Re: [slim] play lastFM scrobbled tracks

2016-09-15 Thread pippin 

mherger wrote: 
> But in many cases 
> the matching process is slow. Matching a whole list of tracks/artists 
> could take a while. It would need to be able to be run in the background
> 
> somehow.
> 

Well, why not? I mean this could be something like a daily import
and you simply configure which streaming service you want to match
against...



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Re: [slim] play lastFM scrobbled tracks

2016-09-15 Thread Jackisidore 

If it could create a playlist it runs more or less in the background.
Once it is finished the user could save it and create a nice archive
like mylastfm-favtracks-sep-2016 etc. 


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Re: [slim] play lastFM scrobbled tracks

2016-09-15 Thread Michael Herger 

That said: I think the idea behind the Last.fm thing, at least for me,
would be to keep track of music _independent_ of the service you use so
when you switch from Spotify to TIDAL (or... more likely... from TIDAL
to something else soon...) you can keep your favorites


Understood. LastMix already has code to match LastFM data to either 
local tracks or (if not found locally) to one of the services you're 
using (currently trying Deezer/Napster/Spotify/Tidal). But in many cases 
the matching process is slow. Matching a whole list of tracks/artists 
could take a while. It would need to be able to be run in the background 
somehow.


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Re: [slim] play lastFM scrobbled tracks

2016-09-15 Thread pippin 

Well, we've done this a few years ago with our demo ickStream controller
using LMS as a source, but that wasn't about adding it to the library
itself but just combining the view of different libraries, something one
could do with LMS if just there was a decent search within services.
I've planned to implement ickStream directly into iPeng forever but
where do I find all the time for these things?

That said: I think the idea behind the Last.fm thing, at least for me,
would be to keep track of music _independent_ of the service you use so
when you switch from Spotify to TIDAL (or... more likely... from TIDAL
to something else soon...) you can keep your favorites



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Re: [slim] play lastFM scrobbled tracks

2016-09-15 Thread Rainer M Krug 
Michael Herger  writes:

>> The scrobbled ttack titles and album titles are identical to LMS titles.
>
> ...unless they were scrobbled while playing from Spotify/Deezer or the like.
>
>> My guess is you could match LastFM tracks to LMS tracks. A list like
>> Random Albums with Favorite Last FM Albums/Artist or Tracks.
>> Or a list from LastFM and a play button which tries to match a LMS
>> track/album/artist
>> Or an option to generate a playlist from LastFM list.
>
> I think what might be great in general is if we could "add" music
> referenced by music services to the music library. Eg. imagine you
> have built your library in one of the music services, or the history
> in Last.fm. And these items could somehow be part of the library, no
> matter whether they were locally available or not... But that would be
> a massive change to how LMS works today. Probably too much to ever
> happen :-(.

Hopefully not - I guess that many would be even prepared to pay for
this (I would certainly be)- think kickstarter or similar.

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Re: [slim] play lastFM scrobbled tracks

2016-09-15 Thread Michael Herger 

The scrobbled ttack titles and album titles are identical to LMS titles.


...unless they were scrobbled while playing from Spotify/Deezer or the like.


My guess is you could match LastFM tracks to LMS tracks. A list like
Random Albums with Favorite Last FM Albums/Artist or Tracks.
Or a list from LastFM and a play button which tries to match a LMS
track/album/artist
Or an option to generate a playlist from LastFM list.


I think what might be great in general is if we could "add" music 
referenced by music services to the music library. Eg. imagine you have 
built your library in one of the music services, or the history in 
Last.fm. And these items could somehow be part of the library, no matter 
whether they were locally available or not... But that would be a 
massive change to how LMS works today. Probably too much to ever happen 
:-(.


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Re: [slim] play lastFM scrobbled tracks

2016-09-15 Thread Michael Herger 

There's no such thing as banning on last.fm, is there? I can't find any
related API all for that. There's "unlike", but that's not banning.


Really? Was that just Pandora and Slacker offering that?


I've never really been neither Pandora nor Slacker user for the obvious 
reason of their lack of availability. But try to ban a track using 
Last.fm. Or check their API documentation (http://last.fm/api). I can't 
find any trace of a ban feature.


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Re: [slim] play lastFM scrobbled tracks

2016-09-15 Thread pippin 

mherger wrote: 
> > Oh, and while we are at it, my "banned" tracks could be skipped by
> > LastMix :)
> 
> There's no such thing as banning on last.fm, is there? I can't find any 
> related API all for that. There's "unlike", but that's not banning.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

Really? Was that just Pandora and Slacker offering that?



