Re: [Emacs.app dev]: Problems compiling Emacs.app with GNUstep

2008-07-17 Thread Adrian Robert
On Jul 16, 2008, at 10:07 AM, Charles philip Chan wrote: On 16 Jul 2008, at 12:54, Charles philip Chan wrote: ... #12 0xb6e1a92a in ffi_closure_SYSV () from /usr/local/lib/libffi.so.5 #13 0x0827a831 in ns_alloc_autorelease_pool () at nsterm.m:519 #14 0x08169dd7 in main (argc=15,

Re: [Emacs.app dev]: Problems compiling Emacs.app with GNUstep

2008-07-16 Thread Adrian Robert
On Jul 15, 2008, at 5:50 PM, Charles philip Chan wrote: Thanks Fred, you put me on the right track, I needed to add -- args to gdb to get a backtrace. Can you comment on this bt? #0 0xb7f51410 in __kernel_vsyscall () #1 0xb7296c26 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 #2 0x08168526 in abort ()

Re: Cocotron

2006-12-28 Thread Adrian Robert
On Dec 28, 2006, at 2:54 PM, Gregory John Casamento wrote: Yen-Ju, RFM and I wrote the author and his feeling was that it was mainly the license and that he and others felt like GNUstep wasn't meeting the goal that they wanted, which was, as Cocotron demonstrates, to be able to

Re: Cocotron

2006-12-24 Thread Adrian Robert
On Dec 24, 2006, at 7:15 AM, Helge Hess wrote: I'm not that much into developing-AppKit, but IMHO its a huge difference whether you write AppKit just for Windows or whether you also target X11 given that the two are vastly different. Personally I would probably approach that by writing

Re: GWorkspace for Newcomers

2006-10-02 Thread Adrian Robert
On Oct 2, 2006, at 3:44 PM, Walter Hunziker wrote: Maybe you can furnish me a location where I can get installation guidelines or download a singel rpm which would solve most of the troubles. Hi, Sorry you had these troubles. Have you tried the resources listed at:

Re: The Wiki

2006-09-12 Thread Adrian Robert
On Sep 12, 2006, at 2:08 PM, Adrian Robert wrote: On Sep 12, 2006, at 1:35 PM, Nikolaus Waxweiler wrote: Looking at the wiki, and the way we've been working on it, it seems like there's no direction! We are all just doing whatever and hoping everyone else will agree with us. Hehe. One

Re: Thoughts triggered by these NeXTbuntu guys

2006-08-30 Thread Adrian Robert
On Aug 30, 2006, at 12:12 AM, Tima Vaisburd wrote: Since I'm writing some image editor I happen to know that writing of images in any format other than tiff is not implemented (and most people need jpegs or pngs instead). We do not have a single backend that works perfectly. The arts

Re: Thoughts triggered by these NeXTbuntu guys

2006-08-30 Thread Adrian Robert
On Aug 30, 2006, at 12:12 AM, Tima Vaisburd wrote: I often connect to my home machine from work, and use X windows over ssh and then cable internet provider. Since GNUstep is extremely slow on that connection even with xlib it exludes any GNUstep program as a viable alternative to other X

Re: really attracting developers

2006-08-30 Thread Adrian Robert
On Aug 30, 2006, at 1:44 PM, Michael Thaler wrote: On Wednesday 30 August 2006 14:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True, especially regarding Gecko. However, using libwww WOULD be an idea for writing a _very_ simple webbrowser. I was thinking about that, using libwww as a bundle, so it could

Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-28 Thread Adrian Robert
On Aug 28, 2006, at 7:43 AM, Peter Cooper wrote: I've been running Terminal.app on NetBSD for ages, and apart from some cosmetic issues that I can't easily fix because of the at- times-incomprehensible-genius of the authori, it's a very pleasant terminal environment that I use every day

Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-27 Thread Adrian Robert
On Aug 27, 2006, at 5:20 PM, Andrew Sveikauskas wrote: On 2006-08-27 16:57:18 -0400 Adrian Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Packages would need to be based on source code / GNUstep-make. What about a package manager framework that handed off actual package management to NSBundles? Have

Objective-C standard

2006-06-02 Thread Adrian Robert
I was recently refreshing my knowledge of C++ and found myself once again wondering at the tremendous disparity between market acceptance of one over the other -- even greater than the Wintel vs. Mac(tel) disparity. The lack of a standard is surely part of the problem. If you use

Re: Ticker.app, proxy support.

