Re: Memory usage of GNUstep processes

2007-12-15 Thread Chris Vetter
On Dec 14, 2007, at 6:20 PM, Pete French wrote: Thanks for this info!!! That is general unix behaviour or do Solaris, MacOSX, Linux,... have a different flavour of handling these kind of things All have different flavours - I only recently found out that FreeBSD actually returns the memory to

Re: NSWorkspace -launchedApplications does not track crashed applications

2007-03-13 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2007-03-13 06:46:44 +0100 Yen-Ju Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I notice that if an application terminates abnormally, NSWorkspace won't know it and -laucnhedApplications still return that application. [...] Occasionally (more often than not) I even 'see' applications in that list that have

RE: WindowMaker Dock problem

2007-03-10 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2007-03-10 00:42:19 +0100 Nicola Pero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to provide us with more information on your environment. ;-) Anyway, it looks like you are on GNU/Linux, and are trying to start up an application without sourcing GNUstep.sh. Good. :-) If so, did you add

Re: a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-01 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2007-03-01 14:06:41 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, I did not understand the text... But the pictures look like it can be easily implemented using WebKit. Using WebKit you could write a browser with almost no line of code. Well, there is no WebKit for

Re: a web-browser UI concept

2007-03-01 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2007-03-01 21:02:46 +0100 Stefan Bidigaray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seeing as no one has said it, there's also Amaya! It's the W3C's, which means it's only dependency is libwww. It was recently ported to Cocoa (according to their website) but I don't know where to find that code. The

Re: Problem after building new GNUstep version

2007-02-25 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2007-02-24 16:03:28 +0100 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have upgraded to the latest GNUstep . When I start a specific tool now (depending on several frameworks) I get Error (objc-load):ld.so.1: SmartsoftWeb: fatal: libgnustep-gui.so.0.10: open failed: No such file or

Re: Problem after building new GNUstep version

2007-02-25 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2007-02-24 16:03:28 +0100 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I have removed libgnustep-gui.so.0.10 from /opt/GNUstep after installing the new GNustep version and rebuilt all my stuff. All compiled libs and applications should now reference libgnustep-gui.so.0.12, but it seems

Re: Problem after building new GNUstep version

2007-02-25 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2007-02-25 12:28:04 +0100 Fred Kiefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are on Linux ldd on the executable should do the trick. At least this is was Nicola tells me. He's on Solaris, which also has ldd(1) -- Chris ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing

Re: Fucked up gnustep-make

2007-02-14 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2007-02-14 01:15:40 +0100 Nicola Pero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If so, I guess the configure script needs to check that it has gnu-make before trying to use it. Any chance you could submit a patch to fix it? See the links to WIKI above. I checked the links and I couldn't find any patch.

Re: Fucked up gnustep-make

2007-02-14 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2007-02-13 23:38:53 +0100 Adam Fedor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This language really isn't appropriate for this list. I agree, somewhat. Hard-coding path or tool names, simply assuming that certain flags of tools exist and/or do the same thing on platforms other than your own, using

Re: Fucked up gnustep-make

2007-02-14 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2007-02-14 01:31:31 +0100 Nicola Pero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And to top it of, even though 'make --version' fails, the script is happily running along. Instead, it should complain about the non-GNU make(1) and quit. Why would you want it to quit ? Whether to quit or not certainly

Fucked up gnustep-make

2007-02-13 Thread Chris Vetter
Hi, gs_cv_make_version=`make --version | head -1 | sed -e 's/^[^0-9]*//'` :0 make --version make: illegal option -- - usage: make [-BPSXeiknqrstv] [-C directory] [-D variable] [-d flags] [-E variable] [-f makefile] [-I directory] [-j max_jobs] [-m directory] [-V

Re: Fucked up gnustep-make

2007-02-13 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2007-02-13 21:40:26 +0100 Richard Frith-Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect that comments like that do a lot to put developers off working on GNUstep, doing immeasurably more harm than breakage of code in svn-trunk. The implied notion that a change must be tested on all platforms

Re: problem in terminating Application

2006-12-16 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-12-16 10:57:15 +0100 Pradip Patel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] -i want to launch application in minimize mode...but it's not done with above code.. -How can i terminate launched application ? Is there any cocoa class to launch application in minimized and after some time to

Re: memory leak

2006-11-29 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-11-29 18:55:15 +0100 Marc Brünink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: today I discovered a memory leak in one of our frameworks. I searched till I went mad, but didn't find anything. Has anyone a suggestion how to track this one down? The easiest way would be to replace NSObject's -init and

Re: plotting graphs

2006-11-25 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-11-25 06:16:14 +0100 tgate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone familiar with a plotting class library for charts and graphs that can be used with gnustep? I've looked into gnuplot but it seems unlikely to be able to easily integrate it into a custom NSView.

