Re: [slim] Sonos-Google lawsuit
As many of you have mentioned, I am also not familiar with the details of this case, just that I read articles on the web about it. It sounds like from the discussion here that it probably is more about HOW the synchronization was done as opposed to the mere fact that synchronization took place. I have a pair of Google nest mini speakers that are setup to not only synchronize, but play in stereo using the home app on an android phone. This requires the two speakers to be exactly the same in order to function. Once setup, and using the castbridge plugin in LMS, the stereo sound is obviously present by selecting the right previously setup pair of speakers. It is nice to play audio through my LMS and into these two speakers at my desktop. It sounds like this could go away with the impact of this lawsuit. Just wonder how far reaching this could actually go. freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115721 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Sonos-Google lawsuit
Anyone else in this forum also see the news that Sonos has successfully sued Google for patent infringement. It was over several things, but mostly about how Google can pair up speakers and send music through speakers wirelessly. I couldn't help but think that Slimdevices and later Logitech had this technology going well before Sonos. Yet, LMS plays well with Google devices and I like being able to cast sound to various devices; even in stereo now. Sure wish Logitech had stayed with this product. I am very glad that LMS is open source, and so grateful for those who contribute to keeping it going. freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115721 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] https connection to LMS ?
Apparently, with newer version of chrome, it must remember the response to the conflict (which is to go insecurely and override the need for https), because it is now not stopping but running as it should. Since I am behind my router, and within my lan, this should not be a security issue. I also found a LMS front-end that looked interesting and is designed just for this problem here: https://hub.docker.com/r/jgoerzen/logitech-media-server. I was thinking about trying this. Has anyone here tried this ? At least I now understand why LMS remains using http since the hardware (in my case a squeezebox-2) requires it. Once again constrained by the abandonment of the product by Logitech after purchasing from slimserver leaving the customer base. I like the logitech mice, but disdain what they did here. They could update the firmware to fix. freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=11 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] https connection to LMS ?
I apologize up front if this is a FAQ, but I could not seem to find it if it is. The newer versions of Google Chrome are essentially requiring https in order to work. At the very least, I have to force it to use http; even over the LAN to my favorite LMS (http://localhost:9000/). Is there any way to setup LMS to use https ? If so, where can I find the howto ? If not, any plans to do so ? I am using LMS 8.3.0~1639114576 on my Linux/Debian/Bullseye/11.1 server. Thanks freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=11 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New high-quality FLAC music streams from Naim Audio
Paul Webster wrote: > I've added the Naim streams into the next build (probably will make it > available later today) of my "Radio Now Player" plugin that is in beta > at the moment - including providing artist/track info for the flac > stream. > No artwork though. Is there a way to use the beta version or test it ? I am interested in this plugin for LMS. freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113280 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Alternatives
I discovered recently that Philippe's castbridge plugin services correctly two identical cast speakers that are setup with the google home app to be a "speaker pair". I found this to produce perfectly synced stereo LMS output using this plugin. The better quality your speakers are, the better your sound will be; i.e., if you play through two paired google mini speakers, it will not be nearly the total sound you get from a google hub or max. freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pandora now in 192kbps!
