Re: [slim] John Darko talks about Squeezebox / LMS in 2019
Thanks GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Isol Line conditioner/protection. iFi AC iPurifiers>CAPS4 Pipeline w/Sonore PS >Bricasti M5 network player>Kii Control>Kii Three speakers.iFi iOne+ Schiit Freya Pre for analog. An SB Touch, Duet Controller, a RB Pi 3B+ running piCorePlayer as an SBT emulator in additional rooms. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110634 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Roon, a SqueezeBox ecosystem alternative ?
michel wrote: > I just tried Roon for the first time. > Most annoing fact is that everything hires plays for seconds correctly > and the gives just very loud pink? noise. > I am running roon on a 1518+ synology. > > Another annoiance is that roon ignores perfect tags and coverart just to > replace with inferior information (I am picky with tagging). > > Otherwise interface Looks pretty, artist information is great but I > don't think that is enough to convince me. Likely your Synology isn't powerful enough to run Roon. Check at the Roon forum. There's a synology thread. In Roon settings you can tell it to use your tags, etc instead of its database No reason it shouldn't play hi-res. I play all hi-res with it including multiple X DSD. It means either you have to adjust settings, or that on your NAS+Roon doesn't have the power. GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. CAPS4 Pipeline w/Sonore PS running Windows 8/1 >Wyrd USB>Regen USB?Mytek 192 DSD DAC;Odyssey Kismet (Khartago case) Stereo Amp; Devore Gibbon 9 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon M20 (occasional use); SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car;SB Boom and SB Touch in additional rooms. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104044 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Roon, a SqueezeBox ecosystem alternative ?
Lyster wrote: > Roon is superior, I wholeheartedly agree. Roon is expensive, yes. That > is the only downside I can see. They are constantly upgrading the > product (unlike LMS). I'm going for it but I don't think I want a > lifetime license... Not yet anyway. Look where Squeezebox went, for > example. And with Roon you might be able to migrate away from Logitech > devices too. Last Christmas Roon had a "sale": give someone a subscription for about 30% off (including lifetime, which made it a much better deal). It was supposed to be for "new" subscribers. But you could give yourself a subscription by setting up a Roon account (free) and an email address to send the subscription to. Check and see if they do it again near Christmas. They will, by the way, also allow you to "top off" a yearly subscription to a lifetime one if you decide to upgrade - you just pay the difference in price. GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. CAPS4 Pipeline w/Sonore PS running Windows 8/1 >Wyrd USB>Regen USB?Mytek 192 DSD DAC;Odyssey Kismet (Khartago case) Stereo Amp; Devore Gibbon 9 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon M20 (occasional use); SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car;SB Boom and SB Touch in additional rooms. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104044 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Roon, a SqueezeBox ecosystem alternative ?
oyvindo wrote: > Stay with your LMS. There's none above it and none next to it when it > comes to music media management and distribution. > I have my LMS 7.9 running on a high end QNAP NAS and use to drive a > number of legacy squeezeboxes, as well as several Chromecasts, plus > various implementations of SqueezeLite such as the very nice one for > Kodi, and last but not least, any UPnP (DLNA) device. Players are in my > house, and in the houses of the rest of my family plus a few friends > across the globe. > > My setup is 100% stable. > Most of it is shareware, opensource or public domain. The user domain is > huge and support Forums are excellent. > What more can you ask for? > > Yes, I agree the LMS web interface is becoming a bit outdated and rusty, > but I seldom use it anymore cause there's really no need. > My favorite PC front end to LMS nowdays is Muso > http://klarita.net/muso.html - it beats Roon big time, both in > functionality as well as in Price! > My library has some 9000 albums, mostly pop and jazz. Thanks for not answering my question. Just so you know, I didn't like Muso at all. It is like a childrens version of Roon. LMS is okay, but behind the times at this point. Roon is superior to it in almost every way in terms of UI. GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. CAPS4 Pipeline w/Sonore PS running Windows 8/1 >Wyrd USB>Regen USB?Mytek 192 DSD DAC;Odyssey Kismet (Khartago case) Stereo Amp; Devore Gibbon 9 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon M20 (occasional use); SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car;SB Boom and SB Touch in additional rooms. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104044 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Roon, a SqueezeBox ecosystem alternative ?