RE: Installing back (Local - System)

2006-11-24 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-11-24 18:26:52 +0100 Nicola Pero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It wasn't changed. ;-) [...] Out of curiosity , why IS there a difference between GNUstep/Local and GNUstep/System. Yes, I know, legacy support and all that. But, seriously, does it still make (much) sense? And no, this is

Re: Scrollbars.

2006-11-18 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-11-16 20:47:56 +0100 Richard Frith-Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] So this can be controlled either by a theme or directly by setting the NSScrollViewInterfaceStyle user default. [...] Good idea, and it works. Though it looks a bit weird, since the top 'box' (the one that

Re: Scrollbars.

2006-11-15 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-11-15 17:57:28 +0100 Benhur Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Oops, just realized that you also has to change inside the if (_hasVertScroller) in the drawRect: method to change + scrollerWidth into - 1, so that the separation line is drawn in the right place. If that really is

Re: Scrollbars.

2006-11-15 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-11-15 20:16:34 +0100 Graham J Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Rhapsody had NSUserInterfaceStyle (one of Nextstep, Macintosh, Windows IIRC) so maybe GSUserInterfaceStyle would be appropriate...? GNUstep already has NSUserInterfaceStyle. Position of the Scroller could be coupled

RE: command line tools and $PATH

2006-11-13 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-11-13 23:35:35 +0100 Vaisburd, Haim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] but what trouble can happen for a regular user? I think . at the end [...] Then you lack imagination. -- Chris ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org

GNUstep mentioned in article at informit.com

2006-10-23 Thread Chris Vetter
Hi folks, might be of interest to some, since GNUstep is mentioned: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=661370rl=1 The article talks about what makes a good programming language. -- Chris ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list

Re: Gorm compilation error

2006-09-11 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-09-11 15:02:01 +0200 Oliver Langer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi GSteppers, i have trouble compiling Gorm 1.1.0 with gs-gui (0.10.3) and gs-base 1.1.13. [...] Can somebody give me a hint what i am doing wrong here? Perhaps a library is missing? I looked for e.g. GSNibContainer and i

Bug or Expected Behaviour?

2006-09-08 Thread Chris Vetter
Hi, I just noticed that when a submenu is opened and you press a menu item key (say ALT+SHIFT+K for compacting a folder in GNUMail) nothing happens. You have to close the submenu first to use key shortcuts. Is that a bug or expected behaviour? If it's the latter, I'm not sure I like that...

Re: running make

2006-09-08 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-09-05 16:13:10 +0200 mcgurme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] You are basically right what you said up to here, but And that's the point. The reason Gnustep doesn't have more users is simple: 1. It has too much overhead to install and get running, but more importantly, 2. People such as

Re: make on multiprocessor machines

2006-09-07 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-09-07 11:41:30 +0200 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Obviously multiple threads/processes try to create the target dir at the same time which leads to the error. This renders the j option useless for us. Is this an issue in gnu make or in the GNUstep make package? Can

Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers]

2006-09-05 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-09-04 19:01:33 +0200 Andrew Sveikauskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] 3. An option to not show the app icon. [...] This is already implemented. You can set GSSuppressAppIcon = *BY; either on a per-application to suppress the application's miniwindow OR in NSGlobalDomain to

Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers]

2006-09-05 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-09-05 13:52:25 +0200 Richard Frith-Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The perennial debate about what's good/bad in a user interface is, IMO, just a waste of everyones time. Amen to that. Especially since any 5 people will have 6 or 7 different opinions on what really IS

Re: New to the List

2006-09-05 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-09-05 21:46:17 +0200 Nikolaus Waxweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome! :) Indeed. [...] and because of that I think I could help with some of the documentation/wiki (and maybe advocating the project). Yes! Your help will be much appreciated. [...] Especially if someone is

Re: running gnustep on Freebsd: how do i get it to run ...

