Re: [dl-ticket-service] How best to resend ticket after initial creation

2016-04-01 Thread Yuri D'Elia
On Fri, Apr 01 2016, Mike Morris  wrote:
>> There's no track of which e-mails a ticket as been sent to. When you put
>> a list of addresses, DL just composes a list of emails and sends them in
>> one go for you, nothing fancy.
>
> Actually, that's pretty fancy compared to what I was doing :-)

The "fanciest" option is really the Thunderbird extension:

  https://www.thregr.org/~wavexx/software/dl/thunderbird.html

[just posting here in case you missed it]
I rarely use the web interface myself.

>> But there's one catch. When creating the ticket, the password is known
>> and is generally included in the email.
>>
>> When editing a ticket, the password is no longer known to DL.
> That's a big problem... security vs convenience, again!!!
>
> How much trouble would it be to store the ticket password encrypted with
> same algo as user passwords?

The password is hashed for both, so you can only check whether it
matches against the user/ticket, but you cannot recover it.

>   * Resending essentially identical emails... (copy the URL definitely
> works; I can copy/paste the comments too... so this is just a "nice
> to have" now that I think about it)
>   * Being able to get a list of addresses to which a ticket has been sent

Just curious here: why do you need to resend? I understand if you missed
one address, but from the above I feel there's something more going on.




Re: [dl-ticket-service] How best to resend ticket after initial creation

2016-04-01 Thread Yuri D'Elia
On Fri, Apr 01 2016, Mike Morris  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks to the authors for this handy tool!
>
> Most of the GUi is pretty self-explanatory, but perhaps I've missed this:
>
> * Is there currently a way to enter a new email address to send a 2nd
> copy of the ticket to, after the initial send? I expected to see an
> email address field on the Edit Ticket screen, but it's not there.

There's no track of which e-mails a ticket as been sent to. When you put
a list of addresses, DL just composes a list of emails and sends them in
one go for you, nothing fancy.

The easiest option would be to send the link yourself (copy the download
link and you're set).

> Or is there a formal Enhancement Request process I could follow?

What we could add is another field "Resend e-mail to", which makes it
clear that you're sending a *new* email to the requested addresses.

But there's one catch. When creating the ticket, the password is known
and is generally included in the email.

When editing a ticket, the password is no longer known to DL.




Re: [dl-ticket-service] How best to resend ticket after initial creation

2016-04-01 Thread Mike Morris



On 04/01/2016 01:29 PM, Yuri D'Elia wrote:

On Fri, Apr 01 2016, Mike Morris  wrote:

The "fanciest" option is really the Thunderbird extension:

   https://www.thregr.org/~wavexx/software/dl/thunderbird.html

[just posting here in case you missed it]
I rarely use the web interface myself.
I haven't tried the Tbird extension yet; for some reason, while looking 
at DL-ticket originally, I had the foolish notion in my head that if I 
used the Tbird extension, the recipient needed it too, but of course 
that's nonsense!




The password is hashed for both, so you can only check whether it
matches against the user/ticket, but you cannot recover it.
Ahhh, of course. So keeping a separate table of emails the ticket was 
issued to, and their password, is definitely overkill.

   * Resending essentially identical emails... (copy the URL definitely
 works; I can copy/paste the comments too... so this is just a "nice
 to have" now that I think about it)
   * Being able to get a list of addresses to which a ticket has been sent

Just curious here: why do you need to resend? I understand if you missed
one address, but from the above I feel there's something more going on.
My "use case" is not about the large file capabilities, but more the 
security. I'm sending confidential docs 1 at a time to an audience of 50 
people or so, who request them occasionally. Most of my tickets will 
probably be permanent, and I will reissue them several times a month as 
requests come in.  Having a history of who I sent to would be an 
interesting exercise for me to track, that's all. Some of them are docs 
that don't change much over time, people just lose their copy, or get a 
new PC or something and don't have it anymore.


Thanks again Yuri!