Re: Problem on Solaris

2005-04-19 Thread Chris Vetter
All, I'm experiencing the following problem on Solaris: ld.so.1: /export/home/heron/Development/gnustep/dev-apps/Gorm/Gorm.app/Gorm: fatal: relocation error: file /usr/GNUstep/System/Library/Bundles/libgnustep-back.bundle/./libgnustep-back: symbol floorf: referenced symbol not found I'm

Re: Looking for an ObjectiveC Code Formatter

2005-05-17 Thread Chris Vetter
--- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: Stefan Kleine Stegemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: discuss-gnustep discuss-gnustep@gnu.org Betreff: Looking for an ObjectiveC Code Formatter Datum: Sat, 14 May 2005 18:30:50 +0200 Hi, does anyone know of a good code formatter for ObjectiveC? indent *ducks*

Re: 9 out of 10 geniuses prefer GNUstep!

2005-07-18 Thread Chris Vetter
--- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: Patrick McFarland [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: [EMAIL PROTECTED], discuss-gnustep@gnu.org, gnustep-dev@gnu.org Betreff: 9 out of 10 geniuses prefer GNUstep! Datum: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:04:49 -0400 [...] What do you think? Excellent. Already use it as my default

Uncaught exception WindowServerCommunication

2005-07-19 Thread Chris Vetter
Hi there, I finally found some time to install and play with GNUstep again (been way too long). So, now, I installed yesterday's (July 18, 2005) daily snapshot on FreeBSD 5.4 and everything went smoothly until I tried to launch an(y) application: chuck:cbv:0 gdomap -N Registered names are -

Re: Uncaught exception WindowServerCommunication

2005-07-20 Thread Chris Vetter
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:09:37 Adam wrote: Seems odd. Is your DISPLAY environment variable set to that, or does GNUstep want to use this on it's on? What happens when you specifically set DISPLAY to chuck...:0.0? Do xterm and others still start? DISPLAY is set to the FQDN:0.0 by default. I

Re: Uncaught exception WindowServerCommunication

2005-07-20 Thread Chris Vetter
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 09:15:50 I wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:09:37 Adam wrote: Seems odd. Is your DISPLAY environment variable set to that, or does GNUstep want to use this on it's on? What happens when you specifically set DISPLAY to chuck...:0.0? Do xterm and others still start?

Question about NSRunLoop -runUntilDate:

2005-08-01 Thread Chris Vetter
Hi there, I need to create a runloop that's supposed to run for X minutes. Naturally, -runUntilDate: comes to mind. So far, so good. My question is whether there is an appropriate method to get some/any kind of 'notification' that the runloop has stopped. I do not really care whether it stops

Re: Question about NSRunLoop -runUntilDate:

2005-08-02 Thread Chris Vetter
On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 12:45:10 Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: [...] No ... runloops are meant to be thread-local, and it's not safe to monitor a runloop running in one thread from an other thread. If you want a notification when there are no more inputs for a runloop, you can just use

Re: GNUstep on the rise!

2005-08-04 Thread Chris Vetter
On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 09:50:47 Tabitha McNerney wrote: Hi all, I have to say that when I read this about DRM and Apple Intel machines: http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/08/01/0421248from=rss it made me realize even more so how important it is that GNUstep continue to rise to the

Re: GNUstep on the rise!

2005-08-04 Thread Chris Vetter
On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 12:26:47 Nicolas Roard wrote: [...] Well, GNUstep itself should stay as it is, cross-platform, indeed. Absolutely. [...] For me the only real option would indeed to have a GNUstep OS containing only GNUstep apps, to really have a consistent and powerful environment that

FYI: Guidebook interviewed John Gruber on OS X' UI design

2005-08-19 Thread Chris Vetter
Hullo, thought this might be of interest for all you UI enthusiasts... Guidebook has http://www.guidebookgallery.org/articles/interviewwithjohngruber up in which they interview long-time critic John Gruber on OS X' UI design. Pretty interesting read. Cheers, -- Chris -- Lust, ein paar Euro

Re: gnustep printing

2005-08-19 Thread Chris Vetter
A while ago, Robert Burns asked whether anyone was able to successfully print through CUPS using any GNUstep application. Gürkan Sengün replied that he also tried and wasn't able to print. I was just playing around with CUPS and decided to give it a try: Lo and behold, it DID work. To print, I

Re: Issues with Xorg.