2006-09-03 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-09-03 06:42:42 +0200 Andrew Sveikauskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/Platform:BSD After seeing this page in particular I feel like I should point something out. We can only add and refer to that we know about :-) [...] I tried to create an

Re: running gnustep on Freebsd: how do i get it to run ...

2006-09-02 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-09-03 01:56:10 +0200 g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] but when i type startx, i get the x windowing system. what do i need to do to get gnustep running and running at startup, when i turn on the computer. You do not 'run' GNUstep. First off, you should install GNUstep via

Re: really attracting developers

2006-08-31 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-30 19:44:27 +0200 Michael Thaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 30 August 2006 14:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True, especially regarding Gecko. However, using libwww WOULD be an idea for writing a _very_ simple webbrowser. I was thinking about that, using libwww as a bundle,

Wiki's main page

2006-08-31 Thread Chris Vetter
Hi, have you seen http://mediawiki.gnustep.org/index.php/User_talk:Madleser ? Looks MUCH better than the current main page. I'm all in favour for replacing... -- Chris ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org

Re: These NeXTbuntu guys (fwd)

2006-08-30 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-29 15:06:00 +0200 Marc Brünink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Agreed, however, if any window manager hangs you're in deep shit anyway. I do not know if you get it right. It's not that Window Maker hangs but any other application. WindowMaker is just not able to focus another window

Re: These NeXTbuntu guys

2006-08-30 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-29 16:32:24 +0200 Sašo Kiselkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Höschler wrote: We run EtoileMenuServer.app. I just checked the flower - Applications - Application List, but selecting this menu item gives me nothing. I not even get an error message on the console!? As you might

Re: Thoughts triggered by these NeXTbuntu guys

2006-08-30 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-30 08:31:01 +0200 Jeremy Tregunna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then if we get a person who is able to contribute there is another thing that I consider the second most important problem - the copyright assignment to FSF. Amen to that. This topic deserves another message with a

Re: These NeXTbuntu guys (fwd)

2006-08-30 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-30 11:57:39 +0200 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't run Window Maker in a long time, but I'm sure I never seen that behaviour. Does that mean you can't even focus, say, an xterm? It means i can do nothing after clicking on an app in the dock when it hangs during

Re: really attracting developers

2006-08-30 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-30 04:18:36 +0200 Jason Clouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I was working on a CoreFoundation implementation, but I hear that WebKit is totally abandoning Cocoa, so I'm not sure it makes a difference now. :-( Wouldn't make sense. They (that is, the WebKit developers) are said to

Re: Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-29 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-28 16:21:12 +0200 Charles Philip Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't heard anyone mentioning Bowman in years. I don't think it exist anymore. If anyone is interested, I still have the sources flying around somewhere on my box. For those who do not know about Bowman, it was

Re: really attracting developers

2006-08-29 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-28 18:43:57 +0200 Nikolaus Waxweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The web API documentation is currently synchronised. No, not really. Just look at http://mediawiki.gnustep.org/index.php/AppKit and http://mediawiki.gnustep.org/index.php/Foundation. They consist mostly of red

Re: really attracting developers

2006-08-29 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-29 09:40:22 +0200 Rogelio Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] i looked at amaya and i got stuck in the wxwindows parts too. but it looks more promising than the others. maybe we need to come up with an alternative engine. its ironic considering the www was invented on a next cube.

Re: These NeXTbuntu guys

2006-08-29 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-29 12:58:35 +0200 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] • If an app hangs Window Maker is dead. No chance to start Terminal.app to kill the application. This is not acceptable. Agreed, however, if any window manager hangs you're in deep shit anyway. • As far as we know

Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-28 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-28 03:03:28 +0200 Rogelio M. Serrano Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A new window manager needs to be written but then again its just a very big job. Is it really? All a _window_ manager has to do is _manage_ windows. That is, (create and) open them, move them around and (some way

Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-28 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-28 13:43:08 +0200 Peter Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I suspect, like many things, it's an All-The-World-Is-Linux problem. [...] It is. After I copied the related line(s) from my FreeBSD's /etc/termcap over to my Solaris box, it worked. -- Chris

