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Re: Localflavors: request for developers and triagers

2007-03-30 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 21:03 -0700, Simon G. wrote: > Hi Malcolm, > > Should ALL the strings in these be unicode objects, even if they don't > have any extended characters? I'm looking at the already checked in fr > localflavor, and these are all ASCII with the respective file set to > UTF-8 with

Re: Design decision on #3532 -- spaceless templatetag

2007-03-30 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 12:19 +0800, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > On 3/31/07, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 10:59 +0800, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > > [...] > > > 1) Is there a valid use case out there for the default 'leave 1 space' > > > behaviour tha

Re: Design decision on #3532 -- spaceless templatetag

2007-03-30 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On 3/31/07, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 10:59 +0800, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > [...] > > 1) Is there a valid use case out there for the default 'leave 1 space' > > behaviour that I am missing? > > Readability of the generated source is not to be sneez

Re: Localflavors: request for developers and triagers

2007-03-30 Thread Jeremy Dunck
On 3/30/07, Simon G. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > UTF-8 with that -*- thing (what is that called?), there's also a http://docs.python.org/ref/encodings.html Encoding declaration. (Incidentally, the process of parsing the file given the declaration is given pretty clearly there, too. Good to

Re: Localflavors: request for developers and triagers

2007-03-30 Thread Simon G.
Hi Malcolm, Should ALL the strings in these be unicode objects, even if they don't have any extended characters? I'm looking at the already checked in fr localflavor, and these are all ASCII with the respective file set to UTF-8 with that -*- thing (what is that called?), there's also a Brazilian

Re: Design decision on #3532 -- spaceless templatetag

2007-03-30 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
Hey Russ -- I'm +0 on spaceless actually being spaceless; -0 on keeping a single space as an option, -1 on one space being default or allowing an arbitrary number of spaces. Jacob --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the G

Re: Criteria for localflavour

2007-03-30 Thread Simon G.
I've had a first pass at documenting these in #3883 - any comments? http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/3883 --Simon --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this grou

Re: Design decision on #3532 -- spaceless templatetag

2007-03-30 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 10:59 +0800, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: [...] > 1) Is there a valid use case out there for the default 'leave 1 space' > behaviour that I am missing? Readability of the generated source is not to be sneezed at. Using the spaceless tag, you can have a nicely laid out template

Design decision on #3532 -- spaceless templatetag

2007-03-30 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
Hi all, This discussion is about _very_ trivial change, but it would break backwards compatibility, so I want to get some consensus before I commit anything. Ticket #3532 ( http://code.django.project.com/tickets/3532 ) discusses the spaceless templatetag. In particular, there has been a request

Re: {% url %} for generic views (proposal)

2007-03-30 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
Hi Nicolas, On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:53 +, Nicolas E. Lara G. wrote: > That is true, there are always cases where name will collide but the > disambiguation allows users a little more flexibility. I'm not saying > it will avoid all collisions but it is a simple extension that will > help most

Re: Status of SQLAlchemy branch

2007-03-30 Thread Armin Ronacher
Hoi, On Mar 29, 9:07 am, "Mir Nazim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now can anybody tell me about the status of Django's SQLAlchemy > branch. I could not find any place describing the status on > code.djangoproject.com. Looks like it's pretty dead. Very sad. SQLAlchemy is kicking-ass, especially

__loader__ support for debugging module (#3734)

2007-03-30 Thread Armin Ronacher
Hoi, I filed this ticket (http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/3734) some time ago and it's still marked as "Design decision needed" :). Now i added a patch and it works for me. I don't see any disadvantages in it so i hope someone can apply that patch. If not I would love to read comments about

Re: Procedure for large contrib apps

2007-03-30 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On 3/30/07, Gulopine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So once it's ready, would I create a ticket to make that proposal, or > just suggest it here? Here, probably. The ticket system is good for relatively uncontroversial changes, but new contrib apps might be controversial, so it's best to put it her

Re: Procedure for large contrib apps

2007-03-30 Thread Gulopine
On Mar 30, 11:02 am, "Jacob Kaplan-Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems a general consensus is forming over handling this sorts of > "contributed" subframeworks: create them as third-party projects -- I > highly recommend Google's code hosting athttp://code.google.com/-- > develop them sepa

Re: Stack trace in DB comments

2007-03-30 Thread Jeremy Dunck
On 3/30/07, Ned Batchelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The code is not online (yet). I plan to, but will need to wait for the HP > acquisition to settle down first... > Thanks for your patience with my pestering. :) I know you have bigger fish to fry just now. --~--~-~--~~

Re: Procedure for large contrib apps

2007-03-30 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On 3/30/07, Gulopine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On the flipside, this certainly qualifies as "non-trivial", so does it > need thorough discussion on this list before submitting a ticket? I'm > not sure on this one, since it doesn't modify any existing Django > code. I plan on bringing it up here

Re: {% url %} for generic views (proposal)

2007-03-30 Thread Nicolas E. Lara G.
That is true, there are always cases where name will collide but the disambiguation allows users a little more flexibility. I'm not saying it will avoid all collisions but it is a simple extension that will help most users (specially if you've already made your apps and views and when writing temp

Procedure for large contrib apps

2007-03-30 Thread Gulopine
In working on my first major Django project, I've developed a few subframeworks for Django that are greatly enhancing the project, and I think many others would get good use out of them. Unlike my only thus- far submitted app, however, these are considerably complex. In addition to models.py, one