2005-08-23 Thread Chris Vetter
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 17:19:58 Armando Di Cianno wrote: On 2005-08-22 16:46:31 -0400 Gregory John Casamento [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are several issues with Xorg which also need to be addressed. Apparently, the menu displays the window titlebar. I'll have to look further into this

Re: Building back on Solaris

2005-08-24 Thread Chris Vetter
--- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: discuss-gnustep@gnu.org Betreff: Building back on Solaris Datum: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 19:40:45 +0200 Hi all, I have manually modified config.make and replaced all occurances of openwin with local. Now I get

Re: Naming and other conventions

2005-08-31 Thread Chris Vetter
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:00:46, Stefan wrote: Hi, [...] far. I would like to know your opinion before I commit anything: [...] With respect to naming convention you might want to take a look at http://www.cocoadevcentral.com/articles/82.php and

Memory leaks?

2005-09-05 Thread Chris Vetter
Hi there, while testing and playing around with instance counting, I found that a simple void main(void) { NSAutoreleasePool *pool = nil; pool = [[NSAutoreleasePool alloc] init]; { NSObject *o; o = [[NSObject alloc] init]; NSLog(@-- %@, [o description]);

Re: Memory leaks?

2005-09-05 Thread Chris Vetter
On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 14:13:07, Nicola wrote: Ahm ... it would be a leak if every time you call NSLog, 50 objects get allocated and never released ... then the program would go on allocating more and more objects until eventually running out of memory. :-) But you called it just once. The

Re: Library dependency question

2005-09-12 Thread Chris Vetter
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 17:06:10, Nicola wrote: Which operating system (etc) are you using ? FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE GNUstep-core is daily snapshot from September 06, 2005 Exactly which error are you getting ? $ cd Example $ gmake Making all for tool example... Compiling file main.m ... Linking

gdomap problem

2005-09-12 Thread Chris Vetter
One more problem... chuck:root :0 gdomap -N No names currently registered with gdomap chuck:root :0 gdomap -L GNUstepGSPasteboardServer

Re: ANN: TimeMon-4.0

2005-09-15 Thread Chris Vetter
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:43:02, Greg wrote: ANNOUNCE: TimeMon [...] Attached you will find two unified DIFFs that will make TimeMon usable on FreeBSD as well, and stop with an error if the system is unknown. Makes for a cleaner implementation on different systems. -- Chris -- 5 GB Mailbox, 50

Re: writeData: does not send out data for 5-10 minutes

2005-09-19 Thread Chris Vetter
--- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: discuss-gnustep@gnu.org Betreff: writeData: does not send out data for 5-10 minutes On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 15:01:35, Andreas wrote: [...] On the remote machine I send stuff using - [NSFileHandle writeData:] and

Re: writeData: does not send out data for 5-10 minutes

2005-09-19 Thread Chris Vetter
On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 16:04:33, Andreas wrote: [...] You mean the data (n bytes) is actually sent by machineA and also received by machineB but NSFileHandleReadCompletionNotification is not posted until at least N (N n) bytes have been received? If anyhow possible I would like to use the

NSBundle exception

2005-09-21 Thread Chris Vetter
Hi, I just got a ./shared_obj/example: Uncaught exception NSGenericException, reason: method pathsForResourcesOfType:inDirectory:forLocalization: not implemented in NSBundle(instance) Is there some appropriate work-around for the missing method (besides sending an actual implementation for

Re: NSBundle exception

2005-09-23 Thread Chris Vetter
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 08:37:43, Adam wrote: On 2005-09-21 08:33:38 -0600 Chris Vetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got a ./shared_obj/example: Uncaught exception NSGenericException, reason: method pathsForResourcesOfType:inDirectory:forLocalization: not implemented in NSBundle

Re: [Q]WebKit on GNUstep, any success?