Re: Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-28 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-28 14:58:27 +0200 Pete French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not give Azalea a try ? Umm, silly question - but where can I download this from ? There's no FreeBSD port for Azalea or Etoile that I can find (not a good start) nor is there an obvious link from the etoile pages to

Re: These NeXTbuntu guys

2006-08-27 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-27 17:45:27 +0200 Andrew Sveikauskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of curiosity I googled nextbuntu to see if they've managed to put up any material other than a blog. It seems they have already been lectured about this on Ubuntu forums this past July: Not just that, someone

Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-27 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-27 22:35:37 +0200 Nicolas Roard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] In fact... I'm starting more and more to think that GNUstep, instead of trying to be a jack of all trades -- I mean, it's a programming toolkit, no, a development environment with RAD, no, a web application server, no, a

Re: Newbie installation question

2006-08-26 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-26 12:53:39 +0200 Marc Brünink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once more a posting about how to open applications. Perhaps we should place the getting started guide somewhere else. Oh ah. Do we have a getting started guide? (I guess somewhere in the wiki??) A Build Guide can be found

Re: Newbie installation question

2006-08-26 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-26 13:22:48 +0200 Marc Brünink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] So why do not link this here? http://www.gnustep.org/information/gethelp.html The Build Guide is linked TO from the Wiki site ( http://mediawiki.gnustep.org/index.php/GNUstep_Installation_Process ) I guess it would be a

Re: really attracting developers

2006-08-26 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-26 21:47:02 +0200 Philippe C.D. Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [... some very good points ...] just my $0.02... and now hit me ;-) Seconded -- Chris ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org

Re: really attracting developers

2006-08-25 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-25 12:05:48 +0200 Rogelio Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whats keeping other developers from gnustep? That's the crucial question, isn't it? incomplete ide? Gorm, while probably not finished, is very stable and usable. incomplete nextstep based system? GNUstep is a

Re: [Fwd: Re: really attracting developers]

2006-08-25 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-25 14:16:28 +0200 Marc Brünink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: incomplete libraries? That's open to debate. If you compare it to Cocoa, yes, it's incomplete. Question is how far the completeness is supposed to go (with respect to Cocoa). Libraries are complete enough to write nice

Re: Etoile on Solaris

2006-08-24 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-24 14:14:52 +0200 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you send us your modified source tree of Etoile that builds on Solaris? I didn't modify anything, except for a couple of changes in GWorkspace's configure scripts, due to the fact that the required SQLite3 version

Re: Etoile on Solaris

2006-08-24 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-24 20:35:44 +0200 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: typedef is no strict C and does not seem to be supported by gcc without further ado. You haven't had this problem? Any ideas? Nope, never encountered this particular problem. Which (version of) GCC are you using? You're

Re: Webkit for GNUstep

2006-08-08 Thread Chris . Vetter
Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: Another alternative would be trying to port Camino ( http:// www.caminobrowser.org/ ) once the Cocoa widgets are in place and the Cairo support is complete ( http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/josh/ archives/2006/07/updated_cocoa_firefox_build_un_1.html , http://

Re: Webkit for GNUstep

2006-08-03 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-03 21:45:05 +0200 Michael Thaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is it possible to compile Webkit using GNUstep? I looked at https://gna.org/projects/gswebkit, but it seems GNUstep WebKit is not developed anymore. The site mentions that the source code of WebCore and JavaScriptCore has to

Re: Webkit for GNUstep

2006-08-03 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-03 22:05:56 +0200 Billy Tallis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to write makefiles for everything. It is not an easy task. I have been able to get most of JavaScriptCore to compile, but I don't have access to a Mac with Xcode to figure out the rest. The alternative would be to write

Re: Uhm????

2006-07-30 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-07-30 15:13:29 +0200 Stupid Me wrote: [...] Ok, never mind, I forgot to include common.make *sigh* -- Chris ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep

Re: How to control when SUBPROJECTS are compiled ?

2006-07-30 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-07-30 19:03:12 +0200 Quentin Mathé [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] If you don't move your project code in subprojects, this isn't going to work because Project X and Project Y aren't subprojects but just different targets for the project (which owns the subprojects)… Hoping I have

Re: How to control when SUBPROJECTS are compiled ?

