erland;615015 Wrote:
IMHO, the solution with the Touch which have a built-in server is the
best solution if they want to target the non-technical non geeky users
and local music, two boxes means two CPU's duplicate memory and thus
makes the solution too expensive. Honestly, I'm not sure
Couple of things from me
1) Touch 2
Has been mentioned numerous times before, one of two options
- Upgraded CPU/memory etc. so that full server can be ran on device and
enabling USB HDD plugin to be successfull for all, I think this has the
potential to be a great feature as TinySBS has been
FredFredrickson;614449 Wrote:
I don't want this thread to degrade into pointless logitech killing the
franchise arguments. Just ideas about the next squeezebox.
A new batch of SB Classic would be great for 2011. Any color. I'll have
3, thanks.
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epoch1970;615738 Wrote:
A new batch of SB Classic would be great for 2011. Any color. I'll have
3, thanks.
And given the price of the competition they should have good stats and
cost less that $150.
P
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real stereo doesn't just wake the neighbors, it -enrages- them.. It is
truly
Mnyb;615063 Wrote:
Also a x86 server box at 300$ can you really get a quality machine with
good spec for that ? At least it must have a separate flash or ssd for
the OS, music on a separate drive and you want to be able to expand it
with at least one extra drive ? Dual core atom.
This a
Mnyb;615063 Wrote:
Also a x86 server box at 300$ can you really get a quality machine with
good spec for that ? At least it must have a separate flash or ssd for
the OS, music on a separate drive and you want to be able to expand it
with at least one extra drive ? Dual core atom.
It does
I was thinking dual atom because arm based NAS does not do transcoding .
No SOX or flac, alac, lame and similar, problems with streams etc.
So a server should be able to transcode at least 2 separate streams to
be multipurpose enough .
Hmm prices going down, maybe is see motherboards at
Muele;614844 Wrote:
4. Marketing. Sell the damn stuff. Its actually good products.
Afordable whole house audio ranging from cheap bathroom quality audio
to audiophile quality-gear. That is unique. But Logitech chooses to
just show a boring list of anonomous porducts on their website.
5.
I think the missing link is a decent server. The item most people have
most trouble with is the server software on their PC - esp as most
don't want to leave it on 24/7.
Tiny SBS works just about OK in the Touch, but IMHO a full
specification dedicated mini server (such as a Vortexbox appliance)
TheLastMan;614946 Wrote:
Ideally it should have an Intel x86 processor, a simple Linux interface
and a single 1TB hard drive. Price it at under $300 / £200 and you would
have a real winner - esp if marketed in a bundle with the Touch. The
Vortexbox is nearly there, but it needs to be sold
Muele;614844 Wrote:
What do you think Logitech should do to keep the product alive and
profitable?
They should just decide on a long term strategy and try to work towards
that in their marketing and development plans. I've often felt that
there doesn't seem to exist any clear strategy for
Look at what Sony did: Best Buy had a huge display but the stuff didn't
sell because it stinks.
Logitech needs a WORKING display kit that shows how it works, including
a PC/router/Touch/Boom and a player attached to a generic stereo. This
should include in-store demos as well as a self-guided
erland;615015 Wrote:
Would any of your non-technical non audiophile friends or relatives who
don't own a Squeezebox today pay $299 for a Touch plus $299 for a 1TB
server box ?
Well I have three non-technical non audiophile friends who have
bought into Sonos at £600 / $900 dollars for a
pski;615034 Wrote:
Logitech needs a WORKING display kit that shows how it works, including
a PC/router/Touch/Boom and a player attached to a generic stereo.
That doesn't sound like a good idea to me. It tells the customer he
needs all that gear just to get a radio to play a single note. It's
JJZolx;615039 Wrote:
That doesn't sound like a good idea to me. It tells the customer he
needs all that gear just to get a radio to play a single note. It's
like putting big orange safety warning stickers on a kids' toy and
expecting anyone to buy it.