2005-10-05 Thread Chris Vetter
On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 16:20:09 +0900, Sungjin wrote: I know to use WebKit on GNUstep we need objc++ supported gcc(as far as I know, current development version supports this). Just curious, if anyone try WebKit and gcc-snapshot with GNUstep? That's why I installed gcc-4.1 on my box, to play

Problem updating a (sub)menu

2005-10-06 Thread Chris Vetter
update]; [mainMenu update]; return; } The first NSLog shows no entries in -itemArray, the second shows the correct name of the file, the third NSLog shows that one NSMenuItem HAS been added -- which I figure should now be displayed, but it isn't. What am I missing? -- Chris Vetter -- GMX

Re: GNUstep and session management

2005-10-06 Thread Chris Vetter
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 10:50:22 +0200, Saso wrote: Quoting Roman Belenov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is there a fallback for applications that don't explicitly observe this notification (like passing terminate: to NSApplication instance) ? What about OpenStep or Mac OS X - do they have something like

Re: GNUstep and session management

2005-10-06 Thread Chris Vetter
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 11:19:22 +, Richard wrote: On 2005-10-06 10:11:53 + Chris Vetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually played around with NSWorkspaceWillPowerOffNotification last night by posting this notification in one application, explicitly listening for it in another

Re: Problem updating a (sub)menu

2005-10-06 Thread Chris Vetter
On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 10:40:10 -0300, Benhur wrote: On 10/6/05, Chris Vetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, the submenu on screen never gets updated, that is, the entry is never shown, even if I use -update on the submenu or the main menu. I call sizeToFit in my code and it works. I took

Re: OpenOffice.org on OS X and GNUstep

2005-10-07 Thread Chris Vetter
On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 16:17:56 +0200, Stefan wrote: [...] - if they would use GNUstep, they will widen developer and support base to those who do not own a Mac and therefore do not have OS X - on OS X they would use Cocoa, on other platforms they can use GNUstep for development Yes, however,

Re: OpenOffice.org on OS X and GNUstep

2005-10-07 Thread Chris Vetter
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 11:09:14 +0200, Stefan wrote: Citát Chris Vetter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 16:17:56 +0200, Stefan wrote: [...] - if they would use GNUstep, they will widen developer and support base to those who do not own a Mac and therefore do not have OS X

Re: GNUstep and session management

2005-10-10 Thread Chris Vetter
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:56:25 +0400, Roman wrote: Richard Frith-Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I too. Adding a preference? (default off) Perhaps ... but another option I thought of would be to get the alert panel displayed when you quit from GWorkspace to provide a third option. At

Re: GNUstep and session management

2005-10-10 Thread Chris Vetter
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:47:36 +0800, Rogelio wrote: [...] Do we really need session management? Right now i just let windowmaker shut down everything and then let Login.App shutdown the machine. Thats almost ideal for me right now. Yes, for you maybe ;-) But different users have different uhm

Re: GNUstep with Cairo backend problem

2006-02-18 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-02-18 02:57:04 +0100 Fred Kiefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Chris, Chris B. Vetter wrote: I tried both options, neither does work. could you just expalin, what you mean by this? It does not work, with the setting --disable-glitz? That's the one I am using myself, it should work. Or

Re: GNUstep with Cairo backend problem

2006-02-19 Thread Chris Vetter
Ok, here we go... On 2006-02-18 14:42:12 +0100 Chris Vetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I meant that whether you set --disable-glitz or not, back-cairo won't work (or to be more exact: I can't really say) because... As a side node, I use a self-made script that iterates through all the core

Re: NSNotificationQueue HowTo

2006-02-23 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-02-22 08:35:06 +0100 Lloyd Dupont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Now I would like to be able to fire all notification waiting in the queue: how could one do that? @implementation NSNotificationQueue (PendingNotifications) - (void) fireAllPendingNotifications { NSRunLoop *runLoop =

How to create header files before make(1) tries to build-headers

2006-02-23 Thread Chris Vetter
Hi, problem is that for a framework I need to create a couple of files via yacc(1) (yes, I know, don't ask) that include needed 'official' header files (that is, the header files will get installed later on). Now, easy (I thought) just create them via 'before-all::' in GNUmakefile.postamble.

Re: gnustep-make with ObjC++

2006-03-10 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-03-03 22:58:29 +0100 Yen-Ju Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried to compile PopplerKit with GNUmakefile on mac which uses a C wrap around C++ so that the rest can be ObjC. (ObjC - C - C++). It compiles fine, but has problem for linking because the C++ code. I tried to use .mm instead of

Re: Disable MainMenu

2006-04-08 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-04-08 10:21:53 +0200 Marc Bruenink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: since I can access the MainMenu with a right mouse click - Is there a way to disable the sticky MainMenu? I really want no menu, unless I said so explicitly by pressing the right mouse button. There's no default setting or

Re: poseAsClass

2006-04-11 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-04-11 09:59:50 +0200 Lloyd Dupont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does poseAsClass work? Yes. Don't know whether this will help with your problem, but I put +poseAsClass: in +load, not in +initialize. -- Chris ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list

Re: starting GNUstep applications in freeBSD 6.0release

2006-04-11 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-04-10 22:31:30 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i just recently setup freeBSD 6.0 with windowmaker as my WM. i thought i would try some of these GNUstep apps to help finish out the desktop but i cannot seem to figure out how to start any of them. i installed several from ports and typing

Re: Stack trace?