2006-07-30 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-07-30 19:37:37 +0200 Yves de Champlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't really know much how subprojects work so I can't say much, but theses two subprojects types are really two different things that happen to have the same name because of their nested structure. We could talk,

Library with Resources?

2006-07-27 Thread Chris Vetter
Hi, I need to install a library that has a Resources directory containing tiffs. Since, as far as I can figure out, libraries cannot have a Resources directory, I would have to make it a framework. However, there are no header files to be installed. So, I guess, my question is whether there

Re: NSPopUpButton bug

2006-07-26 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-07-26 12:59:04 +0200 Marc Brünink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: could someone please confirm this bug: If you stuff so many items in a NSPopUpButton that the height of the button is greater than your screen height you are in trouble. If, for example, you take a look at GNUMail's Font

Re: NSPopUpButton bug

2006-07-26 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-07-26 13:58:41 +0200 Marc Brünink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] So If you do not have this problem: Do you ever have had it? Was this fixed in cvs recently? I see what you mean. When I try to select a font 'higher up', the list is more or less properly scrolled. However, when I stop

Re: NSPopUpButton bug

2006-07-26 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-07-26 16:04:23 +0200 Gregory John Casamento [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A little more than you are in trouble might be helpful. What actually happens when you do this? See later mails ;-) As a side note, I would also say that, if you have a popup button like that, you may want to

Re: gcc warning (_OBJC_INSTANCE_2 defined ...)

2006-07-07 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-07-07 16:29:27 +0200 Helge Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to disable the warning? :-) Either remove -Wall or replace it with more specific warning settings. Not exactly sure with -W option triggers the warning. -- Chris

Re: gcc warning (_OBJC_INSTANCE_2 defined ...)

2006-07-07 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-07-07 18:31:42 +0200 Chris Vetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2006-07-07 16:29:27 +0200 Helge Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to disable the warning? :-) Either remove -Wall or replace it with more specific warning settings. Not exactly sure with -W option triggers

Re: Force Quit for GNUstep

2006-07-06 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-07-06 11:56:11 +0200 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on the Mac we have this Force Quit panel to kill applications that no longer respond to events. Does something equivalent exist for GNUstep? We developers use a terminal session and kill but that's no suitable appproach

Re: Force Quit for GNUstep

2006-07-06 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-07-06 14:40:32 +0200 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anybody gotten Etoile to work on Solaris? I just gave it a try but failed (might be our rather old code tree). Is Etoile already usuable? Etoile as a whole isn't usable yet, only a couple of things, like Chamaelon,

ANN: Tryst 108

2006-07-01 Thread Chris Vetter
Hi, almost 2 and a half year, I'm happy to announce the release of a new version of Tryst (yes, I WAS still working on it :-) * What is it? Tryst is a library implementing the missing NSNetService and NSNetServiceBrowser classes. Bonjour [1], formerly known as Rendezvous, allows you to

Re: Building GWorkspace on Solaris 10

2006-06-26 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-06-26 12:24:38 +0200 Enrico Sersale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've fixed this. Noticed the SVN update. With 3002002 some tools (actually not active as gmds and mdextractor), don't work. But this is not a problem for ddbd (file annotations, lsfolders and, in the future, thumbnails

Re: POC / gcc

2006-06-09 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-06-09 10:28:05 +0200 Marc Brünink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Secondly, honest to God actual closures (called blocks for some reason). Closures!? Neat! I want closures, too Now !! :-) You can implement blocks (or closures) using macros. It's not trivial, but relatively simple.

