castalla wrote:
Today's SB outage gives us a taste of the future without MySB.com.
Squeezebox maintained by Logitech isn't the long term future, we just
need it to live long enough until someone else (or Logitech) comes up
with something better, hopefully Logitech will keep MySB.com alive
castalla wrote:
At the very least, Tunein should be independent of mysb.com. As far as
I know, Tunein on other systems is not dependent on a 3rd party
connection?
It's not a problem to have third party streaming services depending on a
central cloud server, if the software isn't
You are entirely right.
I think you'll find that most here think that Logitech's decision to
make services on their players dependent on MSB was an atrocious one.
At the time they made it (during development of the radio?) All the beta
testers advised against it. I don't think that anyone save
Logitech and music(audiophil): RIP
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Sad to see that UE, as a top brand in Pro Audio, does not have a
audiophile player and we have to deal with a crappy transistor radio to
play the carefully selected flac file's. So Meredian it would me say
goodbye to Logitech RIP squeezebox :-(
plus one ! Now it is not possible to play any radiostation at all
!!!
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This is strange. I have tested to make sure mysb.com is down in Ireland
and it is but with a Local LMS, I can search and play station via the
Tune-in menu on LMS web page and from Touch Tune-in App.
I wonder what is different between our two setups ?
Are you insing Tune-in Favorites ?
Is there
I wonder what is different between our two setups ?
On mysb.com there are various daemons running. One is dealing with the
player control (slimproto), one is dealing with cometd on the players, and
the third is the web service providing access to the music services. If
this latter is up,
bpa wrote:
This is strange. I have tested to make sure mysb.com is down in Ireland
and it is but with a Local LMS, I can search and play station via the
Tune-in menu on LMS web page and from Touch Tune-in App.
I wonder what is different between our two setups ?
Are you insing Tune-in
ModelCitizen wrote:
I think you'll find that most here think that Logitech's decision to
make the functionality of their players so heavily dependent on MSB was
an atrocious one.
At the time they made it (during development of the duet, radio?) All
the beta testers advised against it. I
If you bought a Radio, got it out of the box, and it JUST connected to
MSB, would that not be almost the same as UE - except that maybe UE has
some different user interface/is a bit more user friendly?
Then there is a menu option somewhere to enable the full squeezebox
experience. Those people
As part oif my test I did a search for BBC and played Radio Ulster OK
and I just rested with Radio 4 and it played OK with WMA 48kbps.
Since the problem is with the WMA stream this looks like the BBC geo
locking problem which Andyg had done some special work for UK users when
playing through
They can't operate as both a SB Radio and a UE Radio by a simple menu
function.
It's one or the other requiring a completely separate firmware (OS) for
each type.
Not that many would not like your idea, as has been suggested before.
But it's just not possible.
bpa wrote:
As part oif my test I did a search for BBC and played Radio Ulster OK
and I just rested with Radio 4 and it played OK with WMA 48kbps.
Since the problem is with the WMA stream this looks like the BBC geo
locking problem which Andyg had done some special work for UK users when
ModelCitizen wrote:
... Logitech's decision to make the functionality of their players so
heavily dependent on MSB was an atrocious one.
... I don't think that anyone save some stupid Logitech manager thought
it was a good idea.
... it is the sort of short-sighted, short-term,
Is it possible to connect a smartphone, as an input source, to the
Squeezebox Touch? I was thinking that, post-mysb.com, if one could
connect an old smartphone which can play TuneIn Radio or Spotify or any
other service, then one could remotely control that phone with ones
other smartphone. Is it
andynormancx wrote:
[snip]
The Sony is indeed a bargain, but there -are- reasons it is much cheaper
than the iPod (beyond purely Apple's higher profit margins).
When it comes down to it the iPod touch isn't really competing with the
Sony. People who want a 32GB MP3 player/Internet device
bpa wrote:
This is strange. I have tested to make sure mysb.com is down in Ireland
and it is but with a Local LMS, I can search and play station via the
Tune-in menu on LMS web page and from Touch Tune-in App.
I wonder what is different between our two setups ?
Are you insing Tune-in
castalla wrote:
You're in Eire, aren't you? So, your streams aren't geo-locked?
All BBC stream have some geolocking. The BBC have UK and Non UK stream
(i.e. lower speed or not at all). UK user cannot play non UK streams and
vice versa.
As the BBC sees me - I am not in UK so I get a 48kbps
castalla wrote:
Today's SB outage gives us a taste of the future without MySB.com.
Switching to local LMS, the only radio app which I could use was BBC
iPlayer. Tunein is crippled and can't get playable streams.