2006-04-12 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-04-12 03:44:33 +0200 Lloyd Dupont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: isn't there any way to get programatically the current stack trace? or at least the stack trace of an exception? [...] There is. But it requires a lot screwing around. I got a snipped around somewhere, if you're interested,

Re: NSFrameAddress

2006-04-12 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-04-12 03:55:56 +0200 Lloyd Dupont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I jsut discovered NSFrameAddress in NSDebug.h Looks very promizing in my case. But I have no idea how to use it... Any tips? You need to know how stack frames look like on your machine. You can use NSFrameAddress to 'define' a

Re: NSFrameAddress

2006-04-12 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-04-12 10:01:38 +0200 Lloyd Dupont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problem is... what do I do with a Frame? NSFrameAddress() return a void*. I don't kown what to do with it! Is there a way to get method name from this void*? Anyway I will also look at your code, thanks for it! Take a look at

Re: Start GNUstep.sh as early as possible in Xwindow session

2006-04-17 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-04-17 10:01:26 +0200 Charles Philip Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The difference between ~/.profile and ~/.bashrc is that ~/.profile only runs once when logging in as opposed to ~/.bashrc which runs every time you invoke a new shell. Yes, but not every shell looks for (and reads in)

Re: Start GNUstep.sh as early as possible in Xwindow session

2006-04-17 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-04-17 11:09:16 +0200 Charles Philip Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes you are correct, Do you know of any shell other than t/csh that does not read ~/.profile? For example, the ZSH doesn't even read /etc/profile, nor does it read ~/.profile. By default it's /etc/zprofile and

Re: [NSEvent isARepeat]

2006-04-28 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-04-28 09:49:36 +0200 Richard Frith-Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28 Apr 2006, at 10:23, Stephane Goujet wrote: A quick look at the backend source code reveals (back/Source/x11/ XGServerEvent.m) the line ... isARepeat: NO /* isARepeat can't be supported with X */ So the X11

Re: Menu Keys not Working in SVN version

2006-04-29 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-04-30 00:46:16 +0200 Charles Philip Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope this is not directed at me. ;-) No. -- Chris ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep

Re: Window Maker weirdness

2006-05-03 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-05-03 21:35:38 +0200 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have developed an app that behaves correctly when started with openapp from a terminal. However, if I drag the icon onto the dock in Window Maker, quit the app and start it by doubleclicking the icon in the dock it

Re: Window Maker weirdness

2006-05-03 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-05-03 21:55:27 +0200 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That depends on how your X session was started. I choose Window Maker from the dtlogin session menu on the Solaris login page. :-) Actually I have no idea what this does and how X is started. There are the files

Re: Window Maker weirdness

2006-05-03 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-05-03 22:04:23 +0200 Yen-Ju Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] If that is the case, maybe you should change it to openapp AnApplication.app. [...] Try to set openapp GNUMail.app %s for Command for middle-click launch and openapp GNUMail.app %d for Command for files dropped

Re: A question about categories

2006-05-08 Thread Chris Vetter
Hmm, I think my original mail never got through, so here's a re-sent: On 2006-05-05 20:53:53 +0200 Vaisburd, Haim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way to call the original method within the implementation of my override, in this case the original [NSBitmapImageRep-destroy] ? Try

Re: GNUstep on Solaris

2006-05-31 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-05-31 19:20:16 +0200 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I just played around with TextEdit.app on Solaris (Sun Ray) and realized that the Emacs Keybindings do not work as expected. Ctrl-a and Ctrl-e do work but Ctrl-k just beeps. Pressing the Alt Graph key (e.g. for

Re: Preserving newlines

2006-06-08 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-06-08 17:57:22 +0200 Nate Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So when I run it, and enter in: Hi\n That is four (4) characters you entered It prints out: output: |Hi\n| So four (4) characters are printed, but I want it to print out: output: |Hi | and not three (3) as you would want

Re: POC / gcc

2006-06-09 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-06-09 10:28:05 +0200 Marc Brünink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Secondly, honest to God actual closures (called blocks for some reason). Closures!? Neat! I want closures, too Now !! :-) You can implement blocks (or closures) using macros. It's not trivial, but relatively simple.