2006-04-06 Thread Adrian Robert
Ticker.app now lets you fetch feeds through a proxy, a rather essential feature I think. You may configure different proxies for different feeds. The URL is http://www.gnustep.it/marko/Ticker/. Hi Marko, Is there any way to find out about these updates through Ticker.app itself, such as

Re: Why is this casting needed?

2006-03-24 Thread Adrian Robert
On Mar 24, 2006, at 5:48 PM, Helge Hess wrote: On Mar 24, 2006, at 21:17, Nate Smith wrote: Hello, I have two classes, A, and B, each which have initWithNumber: methods. I have another class, C, which accepts an instantiated A object in one of its constructors. I compile the following

Re: autogsdoc generated documentation

2006-02-03 Thread Adrian Robert
On Feb 3, 2006, at 6:09 AM, Chris B. Vetter wrote: Hi, using autogsdoc to generate documentation is pretty straight forward. However, I do have a question regarding the creation of a frame'd docu: How do you get references to _Categories_ listed in MainIndex.html? Is it even possible?

Re: turn off system beep

2005-12-16 Thread Adrian Robert
On Dec 16, 2005, at 3:43 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry if this is a naive question but: is it possible to turn off the system beep for GNUstep applications? There seems to be no setting for the user's defaults database and xset b off (as expected, I guess,) does not affect

Re: strange NSException code

2005-12-02 Thread Adrian Robert
On Dec 2, 2005, at 7:14 AM, Helge Hess wrote: On 2. Dez 2005, at 03:24 Uhr, Andrew Ruder wrote: I think that in this day and age, the extra space due to debugging symbols is fairly neglible, It isn't neglible, its a major overhead: ---snip--- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/lib$ ls -hla

Re: GNUstep on windows

2005-12-02 Thread Adrian Robert
Hi, also started writing some guides to using GNUstep. What I've written so far can be found at: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~smokey27/objc.pdf This looks very nice! Have you seen: http://gnustep.org/resources/documentation/Developer/Base/ ProgrammingManual/manual_toc.html It might

Re: OpenOffice.org on OS X and GNUstep

2005-11-03 Thread Adrian Robert
On Nov 2, 2005, at 3:17 PM, Sean Fulton wrote: On 2005-10-07 10:23:07 -0400, Adrian Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Oct 6, 2005, at 10:17 AM, Stefan Urbanek wrote: Hi, Following article made me think: http://macslash.org/article.pl? sid=05/10/05/1132218mode=threadthreshold=-1 What

Re: GNUstep.conf

2005-11-03 Thread Adrian Robert
On Nov 3, 2005, at 4:44 AM, Chris B. Vetter wrote: Hello @list, has anyone tried to bend the settings of GNUSTEP_XXX_ROOT such that the GNUstep folders reflect the folder structure of OS X? That is, for example instead of .../Local/Applications/ and .../System/Applications/ just have ONE

Re: ANN: Gorm 1.0.0

2005-10-30 Thread Adrian Robert
On Oct 29, 2005, at 12:50 PM, Gregory John Casamento wrote: 1 ANNOUNCE ** This is version 1.0.0 of Gorm. Thanks for the great effort. (Is this GNUstep's first _major_ 1.0 app?) (!) Adrian ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list

Re: Proposal: Subversion Migration

2005-10-15 Thread Adrian Robert
On Oct 14, 2005, at 6:50 PM, Helge Hess wrote: On 14. Okt 2005, at 09:10 Uhr, MJ Ray wrote: Integration and disk/memory consumption are real. You may have time to upgrade and reconfigure your desktop every N minutes I honestly do not know what you are talking about. Even my NeXTstation

Re: Small Patch for NSPropertyList.m

2005-10-12 Thread Adrian Robert
On Oct 7, 2005, at 4:21 AM, Chris Vetter wrote: Hi, occasionally I have to modify ~/GNUstep/Defaults/.GNUstepDefaults by hand and noticed that BOOLs are written with an additional \n -- which looks kinda weird: Not sure if anyone else already answered this privately, but I assume

