On 09/03/2018 07:18 PM, Nikos Roussos wrote:
That's true for most associations, but even in these cases usually there are
some limitations on how you get to be a member. In many associations, besides
paying a membership, it is required that some existing members vouch for you.
This provides
August 30, 2018 2:34 PM, "Carsten Agger" wrote:
> On 08/30/2018 03:49 PM, Nikos Roussos wrote:
>
>> I have been (and still am) member/supporter of various non-profit
>> organizations and none of these
>> apply the kind of democracy you envision. Rightfully so, in my opinion. As
>> an example,
Am Freitag 31 August 2018 13:22:56 schrieb Besnik Bleta:
> > convincing more than 18 thousand people code paid by
> > public money should be published as Free Software
>
> Funny that you declare you don't know the "demos" of the fellowship,
> although we pay (I myself no more) the membership fee th
> convincing more than 18 thousand people code paid by
> public money should be published as Free Software
Funny that you declare you don't know the "demos" of the fellowship,
although we pay (I myself no more) the membership fee through
channels that easily let identify who we are and on the ot
Thanks Bernhard for your prompt reply.
I know and have been part of communities like FSFE for the last 20+ yrs and
represented some of them as president. So I will leave it to your
imagination how many episodes like this one I have come across.
I am not criticizing FSFE, even though there are thi
Hi Stefan,
Am Freitag 31 August 2018 09:59:32 schrieb Stefan Uygur:
> can the legal representative of FSFE
> answer to these questions once for all pls?
it is not that easy, as it is okay to critise us, FSFE,
its president and members in principle and some of the points are raised as
general qu
Dear all,
Am 2018-08-31 um 09:51 schrieb Sam Liddicott:
> I love how you trimmed " It is not necessary to name anybody" and then
> go on about avoidable name-calling while failing to avoid it yourself.
I see that this came across much more agressive than it was intended. I
apologize to everybody
Gentlemen and ladies,
Independently of who is right and who is wrong in this long and annoying
discussion, instead of back and forth, can the legal representative of FSFE
answer to these questions once for all pls?
The legal representative in this case is the president from whom l haven't
seen a s
I love how you trimmed " It is not necessary to name anybody" and then go
on about avoidable name-calling while failing to avoid it yourself.
Sam
On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 10:22 Reinhard Müller, wrote:
> Am 2018-08-29 um 11:05 schrieb Daniel Pocock:
> > If you don't have time to meet people person
Hello,
Am Donnerstag 30 August 2018 17:28:50 schrieb Mirko Boehm:
> > On 30. Aug 2018, at 07:34, Carsten Agger wrote:
> > Many NGOs that I know of are run as traditional associations, with a
> > yearly general assembly as te highest authority, a board elected by the
> > participants at the gener
Hello Daniel,
Am Donnerstag 30 August 2018 21:28:21 schrieb Daniel Pocock:
> There is a big difference: those other groups didn't promise people
> democracy, membership and representation. FSFE did.
FSFE did not (as Harald and others have pointed out in detail),
it cannot, as it does not make se
On 30/08/18 14:49, Nikos Roussos wrote:
>> This brings me back to the original question then: democracy. Annual
>> elections and allowing all the community to participate can provide
>> regular renewal. When somebody doesn't have the time any more, either
>> they don't run for re-election or the
Hello,
> On 30. Aug 2018, at 07:34, Carsten Agger wrote:
>
>
> On 08/30/2018 03:49 PM, Nikos Roussos wrote:
>>> This brings me back to the original question then: democracy. Annual
>>> elections and allowing all the community to participate can provide
>>> regular renewal. When somebody doesn
On 08/30/2018 03:49 PM, Nikos Roussos wrote:
This brings me back to the original question then: democracy. Annual
elections and allowing all the community to participate can provide
regular renewal. When somebody doesn't have the time any more, either
they don't run for re-election or the com
> This brings me back to the original question then: democracy. Annual
> elections and allowing all the community to participate can provide
> regular renewal. When somebody doesn't have the time any more, either
> they don't run for re-election or the community will help them depart by
> voting
Daniel,
Am Mittwoch 29 August 2018 23:03:41 schrieb Daniel Pocock:
> Do you notice how in my own message, I made significant effort to avoid
> being personal: instead of a focus on Bernhard's situation, I draw upon
> a mixed set of examples from multiple people.
this I appreciate.
However the p
On 29/08/18 10:22, Reinhard Müller wrote:
> Am 2018-08-29 um 11:05 schrieb Daniel Pocock:
>> If you don't have time to meet people personally, it is inevitable there
>> will be some misunderstandings in electronic communications, especially
>> for those trying to squeeze too many things into their
Am 2018-08-29 um 11:05 schrieb Daniel Pocock:
> If you don't have time to meet people personally, it is inevitable there
> will be some misunderstandings in electronic communications, especially
> for those trying to squeeze too many things into their life.
... says the person who didn't attend an
On 29/08/18 09:15, Bernhard E. Reiter wrote:
>
>> If people had differences of opinion with me, there have been many
>> opportunities to discuss that with me at events but for the record, I'd
>> like to make it clear no other member ever did so.
> Unfortunately we did not meet at events, because I
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