Re: POC / gcc

2006-06-09 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-06-09 11:19:10 +0200 Graham J Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] There's some info on that at CocoaDev, start with this page: http://www.cocoadev.com/index.pl?HigherOrderMessaging [...] See also http://mediawiki.gnustep.org/index.php/HOM For GNUstep, KoBase already offers HOM. --

Re: Text Cursor Problem

2006-06-09 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-06-09 13:54:41 +0200 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The cursor remains to be a bar. Can anybody confirm this observation? [...] I can. Occasionally it also happens after editing a text, eg. in GNUMail. As far as I can tell, it seems to be pretty random. -- Chris

Re: Preserving newlines

2006-06-08 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-06-08 17:57:22 +0200 Nate Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So when I run it, and enter in: Hi\n That is four (4) characters you entered It prints out: output: |Hi\n| So four (4) characters are printed, but I want it to print out: output: |Hi | and not three (3) as you would want

Re: GNUstep on Solaris

2006-05-31 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-05-31 19:20:16 +0200 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I just played around with TextEdit.app on Solaris (Sun Ray) and realized that the Emacs Keybindings do not work as expected. Ctrl-a and Ctrl-e do work but Ctrl-k just beeps. Pressing the Alt Graph key (e.g. for

Re: A question about categories

2006-05-08 Thread Chris Vetter
Hmm, I think my original mail never got through, so here's a re-sent: On 2006-05-05 20:53:53 +0200 Vaisburd, Haim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way to call the original method within the implementation of my override, in this case the original [NSBitmapImageRep-destroy] ? Try

Re: Window Maker weirdness

2006-05-03 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-05-03 21:35:38 +0200 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have developed an app that behaves correctly when started with openapp from a terminal. However, if I drag the icon onto the dock in Window Maker, quit the app and start it by doubleclicking the icon in the dock it

Re: Window Maker weirdness

2006-05-03 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-05-03 21:55:27 +0200 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That depends on how your X session was started. I choose Window Maker from the dtlogin session menu on the Solaris login page. :-) Actually I have no idea what this does and how X is started. There are the files

Re: Window Maker weirdness

2006-05-03 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-05-03 22:04:23 +0200 Yen-Ju Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] If that is the case, maybe you should change it to openapp AnApplication.app. [...] Try to set openapp GNUMail.app %s for Command for middle-click launch and openapp GNUMail.app %d for Command for files dropped

Re: Menu Keys not Working in SVN version

2006-04-29 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-04-30 00:46:16 +0200 Charles Philip Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope this is not directed at me. ;-) No. -- Chris ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep

Re: [NSEvent isARepeat]

2006-04-28 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-04-28 09:49:36 +0200 Richard Frith-Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28 Apr 2006, at 10:23, Stephane Goujet wrote: A quick look at the backend source code reveals (back/Source/x11/ XGServerEvent.m) the line ... isARepeat: NO /* isARepeat can't be supported with X */ So the X11

Re: Start GNUstep.sh as early as possible in Xwindow session

2006-04-17 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-04-17 10:01:26 +0200 Charles Philip Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The difference between ~/.profile and ~/.bashrc is that ~/.profile only runs once when logging in as opposed to ~/.bashrc which runs every time you invoke a new shell. Yes, but not every shell looks for (and reads in)

Re: Start GNUstep.sh as early as possible in Xwindow session

2006-04-17 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-04-17 11:09:16 +0200 Charles Philip Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes you are correct, Do you know of any shell other than t/csh that does not read ~/.profile? For example, the ZSH doesn't even read /etc/profile, nor does it read ~/.profile. By default it's /etc/zprofile and

Re: Stack trace?

2006-04-12 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-04-12 03:44:33 +0200 Lloyd Dupont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: isn't there any way to get programatically the current stack trace? or at least the stack trace of an exception? [...] There is. But it requires a lot screwing around. I got a snipped around somewhere, if you're interested,

Re: NSFrameAddress

2006-04-12 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-04-12 03:55:56 +0200 Lloyd Dupont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I jsut discovered NSFrameAddress in NSDebug.h Looks very promizing in my case. But I have no idea how to use it... Any tips? You need to know how stack frames look like on your machine. You can use NSFrameAddress to 'define' a

Re: NSFrameAddress

2006-04-12 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-04-12 10:01:38 +0200 Lloyd Dupont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problem is... what do I do with a Frame? NSFrameAddress() return a void*. I don't kown what to do with it! Is there a way to get method name from this void*? Anyway I will also look at your code, thanks for it! Take a look at

Re: poseAsClass

2006-04-11 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-04-11 09:59:50 +0200 Lloyd Dupont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does poseAsClass work? Yes. Don't know whether this will help with your problem, but I put +poseAsClass: in +load, not in +initialize. -- Chris ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list