Re: POC / gcc

2006-06-09 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-06-09 11:19:10 +0200 Graham J Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] There's some info on that at CocoaDev, start with this page: http://www.cocoadev.com/index.pl?HigherOrderMessaging [...] See also http://mediawiki.gnustep.org/index.php/HOM For GNUstep, KoBase already offers HOM. --

Re: Text Cursor Problem

2006-06-09 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-06-09 13:54:41 +0200 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The cursor remains to be a bar. Can anybody confirm this observation? [...] I can. Occasionally it also happens after editing a text, eg. in GNUMail. As far as I can tell, it seems to be pretty random. -- Chris

Re: Building GWorkspace on Solaris 10

2006-06-26 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-06-26 12:24:38 +0200 Enrico Sersale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've fixed this. Noticed the SVN update. With 3002002 some tools (actually not active as gmds and mdextractor), don't work. But this is not a problem for ddbd (file annotations, lsfolders and, in the future, thumbnails

ANN: Tryst 108

2006-07-01 Thread Chris Vetter
Hi, almost 2 and a half year, I'm happy to announce the release of a new version of Tryst (yes, I WAS still working on it :-) * What is it? Tryst is a library implementing the missing NSNetService and NSNetServiceBrowser classes. Bonjour [1], formerly known as Rendezvous, allows you to

Re: Force Quit for GNUstep

2006-07-06 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-07-06 11:56:11 +0200 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on the Mac we have this Force Quit panel to kill applications that no longer respond to events. Does something equivalent exist for GNUstep? We developers use a terminal session and kill but that's no suitable appproach

Re: Force Quit for GNUstep

2006-07-06 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-07-06 14:40:32 +0200 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anybody gotten Etoile to work on Solaris? I just gave it a try but failed (might be our rather old code tree). Is Etoile already usuable? Etoile as a whole isn't usable yet, only a couple of things, like Chamaelon,

Re: gcc warning (_OBJC_INSTANCE_2 defined ...)

2006-07-07 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-07-07 16:29:27 +0200 Helge Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to disable the warning? :-) Either remove -Wall or replace it with more specific warning settings. Not exactly sure with -W option triggers the warning. -- Chris

Re: gcc warning (_OBJC_INSTANCE_2 defined ...)

2006-07-07 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-07-07 18:31:42 +0200 Chris Vetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2006-07-07 16:29:27 +0200 Helge Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to disable the warning? :-) Either remove -Wall or replace it with more specific warning settings. Not exactly sure with -W option triggers

Re: NSPopUpButton bug

2006-07-26 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-07-26 12:59:04 +0200 Marc Brünink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: could someone please confirm this bug: If you stuff so many items in a NSPopUpButton that the height of the button is greater than your screen height you are in trouble. If, for example, you take a look at GNUMail's Font

Re: NSPopUpButton bug

2006-07-26 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-07-26 13:58:41 +0200 Marc Brünink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] So If you do not have this problem: Do you ever have had it? Was this fixed in cvs recently? I see what you mean. When I try to select a font 'higher up', the list is more or less properly scrolled. However, when I stop

Re: NSPopUpButton bug

2006-07-26 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-07-26 16:04:23 +0200 Gregory John Casamento [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A little more than you are in trouble might be helpful. What actually happens when you do this? See later mails ;-) As a side note, I would also say that, if you have a popup button like that, you may want to

Library with Resources?

2006-07-27 Thread Chris Vetter
Hi, I need to install a library that has a Resources directory containing tiffs. Since, as far as I can figure out, libraries cannot have a Resources directory, I would have to make it a framework. However, there are no header files to be installed. So, I guess, my question is whether there

Re: Uhm????

2006-07-30 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-07-30 15:13:29 +0200 Stupid Me wrote: [...] Ok, never mind, I forgot to include common.make *sigh* -- Chris ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep

Re: How to control when SUBPROJECTS are compiled ?

2006-07-30 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-07-30 19:03:12 +0200 Quentin Mathé [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] If you don't move your project code in subprojects, this isn't going to work because Project X and Project Y aren't subprojects but just different targets for the project (which owns the subprojects)… Hoping I have

Re: How to control when SUBPROJECTS are compiled ?