Re: Stack trace in DB comments

2007-03-30 Thread Ned Batchelder
The code is not online (yet). I plan to, but will need to wait for the HP acquisition to settle down first... --Ned. Jeremy Dunck wrote: > On 3/30/07, Ned Batchelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> It wasn't a formal presentation. I was showing Tabblo during the Django >> app demo session,

Re: Stack trace in DB comments

2007-03-30 Thread Jeremy Dunck
On 3/30/07, Ned Batchelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It wasn't a formal presentation. I was showing Tabblo during the Django > app demo session, and Adrian noticed that my dev server was spewing more > info than typical. Yeah, I figured it was the app demo. I was asking if the middleware

Re: Stack trace in DB comments

2007-03-30 Thread Ned Batchelder
It wasn't a formal presentation. I was showing Tabblo during the Django app demo session, and Adrian noticed that my dev server was spewing more info than typical. --Ned. Jeremy Dunck wrote: > On 3/30/07, Ned Batchelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> At Pycon, when I showed >> my tracing m

Re: Can't handle newforms

2007-03-30 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
Hi xav -- Please direct questions of this nature to django-users; django-dev is used to discuss the development of Django itself, not to answer usage questions. Thanks! Jacob --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Googl

Re: Stack trace in DB comments

2007-03-30 Thread Jeremy Dunck
On 3/30/07, Ned Batchelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At Pycon, when I showed > my tracing middleware, I got the distinct feeling that its seven new > settings were a no-no. I guess I missed that pres. Is it available online somewhere? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You

Re: Can't handle newforms

2007-03-30 Thread xgdlm
On 30 mar, 14:15, Gábor Farkas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what is the output of running "locale" in a console? gabor, Your are right ! I remaoved my DEFAULT_CHARSET = 'iso8859-15' from my settings. Created a view to render a newform created form and everything is working find. So this is du

Re: Can't handle newforms

2007-03-30 Thread xgdlm
Hello, > what is the output of running "locale" in a console? # locale LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_TIME="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_NAME="fr_FR.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="fr_F

Re: Stack trace in DB comments

2007-03-30 Thread Gábor Farkas
Ned Batchelder wrote: > I think it would be a great idea. I have used similar tracing > facilities in other (non-Django) projects, and they were invaluable for > quickly zeroing in on the pathological code that swamped the performance. > > I don't know what the feeling of the devs is on clutte

Re: Can't handle newforms

2007-03-30 Thread Gábor Farkas
xgdlm wrote: > Thanks for your reply Malcolm > >> Hmm... this precise example works for me. Are you using a reasonably >> recent release (like 0.96)? I remember there was a unicode fix that went >> in not too long ago to add smart_unicode() calls in various places for >> things just like this. >

Re: Stack trace in DB comments

2007-03-30 Thread Ned Batchelder
I think it would be a great idea. I have used similar tracing facilities in other (non-Django) projects, and they were invaluable for quickly zeroing in on the pathological code that swamped the performance. I don't know what the feeling of the devs is on cluttering the settings with individu

Re: Can't handle newforms

2007-03-30 Thread xgdlm
adding DEFAULT_CHARSET = 'iso8859-15' to my settings.py solves this issue. I'm wondering how to have a complete UTF-8 system :) anyway thanks all for your investigations. xav --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goog

Newforms, Admin and UnicodeEncodeError

2007-03-30 Thread Lars Wessman
Hi Everyone I've posted this to the django-users list, though I realize now that this is probably better suited for the developers list, since I am more providing information about the behaviour of the Django Admin and unicode than asking for help. Any help forhtcoming would be greatly appreciate

Re: Can't handle newforms

2007-03-30 Thread xgdlm
Thanks for your reply Malcolm > Hmm... this precise example works for me. Are you using a reasonably > recent release (like 0.96)? I remember there was a unicode fix that went > in not too long ago to add smart_unicode() calls in various places for > things just like this. I'm running 0.96 and m

Re: Can't handle newforms

2007-03-30 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 01:52 -0700, xgdlm wrote: > Hello All, > > Django brings me to python ... so I'm not a python specialist. I wish > I could you the newforms library and get rid of the oldforms in my > django projects. But I can't use newforms with French language. I read > a lot of problems

Re: Newforms: colon after label

2007-03-30 Thread olive
A BIG +1 for me On 29 mar, 16:34, "James Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/29/07, Ted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Were I work we have had to do this very thing to support I18N in our > > forms. Something as simple as a ":" is not a given. Maybe I want a > > " :" instead? This could

Can't handle newforms

2007-03-30 Thread xgdlm
Hello All, Django brings me to python ... so I'm not a python specialist. I wish I could you the newforms library and get rid of the oldforms in my django projects. But I can't use newforms with French language. I read a lot of problems with unicode strings and special caracters. But I couldn't r

Re: Localflavors: request for developers and triagers

2007-03-30 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
Hi Ville, On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 01:09 -0700, Ville Säävuori wrote: > I'm the author of the Finnish localflavor, #3847. > > > So could triagers please mark tickets with such strings as needing an > > improved patch and could original developers of these files please > > include any strings contai

Re: Localflavors: request for developers and triagers

2007-03-30 Thread Ville Säävuori
I'm the author of the Finnish localflavor, #3847. > So could triagers please mark tickets with such strings as needing an > improved patch and could original developers of these files please > include any strings containing non-ASCII characters in as u"..." > strings, not traditional strings. I