Re: [slim] Good Squeezebox alternative?
DaveWr;694791 Wrote: @garym There is also this startup, a spin off from Linn: http://simpleaudio.co.uk/overview Dave Why from Linn? ...sounds much more Sonos like but in a black flat package Very strange claim about 24bits HD audio ...but nothing about sample rate, might be not more than 48kHz, so not better than a 7 years old SB3 Amazing how hard it is to find a tempting alternative to SB line after all those years Logitech could rule this world if only they would made an effort on installation process for newbee and put decent MCU RAM in SB Touch to make it able to run LMS stand alone -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91090 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Dear Squeezebox, still love you
I can also add my voice here, SB just changed my life six years ago. I had a hard start with the server, as a complete newbee in network, but the music love was stronger. In the mean time I listened all of them an appreciate the quality of each. Today lineup is thin as never, but I look positively toward a bright futur... -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93924 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Touch replacement
Go for Touch now, this is a good pick. Every new SB annoucement get leaked on this forum, so I can bet there is no plan for any Touch HW refresh in the next six month. The only news is that Logitech will not drop the ball and that next product might strongly contain speakers ...so no Touch2 yet. -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94020 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What would make it easier to recommend a Squeezebox ?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88939 Question: What would make it easier to recommend a Squeezebox ? - Simplified installation and initial configuration - Simplified usage after initial installation/configuration - Integrated support for ripping music from CD and tagging it - Support for more online streaming services - Improved stability of mysqeueezebox.com - Improved stability and/or less bugs in Squeezebox Server/Firmware - New Squeezebox hardware which have reliable support for local music without a computer - New Squeezebox hardware with built-in speakers and stereo support - New Squeezebox hardware with support for video - New entry level Squeezebox hardware with a lower price Streaming FLAC music w/o a running computer was the enabler deciding me to go for SB line. However I have to admit that this was not easy going in the late 2006 as NAS based solutions where either over expensive or under powered or both. I can barely recommend normal people to try this way. In the mean time Logitech released SBTouch, which is per spec capable of acting as a server, unfortunately the HW choice driven first by cost makes it being under powered to do this job reliably. FW/SW also makes out of the box experience being very confusing for a none techie guy. So I vote for having such an SB that reliably and seamlessly support local music (USB or LAN) streaming w/o a computer BTW it should also being able to tune on web radio avoiding the need of mySqueezebox.com mess that just confuse everybody that is not SB customer since the early 2000. Such a product can be easy recommended and will allows my friend staying my friend after their purchase ;-) -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88939 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
Yes it works now, no need of Internet connection to control the SB system when listening local LAN music ! Thanks for that, this change was not clear to me, seems it work since last app update ...so good ;-) -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
Any chance to see this app become able to run without web connection next? Notice that I have nor scroll neither other issue running this app on a Galaxy P1000 tab ...it's just not working at all for setups without web connection, too bad. -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
Yes, a connection to WAN instead of just my LAN -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
Great, I'm eager to try that! No problems for setting up the app, only drawback for me is the need of an Internet connection to work. I have many SB setups and some of them have only LAN, so today I cannot use this app to control them ...but looks this might improve soon ;-) -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
mherger;624101 Wrote: ... This really prevent I recommend this app to my enthusiastic customers who mainly run their sbox stuff local.[/color] It's a stupid requirement, I know. But if those users already have an account (which they very likely have, because Radio/Touch require a registration too), then it would be useless to refuse the app due to that requirement. All the credentials are being used for is pulling the list of mysb.com connected players. -- Michael Could you please develop, I don't catch what's prevent a rapid fix? User with former player like SB3 or Transporter don't necessarily have a MySb...com account especially, if they just want to stream music from local server. Would the creation of an account solve the point ...I doubt since the app also struggle on my other registered Transporter setup once not connected to the web. So this app don't behave as it reasonably should. -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
mherger;623774 Wrote: Is it necessary to add that it works flawless with my iTouch running iPeng, even Logitech Controller can see this player. For me it's a bug... http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17109 -- Michael Thanks, good to know it's already identified. Can we expect a fix in the coming weeks? This really prevent I recommend this app to my enthusiastic customers who mainly run their sbox stuff local. -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
arris;623685 Wrote: ... Also, when the controller app can't connect to a network, it cannot be closed by hitting back button (it just scans for network again). You have to force close to exit. Have experienced issue with this app on one of my setup once running sbs offline playing my local music collection. My transporter is not found and app says there is no Wi-Fi ...and player not found. Notice this transporter never saw mysqueezebox.com, as I have no web access from this location. Is it necessary to add that it works flawless with my iTouch running iPeng, even Logitech Controller can see this player. For me it's a bug... -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
mherger;620413 Wrote: and have a way to configure the menu buttons keeping only the necessary one. I don't understand this request. -- Michael Goal is to make the ui as simple as possible and have all unused button hidden e.g. My App, App galery, Internet radio, even Settings can go hidden for me. Ideally I would like to have the possibility to cutomize each level of ui, so inexperienced users (friends) are not mixed by unecessary stuff. I most of time run just music from local server, w/o even a web connection, or sometimes I listen web radio who are preset in My Favorits with of course web connection enabled. -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Android Controller App
Nice app, works well on my Samsung P1000 tab. Thanks a lot to make it happen !!! Volume could have been better displaying attenuation level in db, like on my TP. Having just a bare is not very accurate when driving directly an amp or active speakers. Rather impressed by the performance browsing into a 600 cd collection on a basic qnap ts-109 nas. Fare quicker than browsing sbs through the web interface who is just unusable from such a nas. Would also appreciate to wippe out the time bare that overlays the cover picture and have a way to configure the menu buttons keeping only the necessary one. -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Moved back on SS6.5.1 and XP ...where is SS6.5.4?
