Re: [slim] This is driving me nuts
slartibartfast wrote: > My house is fairly small which probably helps and I only have three > homeplugs. One connects to my Raspberry Pi LMS server and another to a > Virginmedia TV box which are both upstairs and the router is downstairs > with another Virginmedia TV box wired to the router. I had a strange > issue where the Virginmedia boxes could see each other if the Raspberry > Pi was not connected but lost contact with each other when the Pi was > connected. This turned out to be an issue with the Virginmedia Hub 3 > combined modem and router. Putting the Hub 3 in modem mode and adding a > standalone router fixed the issue. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk I've had similar good luck with homeplugs for several years. At my weekend cabin, I have a 3 homeplugs in use. One is connected near main router/modem. 2nd is connected to a router in use as a switch only (not assigning IP addresses). To this switch/router, I've attached a vortexbox server running LMS and holding my music files and a TOUCH. the 3rd homeplug is connected to a BOOM in my bedroom. The wiring in this house is about 17 years old, and the 3 homeplugs are probably no more than 15 feet away from each other (house is very small). I plan on eventually running ethernet cable here, but haven't had the need yet. *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5)>LMS 7.9.2>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.2>Squeezelite *The Wild (no internet): *PiCorePlayer 4.0 on rPi 3B+, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111970 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] This is driving me nuts
If your Lyngdorf amp is one with "Chromecast built-in", you might give the LMS Chromecast plugin a try. From what I've read, it can support up to 24/192. Can't guarantee gapless or ReplayGain support with these plugins, though, so you'll have to test that. Honestly, the best player for LMS is a Squeezebox or squeezelite-enabled device. If you have no other Squeezebox players to support, I'd suggest switching to a full-featured DLNA server like MinimServer and using the Lyngdorf controller app. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111970 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] This is driving me nuts
Dont think the homeplugs are an issue. The wired connection is solely for being able to calbrate and operate the amp from my Ipad. Music playback is wireless. Anyway, I switched off the UPNP plugin in LMS and reverted to playback via Airplay - and everything works as it used to - single touch selection and playback of individual tracks, next track in playlist plays automatically, progress slider allows me to fast forward within a track and still plays the next track when it reaches the end. So seems like the UPNP side of things is the problem. Someone said that LMS does not work well with UPNP (although it was fine until a few weeks ago) and suggested I try a different UPNP application to the current Plugin. But Ive no idea how to do that. I looked at SourceForge but was just drowned in a mass of technicality. I would like to use UPNP rather than Airplay as I have a few 24/96 tracks to play. Can anyone help ? liffy99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7832 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111970 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] This is driving me nuts
Apesbrain wrote: > Good to hear your mesh network has been solid. What brand/model do you > use? Netgear Orbi RBK50/RBS50. However I use it as an "single" AP - DHCP, DNS and routing done by ISP equipment. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111970 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] This is driving me nuts
bpa wrote: > I had many generations from different vendors and they all behaved oddly > from time to time (most use the same chipset). Now reduced down to one > pair for a connection and use mesh wifi instead. This has been most > stable. Good to hear your mesh network has been solid. What brand/model do you use? If no other option, another technology similar to Homeplug is "Ethernet Over Coax". EoC hardware is about twice the price of Homeplug, but works in the same manner using the existing cable TV coax network. If the router and target player are both near a cable TV outlet, this might be worth a try. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111970 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] This is driving me nuts
slartibartfast wrote: > I must be lucky. I have my LMS server on a Raspberry Pi connected to my > router via Homeplugs and haven't noticed any issues. I had many generations from different vendors and they all behaved oddly from time to time (most use the same chipset). Now reduced down to one pair for a connection and use mesh wifi instead. This has been most stable. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111970 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] This is driving me nuts
philippe_44 wrote: > It really depends how many you have and how far they are and how many > noise/black-out generators you have at your home. In my case, they > really have always screwed up any real-time sensitive traffic like RTP. > Anything that can't buffer will have these black-out periods from time > to time. A while ago, I even wrote small C apps to verify what happens > using UDP frames to confirm the issue My house is fairly small which probably helps and I only have three homeplugs. One connects to my Raspberry Pi LMS server and another to a Virginmedia TV box which are both upstairs and the router is downstairs with another Virginmedia TV box wired to the router. I had a strange issue where the Virginmedia boxes could see each other if the Raspberry Pi was not connected but lost contact with each other when the Pi was connected. This turned out to be an issue with the Virginmedia Hub 3 combined modem and router. Putting the Hub 3 in modem mode and adding a standalone router fixed the issue. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111970 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] This is driving me nuts