Roon has now released "RoonSpeakers" - endpoint software that makes audio HW compatible with Roon. Anybody have an idea if an SBT could be hacked and this software installed on it? I'd be interested, as it would enable music streaming from Roon to a Touch, without using the present Roon solution, which is a stripped down type of SB "server" that doesn't include use of plugins, etc. GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. CAPS4 Pipeline w/Sonore PS running Windows 8/1 >Wyrd USB>Regen USB?Mytek 192 DSD DAC;Odyssey Kismet (Khartago case) Stereo Amp; Devore Gibbon 9 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon M20 (occasional use); SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car;SB Boom and SB Touch in additional rooms. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104044 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech SqueezeBox replacement for under $30
It's a real shame that the Empirical Audio Off Ramp 5 uses the HiFace (1) chipset for USB audio input, which is no good for Linux, as this would be pretty much perfect otherwise as it also offers LVDS I2S output which is really hard to find on other interfaces. This apparently will change in upcoming versions of the Off Ramp. Steve has said at some point he will implement Linux capability firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97721 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
PasTim wrote: If mysqueezebox.com died, is there any reason why my home system (Vortexbox, LMS 7.7.2, Touch) would not carry on working as it does now, using the music stored on my own system? I realise the hardware may die sometime (I have a spare Touch and LMS can run on a PC if needs be) but apart from that do I need to worry if I don't use external music sources? No, but theoretically a software update could mess your system up. Have backups of working versions of LMS, and working firmware for your devices. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
TheLastMan wrote: On the presumption that Logitech produces a Touch-like player under the UE brand (standalone, unamplified, high sound quality, RCA analogue and digital out, multi-room sync) there is nothing to stop anybody running both the SB and UE systems side-by-side if necessary. Most amplifiers have more than one aux input! If you wanted to listen to internet radio or streaming services you could use the UE. If you wanted to random play from selected genres in a local music collection you could use your Squeezboxen. That is really no different from having a separate Tuner and CD player. A bit of step backwards, but not terminal. The whole point of the new software is to eliminate the local server. So features like local synch of local music files, and random play go out the window. I think for the future customers of Logitech this makes sense; it just doesn't work for the existing SB customers. If you are basing your architecture on the cloud and the assumption that users are accessing your software with a wireless device like a phone or a tablet, then there isn't much of an incentive to have audiophile SQ and features. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What features will no longer work if mysqueezebox.com is shut down?
At the slimdevices update page, what are the files that end in .sha suffix? firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
I had been planning on getting another one anyway so I could add another room synched to my main stereo. I figure as long as I have copies of LMS and Touch firmware, there is no reason a SB system can't work off a Local LMS server for many years. Yes, if MySB goes down, some features will be lost, but at least the multi-room streaming/synching, the random play feature, and general local music library serving features will remain. So as far as serving your local music library, it doesn't look like much will change for many years, as long as the HW doesn't break down. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Would you pay for LMS - Subscription or One-Time?
If I could be assured someone would just keep the basic features working longtime. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96266 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Kindle Fire vs. Nook Tablet as Controller
maggior;681619 Wrote: I must be missing something with these comments above. Squeezecommander works just as well (better in some ways) than iPeng. You can easily install it by registering with and installing the marketplace app at SlideMe.org. No rooting, no special permissions, all stock! At $200, it's a heck of a lot cheaper solution than an iPad. Plus, the Fire is smaller, which is more than enough for a controller! I find it a better size for a controller app. I don't have personal experience with the Nook Tablet, but if you can use it with SlideMe.org, there should be no problem. There you can get a refurb for much less than $200. Compared to $500 or $600 for an iPad, I think this expended energy had a really good ROI! The $200 - $300 saved could buy a lot of new music!! :-). Hi- A lot of us find the SB Touch too small to see from a listening distance - say 10ft or 3m. Is the Fire screen large enough for this? Can you for instance display album art and the album/song title and read the text from that distance? Thanks -- firedog GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Tranquil PC fanless server running Vortexbox OS; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-DAC-V3, MF X-150 as pre-amp, Grant Fidelity B-283MKII bufferClassDaudio SDS-470 amp; Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon M20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92754 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Kindle Fire vs. Nook Tablet as Controller
Just read that the updated Fire is open to the Google Android App store, so you can download and install apps from there, and not just from the Amazon store. -- firedog GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Tranquil PC fanless server running Vortexbox OS; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-DAC-V3, MF X-150 as pre-amp, Grant Fidelity B-283MKII bufferClassDaudio SDS-470 amp; Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon M20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92754 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best Squeezebox alternative that supports 24/192?
