Donated. Can’t afford much at the moment unfortunately, but definitely a worthy cause!Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 19, 2024, at 20:50, Gregory Casamento wrote:All,After some discussion with some other members of the community I am shifting the focus of this effort. It is better to focus on two
My vote is the "prominent place" option even though I admit it does detract somewhat from a clean aesthetic. But I
think it's worth it. By having it in a prominent location, the most direct effect is that it will be easier to find. I don't
think that matters as much for developers, most of whom
Bruce,Have you trieddefaults write NSGlobalDomain NSMenuInterfaceStyle NSWindows95InterfaceStyleThat will put the menus at the top of each window. Abandoning cocoa doesn’t make much sense. What I think is absolutely a good idea would be someone adopting the gtk theme and giving it some love. Sent
I’m far from the being an authority on ObjC relative to others on this
listserv, but I’ll take a stab at responding. The reason ObjC has its syntax is
largely because it was developed around the same time as C++ (slightly after,
but close enough) — in other words, it was developed at a time
I’m very much in favor of protesting the unnecessary obsolescence of perfectly
good technologies, but FTP is a pretty terrible protocol. Securing an FTP
server properly is a bit of a minefield, particularly if you need to
accommodate active mode. Of course, many tools and methods exist to do
etc. and ill set aside a repo for it. it can also host apps etc but that has to be built by someone else --Sent from CanaryOn Mittwoch, Okt. 18, 2023 at 3:16 PM, Daniel Boyd <danieljb...@icloud.com> wrote: That’s awesome—let me know if I you can use any helpSent from my iPhoneOn
ly we will get there eventually.So once we decide the parameters and build structure we want, we can make it happen. On Mittwoch, Okt. 18, 2023 at 2:35 PM, Daniel Boyd <danieljb...@icloud.com> wrote: I haven't followed all discussions but if there is someone who sets up a private debian
e).
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> -- hns
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>> Am 18.10.2023 um 15:35 schrieb Daniel Boyd :
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>> I know this isn’t the first time we’ve discussed getting clang-based gnustep
>> into Debian. Since Debian 12 just came out, I assume our next opportunity is
>> Debian 13? What prevented us f
:20, H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
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>> Am 18.10.2023 um 14:43 schrieb Daniel Boyd :
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>> The problem with a desktop environment metapackage is that gnustep is not a
>> desktop environment. Window Maker *uses* gnustep, but it is not gnustep
>> proper. In the
t;> Am 18.10.2023 um 07:11 schrieb H. Nikolaus Schaller :
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>>>> Am 18.10.2023 um 00:15 schrieb Daniel Boyd :
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>>> Yeah you're right -- that was oversimplifying.
>>>
>>> I think you need several metapackages
>
obvious to someone new to the project.)On Oct 17, 2023, at 4:39 PM, Riccardo Mottola
wrote:Hi,Daniel Boyd wrote:Project goal should be for the instructions to get a working gnustep environment (in Debian) to be as simple as:> sudo
apt install gnustepthat's oversimplifying, but something al
Can confirm. I’m starting on a new project where I’m going to be pushing a bunch of GNUStep apps into Debian-based Docker containers in the cloud and I ended up setting up my own apt server to host the gnustep packages (which I stole from Andreas’s apt server. Thanks, Andreas, by the way
> it would be positive to support it
Right—because GNUstep targets Windows and Linux, too, both of which attempt to
support mouse and touch simultaneously. (At least GNOME does, anyway)
> They shall not automatically hide! That's NeXT design - never hide something,
> deactivate it.
Riccardo—I’ll be the first to agree with you that autohiding scrollbars are
usually terrible. I say “usually”, because there is a notable exception: touch
UIs. In a touch UI, scrollbars themselves
One reason a theme using native windows 10 widgets might not appear “modern” to some people is bc those are legacy widgets for Microsoft. Their latest widgets are in the “WinUI” framework. Probably would be worthwhile to create a WinUI theme. And there it would be important to get the spacing
I run Sombre on all of my apps at work. It’s pretty slickGreg—some of the controls in Gorm are hard to read under Sombre. (In the inspector, if memory serves). So I currently run Gorm and ProjectCenter with GSTheme which isn’t a huge deal, but would be cool to have my whole setup working with
For what it’s worth, I think we also need to shift our priorities and
expectations in our new ChatGPT reality. I recently coded a perl/wxwidgets app.
