, as well select music, without a need for a smart phone, tablet or other wifi device - touch control, with no need to even find the remote - a color display of what's playing - very low energy use You can get some of this functionality with a PC and smart phone or other wifi device, but it _requires_ using the wifi device. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96208 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What steps does community need to take to ensure continued function of SB players
JJZolx wrote: I'm probably forgetting a few things, but: - much better sound quality than a PC's onboard audio, without a pressing need for an external S/PDIF or USB DAC - better S/PDIF, with lower jitter - MUCH better audio syncing with other Squeezeboxes - IR remote control giving instant ability to skip, repeat, shuffle, change volume, as well select music, without a need for a smart phone, tablet or other wifi device - touch control, with no need to even find the remote - a color display of what's playing - very low energy use You can get some of this functionality with a PC and smart phone or other wifi device, but it _requires_ using the wifi device. I accept that. The only one to interest me is the quality of the S/PDIF connection. I could ditch my SB Classic and replace it with a 10m optical cable! Labarum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96208 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