Another option is to build it with the SOtM USB PCI card and then connect it directly to a USB DAC. The card is a noise/electricity regulated alternative to standard noisy USB. -- firedog GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Tranquil PC fanless server running Vortexbox OS; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-DAC-V3, MF X-150 as pre-amp, Grant Fidelity B-283MKII bufferClassDaudio SDS-470 amp; Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon M20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92320 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Vortexbox questions
Goodsounds;675107 Wrote: Like most people, I'm not interested in learning about an operating system. I'd get more bang from the buck from learning more about some of the apps I need to use, like Word or Excel. But I'm not interested in learning more about them either. Linux's lack of acceptance among PC users is because people are happy to pay for the simplicity and ease of use they get from the MS and Apple products. These products don't need to be better, and I'll accept what (I think) is your view that they're inferior. It doesn't matter, perception wins out. Yes. And this is coming from someone with a Linux (Vortexbox) based music server. I would say that something well above 95% of the population has no desire to use any OS that doesn't work totally by a GUI. In addition, using Linux limits your software and hardware choices. For instance there is some hi-end audio gear I'm interested in without Linux drivers, and the producers have categorically stated they won't be writing them. Most users like the simplicity of installing apps in Windows and Apple machines. In Apple everything just works. In newer versions of Windows, everything almost just works and there is a myriad of different programs for each purpose ranging from free to paid. Linux die-hards always talk about how great, easy, and user configurable Linux is - and that's true. But you have to be a geek. And before you start to argue, just admit to yourself: for about 98% of the population, using command line code, by definition, makes you a geek. That may not be your definition, but that's because you're a geek. The above mentioned 98% have never used command line code and don't want to ever need to. When you use a Linux setup and something doesn't work or can't be installed, you go to the net and search for a solution. There are lots of solutions, and MANY of them (in some instances all of them) involve writing code. For most people this is an automatic dealbreaker in terms of the OS. -- firedog GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Tranquil PC fanless server running Vortexbox OS; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-DAC-V3, MF X-150 as pre-amp, ClassDaudio SDS-470 amp; Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon M20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Vortexbox questions
socistep;675144 Wrote: I think the lines are getting blurred here, you need to differentiate between Linux and Vortexbox - Vortexbox is based on linux but has been custom built to be very user friendly, auto rips, pulls in tags/artwork etc, you can do all tasks from an easy to use web interface, you don't need to be geeky and get into the bones of it, that is one of the beauties of the distro. Whereas if I build a windows home server I would have to install LMS, configure various settings etc. etc., much the same using a mac mini Okay, but just go to the Vortexbox.org forum and check the solutions to problems that arise for users(And there are many). For virtually every one of them, the solution involves logging on with a command line program like Putty and writing/editing code. So even user friendly' Vortexbox is way to geeky for most people. I only know one person besides me that would go anywhere near it, and he's definitely a computer geek. Unfortunately, this is pretty much true for all the Linux distros I've encountered. And don't get me wrong: I like Vortexbox and think it works well. It just isn't suitable for anything approaching the mainstream computer user. -- firedog GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Tranquil PC fanless server running Vortexbox OS; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-DAC-V3, MF X-150 as pre-amp, ClassDaudio SDS-470 amp; Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon M20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91992 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
If I knew I could use the Fire as a SB controller, I'd probably buy one Thanks Michael -- firedog GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Tranquil PC fanless server running Vortexbox OS; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-DAC-V3, MF X-150 as pre-amp, ClassDaudio SDS-470 amp; Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon M20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?
I added tranck and album gain tags to all my files b/c I often listen in random mode and got tired of constantly adjusting the volume. In general, using the smart gain setting seems to work fairly well. However, I find that for some tracks (source is very loud?) I still fill the need to turn the volume up. In fact, on these tracks I have to turn the volume up massively to get the level I want. Not something I'm sure I want to do to my speakers. What I don't understand, that if I play the same tracks in a whole album setting (not during random play) I still notice the same problem. I'd think that when the playlist is one entire album that the relative volumes of the tracks would be preserved and I wouldn't hear this same phenomenon. -- firedog GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Tranquil PC fanless server running Vortexbox OS; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-DAC-V3, classDaudio SDS-470 amp; MF X-150 as pre-amp, Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon 20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88971 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] NAS -- Basic Guidance Appreciated
Check the SB forum, specific posts on this topic: http://forums.slimdevices.com/forumdisplay.php?f=18 -- firedog GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Tranquil PC fanless server running Vortexbox OS; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-DACV3, MF X-150 amp, Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon 20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88501 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] NAS -- Basic Guidance Appreciated
yes, it is supposed to be, and for some (many) it may be. But in the end, it is Linux, and a very specific version of Linux without the full GUI most distros of Linux have today. So if you have any issues you start needing to use Putty to login and write command line code. I switched over my WHS system to Vortexbox about a week ago.Had several issues with SBS not working correctly, and the backup function not working. All were resolved, with reinstalls/updates, help from the VB forum, and some logins and code writing with Putty. Definitely not for the true novice. If it works great for you, I'm happy. But just take a brief stroll through the VB forum and you'll see all the answers that say, logon to your VB server (putty) and use the following code... And just as a side comment, Logitech support doesn't support installs of SBS on Linux boxes (even though SBS works fine on it). They politely told me so and refused to help when my VB had a problem with some of the functionality of the SBS not working. BTW, now that I have everything working, I'm happy with VB and plan to keep using it. The SBS web interface and my Touch work just as they did with SBS on Windows. No difference in performance or features. -- firedog GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Tranquil PC fanless server running Vortexbox OS; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-DACV3, MF X-150 amp, Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon 20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88501 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Non Logitech squeezebox alternative
I'd like to hear how well it works and sounds. Could definitely use a cheaper Touch alternative for second room -- firedog GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Tranquil PC fanless server running Vortexbox OS; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-DACV3, MF X-150 amp, Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon 20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88462 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] NEW SB hardware?