Was forced to resum on SS6.5.1 and XP as my NAS DS107+ solution is not able to work reliably. Mid December 07, I update my server from SS6.5.1 on XP to SS6.5.4 on DS107+ running SSODS. Installation works easy and performance was close to perfection during about 6 weeks. Then sometimes DS was not able to start or was freezing during playback ...each time I was forced to cut the main power. I try re-installing same SS and SSOD, but it only works fine on that day. Next power up the same mess was back with never ending start and freeze... So I move all my music back on an external USB HDD and I was looking for to get SS6.5.4 for XP to download, but no way to find it on Slim Devices site, I can only have SC7.0... As I'm really not ready to risk the move to SC yet, I jump back on the SS6.5.1 copy I keep on my HDD. It works fine but my Transporter downgarde FW from 31 to 27 and my product is now back from Logitech to Slim Devices... I don't dropped yet the idea to be Windows free, but I will use my PC based setup for listening until the bug on DS station is understood ...it may takes time. On the other end I would appreciate if somebody can tell me where to find SS6.5.4 for Windows ? -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Moved back on SS6.5.1 and XP ...where is SS6.5.4?
Thanks a lot, this is exactly the link I was looking for ;-) -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44842 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: web ui poll
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31443 Question: How do you control the Slimserver? - Stock Handheld Remote - 3rd Party Remote (Harmony, Nokia, PDA, c) - Web Interface - 3rd Party Computer Interface (Moose, JRMC, c) I use standard remote 99% of time, it's quick and efficient, I mostly browse by folder and play full albums and all this is working fine. Sometimes, I use my Palm LifeDrive (WiFi) to access the Web interface but only for show off effect as it's vague and fuzzy ...not all functions are working well. Up to now, I doesn't understand the real potential of Web interface, except rescan function all the rest is useless to me, it's just to complexe to play with, i.e. I don't catch the play list stuff, so I don't use it. As I'm not running my PC/server 24/7, I first need to boot and launch SS6.5 prior powering the SB3, which is always cut from the power line while not in use. I would by fare prefer having some server functions like rescan, server launch and shut down available by direct access from the remote to avoid to be in front of the PC to do this. -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31443 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Ideas for Squeezebox 4
ezkcdude;161489 Wrote: ...Do you know of a (standalone) dock for an mp3 player that has an SPDIF output? Please tell me about it. Also, if the dock is so cheap, why can't this functionality be added to the SqueezeBox? If I could plug my mp3 player into the SqueezeBox through a USB port, this would be a great solution. You can add me, I would also be really interested on a docking station that is able to play FLAC music files in standalone and also having a decent analog out + SPDIF coax and optical (in case of audio improvement need). I t would be cool if this docking also have a good display, maybe VFD ...should I continue or do you see what I mean ? For me it's clear that current SB3 is close to be the ideal product, but he only miss the ability to do what a simple audio player is able to do, I mean browsing an external memory. I agree that this can be hard to accept form a philosophical point of view, but it 's never to late to change one's mind ...especially when discussing about SB4 which doesn't exist yet. -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimLite + NAS on board
Mark Lanctot;160927 Wrote: But now that the first one is done, the rest require no extra setup. Unfortunatelly not, this all need to be redone as this setup was also on the HDD who die This laptop is now waiting for HDD change and whole system re-installation. Mark Lanctot;160927 Wrote: How is this Slim's fault and how would direct access be any better? A network-attached HDD could have died just as easily. I never claim that's Slim's fault, as already told I have a full backup of all my data (inc. music files) that is stored on an external HDD, so it takes me less than one hours to restore all those data on a new HDD. For the system re-installation it's another story.. What I say is that having to setup a PC and let it runing to feed Slim product with music files from a mass storage is an overkill for me. I accept to use the PC for some maintenance (CD-FLAC rip, music files add/delete/move etc) but while listening I would prefere having a stand alone mode that is able to access directly an external HDD. -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30080 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimLite + NAS on board
I'm back, I follow your hints and install SlimServer 6.5 on a 4 years old Laptop (PIII,1GHz, 512MB, XPproSP2) it went nice ok it tooks me slightly more than 10min, but after one hour I was able to play music (MP3 192kB files) from the server Laptop on a 2nd Laptop using SoftSqueeze. I was proud of that, it works also while 2nd Laptop was connected by WiFi. This motivate me for more, so I install and configure EAC + AccurateRip + FLAC.exe following the installation guide in the Wiki. I also manage this to work even it tooks me about 5 hours effort until I got my first ever .FLAC file. I was also able to stream those new files using SoftSqueeze, but obviously could not differentiate them from MP3 due to the bad Laptop embeded speakers sound quality. I had the oportunity to borrow a SqueezBox3 for this w-e and bring it to work user interface is straight forward. This evening I was listening FLAC on my HiFi system since about 3 hours, audio quality was really good (SB3 - optical out HT (preamp) -Power amp). Now I could feel the power and superiority of FLAC against MP3 (same file back to back). I was very excited of all the tests and comparisons I plan to do this w-e until the music suddenly stop. The raison is the die of the server Laptop HDD, luckly I have a copy of all the music I've ripped, but this is the end of my SB3 test Now you maybe better understand why having a stand alone mode would have allow me to listen SB3 streamed music (direct out from my backup HDD) while I reinstall a new HDD + all the apps in my Laptop instead of that, my CD player will do the job. This first experience convince me on two things: - FLAC quality is really good and can/will replace all my CD - Slim products need a stand alone mode to become a real CD player alternative -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30080 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Ideas for Squeezebox 4