Re: starting GNUstep applications in freeBSD 6.0release

2006-04-11 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-04-10 22:31:30 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i just recently setup freeBSD 6.0 with windowmaker as my WM. i thought i would try some of these GNUstep apps to help finish out the desktop but i cannot seem to figure out how to start any of them. i installed several from ports and typing

Re: Disable MainMenu

2006-04-08 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-04-08 10:21:53 +0200 Marc Bruenink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: since I can access the MainMenu with a right mouse click - Is there a way to disable the sticky MainMenu? I really want no menu, unless I said so explicitly by pressing the right mouse button. There's no default setting or

Re: gnustep-make with ObjC++

2006-03-10 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-03-03 22:58:29 +0100 Yen-Ju Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried to compile PopplerKit with GNUmakefile on mac which uses a C wrap around C++ so that the rest can be ObjC. (ObjC - C - C++). It compiles fine, but has problem for linking because the C++ code. I tried to use .mm instead of

Re: NSNotificationQueue HowTo

2006-02-23 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-02-22 08:35:06 +0100 Lloyd Dupont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Now I would like to be able to fire all notification waiting in the queue: how could one do that? @implementation NSNotificationQueue (PendingNotifications) - (void) fireAllPendingNotifications { NSRunLoop *runLoop =

How to create header files before make(1) tries to build-headers

2006-02-23 Thread Chris Vetter
Hi, problem is that for a framework I need to create a couple of files via yacc(1) (yes, I know, don't ask) that include needed 'official' header files (that is, the header files will get installed later on). Now, easy (I thought) just create them via 'before-all::' in GNUmakefile.postamble.

Re: GNUstep with Cairo backend problem

2006-02-19 Thread Chris Vetter
Ok, here we go... On 2006-02-18 14:42:12 +0100 Chris Vetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I meant that whether you set --disable-glitz or not, back-cairo won't work (or to be more exact: I can't really say) because... As a side node, I use a self-made script that iterates through all the core

Re: GNUstep with Cairo backend problem

2006-02-18 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-02-18 02:57:04 +0100 Fred Kiefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Chris, Chris B. Vetter wrote: I tried both options, neither does work. could you just expalin, what you mean by this? It does not work, with the setting --disable-glitz? That's the one I am using myself, it should work. Or

Re: GNUstep and session management

2005-10-10 Thread Chris Vetter
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:56:25 +0400, Roman wrote: Richard Frith-Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I too. Adding a preference? (default off) Perhaps ... but another option I thought of would be to get the alert panel displayed when you quit from GWorkspace to provide a third option. At

Re: GNUstep and session management

2005-10-10 Thread Chris Vetter
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:47:36 +0800, Rogelio wrote: [...] Do we really need session management? Right now i just let windowmaker shut down everything and then let Login.App shutdown the machine. Thats almost ideal for me right now. Yes, for you maybe ;-) But different users have different uhm

Re: OpenOffice.org on OS X and GNUstep

2005-10-07 Thread Chris Vetter
On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 16:17:56 +0200, Stefan wrote: [...] - if they would use GNUstep, they will widen developer and support base to those who do not own a Mac and therefore do not have OS X - on OS X they would use Cocoa, on other platforms they can use GNUstep for development Yes, however,

Re: OpenOffice.org on OS X and GNUstep

2005-10-07 Thread Chris Vetter
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 11:09:14 +0200, Stefan wrote: Citát Chris Vetter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 16:17:56 +0200, Stefan wrote: [...] - if they would use GNUstep, they will widen developer and support base to those who do not own a Mac and therefore do not have OS X

Problem updating a (sub)menu

2005-10-06 Thread Chris Vetter
update]; [mainMenu update]; return; } The first NSLog shows no entries in -itemArray, the second shows the correct name of the file, the third NSLog shows that one NSMenuItem HAS been added -- which I figure should now be displayed, but it isn't. What am I missing? -- Chris Vetter -- GMX

Re: GNUstep and session management

2005-10-06 Thread Chris Vetter
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 10:50:22 +0200, Saso wrote: Quoting Roman Belenov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is there a fallback for applications that don't explicitly observe this notification (like passing terminate: to NSApplication instance) ? What about OpenStep or Mac OS X - do they have something like

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