Re: Using setuptools to make django-admin.py runnable on Windows (#21340)

2013-12-29 Thread Elena Williams
Dear Florian, Thanks so much for your update/feedback. I updated the update here: https://github.com/elena/django-news-podcast/issues/1 Thanks again! Elena On Sunday, December 29, 2013 8:10:30 PM UTC+11, Florian Apolloner wrote: > > Just so we are all on the same page here (summarizing

Re: Using setuptools to make django-admin.py runnable on Windows (#21340)

2013-12-29 Thread Florian Apolloner
Just so we are all on the same page here (summarizing discussions from IRC etc): * We are not going to support setuptools and distutils, this makes the setupprocess difficult to debug and test imo. * Given Donald's "okay" we might switch to setuptools completely * There seems to be a bug in

Re: Using setuptools to make django-admin.py runnable on Windows (#21340)

2013-12-04 Thread Donald Stufft
On Dec 4, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Florian Apolloner wrote: > On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 11:20:39 PM UTC+1, Donald Stufft wrote: > entry points are kinda wonky with pip 1.4, pip 1.5 makes them sane. You would > not need a Windows specific Wheel with pip 1.5 > > Is there a

Re: Using setuptools to make django-admin.py runnable on Windows (#21340)

2013-12-04 Thread Florian Apolloner
On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 11:20:39 PM UTC+1, Donald Stufft wrote: > > entry points are kinda wonky with pip 1.4, pip 1.5 makes them sane. You > would not need a Windows specific Wheel with pip 1.5 > Is there a test-pypi where I could upload Django packages to test this? -- You received

Re: Using setuptools to make django-admin.py runnable on Windows (#21340)

2013-12-04 Thread Donald Stufft
On Dec 4, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Florian Apolloner wrote: > Oh, one last thing (a few actually): > How does 'entry_points' work with wheels? > Do we need an extra wheel for windows just to get the wrappers right? > Can we generate a windows wheel from *nix, or do we need a

Re: Using setuptools to make django-admin.py runnable on Windows (#21340)

2013-12-04 Thread Florian Apolloner
Oh, one last thing (a few actually): - How does 'entry_points' work with wheels? - Do we need an extra wheel for windows just to get the wrappers right? - Can we generate a windows wheel from *nix, or do we need a windows box? Cheers, Florian On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 10:24:09

Re: Using setuptools to make django-admin.py runnable on Windows (#21340)

2013-12-04 Thread Florian Apolloner
On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 8:24:49 PM UTC+1, Remram wrote: > > December 4 12:43, Florian Apolloner >> >> To my understanding of >> https://github.com/pypa/pip/blob/develop/pip/req.py#L633 pip will use >> setuptools for installing -- so why do you need setuptools in Django itself? >> > The

Re: Using setuptools to make django-admin.py runnable on Windows (#21340)

2013-12-04 Thread Remram
December 4 12:43, Florian Apolloner > > To my understanding of > https://github.com/pypa/pip/blob/develop/pip/req.py#L633 pip will use > setuptools for installing -- so why do you need setuptools in Django itself? > Hi Florian, The point here is to use options that distutils doesn't offer,

Re: Using setuptools to make django-admin.py runnable on Windows (#21340)

2013-12-04 Thread Florian Apolloner
Hi Remram, On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 4:56:55 PM UTC+1, Remram wrote: > > November 24 14:37, Florian Apolloner >> >> I am pretty much against setuptools and given that pip is somewhat >> becoming the defacto-standard to install stuff >> > > I completely agree to this. And setuptools is an

Re: Using setuptools to make django-admin.py runnable on Windows (#21340)

2013-12-04 Thread Remram
November 24 14:37, Florian Apolloner > > I am pretty much against setuptools and given that pip is somewhat > becoming the defacto-standard to install stuff > I completely agree to this. And setuptools is an important part of pip... In fact, pip has a strong dependency on setuptools, and

Re: Using setuptools to make django-admin.py runnable on Windows (#21340)

2013-11-25 Thread VernonCole
Waylan is correct, but does not go far enough. When one installs Python 3.3, the Python Launcher for Windows is also installed. I install Python 3 even on systems where I do not (at present) plan to use it, just to get the launcher. The launcher is the program which should be associated with

Re: Using setuptools to make django-admin.py runnable on Windows (#21340)

2013-11-24 Thread Waylan Limberg
On Sunday, November 24, 2013, Rémi Rampin wrote: > Hi developers, > > On Windows, running the django-admin.py tool is painful[1], because > .py scripts are not "executable". You might be able to run it using > the full path (if Python is the default handler for .py files, which > it really

Re: Using setuptools to make django-admin.py runnable on Windows (#21340)

2013-11-24 Thread Donald Stufft
The recommended build tool at the moment is setuptools. It's up to the individual project to decide if they think the install story for setutpools pre 3.4 is appropriate for them. This'll get better in general in the future with MSI installers for setuptools and pip > On Nov 24, 2013, at

Re: Using setuptools to make django-admin.py runnable on Windows (#21340)

2013-11-24 Thread Florian Apolloner
Hi, I am pretty much against setuptools and given that pip is somewhat becoming the defacto-standard to install stuff; I'd ask Donald what can be done here (cc'ed him). I don't think it's a good idea to fix this in Django since this is imo a problem in Python itself. Regards, Florian On

Using setuptools to make django-admin.py runnable on Windows (#21340)

2013-11-24 Thread Rémi Rampin
Hi developers, On Windows, running the django-admin.py tool is painful[1], because .py scripts are not "executable". You might be able to run it using the full path (if Python is the default handler for .py files, which it really shouldn't be). Most probably you'll need to copy it to your project