I didn't test other apps plugins but it was a frustrating
I've been using the preview version exclusively since it's been made
available. Overall, I've found it stable and improved. A couple of
things I've noticed:
1) I can't use rhapsody. I can search and navigate my rhapsody library,
but when I select something to play, it doesn't do anything.
2)
I really miss the alarm functionality too.
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ButC wrote:
Is it possible to connect a smartphone, as an input source, to the
Squeezebox Touch?
no
ButC wrote:
be easier to just attach the old smartphone directly to the
receiver, wouldn't it?
yes
bpa wrote:
All BBC stream have some geolocking. The BBC have UK and Non UK stream
(i.e. lower speed or not at all). UK user cannot play non UK streams and
vice versa.
As the BBC sees me - I am not in UK so I get a 48kbps WMA stream.
Compared to my log - Your log has these extra
logitech-leaves-squeezebox-fans-wondering-whats-next
This article on cnet has freaked me out... My squeezebox radio is quite
new and I m quite attached to it
Please someone tell me the server will be alive and kicking for more
than the 3-6 months logitech seems to imply on cnet
Couldn t we
This has been covered extensively in these forums, keep reading. ;)
Nutshell:
LMS server development continues, for how long noone knows.
SB Radio can be upgraded to UE Radio, but has severe limitations over
your current LMS MySB.com experience.
castalla wrote:
As long as I can get BBC in some format, I'm not too fussed! It's just
other family members get very annoyed when 'It isn't working, again!'
and I have to fiddle around switching things!
Where could I look for caching?
Caching may nor may not be the solution and so I
toby10 wrote:
This has been covered extensively in these forums, keep reading. ;)
Nutshell:
LMS server development continues, for how long noone knows.
SB Radio can be upgraded to UE Radio, but has severe limitations over
your current LMS MySB.com experience.
and the current version of
castalla wrote:
You are too sanguine! How many ordinary Radio users:
1. Have LMS installed on a local server?
2. Have any idea what stream url they need to enter in the appropriate
section of LMS?
At the very least, Tunein should be independent of mysb.com. As far as
I know,
Does any one know how long this problem will continue? My SB won´t play
any thing at the moment.
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This article on cnet has freaked me out... My squeezebox radio is quite
new and I m quite attached to it
Please someone tell me the server will be alive and kicking for more
than the 3-6 months logitech seems to imply on cnet
Couldn t we
bpa wrote:
LMS Tunein without mysb.com works OK for me - at the moment this
problem seems to isolated to Tune-in playing BBC station by UK users
unless other users have more info.
Just tried various stations - I'm in the UK.
Can't connect to mysb, but any stations I tried worked including
maggior wrote:
I've been using the preview version exclusively since it's been made
available. Overall, I've found it stable and improved. A couple of
things I've noticed:
1) I can't use rhapsody. I can search and navigate my rhapsody library,
but when I select something to play, it
erland wrote:
It's not a problem to have third party streaming services depending on a
central cloud server, if the software isn't maintained it doesn't matter
if it's installed on your local device/computer or in a central cloud
server, if it isn't maintained it will stop working either
charlotte wrote:
Please reassure me
Can't be done it seems, you simply seem hell bent on spreading your
unfounded FUD wihtout any regard to available information or the replies
you've alreade gotten on this forum.
Mnyb wrote:
Yes it will , if the central server goes down it's dead for everyone if
it runs locally on everyone's server a failure only affects one machine
, the slow death of lack maintainnance is another issue .
Correct, but it would really just make it work a bit longer, if it's not
I'm new to the forum as I had only recently bought a SB Radio Touch
after many years of thinking of getting an SB device. Can't believe how
it's turned out!
I mainly listen to Spotify but also a couple of Internet stations
including 6 Music - Can anyone shed any light on the following:
1) I
charlotte wrote:
logitech-leaves-squeezebox-fans-wondering-whats-next
This article on cnet has freaked me out... My squeezebox radio is quite
new and I m quite attached to it
Please someone tell me the server will be alive and kicking for more
than the 3-6 months logitech seems to
Spotify use triodes spotify plugin for the LMS server ,but configure it
to show up in the radios menu instead of apps .
This should work even today, drat ! That I did not took the opportunity
to try when mysb.com was down.
With the recent MySB outage it raises my concern about the Duet setup
process requiring access to MySB.com to complete setup! I would hope
that Logitech will remove this requirement from the Duet firmware so
that a Duet can be set up without MySB.com access. Or, does Logitech
plan on stranding us
oddball wrote:
1) I get that the Radio stations could still be accessed directly by url
but what solutions are there for Spotify support if MySB.com goes down
or is pulled completely?
There is a third party Spotify which you can install in LMS running on a
computer on your local network,
Mnyb wrote:
Spotify use triodes spotify plugin for the LMS server ,but configure it
to show up in the radios menu instead of apps .