2006-07-30 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-07-30 19:37:37 +0200 Yves de Champlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't really know much how subprojects work so I can't say much, but theses two subprojects types are really two different things that happen to have the same name because of their nested structure. We could talk,

Re: Webkit for GNUstep

2006-08-03 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-03 21:45:05 +0200 Michael Thaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is it possible to compile Webkit using GNUstep? I looked at https://gna.org/projects/gswebkit, but it seems GNUstep WebKit is not developed anymore. The site mentions that the source code of WebCore and JavaScriptCore has to

Re: Webkit for GNUstep

2006-08-03 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-03 22:05:56 +0200 Billy Tallis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to write makefiles for everything. It is not an easy task. I have been able to get most of JavaScriptCore to compile, but I don't have access to a Mac with Xcode to figure out the rest. The alternative would be to write

Re: Webkit for GNUstep

2006-08-08 Thread Chris . Vetter
Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: Another alternative would be trying to port Camino ( http:// www.caminobrowser.org/ ) once the Cocoa widgets are in place and the Cairo support is complete ( http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/josh/ archives/2006/07/updated_cocoa_firefox_build_un_1.html , http://

Re: Etoile on Solaris

2006-08-24 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-24 14:14:52 +0200 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you send us your modified source tree of Etoile that builds on Solaris? I didn't modify anything, except for a couple of changes in GWorkspace's configure scripts, due to the fact that the required SQLite3 version

Re: Etoile on Solaris

2006-08-24 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-24 20:35:44 +0200 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: typedef is no strict C and does not seem to be supported by gcc without further ado. You haven't had this problem? Any ideas? Nope, never encountered this particular problem. Which (version of) GCC are you using? You're

Re: really attracting developers

2006-08-25 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-25 12:05:48 +0200 Rogelio Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whats keeping other developers from gnustep? That's the crucial question, isn't it? incomplete ide? Gorm, while probably not finished, is very stable and usable. incomplete nextstep based system? GNUstep is a

Re: [Fwd: Re: really attracting developers]

2006-08-25 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-25 14:16:28 +0200 Marc Brünink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: incomplete libraries? That's open to debate. If you compare it to Cocoa, yes, it's incomplete. Question is how far the completeness is supposed to go (with respect to Cocoa). Libraries are complete enough to write nice

Re: Newbie installation question

2006-08-26 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-26 12:53:39 +0200 Marc Brünink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once more a posting about how to open applications. Perhaps we should place the getting started guide somewhere else. Oh ah. Do we have a getting started guide? (I guess somewhere in the wiki??) A Build Guide can be found

Re: Newbie installation question

2006-08-26 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-26 13:22:48 +0200 Marc Brünink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] So why do not link this here? http://www.gnustep.org/information/gethelp.html The Build Guide is linked TO from the Wiki site ( http://mediawiki.gnustep.org/index.php/GNUstep_Installation_Process ) I guess it would be a

Re: really attracting developers

2006-08-26 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-26 21:47:02 +0200 Philippe C.D. Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [... some very good points ...] just my $0.02... and now hit me ;-) Seconded -- Chris ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org

Re: These NeXTbuntu guys

2006-08-27 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-27 17:45:27 +0200 Andrew Sveikauskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of curiosity I googled nextbuntu to see if they've managed to put up any material other than a blog. It seems they have already been lectured about this on Ubuntu forums this past July: Not just that, someone

Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-27 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-27 22:35:37 +0200 Nicolas Roard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] In fact... I'm starting more and more to think that GNUstep, instead of trying to be a jack of all trades -- I mean, it's a programming toolkit, no, a development environment with RAD, no, a web application server, no, a

Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-28 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-28 03:03:28 +0200 Rogelio M. Serrano Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A new window manager needs to be written but then again its just a very big job. Is it really? All a _window_ manager has to do is _manage_ windows. That is, (create and) open them, move them around and (some way

Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-28 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-28 13:43:08 +0200 Peter Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I suspect, like many things, it's an All-The-World-Is-Linux problem. [...] It is. After I copied the related line(s) from my FreeBSD's /etc/termcap over to my Solaris box, it worked. -- Chris

Re: Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-28 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-28 14:58:27 +0200 Pete French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not give Azalea a try ? Umm, silly question - but where can I download this from ? There's no FreeBSD port for Azalea or Etoile that I can find (not a good start) nor is there an obvious link from the etoile pages to