slartibartfast wrote: > I must be lucky. I have my LMS server on a Raspberry Pi connected to my > router via Homeplugs and haven't noticed any issues. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk It really depends how many you have and how far they are and how many noise/black-out generators you have at your home. In my case, they really have always screwed up any real-time sensitive traffic like RTP. Anything that can't buffer will have these black-out periods from time to time. A while ago, I even wrote small C apps to verify what happens using UDP frames to confirm the issue LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi B3, B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Odroid-C2, Cubie2, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111970 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] This is driving me nuts
d6jg wrote: > I agree. They tend to start off working ok then seem to degrade badly > with exactly these symptoms. > I ended up wiring key rooms to remove home plugs from the equation and > upgraded the WiFi with 2 x Business grade APs.I must be lucky. I have my LMS > server on a Raspberry Pi connected to my router via Homeplugs and haven't noticed any issues. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111970 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] This is driving me nuts
+1 on homeplugs --- I started out with 2 netgear devices and was an inconsistent experience ... if ethernet cable is not possible, you can try another outlet for homeplug -- Bill Clark, Windham, VT Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.3 - 1584993250 @ Tue Mar 24 04:13:22 CET 2020 Hostname: ubuntu-lms - ProxMox Virtual Environment 5.4-3 | Ubuntu 16.04 xenial piCorePlayer | piCorePlayer v5.0.0 | linux 4.19.40-pcpCore_v7 | piCore v10.1pCP | Squeezelite v1.9.2-1158-pCP --- kappclark's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29572 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111970 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] This is driving me nuts
philippe_44 wrote: > I have to concur to the idea. I have been having homeplugs forever, all > generations, all brands and they always have been a consistent disaster > with issues like what you describe. If you can, remove them. Ive not > been able to get rid of all of them unfortunately, but at least I just > have 2 for a simple bridge I agree. They tend to start off working ok then seem to degrade badly with exactly these symptoms. I ended up wiring key rooms to remove home plugs from the equation and upgraded the WiFi with 2 x Business grade APs. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111970 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] This is driving me nuts
edwin2006 wrote: > Are you able to test temporarily via a long network cable to eliminate > the homeplugs? I have to concur to the idea. I have been having homeplugs forever, all generations, all brands and they always have been a consistent disaster with issues like what you describe. If you can, remove them. Ive not been able to get rid of all of them unfortunately, but at least I just have 2 for a simple bridge LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi B3, B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Odroid-C2, Cubie2, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111970 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] This is driving me nuts
Are you able to test temporarily via a long network cable to eliminate the homeplugs? *SqueezeBoxes:* 1x Transporter (Living room) 1x SB2 (shed), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Study 2), few spare unit's *Server:* LMS on Pi3 7.9.1. on PcP 3.21 *Network:* AVM Fritzbox, Netgear Smart Switch 24p, 3x Ubiquity edwin2006's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111970 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] This is driving me nuts
Apesbrain wrote: > Is your connection to the amp wired or wireless? If the latter, I'd > check for network issues. Try another wireless channel. If you're > using a mesh router, those are known to be problematic with LMS. > > Are you using LMS as your server because you have other Squeezeboxes? Wired, albeit via homeplugs. I have always used LMS. Used to have a SB Classic and a Touch, them Raspberry Pi, but now a Lyngdorf amp which as built in UPNP and Airplay support. Did try Audirvana as the server and liked the sound and Qobuz integration but the Ipad controller interface was very poor. So will wait to see if they improve it. liffy99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7832 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111970 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] This is driving me nuts
Is your connection to the amp wired or wireless? If the latter, I'd check for network issues. Try another wireless channel. If you're using a mesh router, those are known to be problematic with LMS. Are you using LMS as your server because you have other Squeezeboxes? Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111970 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