This should work even today, drat ! That I did not took the opportunity
to try when mysb.com was down.
At the moment when I test my Network connection on the
oddball wrote:
If I can't connect am I able to install the Triode Spotify Plugin?
You might have to configure his repository URL directly since the
default repository url's are hosted on mysqueezebox.com at the moment.
His direct repository url is:
Code:
oddball wrote:
At the moment when I test my Network connection on the either device it
says that the connection to mysqueezebox.com is not ok
(understatement!) - Is the connection working for others?
If I can't connect am I able to install the Triode Spotify Plugin?
Ok I already have it
erland wrote:
There is a third party Spotify which you can install in LMS running on a
computer on your local network, this will work without mysqueezebox.com.
Would ideally like a solution that would not require running a local
server
erland wrote:
I can't go into any details regarding
This is Dudley from the Logitech UE Product team. Logitech is
experiencing some technical issues with the mysqueezebox infrastructure
in Europe, where some users have only limited access. We apologize to
our users for the inconvenience and are working on resolving this issue
as a priority.
bonze wrote:
Just tried various stations - I'm in the UK.
Can't connect to mysb, but any stations I tried worked including some
BBC.
I tried via saved favourites and via the menu, Radio Local London
All Stations.
BBC2, BBC4, BBC6 all worked OK - reported as File format: AAC
alfista wrote:
Can't be done it seems, you simply seem hell bent on spreading your
unfounded FUD wihtout any regard to available information or the replies
you've alreade gotten on this forum.
I am sorry i offended you somehow... I never saw any reply nor did i
recieve a mail saying there
erland wrote:
http://blog.logitech.com/2012/09/28/an-open-letter-to-squeezebox-fans
http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Squeezebox-Players/Logitech-UE-Smart-Radio/td-p/884530
At this time, there are no plans to stop maintaining mysqueezebox.com or
the local server, parts of the CNET article is
FUD = Fear - Uncertainty and Doubt.
I first heard the term back in the 70's from vendors trying to compete
with IBM in the mainframe market place.
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toby10 wrote:
This has been covered extensively in these forums, keep reading. ;)
Nutshell:
LMS server development continues, for how long noone knows.
SB Radio can be upgraded to UE Radio, but has severe limitations over
your current LMS MySB.com experience.
I bought a UE Radio as an
w3wilkes wrote:
FUD = Fear - Uncertainty and Doubt.
I first heard the term back in the 70's from vendors trying to compete
with IBM in the mainframe market place.
Ok. Fair enough I feared it was an f word... Reassured again,
apparently it can be done!!!
Interesting comments on the VortexBox forums from one of the admins
there about Logitech's possible intention of future server software
supporting both sets of products (UE and squeezebox):
http://vortexbox.org/threads/4401-Continued-support-for-squeezebox-LMS?p=28145viewfull=1#post28145
It is
jezbo wrote:
Interesting comments on the VortexBox forums from one of the admins
there about Logitech's possible intention of future server software
supporting both sets of products (UE and squeezebox):
Don't feed the trolls.
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bpa wrote:
Castalla's problems seem to be with the BBC WMA streams not the AAC
ones. Did you do anything special to get AAC rather than WMA ? such as
disable WMA native.
Not that I'm aware of, in fact I can't see any formats disabled in
Advanced File Types.
Isn't AAC higher up the food
Sandy had more of an impact than initially thought?
MySB is back up working at this minute but now facebook is down
No, not Logitech's facebook implementation, calm down, no Squeezeboxes
involved, facebook's facebook
But then they only needed half an hour to get it back up again
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w3wilkes wrote:
FUD = Fear - Uncertainty and Doubt.
I first heard the term back in the 70's from vendors trying to compete
with IBM in the mainframe market place.
Nice reference!!! I've heard the same thing in more than one sales
meeting!
Jim
jezbo wrote:
Interesting comments on the VortexBox forums from one of the admins
there about Logitech's possible intention of future server software
supporting both sets of products (UE and squeezebox):
My technical skills are not sufficient
But thanks, you all tried I apologize.
For the time being nothing works but as soon as it becomes a longterm
issue, i ll come back for specific instructions...
Thanx again
jezbo wrote:
Interesting comments on the VortexBox forums from one of the admins
there about Logitech's possible intention of future server software
supporting both sets of products (UE and squeezebox):
Yes for a few days then start my Squeezebox Boom does not work anymore.
Have two friends with Squeezebox Boom and phoning me, they're
hysterical.
As an old computer user I tell them that probably has Logitech have a
problem that they probably will soon fix. Wait and see.
Tell them connect PC with
Ok ,now my boom is able to connect to mysqueezebox.com again .
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