Re: Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-29 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-28 16:21:12 +0200 Charles Philip Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't heard anyone mentioning Bowman in years. I don't think it exist anymore. If anyone is interested, I still have the sources flying around somewhere on my box. For those who do not know about Bowman, it was

Re: really attracting developers

2006-08-29 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-28 18:43:57 +0200 Nikolaus Waxweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The web API documentation is currently synchronised. No, not really. Just look at http://mediawiki.gnustep.org/index.php/AppKit and http://mediawiki.gnustep.org/index.php/Foundation. They consist mostly of red

Re: really attracting developers

2006-08-29 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-29 09:40:22 +0200 Rogelio Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] i looked at amaya and i got stuck in the wxwindows parts too. but it looks more promising than the others. maybe we need to come up with an alternative engine. its ironic considering the www was invented on a next cube.

Re: These NeXTbuntu guys

2006-08-29 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-29 12:58:35 +0200 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] • If an app hangs Window Maker is dead. No chance to start Terminal.app to kill the application. This is not acceptable. Agreed, however, if any window manager hangs you're in deep shit anyway. • As far as we know

Re: These NeXTbuntu guys (fwd)

2006-08-30 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-29 15:06:00 +0200 Marc Brünink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Agreed, however, if any window manager hangs you're in deep shit anyway. I do not know if you get it right. It's not that Window Maker hangs but any other application. WindowMaker is just not able to focus another window

Re: These NeXTbuntu guys

2006-08-30 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-29 16:32:24 +0200 Sašo Kiselkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Höschler wrote: We run EtoileMenuServer.app. I just checked the flower - Applications - Application List, but selecting this menu item gives me nothing. I not even get an error message on the console!? As you might

Re: Thoughts triggered by these NeXTbuntu guys

2006-08-30 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-30 08:31:01 +0200 Jeremy Tregunna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then if we get a person who is able to contribute there is another thing that I consider the second most important problem - the copyright assignment to FSF. Amen to that. This topic deserves another message with a

Re: These NeXTbuntu guys (fwd)

2006-08-30 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-30 11:57:39 +0200 Andreas Höschler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't run Window Maker in a long time, but I'm sure I never seen that behaviour. Does that mean you can't even focus, say, an xterm? It means i can do nothing after clicking on an app in the dock when it hangs during

Re: really attracting developers

2006-08-30 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-30 04:18:36 +0200 Jason Clouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I was working on a CoreFoundation implementation, but I hear that WebKit is totally abandoning Cocoa, so I'm not sure it makes a difference now. :-( Wouldn't make sense. They (that is, the WebKit developers) are said to

Re: really attracting developers

2006-08-31 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-08-30 19:44:27 +0200 Michael Thaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 30 August 2006 14:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True, especially regarding Gecko. However, using libwww WOULD be an idea for writing a _very_ simple webbrowser. I was thinking about that, using libwww as a bundle,

Wiki's main page

2006-08-31 Thread Chris Vetter
Hi, have you seen http://mediawiki.gnustep.org/index.php/User_talk:Madleser ? Looks MUCH better than the current main page. I'm all in favour for replacing... -- Chris ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org

Re: running gnustep on Freebsd: how do i get it to run ...

2006-09-02 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-09-03 01:56:10 +0200 g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] but when i type startx, i get the x windowing system. what do i need to do to get gnustep running and running at startup, when i turn on the computer. You do not 'run' GNUstep. First off, you should install GNUstep via

Re: running gnustep on Freebsd: how do i get it to run ...

2006-09-03 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-09-03 06:42:42 +0200 Andrew Sveikauskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/Platform:BSD After seeing this page in particular I feel like I should point something out. We can only add and refer to that we know about :-) [...] I tried to create an

Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers]

2006-09-05 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-09-04 19:01:33 +0200 Andrew Sveikauskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] 3. An option to not show the app icon. [...] This is already implemented. You can set GSSuppressAppIcon = *BY; either on a per-application to suppress the application's miniwindow OR in NSGlobalDomain to

Re: scrollbars [was: Re: really attracting developers]

2006-09-05 Thread Chris Vetter
On 2006-09-05 13:52:25 +0200 Richard Frith-Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The perennial debate about what's good/bad in a user interface is, IMO, just a waste of everyones time. Amen to that. Especially since any 5 people will have 6 or 7 different opinions on what really IS

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