Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-12 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Adam Jenkins wrote: > > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Marcello Bontempo Salgueiro > wrote: >> Don´t make a core list, put inside the dajngo site >> a new applet for register jobs, like have in the

Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-12 Thread Adam Jenkins
age - > From: "Dave Smith" <davewsm...@gmail.com> > To: django-developers@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer > urgent) > Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 07:26:01 -0700 > > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Ned Batcheld

Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-12 Thread Jeff Gentry
> I don't know where you got "the core team" from--django-core: > development on Django itself, and more importantly, it would have been > completely unambiguous to users developing using Django. FWIW, another project that I was a contributer for had '-devel' for the same purpose as this list

Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-11 Thread Joshua Partogi
I agree. In programming world, a 'user' is actually someone that develops something with that framework or programming language. This is quite contrast compared to OS world. The term 'Linux user' would imply someone that actually use Linux, while Linux developers would imply someone that is

Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-11 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:43 PM, James Bennett wrote: > There are no "intuitive" or "right" names, really ("django-core" > wouldn't work because this list is for more people than just the > "core" team, for example -- nothing short of >

Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-11 Thread James Bennett
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Glenn Maynard wrote: > Better names for django-users and django-developer would have been > django-developer and django-core, respectively.  Calling this list > "developer" wasn't such a great idea--the users of Django *are* > developers;

Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-11 Thread Glenn Maynard
Better names for django-users and django-developer would have been django-developer and django-core, respectively. Calling this list "developer" wasn't such a great idea--the users of Django *are* developers; they're developing with Django. No amount of tweaking the list description is going to

Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-10 Thread James Bennett
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Joshua Partogi wrote: > I really doubt that the people from HR would really read the > description of the group. I've been dealing with HR people. :-D All > they care about is posting the job based on the specs their end user > told them.

Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-10 Thread Joshua Partogi
Hi Jacob, I really doubt that the people from HR would really read the description of the group. I've been dealing with HR people. :-D All they care about is posting the job based on the specs their end user told them. And to them, the name django developers would imply that the group is the

Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-08 Thread J. Cliff Dyer
+1 I think Warren's suggestion is the clearest. I also like the "core developers" bit, but I would put that in as a second sentence. Something like: """ Discussion group for issues regarding the development of the Django framework itself. This is primarily for core developers. For discussion

Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-08 Thread Tim Chase
> How about: > > "You're found the wrong list. You're probably looking for django-users > unless you're interested in the development of the Django framework itself." +1 [waves hand] This is not the list you are looking for. -tim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You

Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-08 Thread David Zhou
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Edwin Wong wrote > > Having followed the group here for some time, anybody posting a job > posting or similar off-topic posting tends to be a first time poster, > and in most cases it's very obvious that they never even bothered to > read the

Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-08 Thread Marcello Bontempo Salgueiro
...@gmail.com> To: django-developers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 07:26:01 -0700 On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Ned Batchelder <n...@nedbatchelder.com> wrote: Add the word "core&

Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-08 Thread Joe Tyson
Big bold letters: *** THIS LIST IS NOT FOR DJANGO HELP - USE DJANGO USERS FOR THAT *** On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Dave Smith wrote: > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote: > >> Add the word "core" to make the first sentence,

Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-08 Thread Dave Smith
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote: > Add the word "core" to make the first sentence, "Discussion group for > Django core developers". > Good idea, but I'd take it step farther. "Core" is just ambiguous enough outside the bubble that some people will

Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-08 Thread Edwin Wong
Having followed the group here for some time, anybody posting a job posting or similar off-topic posting tends to be a first time poster, and in most cases it's very obvious that they never even bothered to read the group description. That being the case, I think clarifying the group description

Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-08 Thread Warren Smith
>> """ >> Discussion group for Django developers. This group is used for >> discussion of developing Django itself, not user questions; Please use >> django-users for issues regarding using the framework, questions for >> the Django user community, outreach, etc. >> """ >> I agree that all the

Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-08 Thread Justin Lilly
As an alternative, we could try FRAMEWORK for extra emphasis. Perhaps a bit janky, though. -justin On May 8, 2009, at 9:24 AM, Marty Alchin wrote: > > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss > wrote: >> """ >> Discussion group

Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-08 Thread Jerome Leclanche
Perhaps emphasis on "contributors" rather than "developers"? J On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Justin Lilly wrote: > > As an alternative, we could try FRAMEWORK for extra emphasis. Perhaps > a bit janky, though. > >  -justin > > > > On May 8, 2009, at 9:24 AM, Marty

Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-08 Thread Marty Alchin
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: > """ > Discussion group for Django developers. This group is used for > discussion of developing Django itself, not user questions; Please use > django-users for issues regarding using the framework, questions

Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-08 Thread Alex Gaynor
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote: > Add the word "core" to make the first sentence, "Discussion group for > Django core developers". > > Not that that will make them read the description, but... > > --Ned. > > Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: > > On Fri, May

Re: Posting to the wrong list (was: Re: Need Django Developer urgent)

2009-05-08 Thread Ned Batchelder
Add the word "core" to make the first sentence, "Discussion group for Django core developers". Not that that will make them read the description, but... --Ned. Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Joshua Partogi wrote: > >> Some people get