I think someone at Logitech has
pski;615050 Wrote:
So when I see a Touch or a Radio at Best Buy and it doesn't do a thing
but turn-on how do I know what it does? DUH? The issue is that most
people ALREADY have the other stuff. Nothing in their marketing has a
single reference to using the player without a server. Of course
Also a x86 server box at 300$ can you really get a quality machine with
good spec for that ? At least it must have a separate flash or ssd for
the OS, music on a separate drive and you want to be able to expand it
with at least one extra drive ? Dual core atom.
This a common mistake done on
pski;615050 Wrote:
Nothing in their marketing has a single reference to using the player
without a server.
Which marketing are you talking about ?
There isn't much indication in the material on their web shop that
indicates that you need a local server to use the device ? Have I
missed
A better Controller, along the lines of the Sonos Controller 200, might
make some sense, but I'm not sure how much of an impact it would make
as a product. Nobody is going to buy a $200 Controller for a $130
Radio/Alarm Clock. Logitech long ago decided to aim low with the
Squeezebox product line
erland;614473 Wrote:
...
HARMONY CONTROLLER:
- A harmony remote with two way Squeezebox communication, basically a
Harmony remote with hard buttons but also with integrated Controller
functionality.
- I believe this could be a potential success, it would also be a way
to both get
erland;614473 Wrote:
- A harmony remote with two way Squeezebox communication, basically a
Harmony remote with hard buttons but also with integrated Controller
functionality.
- I believe this could be a potential success, it would also be a way
to both get the Harmony technology into
On 03/01/2011 05:10 AM, JJZolx wrote:
A better Controller, along the lines of the Sonos Controller 200, might
make some sense, but I'm not sure how much of an impact it would make
as a product. Nobody is going to buy a $200 Controller for a $130
Radio/Alarm Clock.
I would love to see a touch
I think Logitech could greatly increase the sales of all their devices
if they built a better remote for the units not including the Duet of
course. Now I know you can buy the Duet remote and pair it will the
other units but I think they need to build a better standard remote.
The line of site
As I have typed often on this Forum, I would love to see a Duet Remote
mated with a Harmony 1000. The problem would be getting it to a price
point that more then 10 Squeezebox Fanatics would be willing to pay.
The fact that anybody can get a used iTouch on EBAY and buy iPeng for
it and have a
Maybe they're waiting for the technology to catch up. The killer feature
is surely a TinySBS that can happily run a 'normal' setup, ie supporting
several devices and a decent sized library. Maybe the fierce competition
in mobile phones is bringing the necessary hardware to an SB-friendly
price
toby10;614642 Wrote:
1. Marketing: try finding a SB at a retailer
Actually this has improved a lot where I live. Back in 2006 I think
there were one (or maybe a few) online store in Sweden where it was
possible to get a Squeezebox, today I can get one from one of the
bigger electronic
iPhone;614684 Wrote:
The fact that anybody can get a used iTouch on EBAY and buy iPeng for
it and have a killer remote and an iPod, makes it hard for any new
Logitech product to be a Squeezebox remote control.
You've hit the nail on the head as far as I'm concerned. This is why a
new
I think we have covered what devices might or might not appear.
What do you think Logitech should do to keep the product alive and
profitable?
I think we need to realize that in order for the Squeeze-product-line
to give us audio-pleasure, it needs to prosper. And mass market is
where the money
What's the next big squeezebox going to be?
My guess is a touchscreen boom, or a touchscreen remote. The touch with
a battery, and no audio capabilities.
Ideas?
I don't want this thread to degrade into pointless logitech killing the
franchise arguments. Just ideas about the next squeezebox.
Duet 2
Controller 2 .
because the current one is way behind the smartphone apps, to slow etc
to small display etc, ( or simply endorse one of the current apps and
bundle players with an iPod Touch )
Reciever 2 .
Support for more formats on the device, this would make spotify work on
it and
I would buy...
A Touch 2, with more memory, faster processor and improved USB
implementation, which can run it's embedded SBS really stably (i have
very few problems, but it appears many do in certain circumstances).