Just by some used SB devices. Or keep a lookout for Logitech deals or other deals online. They do turn up occasionally. -- firedog GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Tranquil PC fanless server running Vortexbox OS; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-DACV3, MF X-150 amp, Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon 20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88170 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Hifidelio - broken - help please
do a web search for instructions on switching the hard drive. It involves a minor hack. Not difficult. Did it once myself. The other possibility is that your power supply is shot and it can't power the HD bootup. That can be checked by any reasonably competent tech. -- firedog GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Tranquil PC fanless WHS server running SqueezeServer; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-DACV3, MF X-150 amp, Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon 20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87991 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why is it showing double albums on my Touch?
Sounds like something to do with your tagging. Check the tags and also the SBS setup where it gives you options to define tagging: artist, album artist, band, etc. -- firedog GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Tranquil PC fanless WHS server running SqueezeServer; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-DACV3, MF X-150 amp, Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon 20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
If this helps anyone +---+ |Filename: 352file.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11564| +---+ -- firedog GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Tranquil PC fanless WHS server running SqueezeServer; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-DACV3, MF X-150 amp, Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon 20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
From a thread on another forum designed to show the differences between standard CD quality and hi-res recordings (same recording at different sampling rates and bit depth). To my ears, the differences are clearly there, just as described. If you can't discern them, then either your system isn't up to snuff or your ears need training. IMO, the vast majority of listeners, if played these tracks, would say they sound the same. They all sound good -they're from the same master. It's just that when you know what to listen for, you can hear the difference. from Bruce Brown's (Puget Sound) thread at http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showthread.php?2938-The-Art-of-Listening-Hi-rez-music One thread (the one with the link here) lets you compare redbook to higher res versions of the same music. You can clearly hear the differences, as Bruce says below in the thread: Here is a file that we recorded at a native 24/352.8 It starts off with piano/drum. Do not listen to the music! Instead, concentrate on the sticks hitting the cymbal. Listen to the attack/transient of the initial hit. Listen to the tone and then the decay. Focus on just this one element. Listen to the sound of the cymbals in the room. How big is the room? What kind of space is this drummer in? Listen to the tone of the cymbal. Now... as you go down to 176.4, then 88.2 and finally 16/44.1, listen to these elements that I talked about above. Listen how the transient attack becomes more dull. Notice how the tone of the cymbal changes from crisp/pristine to dull and flat. Next, notice how the decay becomes shorter and shorter and the room becomes smaller and more dry with less reverb. To my ears, clear proof that the improvement with hi -res is audible. You can hear the differences in transients and decay, and you can hear that the room gets smaller at lower res. And please don't start telling me I imagined it all. -- firedog GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Tranquil PC fanless WHS server running SqueezeServer; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-DACV3, MF X-150 amp, Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon 20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
quote from the original article: but the loudness war has resulted in music squashed to within a few decibels of its life. Yes, and hi-res releases seem to generally be mastered without that. That alone makes them much more listenable. The recent uncompressed hi-res remaster of Band of the Run is a good example. I can definitely hear more detail and a warmer tone on the hi-res. Because of it not being overly compressed there's also a lot of dynamics. It invites you to turn it up and listen loudly, b/c it sounds better that way. Not true of the standard CD. This may all be do to better mastering and a lower noise floor, and not some inherent superiority of the format, but I don't care. I can hear the music better and it's more enjoyable to listen to. So I don't see how I'm being fooled by the hi-res release. I've got some jazz and classical releases that sound wonderful on CD. Can't really say the same for much redbook pop/rock. So the hi-res versions often sound better to me. I have no argument if you want to tell me that standard CD is all I need and can hear IF DONE PROPERLY. But apparently it isn't done properly most of the time. And I have no illusions that the music conglomerates are going to start putting