Re: Proposal: Subversion Migration

2005-10-11 Thread Adrian Robert
On Oct 10, 2005, at 10:56 PM, Andrew Ruder wrote: Hello all, I am proposing that GNUstep migrate to using subversion (instead of CVS). I'm also in favor of this (keeping it on gnu.org if possible).. have used subversion for a couple of years now and while it has quirks as mentioned, the

Re: Proposal: Subversion Migration

2005-10-11 Thread Adrian Robert
On Oct 11, 2005, at 10:27 AM, Adam Fedor wrote: On 2005-10-11 08:07:24 -0600 Andrew Ruder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should be easy enough that the gna and savannah folks could do that for us. We already have a project setup at gna.org, I'm not sure I'd see any issues with hosting code on

Re: GNUstep and session management

2005-10-10 Thread Adrian Robert
On Oct 10, 2005, at 10:30 AM, Markus Hitter wrote: Am 10.10.2005 um 14:09 schrieb Richard Frith-Macdonald: I guess the idea of a user default is best then ... if GWorkspace is used as an X-windows session manager, you could use a command- line argument to tell it to terminate

Re: OpenOffice.org on OS X and GNUstep

2005-10-07 Thread Adrian Robert
On Oct 6, 2005, at 10:17 AM, Stefan Urbanek wrote: Hi, Following article made me think: http://macslash.org/article.pl? sid=05/10/05/1132218mode=threadthreshold=-1 What do you think about showing, in some official way, to the OO.org development community, that there is GNUstep that can

Re: GNUstep and session management

2005-10-07 Thread Adrian Robert
On Oct 7, 2005, at 3:50 PM, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: Let's just stop putting up theories about how it may or may not work on OSX and instead start designing a way that would work for us. I think we should try to follow OS X behavior to make things easier for people porting or maintaining

Re: Time to communicate

2005-10-05 Thread Adrian Robert
On Oct 5, 2005, at 12:01 PM, Helge Hess wrote: On 5. Okt 2005, at 17:56 Uhr, Adrian Robert wrote: For example, even in the relatively huge Gnome project with Ximian pumping in venture capital, they had to practically kill themselves to deliver Evolution. Could you elaborate

Re: GNUstep base vs libobjc

2005-09-21 Thread Adrian Robert
On Sep 21, 2005, at 3:55 AM, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: Quoting percy tiglao [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I do not feel like stepping all the way into the NeXT framework, but I'd like to use Objc as a development language (I'm going to be building games, and portability to both Windows and Linux is a top

Re: Does anyone else find the main site confusing?

2005-09-19 Thread Adrian Robert
On Sep 16, 2005, at 10:19 PM, Christopher Armstrong wrote: And shouldn't Gorm/ProjectCenter be listed under Developers? They're the development tools for developers. The news way of locating them is error-prone, and we seriously risk losing people's attention who may or may not be interested

Re: Documentation in OpenOffice format

2005-08-29 Thread Adrian Robert
On Aug 29, 2005, at 4:56 AM, Stefan Urbanek wrote: Hi, I would like to write StepTalk documentation in OpenOffice.org writer/draw/impress format. Can I upload such documentation into CVS? Also, should I put PDF versions there too or generate PDFs only for .tar.gz? There are several reasons

Re: Summary: Xft problem on Solaris (was building back)

2005-08-25 Thread Adrian Robert
On Aug 25, 2005, at 9:46 AM, Andreas Höschler wrote: Hello all, I was finally able to build latest back on Solaris 9 after manually adding typedef unsigned int FT_UInt; typedef struct FT_LibraryRec_ *FT_Library; typedef struct FT_FaceRec_* FT_Face; to

Re: modal dialogs

2005-08-17 Thread Adrian Robert
On Aug 17, 2005, at 5:00 PM, Marc Brünink wrote: Hi List, we're running GNUstep on a Windows machine. Probably everyone know that ;-) We've an application which opens modal dialogs (NSAlertPanel, NSOpenPanel, ...). If such a dialog pops up and the user clicks on the main window of the

Re: Need MacOS X installation help

2005-08-03 Thread Adrian Robert
On Aug 3, 2005, at 11:06 AM, Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: On 2005-08-03 15:51:50 +0100 Yves de Champlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] darwin.org wrote: Eek! I'd rather not install yet another version of gcc... I have three now (default apple, 3.3.5 and 3.3.6), and some parts of 3.4 as well

Re: anyone know of a objective c parser?