I have some old perl code and I have been wanting to add a GUI to it forever.
My point is that I was never able to get off the ground with
Figured it out—figured I’d post the answer here in case anyone else has the
same question.
https://github.com/gnustep/tools-make/blob/master/README.Packaging
Documentation in the link above.
Basically you do:
> make
> make install DESTDIR=/my/temp/dir
make will create your directory
For a little context, I'm looking to deploy a few GNUstep apps I've written
to a bunch of employees in my office and I think apt would be the most
straightforward way to do this. I really don't want install git everywhere
and compile my source code on 30 computers every time I make a change.
I
Can someone provide me with a tutorial on how to make a .deb file from a
GNUstep project?
I tried to do this myself today and getting linker errors all over the
place..
I noticed there's a 'deb.make' file under Makefiles/Master. But not sure how
to make it work.
Thanks!
Daniel
Riccardo,
Thanks for the response. I agree there is certainly a distinction between the
user types and I, as a developer myself, was referring to #2. However, I
disagree that catering to each group is equally important at this juncture for
two reasons:
1) GNUstep doesn’t currently have
I think the decision needs to tie back to the core mission of the project. I’m
not 100% sure what that is. Is it “Grow the GNUStep user base?” Or is it
“Maintain a fully copy-left tool chain?” Or some combination?
Honesty, either way, I think llvm/clang is the right choice right now. The
),
but not the version I'm running on my development machine (v1.20.9.0). I'm
going to see if I can figure out which commit broke things in their source
tree. Going to have to install Visual Studio so I can compile it heh. Yuck.
-Original Message-
From: Daniel Boyd
Sent: Tuesday, January
I am developing apps for my work in Windows Subsystem for Linux. My company
is a Windows shop and I prefer developing using clang/libobjc2, so WSL has
provided a good fit for me.
On my main development machine, things mostly work well, though there is an
occasional graphics glitch that seems to
Given these constraints, seems like a GNUStep-maintained apt repository is the
answer, right? If you want the GCC packages, you can get them from Debian. If
you want libobjc2/clang packages, you install the GNUStep apt repository.
I remember seeing the idea of an apt repository discussed awhile
It’s funny. I originally got into GNUStep because I’m a history buff and the
NeXT era of Steve Job’s career fascinates me.
I was and still am fascinated by how modern it is, despite most of the concepts
dating back to like 1990. I expected GNUStep to be a window into the early days
of
> defaults write NSGlobalDomain GSScaleFactor X
Where X is your scale factor (e.g. 1.5 for 1.5X scaling)
You can also change this on a per-app basis by setting it to the app's domain
instead of NSGlobalDomain
From: Discuss-gnustep
On Behalf Of bruce
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 1:17 PM
I am working on making some reusable GUI elements and would like to include
a gorm file in a library so that I don't have to create all of the UI
elements programmatically.
I started out by creating the gorm file in an application. Is there a
straight-forward way to use the gorm file from my
be a better
approach--the matrix was just the first thing that popped in my mind.
-Original Message-
From: Riccardo Mottola
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2021 4:19 PM
To: Daniel Boyd ; 'Discuss-gnustep Discuss'
Subject: Re: Web site matrix
Hi Daniel,
Daniel Boyd wrote:
>
> I think
, August 16, 2021 8:34 AM
To: Daniel Boyd
Cc: Discuss-gnustep Discuss
Subject: Re: Web site matrix
Am 15.08.2021 um 18:11 schrieb Daniel Boyd mailto:danieljb...@icloud.com> >:
I think the web site could benefit from a matrix along these lines:
This is just a example. Obviously,
You can run libobjc2 in windows under wsl. That’s what I’m using for my
development environment currently. Works well
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 24, 2021, at 5:51 PM, Bob Plymale wrote:
>
> Wanted to port my Mac app over using existing code, but I think I am beat
> and will just go c++
>
For what it’s worth, I’ve had good luck running the Linux builds in Windows
under WSL. Just install an X server like vcxsrv
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 22, 2021, at 12:21 PM, Bob Plymale wrote:
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>
> Starting clean I installed msys2 and then ran the below script and received
> the
nonverbal context.