out extremely high quality standard CDs. So the fact that CD's can sound as good as hi-res is irrelevant in practical terms, b/c those CD's don't exist, for the most part. Even the Boston Audio Society paper referred to acknowledges that one trend became obvious very quickly and held up throughout our testing: virtually all of the SACD and DVD-A recordings sounded better than most CDs— sometimes much better. So I'll keep buying hi-res. But before you call me silly and a fool, just change the name from hi-res to properly mastered and then we won't have anything to argue about. -- firedog Tranquil PC fanless WHS server running SqueezeServer; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF V DAC3, MF X-150 amp, Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon 20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 24-bit audio (new article)
I brought this topic up over at computeraudiophile.com Got a thoughtful answer from music producer Barry Diament, who records in 24/192 and produces hi-res discs. He has an explanation for why 24bit does matter. http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/debate-24-bit-it-just-audiophoolery#comment-72930 In forums he claims he can consistently pick out hi-res recordings on good systems, and he seems to have evidence to back up his claims. So maybe he is like the tested people in the study who scored 8/10 and 7/10. A small group with trained listening skills that can hear the difference. -- firedog Tranquil PC fanless WHS server running SqueezeServer; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF V DAC3, MF X-150 amp, Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon 20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Running SB with Foobar or Winamp
I seem to remember seeing a that convolver for SBS has been written. Doesn't that solve the problem so you can still run SBS yet have Audiosense room correction? I'm way over my head here, so excuse me if I'm not making sense. -- firedog Tranquil PC fanless WHS server running SqueezeServer; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; KRK Ergo, MF V DAC3, MF X-150 amp, Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Mirage MS-12 sub; Dual 506 + Ortofon 20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65839 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Logitech MM STREAM Squeezebox Touch spotted !!
Don't remember. I setup a Google Alert for the touch and the Berlin show was mentioned in several PR type releases I received links to. -- firedog Tranquil PC fanless server running SqueezeCenter; SB Duet through Empirical Audio Pace Car; TACT 2.2XP; MF X-150,Sonus Faber Concerto; Mirage MS-12 sub; Dual 506 + Ortofon 20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in bedroom. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Logitech MM STREAM Squeezebox Touch spotted !!
To be officially unveiled at IAF 2009 Sept 4- Sept. 9 in Berlin. -- firedog Tranquil PC fanless server running SqueezeCenter; SB Duet through Empirical Audio Pace Car; TACT 2.2XP; MF X-150,Sonus Faber Concerto; Mirage MS-12 sub; Dual 506 + Ortofon 20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in bedroom. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Logitech MM STREAM Squeezebox Touch spotted !!
So can one of you tell us if it actually natively streams 24/96 without downsampling? That's the feature I'm interested in. thanks -- firedog Tranquil PC fanless server running SqueezeCenter; SB Duet through Empirical Audio Pace Car; TACT 2.2XP; MF X-150,Sonus Faber Concerto; Mirage MS-12 sub; Dual 506 + Ortofon 20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in bedroom. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Logitech MM STREAM Squeezebox Touch spotted !!
I emailed the NZ distributor that the original post came from. They replied that they will be selling it early next month - and will email me details when they know them. I don't know how high up NZ is on the world wide marketing chain of Logitech, or if it is an early release market. So take the early September date any way you wish to. Danny -- firedog firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Logitech MM STREAM Squeezebox Touch spotted !!
see: http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=70663.msg658849;topicseen#new So, does anyone know about this, or was the New Zealand release a web site mistake? BTW, the Touch is supposed to be fully compatible with 24/96 files. That alone would be a reason to buy it, for me. -- firedog firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Home Server
Hi- I installed LightsOut, but it didn't appear to me do be putting my WHS machine into a suspend or hibernate. When I login remotely to my WHS, I don't see a power option for suspend or hibernate. Does this mean my WHS can't go into suspend or hibernate? Or does it mean that SC running prevents it from going into a suspend/hibernate? Thanks -- firedog firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59433 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Home Server
Just loaded it. Thanks for all the good work. It will make SC easier to use for all of us with a WHS machine. -- firedog firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59433 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Home Server
Hi- I'd like a rescan library button for SC in the WHS Console. Thanks -- firedog firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59433 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