So, I reinstalled the pandora plugin (that is required), and also made sure that the current pandora password for my pandora account is entered in the pandora my apps on mysqueezebox, and it works and runs pandora at 192 kbps. Probably one of the main reasons I dropped it before was the limit of 128 kbps before, although nowadays the norm is probably 320 kbps. Guess Pandora will always be one step behind ? Anyway, my question: with respect to LMS, there appears to be no difference between the basic free account and the non-free accounts plus and premium. I realize, I can do all these things on the Pandora web interface, but with respect to the LMS interface, I can just create and play radio stations whether free or paid, correct ? Michael, thanks for the heads up and any and all efforts to get Pandora to 192 kbps. I am debating to try the plus account for a while which is reasonable at $5/mo. Maybe use to try new albums out. freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112313 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] praise
I just want to state in this forum, that the logitech media server (formally slimserver), and the squeezebox player, continues to be the best music player and music file organizer available. Even after all these years, and new products from many companies and developers, it is the best. Plex is certainly good and includes many other formats of media besides music, but for simply music, LMS is the best. It is fast, versatile, etc. I continue to not understand why Logitech could not embrace this technology/product, even now. The only blunder I have seen worse is why Sears would fail in the internet world with a catalog as large as they had. Enough of my rant. Good day. freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110879 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Would love advice on how to diagnose Tidal buffering
At the risk of diverting from the direct topic, I will put in my 2 cents. I have been using Tidal on the LMS and happy with it, albeit, at the mid bit rates (not the flac or master rates, and not the lower rates). Now if I play Tidal through my Android phone, in order to prevent the player from skipping, I have to run at the lower bit rates. I noticed it first through my automobile using Android Auto, but then tested on other speaker systems by bluetooth or USB, and it is consistently skipping at mid rates or higher when played through my phone. I have been with tech support at Tidal and they have acknowledged the problem. Perhaps the only device that can be used to justify the higher bit rates with Tidal are the players such as LMS, Sonos, etc., that have enough compute power to process the higher bit rates. Certainly, I cannot justify the cost in playing on my phone. BTW, my phone is a good one, so should be able to process with no problem (LG G7 ThinQ), so I believe it is an issue with the Tidal servers. freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110777 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
Microsoft now offers through their "store" free linux installations within Windows itself as an app. Ubuntu came first, but there are several others now. Basically a bash environment. I have no idea how good the graphical interface will work for this type of setup, but you do not need that to run the LMS. I have a VM setup within my debian/linux server to run Windows 10 that uses vmplayer from vmware. This allows me to run Windows-specific software that is not available for linux such as quicken, office (excel, word, powerpoint, etc.). This way you get the best of both worlds. freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
I have been using linux since 1994 when Win-95 was released and I was sick of the blue screen of death from Win-3.1. Never looked back. For beginners, I recommend Mint or Ubuntu-LTS distribution, but I use Debian. Lots of choices with Linux, so if you want it to look like Windows-7 go ahead. I recommend that you dual boot for a while until you become comfortable using linux. Since you have stuck with Windows-7 all these years, you may not be comfortable using linux. Another suggestion is to just unplug your Windows-7 from the network, and not worry about updates from Microsoft and let this be your LMS machine. Then get another machine entirely and install Windows-10, linux, or whatever, until you get it setup like you want. Then decide if you want to transition to the new machine, or just keep running LMS on your old one. freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Deezer at 99p for 3 months?
I have subscribed to both and there are things I like about both. When spotify stopped their direct support for LMS, I switched to Deezer just to try it out. The main thing I noticed about Deezer is that the download mode from server to phone works much faster. Their servers must be set up faster or less loaded. However, after Michael's spotty plugin for LMS has matured for the better, I have now switched back to spotify. Also, I like the fact that Spotify offers a direct Linux app whereas Deezer does not which requires the web player. Deezer, however, does continue to provide the LMS plugin. So, for now, I am sticking with Spotify and I have had my Deezer fix for the moment. freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109742 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezeplay for Linux?
I have used squeezelite for years with linux. Coupled with the web interface for LMS (locahost:9000) it works beautifully. There are several other options as well depending on what you like to listen to (local library, spotify, internet radio, etc.). freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109608 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which Streaming Music Service works best for You and your system?
Partly answering my own question, I researched the new service a little bit. I have not actually tried it, and there is a free month trial. But, from what others have said, the bit rate tops at 128K which seems very low for a $9.99/mo fee. That combined with new direct LMS service will eliminate me as a potential customer. freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which Streaming Music Service works best for You and your system?
Michael, while you are listening in on this conversation, I would like to express my gratitude for all the good work you have put into Spotty. For me, it is really a toss up between Spotify and Deezer. It is easy enough to switch also. One additional question for this group. Google is now pushing for their YouTube Music service. Is there a way to play this on LMS? freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which Streaming Music Service works best for You and your system?
The main thing that I like about deezer, apart from the fact that it works well with LMS, is that the download speeds are very good; at least to me. There is a noticeable difference in downloading the local copy of an album to my phone, for example. Really much faster. I don't know why. Deezer also seems to improve their service to my liking. About the only thing that I dislike about Deezer that I had in Spotify is that Spotify had the ability to create folders within playlists. So, for example, I can setup a playlist in Spotify as a genre of music, say acoustic-rock. Then I can go into that folder and setup different playlists. Deezer has only flat playlists. freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Which Streaming Music Service works best for You and your system?
I used to use Spotify, but changed when they did. freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Latest Plex updates Music features
I tried using plex for everything (movies, home-movies, photos, music). I have been a LMS user for many years and still have my squeezebox. Eventually, I dropped the music server from plex, and went back to LMS for the music server. The plex server is much to slow. It cannot handle a large music library nearly as well as LMS. Plex has a nice interface, and works well for the non-music applications, but it could be faster and more efficient; even for LANs at home. freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103565 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] does anyone still use squeezelite anymore instead of chromecast audio and if so why?