ezkcdude;160801 Wrote: The thread is about what could be done, not how it would be done. I'm sure it would be relatively easy to figure out how to stream files from an external drive. How does SqueezeNetwork work? Not via SlimServer. Anyway, this would be a great feature, and worth quite a bit to me. I get tired of having my computer on all the time, but that's the only way to access my files right now. I don't think I'm alone. It comes up often in the forums that people would like to attach networked drives, too. You are not alone ! I'm also fighting for such an improvment see this thread --http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30080 ...but this seems a sensitive topic, first answer sounds always it's impossible For me today in 21th century, I belive on it's impossible that's impossible so I poursue my quest to get a slim navigation mode that permit to use SlimDevices product in stand alone. -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimLite + NAS on board
kyleki;157983 Wrote: The original poster wasn't recommending adding a HD to the Transporter. He was simply suggesting *another* way of accessing his music by providing extra logic in the device itself so it can browse network accessible storage - independent of a server. It would be nice if you could: 1) connect network attached storage to LAN 2) connect Transporter to LAN 3) browse and play music from NAS without ever needing to install slimserver on any PC. Having this ability shouldn't need to preclude any existing functionality of the slim devices, it should be in addition to it. Just as I have the option when powering on my SB2 to connect to my slimserver or SqueezeNetwork, why not an additional option to browse a network attached hard drive for music? Would this be such a bad thing? Thank you a lot be the first that understand the spirit of my proposal ;-) To move forward, I think AudioTron is a good example of a good techy product that arrives to early on the market ...it dies if nobody take care on it. When I look on what this product was able to do for $300.- it's a pity that it becomes discontinued. http://www.turtle-beach.com/site/products/audiotron/indetail.asp Now moving back on Transporter, please react to insure it will not follow the same path, the future is not yet written... -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30080 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimLite + NAS on board
it. -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30080 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SlimLite + NAS on board
As already told here http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29897 my biggest concern with Transporter is the lack of a stand alone mode. As music lover and audio enthusiastic I'm interested to find a solution to get free of all my CDs and enter in the music streaming age. The fact SlimDevices products act like pure server clients, and need a running SlimServer to be able to navigate and play streamed music, is very frustrating. It prevent them to be a CD player direct replacement, especially from an usability point of view. Therefore I'm proposing to implement a minimal stand-alone mode on board. I'm targeting especially on Transporter as it offer enough inner space for that, his higher price point also allows more freedom. My proposal is following: - Build a reduced SlimServer version which focus on the essential and permit to navigate and play music located on an external HDD. To be efficient this SlimLite should be shrink to the maximum and like a SafeMode guarantee this device be able to play music at any time. - To host this SlimLite a NAS Main board (custom or commercial) should be added in the Transporter. Power supply can be external, it just need a separate NAS input plug, in order to not disturb Transporter's well designed supply. - Data connecting should be made through Ethernet connector as like this NAS would be external. HDD storage connector should be added, it can be Ethernet (Networkdrive) or USB2 ...or both if there is no limitation. I know this proposal could sound strange for the one who find current SlimDevices products easy to install and had no concern on their usage. On the other hand I really think this solution would be a serious improvement for users who simply want to listen streamed music... -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30080 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimLite + NAS on board
I think I was not clear enough, the goal is to fit the NAS Board inside Transporter's body not to build a 2nd full box. HDD must not be located close to Transporter it can be a network drive hooked behind several meter of LAN cable... About customer unfilled attempt, Slim's claim on Transporter: Transporter's sound quality surpasses even the most exotic compact disc players. Its no-compromise design minimizes jitter and distortion, so you can enjoy the best your digital music collection has to offer. Before be able to beat most exotic CD players, Transporter first needs to be able to start playing music ...I mean always like a $30.- CD player. I agree my above statement is not really fair but sometimes I'm loosing control :-} -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30080 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