2005-07-15 Thread Adrian Robert
On Jul 15, 2005, at 6:43 PM, la le wrote: does anyone know of a objective c parser?, i need to extract all the info from @interface declarations (class name, class super, varibale names, if they are protected/priveate/public, method names and its variables), and also from @implementation

Re: ProjectCenter fonts

2005-06-29 Thread Adrian Robert
On Jun 29, 2005, at 5:30 PM, Jon Brisbin wrote: Also, there's a preferences box that asks for the Editor, which is defaulted to ProjectCenter. I tried putting Emacs in there (I've got the Emacs.app for GNUstep installed) and just about every other editor I've got on my box. It shot up an

Re: Command Key on Windows/Solaris

2005-05-13 Thread Adrian Robert
On May 13, 2005, at 3:13 PM, Andreas Höschler wrote: I tried defaults write NSGlobalDomain GSFirstCommandKey Alt_L Unfortunately this did not help. Alt-q etc. is still not working. Shouldn't it work now? You might try to the GSTest app

Re: Command Key on Windows/Solaris

2005-05-11 Thread Adrian Robert
On May 11, 2005, at 12:48 PM, Andreas Höschler wrote: Hi all, ... How can we define which key on the keyboard should work as the Command key? We also try to get this figured out for a Sun Solaris machine. The Sun keyboards has no Apple and no Windows-Key but even another weird one between

Re: GNUstep Coding Standard Additions

2005-05-08 Thread Adrian Robert
I think we are agreed that we want to categorise a method/class by the version where it was introduced, and the version where it was removed (NeXT/Apple have removed some things from their APIs) This sounds like a good plan. Just to be clear, deprecation does NOT count as removal, right? I

Re: Objective-C++

2005-04-26 Thread Adrian Robert
On Apr 26, 2005, at 6:13 PM, Mike Stump wrote: I'm pushing the Objective-C++ frontend into the FSF source tree on mainline. This is great news. Since I participated in some of the moaning that we on the discuss-gnustep list generated in the past over gcc ObjC support in general and ObjC++ in

Re: GNUstep Coding Standard Additions

2005-04-24 Thread Adrian Robert
On Apr 24, 2005, at 12:49 AM, Sheldon Gill wrote: There are some things which don't seem clear from the coding standards. This has lead to things being done differently in various places. I think it is a good idea to clean up and standardise. Hence, I'm proposing a number of

Re: GNUStep User introduction

2005-04-22 Thread Adrian Robert
On 2005-04-22 17:49:20 -0400 Nicolas Roard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le 22 avr. 05, à 15:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Hi, i'm new to GNUStep and had no experience with Nextstep or Openstep. I looked for a non windows like approach to Graphical Desktops and found it rather intresting.

ANN: Emacs on GNUstep / OS X 8.0-rc1

2005-03-07 Thread Adrian Robert
Hi all, I've released the first rc version of Emacs for GNUstep / OS X at: http://emacs-on-aqua.sf.net/ What is Emacs on GNUstep / OS X? GNU Emacs 20.7 ported to the Cocoa / GNUstep APIs. Fully supports OS X and GNUstep desktop environments and enhances Emacs by

Re: Look and Feel

2005-02-28 Thread Adrian Robert
To answer the question: as long as GNOME have made their file dialogue make it obvious how to: * set the filename * set the directory (GNUstep's is a little weak on this) * set the file type, if such things are in their file dialogue ...then I think it's fine and probably better than imitating

Re: backart - default backend?

2005-02-15 Thread Adrian Robert
On Feb 15, 2005, at 8:20 AM, MJ Ray wrote: Andrew Ruder asked: Is there really some reason that we are continuing to have the -art backend *not* be the default backend? I am still using -xlib because the last time I tried -art, I found: 1. I couldn't get non-Latin1 fonts to work; 2. it seemed

Re: Look and Feel

2005-02-14 Thread Adrian Robert
Yep -- the dots represent arrows in either direction, which seems more iconic than just the bar that GNUstep currently has. Not sure if this was the intention but only being able to grab at the corners can be annoying. A bar along the bottom (iconically marked or otherwise) costs some extra