Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Request] Presentation in IETF101

2018-04-26 Thread Takehito Akagiri
en.com> 宛先: "Shoko YONEZAWA" <yonez...@lepidum.co.jp>, dmarc@ietf.org Cc: "Yasutaka, Genki | Dkim | OPS" <genki.yasut...@rakuten.com> 送信済み: 2018年4月26日, 木曜日 午後 6:49:46 件名: Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Request] Presentation in IETF101 My understanding is that we have received some com

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Request] Presentation in IETF101

2018-04-26 Thread Yasutaka, Genki | Dkim | OPS
as they like. Regards, Genki --- Genki YASUTAKA Rakuten, Inc. Mail: genki.yasut...@rakuten.com -Original Message- From: dmarc [mailto:dmarc-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Shoko YONEZAWA Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 4:38 PM To: dmarc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Request] Presentation

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Request] Presentation in IETF101

2018-04-26 Thread Shoko YONEZAWA
My opinion is that there seems no trouble in the case that the receiver issues dmarc=pass to the mail, whose domain has no DMARC record, and which is determined dmarc=pass even if DMARC record exists. In such case, dmarc=pass will be issued for any DMARC record where "strict" decision policy is

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Request] Presentation in IETF101

2018-04-17 Thread Dave Crocker
+1, for all of the below. d/ On 4/17/2018 8:41 AM, Steve Atkins wrote: On Apr 16, 2018, at 11:07 PM, Kazunori ANDO wrote: I think "virtual DMARC" is out of DMARC scope, because it's a purely internal policy decision. +1 for the (not entirely unreasonable, but entirely

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Request] Presentation in IETF101

2018-04-17 Thread Steve Atkins
> On Apr 16, 2018, at 11:07 PM, Kazunori ANDO wrote: > > I think "virtual DMARC" is out of DMARC scope, > because it's a purely internal policy decision. +1 for the (not entirely unreasonable, but entirely internal) algorithm used, -1 for the terminology. Where it's in

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Request] Presentation in IETF101

2018-04-17 Thread Kazunori ANDO
+1. I think "virtual DMARC" is out of DMARC scope, because it's a purely internal policy decision. On 2018/03/20 6:17, Scott Kitterman wrote: Fundamentally, both SPF "Best Guess" and "Virtual DMARC" destroy the opt-in nature of SPF and DMARC and should be considered harmful. If an entity wants

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Request] Presentation in IETF101

2018-03-20 Thread Kurt Andersen (b)
On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 7:14 PM, Steven M Jones wrote: > I want to thank Yasutaka san for presenting the Virtual DMARC proposal. I > believe the situation he and his colleagues are addressing would benefit > from more attention. > > Aside from changes to the "dmarc=" allowed

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Request] Presentation in IETF101

2018-03-19 Thread Steven M Jones
On 3/19/18 2:02 PM, Yasutaka, Genki | Dkim | OPS wrote: > > > You can download from the following link. > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/agenda.html > > - Virtual DMARC: DMARC verification without record definitions > > I will send you directly just in case. > Thank you, I found it -- I

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Request] Presentation in IETF101

2018-03-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
-Original Message- > From: dmarc [mailto:dmarc-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Steven M Jones > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 4:15 AM > To: dmarc@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Request] Presentation in IETF101 > > I want to thank Yasutaka san for presenting the Virtual

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Request] Presentation in IETF101

2018-03-19 Thread Yasutaka, Genki | Dkim | OPS
: genki.yasut...@rakuten.com -Original Message- From: dmarc [mailto:dmarc-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Steven M Jones Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 4:15 AM To: dmarc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Request] Presentation in IETF101 I want to thank Yasutaka san for presenting the Virtual

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Request] Presentation in IETF101

2018-03-19 Thread Steven M Jones
I want to thank Yasutaka san for presenting the Virtual DMARC proposal. I believe the situation he and his colleagues are addressing would benefit from more attention. The meeting materials at IETF do not seem to include Yasutaka san's slides. If I didn't just miss it, would it be possible to

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Request] Presentation in IETF101

2018-03-15 Thread Yasutaka, Genki | Dkim | OPS
h 10, 2018 12:06 PM To: Satoru Kanno <ka...@lepidum.co.jp> Cc: dmarc@ietf.org; Takehito Akagiri <akag...@regumi.net>; Yasutaka, Genki | Dkim | OPS <genki.yasut...@rakuten.com> Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Request] Presentation in IETF101 Hi Satoru, On Mar 7, 2018, at 3:21 A

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Request] Presentation in IETF101

2018-03-15 Thread Yasutaka, Genki | Dkim | OPS
<genki.yasut...@rakuten.com> Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Request] Presentation in IETF101 On 3/7/2018 3:21 AM, Satoru Kanno wrote: > Dear DMARC WG Chairs, > > I'm sending to you on behalf of Genki Yasutaka-san. > > As I asked you last November, we are preparing for the next t

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Request] Presentation in IETF101

2018-03-09 Thread Hector Santos
On 3/7/2018 3:21 AM, Satoru Kanno wrote: Dear DMARC WG Chairs, I'm sending to you on behalf of Genki Yasutaka-san. As I asked you last November, we are preparing for the next track, with the intention of not only reviewing this draft, but also implementing for verification of vDMARC. If

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Request] Presentation in IETF101

2018-03-07 Thread Barry Leiba
We will add this to the agenda. Does anyone else have specific agenda items they'd like to have added? Barry, as chair On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 3:21 AM, Satoru Kanno wrote: > Dear DMARC WG Chairs, > > I'm sending to you on behalf of Genki Yasutaka-san. > > As I asked you