I have tried plex media server, and decided to just use it for photos, movies, home movies, TV shows, but not the audio collection. For the audio collection, I am retaining my LMS. It seems that plex is very slow for larger collections by comparison to LMS. Also, the LMS is much more configurable to play at different rates and also adapt to remote players direct to my server instead of through the plex server in the cloud. If plex could get a more efficient DB manager going, it could probably beat out the LMS. You can still cast by using a squeeze player on the android phone and cast it to the chrome cast. I have both a roku and CC. roku and it's remote seem to have more apps than the CC, but most of it is junk. There are some very unique apps on the roku that are very interesting for the individual taste (for example, old TV shows, movies, etc.). Logitech missed the boat when they did not expand the LMS to include movies, photos, TV shows, etc. The LMS is still hands down the best audio server I have seen; and combined with the squeezebox, it was one heck of a system. Too bad. Plex is pretty awesome with the Roku. I have pitched in for the lifetime membership and I am 61. freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106113 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
Hello Stefan ! I recently installed your Squeezeplayer product on my Google Nexus 5X phone. This phone does not come with an sdcard, which may be import to solve this problem ? I also am using the Squeezer player. My logitechmediaplayer server is running 7.9 on my debian linux jessie server which is up-to-date and running ssh server I have followed your 5-part usage recommendation, including the 5th part, which describes the ssh-tunnel setup. To get this working, I also installed you squeezetunnel package (outside the google play library, but installs and works well). All this is working great over wifi or cellular. Thank you so much for a great product ! Now to my only problem. I run my ssh server to only accept ssh keys, and not allow ssh password authentication. Reason ? It says right in the sshd_config file: # Change to yes to enable tunnelled clear text passwords #PasswordAuthentication no PasswordAuthentication yes I commented out my usual "no" line, and set to "yes", and then the squeezetunnel package works as expected. I checked your comments and found your recommendation to use /sdcard/sshtunnel/key or perhaps /sdcard/squeezetunnel/key. I do not have this in my phone. Any other recommendations ? Do you have a way to set up an ssh key in squeezetunnel ? freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sirius Dead on the Logitech Devices
This is a general trend. Logitech does not care about us anymore it appears to me. At least Sirius notified their customers. Have you ever received an e-mail from Logitech when support for anything was going away from the product we purchased from them ? At least they do keep this forum going where we can all complain to each other. Sirius seems to be serious about their business. freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104287 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Calm Radio
Just signed up. After losing MOG, I still have no favorite. Calmradio has a lot of good choices, and plays nicely over the squeezebox. I wish for an album art display. The album art works fine on the ipad. freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85917 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Apple Music
beats bought mog apple bough beats logitech bought slimserver logitech gave up on squeezebox all of us got screwed because of logitech mog was great freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103782 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] radio-io, another one bites the dust
First MOG, now Radio-IO. History. No longer available to the consumer. They are going to try to make it for businesses only. -when the elephants fight, the grass loses freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103242 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Beats Music Support Maybe Possible.... VOTE!
Just wanted to back up what oldmojo says. It sounds like I am in a similar situation. It really irritates me that Logitech has screwed up such a great product line. Why did they purchase slimdevices if they wanted to do this to it ? freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100974 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Beats Music to replace MOG..Where does that leave Squeezebox?
I used to use spotify before switching over to MOG. It is really a shame to have lost MOG. I really did like it; especially on my squeezebox. Losing MOG is only 2nd to losing squeezebox; squeezebox being a slow death due to Logitech buying them out. I have been a loyal purchaser of Logitech mice, but that may change in the future due to the slaughter of squeezebox. Logitech just sucks right now to me. I have tried out Beats and it really is a BM. Force feed my playlists, make it really hard to find stuff. It is just tacky. They are going o have to really improve before I send money that way. The one good thing that has come out of this is a research of what is out there. I discovered pono (http://www.mypono.com/) which is expected out soon. This appears to be much smarter; not the least of which is I really like Neil Young. Maybe we can get pono to make themselves available on the squeezebox. Meanwhile, I will also probably swtich back to spotify since it is now going to be the best thing on the squeezebox. keep on the squeezebox ... freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100477 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