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Re: [slim] play lastFM scrobbled tracks

2016-09-15 Thread Jackisidore 

mherger wrote: 
> > The more I think about it, the more I would love to see LastFM
> favorite
> > albums/artists/tracks etc in the jive(lite) user interface.
> 
> What would you do with those menus? List your albums ordered by 
> favoriteness (ahm... what would you call that? :-))? Or create mixes 
> based on your data? What about external music sources?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

The scrobbled ttack titles and album titles are identical to LMS titles.
My guess is you could match LastFM tracks to LMS tracks. A list like
Random Albums with Favorite Last FM Albums/Artist or Tracks. 
Or a list from LastFM and a play button which tries to match a LMS
track/album/artist
Or an option to generate a playlist from LastFM list.



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Re: [slim] play lastFM scrobbled tracks

2016-09-14 Thread Michael Herger 

Oh, and while we are at it, my "banned" tracks could be skipped by
LastMix :)


There's no such thing as banning on last.fm, is there? I can't find any 
related API all for that. There's "unlike", but that's not banning.


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Re: [slim] play lastFM scrobbled tracks

2016-09-14 Thread Michael Herger 

What _I_ would want to see is a menu with my "loved" tracks - the
ultimate "favorites" feature across multiple services.


I still don't see how this would work with tracks outside your local 
collection: we'd have to look each and every single of them up on a 
remote streaming service. With potentially hundreds of tracks that's a 
performance nightmare... Unless it's kind of part of a scan process or 
done in the background in some other way.


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Re: [slim] play lastFM scrobbled tracks

2016-09-14 Thread pippin 

Oh, and while we are at it, my "banned" tracks could be skipped by
LastMix :)



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Re: [slim] play lastFM scrobbled tracks

2016-09-14 Thread pippin 

What _I_ would want to see is a menu with my "loved" tracks - the
ultimate "favorites" feature across multiple services.



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Re: [slim] play lastFM scrobbled tracks

2016-09-14 Thread Michael Herger 

The more I think about it, the more I would love to see LastFM favorite
albums/artists/tracks etc in the jive(lite) user interface.


What would you do with those menus? List your albums ordered by 
favoriteness (ahm... what would you call that? :-))? Or create mixes 
based on your data? What about external music sources?


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Re: [slim] play lastFM scrobbled tracks

2016-09-14 Thread pippin 

Well, "free" is not necessarily commercial (although e.g. Spotify and
some other claim anything on the App Store is).
But yes, I'll look it up, since Last.fm are no longer streaming
themselves they might be relieved of some of the restrictions usually
imposed by rights owners



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Re: [slim] play lastFM scrobbled tracks

2016-09-14 Thread Jackisidore 

No idea. I have recently installed Scrobbles on ios. It's free and not
from last.fm and basicly shows my last.fm favourites


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Re: [slim] play lastFM scrobbled tracks

2016-09-14 Thread pippin 

Do you know whether Last.fm now allows commercial use of their API?
I wanted to have such a feature for iPeng forever but at least in the
past Last.fm would not allow it.



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Re: [slim] play lastFM scrobbled tracks

2016-09-14 Thread Jackisidore 

The more I think about it, the more I would love to see LastFM favorite
albums/artists/tracks etc in the jive(lite) user interface. 

Maybe something "simple" like the new Random Albums option or like the
Additional Browse Modes. My programming skills are currently very very
rusty.



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Re: [slim] play lastFM scrobbled tracks

2016-09-14 Thread Jackisidore 

That's why I started scrobbling to last.FM. My last.FM artist list is
slowly growing.



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Re: [slim] play lastFM scrobbled tracks

2016-09-14 Thread Michael Herger 

I started scrobbling my playback to lastFM.

Is it possible to use my lastFM profile (Top Albums or Top Tracks) to
create a playlist in LMS?


I don't think there's any such plugin around. The LastMix plugin I'm 
offering to use with 7.9's Don't Stop The Music feature would use that 
data to create a mix based on your favorite artists (according to your 
Last.FM history).


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[slim] play lastFM scrobbled tracks

2016-09-13 Thread Jackisidore 

I started scrobbling my playback to lastFM.

Is it possible to use my lastFM profile (Top Albums or Top Tracks) to
create a playlist in LMS?



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