How about creating django.contrib.db.backends for databases with a small
maintainer "bus size" number? Oracle and django-mssql could live there.
They would have less than full support, but still some level of official
recognition?
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On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 4:31:58 AM UTC-6,
Hi,
now that the 1.6 release plan is out, I'd like to push this topic again. If
you are using Oracle, now is the time to fix those bugs. Personally I am
toying with the idea of dropping Oracle support from core if we can't
ensure it's quality.
Regards,
Florian
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10.3.2013 23:03, Petite Abeille kirjoitti:
On Mar 10, 2013, at 9:36 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
These particular lookups have a long history of being tweaked due to
users coming up with installations where the existing queries did not
work. See tickets #5985, #11017 and
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Petite Abeille
wrote:
> Another point perhaps worthwhile mentioning:
>
> # There's no way for the DatabaseOperations class to know the
> # currently active Oracle version, so we do some setups here.
>
>
On Sunday 10 March 2013, Florian Apolloner wrote:
> and provide help there… Eg: https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/20014 is
> a perfect example where someone with Oracle knowledge can chime in,
Here's a starting point, a query for the constraints affecting a table, from
the South backend for
On Mar 10, 2013, at 9:36 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> These particular lookups have a long history of being tweaked due to
> users coming up with installations where the existing queries did not
> work. See tickets #5985, #11017 and #14149. I'd rather not reopen
> this issue
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Petite Abeille
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> On Mar 10, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Aymeric Augustin
> wrote:
>
>> https://github.com/django/django/blob/master/django/db/backends/oracle/base.py#L548-L555
>
> Last but not least… I
On Mar 10, 2013, at 9:28 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> Digging into the code a bit further, I see that the postgresql backend
> accomplishes this by tacking '::text' onto the end of the field name
> when the lookup is a string-based lookup like startswith. Oracle
> could
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Petite Abeille
wrote:
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> On Mar 10, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Aymeric Augustin
> wrote:
>
>> Django does this already:
>>
On Mar 10, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Florian Apolloner wrote:
> Interesting. Out of curiosity may I ask what brought you to this ML then?
Ah, oh, yes, well… subscribed to the django mailing lists a while back to see
what was all the fuss about :)
That specific thread caught
On Mar 10, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Aymeric Augustin
wrote:
> https://github.com/django/django/blob/master/django/db/backends/oracle/base.py#L548-L555
Last but not least… I couldn't help notice these suspicious looking operators:
Hi,
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 9:00:57 PM UTC+1, Petite Abeille wrote:
>
> > Patches welcome…
> Yes, I wish I knew Python. Sadly I don't. :)
>
Interesting. Out of curiosity may I ask what brought you to this ML then?
(Don't get me wrong, it's just not that often that people write to this
On Mar 10, 2013, at 8:45 PM, Florian Apolloner wrote:
> Patches welcome…
Yes, I wish I knew Python. Sadly I don't. :)
> Well the issue is that nobody wrote get_key_columns yet, so we'd need a
> patch which adds this method to the oracle backend, examples can be taken
Hi,
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 7:48:02 PM UTC+1, Petite Abeille wrote:
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> (1) Whereabout way to get table metadata (i.e. query the table to figure
> out its data to figure out its meta data). Instead, using the data
> dictionary directly would be more reliable and to the point, e.g. select
>
On Mar 10, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Aymeric Augustin
wrote:
> Django does this already:
> https://github.com/django/django/blob/master/django/db/backends/oracle/base.py#L548-L555
Perfect.
In the case of #20015, the issue is the other way round… the literal
On 10 mars 2013, at 20:08, Petite Abeille wrote:
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> On Mar 10, 2013, at 7:56 PM, Petite Abeille wrote:
>
>> If you are not explicit, the session NLS format is applied, with
>> unpredictable results.
>
> For the record, one can always set
On Mar 10, 2013, at 7:56 PM, Petite Abeille wrote:
> If you are not explicit, the session NLS format is applied, with
> unpredictable results.
For the record, one can always set this explicitly at the session level as
well, e.g.:
alter session set nls_date_format =
On Mar 10, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> #20015 looks like an expected failure. Oracle supports lookups of
> date fields using strings by implicitly converting the string to a
> date. The test is doing a startswith lookup that is going to produce
> sql that looks
On Mar 10, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Florian Apolloner wrote:
> It's not always just SQL and even then, before formulating them in SQL it's
> easier to just ask the Oracle users to take a look at the failing issues
> and provide help there… Eg:
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 1:52 AM, Aymeric Augustin
wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> At the moment, a few tests are failing under Oracle. I've created tickets for
> each of them:
>
> https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/20010
> https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/20011
Hi,
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 6:33:08 PM UTC+1, Petite Abeille wrote:
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> > I'm only dealing with Oracle to fix failures in Django's test suite or
> ensure that new features are supported under Oracle. Clearly I'm not smart
> or knowledgeable enough to take advantage of its docs.
> If you can
On Mar 10, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Aymeric Augustin
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> On 10 mars 2013, at 10:34, Petite Abeille wrote:
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>> On Mar 10, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Aymeric Augustin
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oracle's online
On 10 mars 2013, at 10:34, Petite Abeille wrote:
> On Mar 10, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Aymeric Augustin
> wrote:
>
>> Oracle's online docs are a sad joke
>
> Specifically? The Oracle document is rather extensive and detailed. What's
>
On Mar 10, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Aymeric Augustin
wrote:
> Oracle's online docs are a sad joke
Specifically? The Oracle document is rather extensive and detailed. What's
confusing you?
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Hi folks,
At the moment, a few tests are failing under Oracle. I've created tickets for
each of them:
https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/20010
https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/20011
https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/20012
https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/20013
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