A Boom/Touch hybrid would be great too.
As for a touchscreen remote - Not
A touchscreen Boom would be interesting. If not touchscreen, at least a
color screen. I think the Boom is the next logical device to get
updated.
I'd like to see the buttons and knob remain and the screen updated to
color. I like the knob on the Boom. I think it's easier to use than
swipes
autopilot;614452 Wrote:
As for a touchscreen remote - Not sure about that. With the ubiquity of
smart phones i think it would be better to concentrate on the player
itself.
I agree. It would be nice if Logitech could provide the iPhone app for
free, like Sonos does. But that would mean
It would make sense to work on replacements for the ip3k based
products.
I do not see the point of sticking a touchscreen in the box; the screen
shoukd really be at hand.
But with the abundance of 3 party apps that we have, why should
Logitech use time on making a new controller. They can't make
FredFredrickson;614449 Wrote:
What's the next big squeezebox going to be?
Some thoughts follows below:
RECEIVER 2:
- Based on SqueezeOS, basically a Touch without the screen.
- One issue is that it needs faster CPU and more memory to be usable as
a SBS replacement with its built-in server.
I think they should put their money on UPNP/DNLA support on the
serverside.
And make the Touch support network-drives, with just the DB stored on
usb/memorycard.
Regarding new models, there must be something coming up pretty soon or
there never will IMHO.
If we look back at the rate of release
Muele;614481 Wrote:
If we look back at the rate of release of new products. The next
product has always been well under development when a product was
released.(Edit: at least as far back as I know the history og Squeeze.)
The Touch was greatly delayed, so the HW developers has had lots of
Replacing all ip3k based machines and make all squeezeplay products have
the same capacity for file formats would be logical .
Touch is very capable just dump the useless Tiny server and use the cpu
for other things and that platform can be enhanced for years to come.
But you got to have new
A mix of logical extrapolations and wishes.
Boom2 : Basically a Radio with two speakers. Same screen as Radio if
they want to keep cost down, or maybe the Touch touch screen if they
want market differentiation (most likely not). Make sure audio quality
is there to differentiate from the Radio.
erland Wrote:
I'm pretty sure dropping support in the server for everything based on
the IP3K platform isn't an option.
My understanding is that onebrowser tries to unify the IP3K, web and
SP interfaces, so that the server code and plugins are easier to
maintain.
They'd really be crazy
My bet is none. We've reached the end of the line.
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my bet is none. We've reached the end of the line.
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New product? I can bet you what it won't be reliable, intuitive,
well thought out, top quality.
I'm with Jim. The product line is finished. Logitech may have sold lots
of plastic boxes but they've not developed a product with a future,
concentrating instead on sales in the short-term and
This might be a dumb statement/question..
Other then the SB1/SB2, when has ANY Squeezebox been updated? Look at
the product line, its all new boxes, the SB2 being basically completely
new inside just in the old SB1 box. So I personally don't see any Duet
II, Touch II, or TP II coming. The TP
On 02/28/2011 08:23 PM, iPhone wrote:
Just my thoughts, but I wonder too if we have seen the last of the
Squeezebox product line. All the money is in video today and the bottom
as fallen out of that market price wise, $59 for a Roku box.
Plus, the Logitech entry in that race has not gotten
JJZolx;614564 Wrote:
My bet is none. We've reached the end of the line.
Do you have facts to back that up ?
Logitech SqueezeBox are selling well :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/electronics/322215011/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_e_1_3_last
jean2;614583 Wrote:
Do you have facts to back that up ?
Since there aren't any facts available, just strong indications and
suspicions, let's follow the wish of the original poster of this
thread, shall we ?
For anyone that haven't already seen the indications, just search in
the forum, we
I think a Controller2 would make sense.
Just think of a Touch without cables and just a battery/stand. It could
compete with any phone because the screen is larger (I'm still no friend
of iPeng or SqueezeCommander, though they do their best on the small
screen), and it could (hopefully) compete
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