Anyway, just wanted to pass on my two cents. I appreciate all the work you all
have done and I really do love this little project.
Daniel Boyd
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 18, 2021, at 6:55 PM, Gregory Casamento
> wrote:
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> I agree with everything
this:
#import //<-- unixODBC include file
#undef BOOL // <-- this reverts back to the objc/runtime.h typedef
I'm not 100% sure whether this will break things in unixodbc, but all of my
code appears to be working so far ...
From: Discuss-gnustep
On Behalf Of Daniel
Boyd
Sent: Thursda
When I call a method in one of my ObjC libraries, I'm getting a bunch of
'incorrect signature' errors. E.g.:
Calling [Pg -executeBind:] with incorrect signature. Method has C24@0:8@16
(C24@0:8@16), selector has i24@0:8@16
Everything seems to work OK. just get that error printed out all
Agree -- When I have a new project, I usually find myself leaning towards
ObjC unless there's a really good reason to use something else. It's just a
great language that's stood the test of time
-Original Message-
From: Discuss-gnustep
On Behalf Of Fred
Kiefer
Sent: Saturday, January 23,
status
From: Gregory Casamento
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 4:37 PM
To: Daniel Boyd
Cc: Frederik Seiffert ; Discuss-gnustep Discuss
Subject: Re: MSYS2 build problem
Did you try the script I sent you? The Travis CI stuff should work as well,
but I am just wondering. Thanks.GC
Are you building libobjc2/clang or gcc?
From: Frederik Seiffert
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 10:43 AM
To: Daniel Boyd
Cc: Discuss-gnustep Discuss
Subject: Re: MSYS2 build problem
Hi Daniel,
This should work as we’re building Base with MSYS2 successfully on Travis CI.
Maybe
I am following the instructions on the web site for building in MSYS2 and
I'm running into an error with the libffi library.
These are the instructions I'm using
http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/Installation_MSYS2
and this is the error I get running ./configure for base
checking FFI
in -[NSApplication run] (self=0xfc56e8, _cmd=0x6f2544c8) at
NSApplication.m:1553
#38 0x6f0413f6 in NSApplicationMain (argc=1, argv=0x10ae880) at
Functions.m:91
#39 0x0040daae in main (argc=1, argv=0x10ae880) at Sections_main.m:28
-Original Message-
From: Daniel Boyd
Sent: Wednesday
Of Niels
Grewe
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 12:44 AM
To: discuss-gnustep@gnu.org
Subject: Re: debug question
Hi Daniel,
On 15.09.20 22:45, Daniel Boyd wrote:
>
> [Inferior 1 (process 29596) exited with code 03]
>
> (gdb) bt
>
> No stack.
What's happening here is th
Is there a way I can get gdb to give me more useful information than:
[Inferior 1 (process 29596) exited with code 03]
(gdb) bt
No stack.
I’m not sure if I can help at all, but I’m super excited to see this project
get off the ground. It will make managing my Linux boxes so much easier. I
don’t have any particular expertise here, but am happy to help with testing or
similar.
From: Discuss-gnustep
On Behalf Of Gregory
I think this is a better intro guide:
http://www.gnustep.org/resources/documentation/Developer/Base/ProgrammingManual/manual_1.html
As for why your code isn’t compiling, tough to say without seeing hello.m, but
couple thoughts: did you include
#import
And in your interface declaration, did
I have been trying with no success to use libmysql in Windows.
In my latest attempt, I downloaded this file:
http://devpaks.org/details.php?devpak=105
In ProjectCenter, I added libmysql.a to my libraries. Then, I added
the include directory in the project inspector.
Here is the relevant
I'm having trouble to get drag drop to work on my windows machine.
I'm kind of new to GNUStep, so I'm not sure if I'm doing something
wrong, or if what I'm doing isn't supported.
I want to be able to drag a file from Windows Explorer into an NSBox object.
I ran this code on the box:
[myBox
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